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"I believe the owners make the animals bad, my sister has a german shepherd and apart from being really stupid shes really soft" They always say that, just prior to it ripping a childs face to bits. Muzzle ALL dogs when they are in public. No particular breed owner can complain of victimisation. Sick of getting drooled all over by them as well. | |||
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"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? " Like i said before i look at the owners before the dog. Anyway i thought pitbulls were banned? | |||
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"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? Like i said before i look at the owners before the dog. Anyway i thought pitbulls were banned?" Probably wasn't a pitbull, staff cross more likely | |||
"Dont know about being muzzled id prefer a butt plug shoved up dogs ass to stop it shitting in street. Pisses me off that selfish dog owners wont pick the mess up and sme that do just sling the bags into hedges. All owners caught not picking their dogs shit up should be force fed the stuff. Tant over " Oh i certainly agree with that, i hate dog mess with a passion, should give the dog walker a 1000 quid fine if caught, will think twice then!! | |||
"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? Like i said before i look at the owners before the dog. Anyway i thought pitbulls were banned? Probably wasn't a pitbull, staff cross more likely" I dont know to be honest, just going by what my mum said, the police have a picture of the dog and she identified it, dont know what the police are going to do as they havent said. | |||
"Castration helps reduce aggression. It might even work for the dogs too."  | |||
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"Dogs, like people are products of their environment" yes they are  | |||
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"If its a pittbull it should be shot as they are one of the four banned breeds" was it a pitbull though so many claim anything from a staffy to a mastiff is a pitbull!!!!!!!! | |||
"Some dogs are menaces to the public weal, but most aren't. "and many people are an even bigger menace hence all the child molesters, rapists and murderers very few dogs are naturally aggressive but many of the "pitbull type" dog owners are (its a macho thing!!!!! | |||
"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should." my ex husbands mum and dad had two yorkies killed by a Rottweiler about two years ago, the ex father in law was out walking them when this dog just came out of nowhere and attacked the dogs, then turned on the ex father in law when he tried to protect them, one of the dogs was killed out right the other was euthanized later at the vets, the ex father in law had to go and have stitches in his hand and arm, he was 71 years old you cant judge all dogs on these cases though, some dogs are nasty some arnt, my dogs wouldn't hurt a fly, if someone attacked me they would expect me to protect them 
I don't think all dogs should me muzzled I don't think some people should re asses how they bring their dogs up though and if they do have unpredictable dogs they should be restrained at all times | |||
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"If its a pittbull it should be shot as they are one of the four banned breeds" I do love the way we breed, make and shape these dogs and then when things go tits up the dogs are banned and they pay the price of our fuck ups its a harsh world we live in | |||
"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should." unfortunately your mother did the wrong thing, NEVER pick a dog up, if it is being chased or attacked, because the other dog will see it as a toy, rather than a dog, and will do its best to get it. Meaning both your mother and her dog could of been hurt. | |||
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"Were both dogs off lead. I do not think all dogs should be muzzled. If i see a dog loose or on lead i ask if its ok with other dogs if any doubt mine goes on lead. He is soft and well behaved but end of day if attacked dogs can only fight back. The owners are ultimately responsible. Question for o p and i missed it am sorry but was your mums dog muzzled and truly hope mum is ok. Very easy to stop dog fights if alert and quick enough body language of dogs easy to read." it is easy to prevent dog fights, but unless there are 2 people who are trained, it isn't easy to stop a dog fight, unless you know how to! | |||
"I,v had German Sheperds all my life never had a bad one yet but i train and socialise my dogs from pups all through their lives. Dogs are like children bring them up right and you,ll have no problem. " +1 | |||
"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should." If its a pitbull its an illegal breed in the UK,if you're sure it is one and not a big staffy the police have powers to seize the dog,chck its breed via dna or "experts" and destroy it if it is one,even with pitbulls etc its always the owner and not the breed but certain type owners(idiots) go for certain breeds | |||
"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? Like i said before i look at the owners before the dog. Anyway i thought pitbulls were banned? Probably wasn't a pitbull, staff cross more likely" originally pitbulls were staffy bull mastiff crosses to combine fighting sprit of the staffy with territorial instinct of the mastiff tobreed a dog that would defend a property or fight anything! so a staffy pitbull cross is still really a pitbull | |||
"..... it is easy to prevent dog fights, but unless there are 2 people who are trained, it isn't easy to stop a dog fight, unless you know how to!" Easy. Shoot the dogs, then the owners. | |||
"..... it is easy to prevent dog fights, but unless there are 2 people who are trained, it isn't easy to stop a dog fight, unless you know how to! Easy. Shoot the dogs, then the owners." so you suggest people are armed ? | |||
"..... it is easy to prevent dog fights, but unless there are 2 people who are trained, it isn't easy to stop a dog fight, unless you know how to! Easy. Shoot the dogs, then the owners. so you suggest people are armed ?" I'd have officially sanctioned shooters to dispose of fighting dogs and their owners. | |||
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"Pitbulls are illegal in the uk and you need a specisl licence to own one" It'd be interesting to know what you have to do to qualify for one of these special licences. Just wanting a licence ought to be grounds for not getting one. | |||
"Pitbulls are illegal in the uk and you need a specisl licence to own one It'd be interesting to know what you have to do to qualify for one of these special licences. Just wanting a licence ought to be grounds for not getting one." i think u can have one with a license. Im sure one of the license conditions is it has to be muzzled in public and only certain people can own them | |||
" If i see a dog loose or on lead i ask if its ok with other dogs if any doubt mine goes on lead." You ok it with other dogs?? | |||
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"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should." Well it certainly wouldn't have been a pitbull as they are a banned breed in the UK - but whatever it was the fault lies with it's owner - all dogs are trainable if the owner puts in the time and effort! a rogue dog is an extremely rare occurrence | |||
"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should. Well it certainly wouldn't have been a pitbull as they are a banned breed in the UK - but whatever it was the fault lies with it's owner - all dogs are trainable if the owner puts in the time and effort! a rogue dog is an extremely rare occurrence" all because they are banned people still have them | |||
"Dont know about being muzzled id prefer a butt plug shoved up dogs ass to stop it shitting in street. Pisses me off that selfish dog owners wont pick the mess up and sme that do just sling the bags into hedges. All owners caught not picking their dogs shit up should be force fed the stuff. Tant over " Should be a dog shit DNA database!. | |||
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"Our dog was attacked on 3 separate occasions by a neighbour's dog. I reported them in the end because the last time I had kids with me and their dogs was going mental and the kids were scared. They went to court and have to keep the dogs under control. They still don't though. "Take pictures or video it then report again. | |||
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"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should." Yes 100% theyshould | |||
"My beloved springer spaniel passed away recently at 13 years of age and she never shown any aggressive tendencies ever. That said, all dogs can bite. When we hear about a dog being aggressive, the majority of the time it is the well known aggressive dogs Whilst I believe that part of the problem is irresponsible owners, maybe irresponsible breeding can also be a problem. Pedigree pups are expensive and sadly theres money to be made. Maybe bitches are being bred from too regularly, maybe pups have aggressive parents and those traits are being passed on. Maybe dogs being rehomed dont have a traceable history. I believe there should be tighter legislation surrounding breeding programmes and breeders should be vigilent in who they sell to. Im sure some are, the Kennel Club have lists of reputable breeders but ive also seen pedigree pups being sold on sites like Gumtree. Obviously aggressive dogs will still be around, but maybe more could be done to try to prevent tragedies happening. Im sure that responsible dog owners wouldnt mind and if the law was that i had to muzzle my daft spaniel I woukd have. Some idiots will always want a rough and tough dog to compliment their perceived image. These kind of people should be discouraged from dog ownership ". Not all of this is true!! My mother breeds a large breed dog, she shows them and is also a championship show judge. Over the years growing up we have had dozens of littlers every single dog that's left us has gone to a home vetted by mum and all those puppies have had breeding bans on them to stop people who have no respect or idea from breeding. Also over the years those dogs have been bred from without us lifting the ban. The kennel club have done sweet fa about it. They also have details of reputable breeders where you can buy do called good stock!! You can go on that list no matter who you are if ur a breeder or not. In my personal opinion the kennel club need to toughen up there slack ways. Cross breeding is causing the majority of problems and faults in normal breeds, such as in our breed with eye issues, hip displaciya, epilepsy, and some cases aggression. Best way to stop this? You can only become part of the reputable breeders list if you have won in shows on some championship level or are able to judge dogs on breed standards by sitting the exams like my parents did. Cross breeding is a dangerous game!! All dogs on the dangerous dog list should be muzzled in public places no question about it. If your dog attacks it gets destroyed and the owner banned from owning another dog. Having been brought up in breeding for 39 years I have only seen one aggressive dog turn and that was a stud dog marking his territory with another male. Owners have to take responsibility. | |||
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"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? " thanx size and breed have no bearing on this subject if you own an aggressive dog muzzle/ and or train it. | |||
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"Her dog is always on the lead and no is never muzzled even though i think he should be as he is a yappy little bugger lol" So it could b that ur moms dog started the fight by bein yappy?? I have boxer she is soft as anythin and silly as a bag of shit!! BUT was out walkin her she was happily sniffing around little yappy type dog came runnin at her barkin and lunging at her. My dog stood on the little dog and pinned it down. Did not bite it or even put her teeth anywhere near it. Other dog owner started to rant about how I should have more control. Lol wasn't my dog that was aggressive but cos she was bigger what she did seemed more extreme! Little dogs probably bite/fight as much as big dogs they just can't do the same damage which it why it doesn't get into the media | |||
"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? thanx size and breed have no bearing on this subject if you own an aggressive dog muzzle/ and or train it." Why own an aggressive dog at all? | |||
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"My beloved springer spaniel passed away recently at 13 years of age and she never shown any aggressive tendencies ever. That said, all dogs can bite. When we hear about a dog being aggressive, the majority of the time it is the well known aggressive dogs Whilst I believe that part of the problem is irresponsible owners, maybe irresponsible breeding can also be a problem. Pedigree pups are expensive and sadly theres money to be made. Maybe bitches are being bred from too regularly, maybe pups have aggressive parents and those traits are being passed on. Maybe dogs being rehomed dont have a traceable history. I believe there should be tighter legislation surrounding breeding programmes and breeders should be vigilent in who they sell to. Im sure some are, the Kennel Club have lists of reputable breeders but ive also seen pedigree pups being sold on sites like Gumtree. Obviously aggressive dogs will still be around, but maybe more could be done to try to prevent tragedies happening. Im sure that responsible dog owners wouldnt mind and if the law was that i had to muzzle my daft spaniel I woukd have. Some idiots will always want a rough and tough dog to compliment their perceived image. These kind of people should be discouraged from dog ownership . Not all of this is true!! My mother breeds a large breed dog, she shows them and is also a championship show judge. Over the years growing up we have had dozens of littlers every single dog that's left us has gone to a home vetted by mum and all those puppies have had breeding bans on them to stop people who have no respect or idea from breeding. Also over the years those dogs have been bred from without us lifting the ban. The kennel club have done sweet fa about it. They also have details of reputable breeders where you can buy do called good stock!! You can go on that list no matter who you are if ur a breeder or not. In my personal opinion the kennel club need to toughen up there slack ways. Cross breeding is causing the majority of problems and faults in normal breeds, such as in our breed with eye issues, hip displaciya, epilepsy, and some cases aggression. Best way to stop this? You can only become part of the reputable breeders list if you have won in shows on some championship level or are able to judge dogs on breed standards by sitting the exams like my parents did. Cross breeding is a dangerous game!! All dogs on the dangerous dog list should be muzzled in public places no question about it. If your dog attacks it gets destroyed and the owner banned from owning another dog. Having been brought up in breeding for 39 years I have only seen one aggressive dog turn and that was a stud dog marking his territory with another male. Owners have to take responsibility. "Generally breeders, people who show and judges, have a financial incentetive, plus a love of their dogs and an interest in the dog world generally. Once you have sold a dog, you can not control what the new owner does, ie breeding, or showing. The only way of doing this would be to have your dogs castrated or sterilized, which of course means a smaller profit, for the breeder. Some well known breeders, kennel club members, and crufts winners, may be caring, genuine and honest, but if you visit their premises you would be shocked at the neglect and hoarding that goes on. | |||
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"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? thanx size and breed have no bearing on this subject if you own an aggressive dog muzzle/ and or train it. Why own an aggressive dog at all? " Just because the breeds appear to be an aggressive one, Not all dogs in a specific breed are aggressive. We can have aggressive labs poodles yorkies husky's Some rotties GSD doberman and staffis are the sweetest dogs you will ever know. | |||
"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? thanx size and breed have no bearing on this subject if you own an aggressive dog muzzle/ and or train it. Why own an aggressive dog at all? Just because the breeds appear to be an aggressive one, Not all dogs in a specific breed are aggressive. We can have aggressive labs poodles yorkies husky's Some rotties GSD doberman and staffis are the sweetest dogs you will ever know." I have actually never known an aggressive staffy, I have no idea why people think they are, I think its the image people try to put over, chavvy types putting them on ridiculous big leather harnesses to make them look hard when im actual fact they aren't, I know a lot of people with staffs as they are a very popular breed and ever single one is a sweet playful dog | |||
"Some dogs are more prone to aggression than others.why are certain breeds banned if that not the case. id be happy to see all dogs muzzled.i would not contest it with my dog even though it has yet to shoe aggression. i wont say its soft because any dog can attack " red nose pit bulls are banned in england but not all are | |||
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"My friends rottie killed a yorkshire terrier. Sounds horrible till you find out the yorkie was the aggressor and the rottie was calmly walking on a lead. The yorkie managed to badly bite the rotties legs and shoulders before getting a terrier jaw lock onto the rotties jowls. The rottie shook the terrier loose. Unfortunately it hit a tree. And through all this where was the yorkies owner? It took my friend, two police officers and other dog walkers nearly an hour to find the owner who lived next to the park and used to let the yorkie run loose. The owner's response was to threaten to sue my friend for having a dangerous dog. Fortunately the whole thing had been witnessed by other dog walkers who also knew the yorkie liked to pick fights. They had told the police all about it while they were looking for the owner. Small breeds are often aggressive and snappy but get away with it cos they're small and cute. " | |||
" Small breeds are often aggressive and snappy but get away with it cos they're small and cute. "Dachshund and Chihuahua are both in the top 10 dogs that bite the most, but lets be honest if a Chihuahua bit you you'd just give it a kick | |||
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"Whats the breed of the dog got to do with anything? thanx size and breed have no bearing on this subject if you own an aggressive dog muzzle/ and or train it. Why own an aggressive dog at all? Just because the breeds appear to be an aggressive one, Not all dogs in a specific breed are aggressive. We can have aggressive labs poodles yorkies husky's Some rotties GSD doberman and staffis are the sweetest dogs you will ever know. I have actually never known an aggressive staffy, I have no idea why people think they are, I think its the image people try to put over, chavvy types putting them on ridiculous big leather harnesses to make them look hard when im actual fact they aren't, I know a lot of people with staffs as they are a very popular breed and ever single one is a sweet playful dog" ******************* A good friend of ours had 3 staffis mum lived indoors and her young sons outside..they were probably 3 or 4 all was well until one day they attacked her in the garden .. she did survive the owner wasnt in and the nanny had to deal with it. awful.. We had clients at work who had a staffie and he was lovely came in for years 6 for vacs etc..loving and sweet. one day i had a distressed call owner hubby had been attacked arms ripped to shreds. they managed to get him into garden . but with a school nearby we had to call police to contain him.. ended up shot as vet couldnt get close. another staffi 3 doors away developed epilepsy was a very daddies boy dog but sweet. he was PTS at 6 as they felt he would have the wife if left. collies are v snappy too chihuahua are little buggers ..but its all owner / control .. if they train they can be nice..If they scared they cant be trusted .. | |||
"Be muzzled. My mum was out walking her dog the other day when he was attacked by a pitbull, my mother grabbed her dog (jack russel/yorkie cross) and picked him up, the pitbull grabbed his leg and badly hurt him. The owner managed to get the dog off and i believe the police know where the pitbull lives. So should dogs be muzzled when out, i think they should." i would advocate the neutering of all Pit bull ----- owners | |||
