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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
Basically i am recently graduated in a degree in Accounting & Finance and is looking to get myself into one of the Big 4 accountancy firm. However, i am slightly below the minimum requirements in UCAS points and GCSE grades.
I am basically writing this post for advice in a course of action to achieve my dream of working for one of these 4 companies?
Please leave a comment (positive or negative) and i would highly appreciate your advise |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
The big firms are mostly interested in
1) the quality of your degree
2) the university you graduated from (ideally Russell Group)
3) who you're related to.
The above may/ may not be in the correct order. |
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From personal experience I would suggest that you shouldn't narrow it down to the Big Four for your first job. Look at other highly regarded firms and once you have your foot in the door then approach the Big Four.
Good luck. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
Without knowing your area of interest and what you really want to do it's difficult to give any advice based on your post.
Get yourself into work and build experience that wipes out your poor academic scores, network and keep up your professional development.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Invent a new tax avoidance product and sell your soul to satan, they'll snap you right up. You'll be advising the government on the next set of PFI/privatisation disasters before you know it. |
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"Have you given any thought to lying ?"
Yes, but i have spoken to people in the HR department in EY and they say that in terms of the Degree and UCAS points they WILL verify before they offer you a position |
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"The big firms are mostly interested in
1) the quality of your degree
2) the university you graduated from (ideally Russell Group)
3) who you're related to.
The above may/ may not be in the correct order."
My degree was not in a Russell Group category nor can i get into those jobs through nepotism so im kind of screwed.  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"The big firms are mostly interested in
1) the quality of your degree
2) the university you graduated from (ideally Russell Group)
3) who you're related to.
The above may/ may not be in the correct order.
My degree was not in a Russell Group category nor can i get into those jobs through nepotism so im kind of screwed. "
As someone said earlier, it may come down to lying. Not a bad skill in an accountant. |
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"Without knowing your area of interest and what you really want to do it's difficult to give any advice based on your post.
Get yourself into work and build experience that wipes out your poor academic scores, network and keep up your professional development.
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Ideally i would like to do Audit but i would take any role in those companies.
You see, the reason why i aspire to get into those companies is because it open many doors for me in the future, some to which is not accessible for regional equivalent roles.
My fear right now is that it seems that my goals are unattainable given my shortcommings |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"The big firms are mostly interested in
1) the quality of your degree
2) the university you graduated from (ideally Russell Group)
3) who you're related to.
The above may/ may not be in the correct order.
My degree was not in a Russell Group category nor can i get into those jobs through nepotism so im kind of screwed. "
Not necessarily. You will need a more ambitious attitude. I know young people working for KPMG from very deprived backgrounds who didn't attend Russell Group universities but have impressed and have been given a chance.
Get into working, find what you enjoy and map your route to your goal.
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"The big firms are mostly interested in
1) the quality of your degree
2) the university you graduated from (ideally Russell Group)
3) who you're related to.
The above may/ may not be in the correct order.
My degree was not in a Russell Group category nor can i get into those jobs through nepotism so im kind of screwed.
As someone said earlier, it may come down to lying. Not a bad skill in an accountant."
Okay, in the application is will ask me for any extenuating circumstances (i.e. any reason to why ii didn't achieve the minimum requirements they set). I could go down that route but i do not have a good enough reason to why i didn't get high A Levels. Now, bare in mind that they can have 18,000 applications and they will only take on like about 150 probably, so my excuse better be damn good to get pass their firewall.
Any suggestions? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Without knowing your area of interest and what you really want to do it's difficult to give any advice based on your post.
Get yourself into work and build experience that wipes out your poor academic scores, network and keep up your professional development.
Ideally i would like to do Audit but i would take any role in those companies.
You see, the reason why i aspire to get into those companies is because it open many doors for me in the future, some to which is not accessible for regional equivalent roles.
My fear right now is that it seems that my goals are unattainable given my shortcommings "
You need to get some audit work under your belt. Make sure you know Company and Charity Law and all recommended practices. Show you will put the time in to get the knowledge and you will get the opportunity to get the skills.
Work on your confidence. Audits does require being able to speak to the clients. And to be able to work in the broom cupboard with no natural light or ventilation.
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"The big firms are mostly interested in
1) the quality of your degree
2) the university you graduated from (ideally Russell Group)
3) who you're related to.
The above may/ may not be in the correct order.
My degree was not in a Russell Group category nor can i get into those jobs through nepotism so im kind of screwed.
Not necessarily. You will need a more ambitious attitude. I know young people working for KPMG from very deprived backgrounds who didn't attend Russell Group universities but have impressed and have been given a chance.
Get into working, find what you enjoy and map your route to your goal.
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I do agree that i do sound as if i lack the right attitude but that is because i don't see attainable career route that will help me achieve my goal. Once i have found a route that i believe will work then my drive will reemerge
I have been looking for work (both in accounting and in customer service) which have been quite futile
The story about the person who went to KPMG is an uplifting story to here, hopefully i can follow in their footsteps.
Is it by any chance possible for you to ask that person on what a person in my position should do? |
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"Without knowing your area of interest and what you really want to do it's difficult to give any advice based on your post.
Get yourself into work and build experience that wipes out your poor academic scores, network and keep up your professional development.
Ideally i would like to do Audit but i would take any role in those companies.
You see, the reason why i aspire to get into those companies is because it open many doors for me in the future, some to which is not accessible for regional equivalent roles.
My fear right now is that it seems that my goals are unattainable given my shortcommings
You need to get some audit work under your belt. Make sure you know Company and Charity Law and all recommended practices. Show you will put the time in to get the knowledge and you will get the opportunity to get the skills.
Work on your confidence. Audits does require being able to speak to the clients. And to be able to work in the broom cupboard with no natural light or ventilation.
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The problem with the working environment in Audit is that they are looking for people who experience and not degree. I have also tried calling all known accounting and law practice that is in the area (totalling over 120) for volunteary work experience and they have all rejected me.
As for my needed work in confidence, i am currently working on that |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
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You need to get some audit work under your belt. Make sure you know Company and Charity Law and all recommended practices. Show you will put the time in to get the knowledge and you will get the opportunity to get the skills.
Work on your confidence. Audits does require being able to speak to the clients. And to be able to work in the broom cupboard with no natural light or ventilation.
The problem with the working environment in Audit is that they are looking for people who experience and not degree. I have also tried calling all known accounting and law practice that is in the area (totalling over 120) for volunteary work experience and they have all rejected me.
As for my needed work in confidence, i am currently working on that"
The young person I know sought out a mentor in an accountancy firm. He worked with the mentor and followed the suggestions to network, got himself volunteering for charities to help with their accounts and he became a treasurer of a small charity local to his home and his community.
The large firms always send juniors and trainees out to do the audit fieldwork and I have had enough years of helping the ones fresh out of university get to grips with what is required of them, even though I am paying for them.
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
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You need to get some audit work under your belt. Make sure you know Company and Charity Law and all recommended practices. Show you will put the time in to get the knowledge and you will get the opportunity to get the skills.
Work on your confidence. Audits does require being able to speak to the clients. And to be able to work in the broom cupboard with no natural light or ventilation.
The problem with the working environment in Audit is that they are looking for people who experience and not degree. I have also tried calling all known accounting and law practice that is in the area (totalling over 120) for volunteary work experience and they have all rejected me.
As for my needed work in confidence, i am currently working on that
The young person I know sought out a mentor in an accountancy firm. He worked with the mentor and followed the suggestions to network, got himself volunteering for charities to help with their accounts and he became a treasurer of a small charity local to his home and his community.
The large firms always send juniors and trainees out to do the audit fieldwork and I have had enough years of helping the ones fresh out of university get to grips with what is required of them, even though I am paying for them.
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I will have a look into the charity thing. Thank you.
Networking is not as easy as it seems, especially finding some who can help you in your career |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You need to get some audit work under your belt. Make sure you know Company and Charity Law and all recommended practices. Show you will put the time in to get the knowledge and you will get the opportunity to get the skills.
Work on your confidence. Audits does require being able to speak to the clients. And to be able to work in the broom cupboard with no natural light or ventilation.
The problem with the working environment in Audit is that they are looking for people who experience and not degree. I have also tried calling all known accounting and law practice that is in the area (totalling over 120) for volunteary work experience and they have all rejected me.
As for my needed work in confidence, i am currently working on that
The young person I know sought out a mentor in an accountancy firm. He worked with the mentor and followed the suggestions to network, got himself volunteering for charities to help with their accounts and he became a treasurer of a small charity local to his home and his community.
The large firms always send juniors and trainees out to do the audit fieldwork and I have had enough years of helping the ones fresh out of university get to grips with what is required of them, even though I am paying for them.
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I agree. I have also that steps behind me. Long way , but don't give up. In my company we look first on : Experience, personality and education.  |
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By *hermin1 OP Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
"resit the exams that you didnt do well in ???"
When you summit your a level results, you have to submit the year in year you took that examination. Firstly they will have a right to check with the examination board that you disclosed the right grade If they find out that you took an examination years later then that will beg the question, what did you get originally and how did you get to Uni in the first place. The thing is that there is no way i can resit an examination, 7 years later without them knowing |
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