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By *RYBBW OP Couple
over a year ago
Leeds. |
It's the first day of the trial of the two men who murdered this brave man. I was stunned to find that they are pleading not guilty. What are they on ? CCTV footage, mobile phone footage, dozens of eye witnesses. Plus let's not forget the confession caught on camera with the murderer covered head to toe in Lee's blood. Then the filmed charge on the police with them brandishing a gun and knives.
They have no shame. They are out for publicity and feel they have done nothing wrong. What's the world coming to ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am ex army and disgusted by these scum hanging is too good for them they should let all service man and woman ex or serving do what they feel best for this scum! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am o right in thinking that they haven't denied killing him just the charge of murder?"
how can they deny murder?
'oh i meant to cut him and hurt him just a smidge.. didnt mean to actually kill him though' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If it helps make people feel better, if they plead not guilty and are found guilty they get a longer sentence."
Which helps them become the martyrs they want to be. |
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By *RYBBW OP Couple
over a year ago
Leeds. |
"Am o right in thinking that they haven't denied killing him just the charge of murder?
how can they deny murder?
'oh i meant to cut him and hurt him just a smidge.. didnt mean to actually kill him though'"
They ran over him in a car first too ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am o right in thinking that they haven't denied killing him just the charge of murder?
how can they deny murder?
'oh i meant to cut him and hurt him just a smidge.. didnt mean to actually kill him though'"
Because they don't see what they did as murder. But as an act of war. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think they plead innocent so the victims family have to relive the whole moment and hear the details of what happened....therefore further attacking the victims family. After all they killed the lad in the streets and wanted people to see it. If they had pleased guilty we would not get to hear such detail...
I think I am right in saying that? Sick fucks who ever they are, and when Muslims are fighting a cause to prove to us they are good people, idiots like this just reinforce the stereotype that Muslims
Seem to have with many people in this country. It's sad, but I would like Muslim leaders to come out and condem such horrid behaviour...
The killers said an eye for an eye, so let's see them strung up in the streets of London. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"It will their defense team that advises them to plead Not Guilty.
I'm very surprised anyone would want to defend them. Overwhelming evidence so they're not going to win."
Barristers don't have a choice. It's a taxi rank. If you're at the top of the queue and qualified to plead the case - you're up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Seem to have with many people in this country. It's sad, but I would like Muslim leaders to come out and condem such horrid behaviour...
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They were widely and publically condemned by the islamic community at the time of the attack. The basic principles of innocent till proven guilty means that no one can publically condemn their plea until after conviction. |
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"It will their defense team that advises them to plead Not Guilty.
I'm very surprised anyone would want to defend them. Overwhelming evidence so they're not going to win."
They may be given a court defence team. However I'm sure there will be someone happy to take the job to make their name. You have to remember a solicitor's job is to make sure their client gets a fair trial. Unfortunately they have forgotten that and seem to think their job is to get the guilty off scott free... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"It will their defense team that advises them to plead Not Guilty.
I'm very surprised anyone would want to defend them. Overwhelming evidence so they're not going to win.
They may be given a court defence team. However I'm sure there will be someone happy to take the job to make their name. You have to remember a solicitor's job is to make sure their client gets a fair trial. Unfortunately they have forgotten that and seem to think their job is to get the guilty off scott free... "
Their job is to take instructions from the solicitor who, in turn, takes instruction from the accused.
If the accused says 'I didn't do it', it's the defence team's job to accept that and plead the best case they can. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They see it as an act of war. In their eyes they are serving a just cause by killing the enemy.
What they. have done is horrific, but that is how they are trying to justify it.
They will be jailed for life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"a total waste of tax payers money .they know they are guilty and so does everyone else.prison is far too good for animals like these  "
I agree. Bring back hanging and end their lives. They dont deserve to live. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is my understanding that they do not deny killing Lee Rigby they just deny it was murder.
Their plea is they were acting in retaliation to the murder of Muslims.
I have no idea how retaliation doesn't mean the same as murder.
They would have been advised by the person who told them to carry out this horrible act and the legal process would have been planned meticulously before they carried it out.
They wanted to be caught , therefore it's easy to workout they probably wanted a court case.
Their solicitors have no choice but to follow what they are told. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It would be so easy to say ‘this case is so cruel and difficult that this person shouldn't get the same rights as others',"
"But if we change the rules for one person, we threaten the core of democracy. People must enjoy the same rights and must be punished by the same laws."
"No matter how horrible a crime was, a defendant has to have someone looking out for his interest. This is just a vital brick in the wall of democracy,"
Taken from an interview with Geir Lippestad, the defence lawyer in the Anders Brevik trial. This guy is even a member of the Labour Party, whose youth camp Brevik attacked. Pretty sure his remarks exemplify why these two scumbags deserve a fair trial 
Or, fuck it, maybe we should just have mob justice...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My mate just come out of prison and he was saying one of the black guys that killed lee Rigby got beat up in side and had is front teeth knocked out.poor man.pmsl .solicitors dont care who they help or stick up for they dont care as long as they get payed its all big money to them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's the first day of the trial of the two men who murdered this brave man. I was stunned to find that they are pleading not guilty. What are they on ? CCTV footage, mobile phone footage, dozens of eye witnesses. Plus let's not forget the confession caught on camera with the murderer covered head to toe in Lee's blood. Then the filmed charge on the police with them brandishing a gun and knives.
They have no shame. They are out for publicity and feel they have done nothing wrong. What's the world coming to ?"
Yes its publicity. Their capable of cold blooded murder in broad day light, yet you seem suprised that they want the publicity?
If they plead guilty, they get handed a sentence, get 2-3 days media coverage, then spend (hopefully) the rest of their lives locked up.
By pleading not guilty, they get weeks of media coverage, and a huge expensive trial, then handed their sentence.
They dont care about what their dragging his family and friends through. They dont care that its a pointless waste of a huge amount of tax payers money.
They just want the attention, and to continue stirring racial hatred.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""It would be so easy to say ‘this case is so cruel and difficult that this person shouldn't get the same rights as others',"
"But if we change the rules for one person, we threaten the core of democracy. People must enjoy the same rights and must be punished by the same laws."
"No matter how horrible a crime was, a defendant has to have someone looking out for his interest. This is just a vital brick in the wall of democracy,"
Taken from an interview with Geir Lippestad, the defence lawyer in the Anders Brevik trial. This guy is even a member of the Labour Party, whose youth camp Brevik attacked. Pretty sure his remarks exemplify why these two scumbags deserve a fair trial
Or, fuck it, maybe we should just have mob justice... "
We are supposed to be the civilised ones so what example are we setting to our children if we murder people for murdering? One murder is wrong but another murder is ok?
Let the courts decide not mob rule, mob justice would lead to the disintegration of our whole society. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society."
Their culture has every right to be here. Extremists dont. These men are not a true representation of thier culture or religion. |
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"Seem to have with many people in this country. It's sad, but I would like Muslim leaders to come out and condem such horrid behaviour...
They were widely and publically condemned by the islamic community at the time of the attack. The basic principles of innocent till proven guilty means that no one can publically condemn their plea until after conviction. "
this..
they don't represent their religion, and it was good to see that their crime was totally condemned by all cultures..
they want to be 'strung up', they would love that so they become 'martyrs' and are used to radicalise others..
we do that and in some small way they will have a victory, terrorists want to change the way we live and reduce us to their level..
lock them up and let them rot, they will die from the inside as people..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's the first day of the trial of the two men who murdered this brave man. I was stunned to find that they are pleading not guilty. What are they on ? CCTV footage, mobile phone footage, dozens of eye witnesses. Plus let's not forget the confession caught on camera with the murderer covered head to toe in Lee's blood. Then the filmed charge on the police with them brandishing a gun and knives.
They have no shame. They are out for publicity and feel they have done nothing wrong. What's the world coming to ?"
they are probably pleading not guilty because they want publicity for their cause and to cost the British tax payer more money as i doubt they are probably not paying for their own defence counsel
they are two sick cowards who attacked this poor unarmed drummer with a car before carrying out their cowardly act.
these two cowards should die by the sword they chose to live by once they are find guilty of his murder.
i know some on here will not condone the death penalty however i do not see anygood reason why they should be allowed to draw breath again.
give them what they seek
martyrdom.
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The killers said an eye for an eye, so let's see them strung up in the streets of London.
Yeah......ok "
Why the rolling eyeballs FFS?,is it not what that scum believe in?,they want to be killed so they can go play with the rest of the cowardly scumbags in the afterlife,so sooner the better for us and our safety on the streets i think. |
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"Seem to have with many people in this country. It's sad, but I would like Muslim leaders to come out and condem such horrid behaviour...
They were widely and publically condemned by the islamic community at the time of the attack. The basic principles of innocent till proven guilty means that no one can publically condemn their plea until after conviction.
this..
they don't represent their religion, and it was good to see that their crime was totally condemned by all cultures..
they want to be 'strung up', they would love that so they become 'martyrs' and are used to radicalise others..
we do that and in some small way they will have a victory, terrorists want to change the way we live and reduce us to their level..
lock them up and let them rot, they will die from the inside as people..
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They will be well looked after inside no doubt!,no electricity or gas bills to worry about,tv,& laptops to keep in touch with mates on the outside,the best chefs to cook for them with waiter servisce,i mean these guys have human rights and the best law people to make sure they get the very best!.
dont you just love our legal system?. |
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"i mean these guys have human rights and the best law people to make sure they get the very best!.
dont you just love our legal system?. "
despite its failings, its far preferable to the one these scumbags would want us and other to have.. |
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" You have to remember a solicitor's job is to make sure their client gets a fair trial. Unfortunately they have forgotten that and seem to think their job is to get the guilty off scott free...
Their job is to take instructions from the solicitor who, in turn, takes instruction from the accused.
If the accused says 'I didn't do it', it's the defence team's job to accept that and plead the best case they can."
There are also plenty who will tell their client to go not guilty so they can put doubt into the juries mind in the hope of getting a guilty person a reduced sentence or thrown out altogether. Look at how many solicitors are known fir getting people off on loop holes. They are not saying my client is innocent. They are saying they are guilty but.... That is not justice or a fair trial... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They will be well looked after inside no doubt!,no electricity or gas bills to worry about,tv,& laptops to keep in touch with mates on the outside,the best chefs to cook for them with waiter servisce,i mean these guys have human rights and the best law people to make sure they get the very best!.
dont you just love our legal system?. "
Yeah, prison is exactly like this. And I'm sure they have the best litigation team in the country, rather than the best legal aid can buy. |
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As much as i would love to pull the swith on the chair for them , we in the western world must show that we have a fair justice system , the system that they would wish to crush , As we must show that justice will be done and are right to freedom will not be taken from us . They will im sure get there just desserts in prison and im sure the screws will turn a blind eye the the lickings that they will recieve over the next 30 years |
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"Seem to have with many people in this country. It's sad, but I would like Muslim leaders to come out and condem such horrid behaviour...
They were widely and publically condemned by the islamic community at the time of the attack. The basic principles of innocent till proven guilty means that no one can publically condemn their plea until after conviction.
this..
they don't represent their religion, and it was good to see that their crime was totally condemned by all cultures..
they want to be 'strung up', they would love that so they become 'martyrs' and are used to radicalise others..
we do that and in some small way they will have a victory, terrorists want to change the way we live and reduce us to their level..
lock them up and let them rot, they will die from the inside as people..
They will be well looked after inside no doubt!,no electricity or gas bills to worry about,tv,& laptops to keep in touch with mates on the outside,the best chefs to cook for them with waiter servisce,i mean these guys have human rights and the best law people to make sure they get the very best!.
dont you just love our legal system?. "
Contrary to what you think inmates have to earn all privileges and live on a very basic diet and where do you get waiter service, think you've been watching too much telly love |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"This way they get to take the stand and spout their anti west rubbish (and get column inches).
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........ only if the judge allows it... if they ramble on and the judge doesn't think it is part of the case, he can tell the jury to disregard it... and he can also tell the press not to report it.... |
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"This way they get to take the stand and spout their anti west rubbish (and get column inches).
........ only if the judge allows it... if they ramble on and the judge doesn't think it is part of the case, he can tell the jury to disregard it... and he can also tell the press not to report it...."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The killers would advocate sharia law being introduced in the UK and full conversion to Islam including summary justice and the death penalty. I can understand that it's a really emotive case but I don't get the clamour for them to be killed. For us the fact that the UK has fair and open justice, and no death penalty is a good thing. Am proud that we live in a better more civilised society than Lee Rigby's killers would like. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the eyes of the court they will get longer sentences for pleading not guilty. The evidence is cast iron they are not getting off. I await to read reports from the prisons they get sent to about how ex military inmates have dealt with them in their own fashion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Absolute cowardly scumbags.
They shouldn't be killed as some people said as that would be the martydom they dream of.
In prison with the barest minimum until their dying days with the fear and paranoia that everyday they will have to live with the threat of retribution is probably the only thing that after 30 years is going to hit home.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally I think they deserved to b hanged all he did wrong was serve his country I'm not a racist but if it's so great we're they are supposedly fighting for y don't they go there I served my country for years and truly have no ill feelings for afghan people or Iraq people a diffrent race brought up differently the world is truly going down the drain to many sick twisted people I fear for my kids and generations to come race and religion are a excuse for evil people to do as they feel |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
I'm not in favour of capital punishment.
Prison isn't as cushy as some would have us believe. I'd be pleased to see longer minimum tariffs and more stringent assessment before release. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lock them up for a very,very very long time and i hope they are martyred , just a little, every fucking day, makes me want to vomit these shits being kept at our expense. |
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society."
Dr Harold Shipman
Beverly Allitt
Roal Moat
Derek Bird
Myra Hindley
Michael Ryan
Thomas Hamilton...yet these are?!!
Evil is evil: the colour of someone's skin or religion has fuck all to do with it! |
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""It would be so easy to say ‘this case is so cruel and difficult that this person shouldn't get the same rights as others',"
"But if we change the rules for one person, we threaten the core of democracy. People must enjoy the same rights and must be punished by the same laws."
"No matter how horrible a crime was, a defendant has to have someone looking out for his interest. This is just a vital brick in the wall of democracy,"
Taken from an interview with Geir Lippestad, the defence lawyer in the Anders Brevik trial. This guy is even a member of the Labour Party, whose youth camp Brevik attacked. Pretty sure his remarks exemplify why these two scumbags deserve a fair trial
Or, fuck it, maybe we should just have mob justice... "
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"I love the posts on threads like this that denounce Sharia Law and then in the next breath unknowingly advocate it, the irony is beautiful."
I like the fact that some people on here seem to think only blacks or Muslims are evil. White christians never, ever, no siree do anything that will keep them from the pearly gates.
A doctor killing over 200 of his patients, a man walking into a school killing a class of children, two men running over and almost decapitating a man in the streets...evil!
Yet the black men shouldn't be here, are evil personified etc.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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this should have nothing to do with race, creed, colour or religion this is about two cowards who attacked a innocent man who was walking to his place of work nothing more nothing less.
to bring anything else into discussion is disrespectful to the memory of Lee Rigby and to play into the killers hands.
there is good and bad in all walks of society.
R.I.P LEE RIGBY may your family find closure after the ordeal of the trial. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"It will their defense team that advises them to plead Not Guilty. "
Not necessarily; their briefs can and do advise on pleas, but the decision as to what to plea rests solely with the defendants themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately we live in a fucked up world at the moment & the 2 men who attacked Lee Rigby will get jail, which quite frankly isn't good enough, we should bring back the death penalty.
Jail should mean jail like it did in the past, jail now sounds like it can be quite an easy ride, they will prob get segregated from most prisoners as do the likes of peodo's etc, |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Unfortunately we live in a fucked up world at the moment & the 2 men who attacked Lee Rigby will get jail, which quite frankly isn't good enough, we should bring back the death penalty.
Jail should mean jail like it did in the past, jail now sounds like it can be quite an easy ride, they will prob get segregated from most prisoners as do the likes of peodo's etc,"
So which do you actually want? Death or jail?
Maybe you'd hang them then imprison their corpses.
There are clearly barbarians on both sides. |
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"Unfortunately we live in a fucked up world at the moment & the 2 men who attacked Lee Rigby will get jail, which quite frankly isn't good enough, we should bring back the death penalty.
Jail should mean jail like it did in the past, jail now sounds like it can be quite an easy ride, they will prob get segregated from most prisoners as do the likes of peodo's etc,
So which do you actually want? Death or jail?
Maybe you'd hang them then imprison their corpses.
There are clearly barbarians on both sides."
I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous statement |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think people who kill for a cause they see it as a duty, rather than a murder, I suppose its the same as soldiers in a war."
Comparing these scum bags with a British Soldier is about as low as anyone can go, yet again your contribution to a thread is all about getting yourself some attention.
you should be totally ashamed of yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It will their defense team that advises them to plead Not Guilty.
I'm very surprised anyone would want to defend them. Overwhelming evidence so they're not going to win."
If I had murdered someone, I would plead not guilty. Your hardly likely to "do the decent thing" if your a psychopath are you? As for being suprised that someone would WANT to defend them, thats is what a defence lawyer does. If nobody made themselves availabe to represent the accused in criminal cases, then the trial could not take place. Despite their crimes, EVERYONE is entitled to a defence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You're confusing the charge and the events. They aren't saying it didn't happen, they're saying it wasn't murder.
It upsets me that the same people that call these men barbaric (which they undoubtedly are) then call for their hanging, beating etc in the same breath.
Forget about these psychotic jokers. They are blatantly deranged. Don't take them seriously. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Forget about these psychotic jokers. They are blatantly deranged. Don't take them seriously. "
By our 21st century standards they are indeed deranged but they don't see it that way. They believe their actions make perfect sense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Forget about these psychotic jokers. They are blatantly deranged. Don't take them seriously.
By our 21st century standards they are indeed deranged but they don't see it that way. They believe their actions make perfect sense."
Which is precisely what makes them deranged. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I say get a grip wosre crimes happen in our homes by British people killing there own loved ones for greed,selfishness, vendgence etc etc dont jump on the media band wagon theres alot more stuff going on by British people on British people |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I say get a grip wosre crimes happen in our homes by British people killing there own loved ones for greed,selfishness, vendgence etc etc dont jump on the media band wagon theres alot more stuff going on by British people on British people"
Think it's just how public it was, certainly not as much hype about the guy who hacked to death an entire family just because of a bad business deal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Forget about these psychotic jokers. They are blatantly deranged. Don't take them seriously.
By our 21st century standards they are indeed deranged but they don't see it that way. They believe their actions make perfect sense.
Which is precisely what makes them deranged. "
The same 21st century standards that doesn't explode in uproar when an 'ally' sends a drone to another country which ends up killing children?
Maybe that point is for another thread, but lets not dismiss these killers as deranged. The problem is much bigger than that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Forget about these psychotic jokers. They are blatantly deranged. Don't take them seriously.
By our 21st century standards they are indeed deranged but they don't see it that way. They believe their actions make perfect sense.
Which is precisely what makes them deranged.
The same 21st century standards that doesn't explode in uproar when an 'ally' sends a drone to another country which ends up killing children?
Maybe that point is for another thread, but lets not dismiss these killers as deranged. The problem is much bigger than that. "
They most certainly are deranged. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think either of them will ever get out are they being tried for terrorism and murder?"
Don't be so sure. They'll invariably get life but look at the troubles in Ireland and how many were ultimately released. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society."
Nothing to do with their 'culture'. It's their bastardisation of Muslim culture that gives the rest of them a bad name. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think either of them will ever get out are they being tried for terrorism and murder?
Don't be so sure. They'll invariably get life but look at the troubles in Ireland and how many were ultimately released. "
That's a good point. People forget that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think either of them will ever get out are they being tried for terrorism and murder?
Don't be so sure. They'll invariably get life but look at the troubles in Ireland and how many were ultimately released. "
Spot on the justice system in this country is fucked up when it comes to murderers, rapists, peados etc etc |
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society.
Dr Harold Shipman
Beverly Allitt
Roal Moat
Derek Bird
Myra Hindley
Michael Ryan
Thomas Hamilton...yet these are?!!
Evil is evil: the colour of someone's skin or religion has fuck all to do with it!"
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Forget about these psychotic jokers. They are blatantly deranged. Don't take them seriously.
By our 21st century standards they are indeed deranged but they don't see it that way. They believe their actions make perfect sense.
Which is precisely what makes them deranged.
The same 21st century standards that doesn't explode in uproar when an 'ally' sends a drone to another country which ends up killing children?
Maybe that point is for another thread, but lets not dismiss these killers as deranged. The problem is much bigger than that.
They most certainly are deranged. "
Dismissing them as being deranged means we will only ever try to deal with the symptoms and not the cause. |
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"I don't think either of them will ever get out are they being tried for terrorism and murder?
Don't be so sure. They'll invariably get life but look at the troubles in Ireland and how many were ultimately released.
Spot on the justice system in this country is fucked up when it comes to murderers, rapists, peados etc etc "
Why? Because the tabloids make a big fuss when the courts sometimes get things wrong and don't say a word about the 1000's of cases a year where justice is seen to be done?
Only about 50 cases a year go to appeal on a point of law and only a small percentage of those are upheld. |
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"The killers would advocate sharia law being introduced in the UK and full conversion to Islam including summary justice and the death penalty. I can understand that it's a really emotive case but I don't get the clamour for them to be killed. For us the fact that the UK has fair and open justice, and no death penalty is a good thing. Am proud that we live in a better more civilised society than Lee Rigby's killers would like. "
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"I don't think either of them will ever get out are they being tried for terrorism and murder?
Don't be so sure. They'll invariably get life but look at the troubles in Ireland and how many were ultimately released.
Spot on the justice system in this country is fucked up when it comes to murderers, rapists, peados etc etc "
How does that relate to my post? |
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"I think people who kill for a cause they see it as a duty, rather than a murder, I suppose its the same as soldiers in a war.
Comparing these scum bags with a British Soldier is about as low as anyone can go, yet again your contribution to a thread is all about getting yourself some attention.
you should be totally ashamed of yourself."
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Evil is evil: the colour of someone's skin or religion has fuck all to do with it!
this..
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Totally agree. But that still won't get through to a few ignorant bastards. |
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Evil is evil: the colour of someone's skin or religion has fuck all to do with it!
this..
Totally agree. But that still won't get through to a few ignorant bastards. "
or those with an agenda who sadly and shamefully use such vile acts to promote it..
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"I don't think either of them will ever get out are they being tried for terrorism and murder?
Don't be so sure. They'll invariably get life but look at the troubles in Ireland and how many were ultimately released. "
Life with a recommendation they serve at least 25-30 years. With the public broadcasting of the event as well can't see a judge ever letting them out. |
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Evil is evil: the colour of someone's skin or religion has fuck all to do with it!
this..
Totally agree. But that still won't get through to a few ignorant bastards.
or those with an agenda who sadly and shamefully use such vile acts to promote it..
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society.
Nothing to do with their 'culture'. It's their bastardisation of Muslim culture that gives the rest of them a bad name."
Well said. |
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It's amazing how many people use religion to try and negate their wrongdoings.
Not just these guys who claim to have killed 'in the name of Islam', but look at it on a wider scale. How many catholic priests have been exposed for paedophilia or rape? Religion was also the cause of the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland. I was born in a Catholic upbringing, and force-fed the religion at primary school, and had to attend church as a kid. After witnessing that my family are some of the biggest 'sinners' you could wish to meet, I became a self-appointed aetheist. So these days, I say fuck religion - it's just for hypocrites. And to quote a line from the biggest book of conspiracy theories, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
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"It's amazing how many people use religion to try and negate their wrongdoings.
Not just these guys who claim to have killed 'in the name of Islam', but look at it on a wider scale. How many catholic priests have been exposed for paedophilia or rape? Religion was also the cause of the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland. I was born in a Catholic upbringing, and force-fed the religion at primary school, and had to attend church as a kid. After witnessing that my family are some of the biggest 'sinners' you could wish to meet, I became a self-appointed aetheist. So these days, I say fuck religion - it's just for hypocrites. And to quote a line from the biggest book of conspiracy theories, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
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"It's amazing how many people use religion to try and negate their wrongdoings.
Not just these guys who claim to have killed 'in the name of Islam', but look at it on a wider scale. How many catholic priests have been exposed for paedophilia or rape? Religion was also the cause of the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland. I was born in a Catholic upbringing, and force-fed the religion at primary school, and had to attend church as a kid. After witnessing that my family are some of the biggest 'sinners' you could wish to meet, I became a self-appointed aetheist. So these days, I say fuck religion - it's just for hypocrites. And to quote a line from the biggest book of conspiracy theories, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
..Well said Mate And well put,Honest. "
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"I'd still like to pepper them 2 cunts with 5.56 for what they did to that poor Soldier Boy.
You and I would be part of a very long queue."
.Ex British Army Sniper,Put me at the back of the queue and i'd still Drop them 2 Pricks. |
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"It's amazing how many people use religion to try and negate their wrongdoings.
Not just these guys who claim to have killed 'in the name of Islam', but look at it on a wider scale. How many catholic priests have been exposed for paedophilia or rape? Religion was also the cause of the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland. I was born in a Catholic upbringing, and force-fed the religion at primary school, and had to attend church as a kid. After witnessing that my family are some of the biggest 'sinners' you could wish to meet, I became a self-appointed aetheist. So these days, I say fuck religion - it's just for hypocrites. And to quote a line from the biggest book of conspiracy theories, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
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Whilst I agree religion has a lot to answer for I have to point out that the troubles in Ireland were not only a religious thing. Bobby Sands was atheist and so was many other republicans. They saw it as a war against the British not Protestants.
I have no idea what the two people who murdered Lee Rigby think they are fighting against though, but it does seem to be a very misguided warped view of their religion. |
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I have no idea what the two people who murdered Lee Rigby think they are fighting against though, but it does seem to be a very misguided warped view of their religion. "
Exactly. They are typical of the sort of weirdos who use the term 'religion' as some sort of shield to hide behind. In reality, they are anything but religious. |
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I have no idea what the two people who murdered Lee Rigby think they are fighting against though, but it does seem to be a very misguided warped view of their religion.
Exactly. They are typical of the sort of weirdos who use the term 'religion' as some sort of shield to hide behind. In reality, they are anything but religious."
..Been to some shit holes and been in a bad situation a few times and i did pray to God,But he never came to help,My mates did. |
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" .......Bobby Sands was atheist .......
That'll come as a shock to the priest who administered the Last Rites."
I hope that I'll be given a secular funeral when I die, if such a thing ever exists. |
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I love the irony that drips off some posts in threads like this....
"X is a scumbag for killing Y in such a way. If had my chance I'd happily kill X"
Quality, keep it up. You're advancing the cause of humanity with every word. |
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These men were recruited by extremists who prey on the week to do their bidding. They are taught they are fighting unbelievers who need to be cleansed from the earth.
They are not fighting for a country. This is why no matter what country or cause a Christian fights for a percentage of Muslims will see it as an attack on Islam... When we fought Argentina, we fought invaders we didn't see it as fighting christians. Some muslims see it as a Christian Vs Islam war...
They want the whole world to be muslim... A recent study has reported that if things don't chane Europe will be predominantly muslim by the end of this century... |
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"A recent study has reported that if things don't chane Europe will be predominantly muslim by the end of this century..."
Was that a study carried out by the BNP, by any chance? |
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"I love the irony that drips off some posts in threads like this....
"X is a scumbag for killing Y in such a way. If had my chance I'd happily kill X"
Quality, keep it up. You're advancing the cause of humanity with every word."
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"A recent study has reported that if things don't chane Europe will be predominantly muslim by the end of this century..."
No such report actually exists though does it?
It's just bullshit scaremongering by the far right who pander on people's ignorance. Less than 5% of the UK population is currently Muslim (and I'd suggest that probably a suitable benchmark for most of Europe), how on earth could that become the majority in less than 90 years, society simply does not evolve like that. |
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"I'd still like to pepper them 2 cunts with 5.56 for what they did to that poor Soldier Boy.
the irony of this post is comedy gold.
brilliant "
This thread is full of unintentional comedy gold. Some peoples lack of irony is unbelievable |
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"A recent study has reported that if things don't chane Europe will be predominantly muslim by the end of this century...
No such report actually exists though does it?
It's just bullshit scaremongering by the far right who pander on people's ignorance. Less than 5% of the UK population is currently Muslim (and I'd suggest that probably a suitable benchmark for most of Europe), how on earth could that become the majority in less than 90 years, society simply does not evolve like that."
agreed..
even if there were a shred of evidence in this 'report', is anyone stupid enough to believe that the whole of one culture within any society think the same way as a minority of extremists within that particular group..
the majority of all folks regardless of their culture, religion or political beliefs just want to get on with life..
raise their kids, be healthy and happy etc etc.. |
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society.
Absolutely.
This extremist desert-deathcult should be outlawed."
Outlaw Islam based on a tiny percentage of extremists?
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"A recent study has reported that if things don't chane Europe will be predominantly muslim by the end of this century...
Was that a study carried out by the BNP, by any chance? "
No. I just read a fictional story about extremism and it was in the authors notes. You have to remember that new countries joining Europe have very large Islamic populations. Add to that the large amount of immigrants it is not too difficult to see how it could happen. If you count all the spellings of the name Muhammed it is the most popular boys name for babies. In certain parts of the country children born to immigrant parents out number children born to British parents.
I work with people from all races, cultures and beliefs and all of them are disgusted by the actions of the extremists. I am also a fairly intelligent person that doesn't fall for the crap spouted by the likes of the BNP. I welcome anyone to our country who adds to the country and is willing to live and let live...
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"The death penalty has no place in a civilised country like ours.
we are above that."
....It has every place in a uncivilized country we live in,What Bubble do you live in??.. |
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"These guys and their culture has no place in a British society.
Absolutely.
This extremist desert-deathcult should be outlawed.
Outlaw Islam based on a tiny percentage of extremists?
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What about outlawing religion on the basis of the number of clergy who use their position of trust to groom and abuse children? |
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The other month I had a lively debate with a EDL activist on Facebook. I had to end it when he decided the simplest answer was to meet me and 'kick my spine up through the top of my head', but anyway, he couldn't explain how his trying to impose a minority and extreme view was that different to an alternative nutjob trying to impose their minority and extreme view.  |
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