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By *aravancouple OP   Man  over a year ago

A Secret Hideaway In the caravan of love

I'd certainly think twice about divorcing one of the Saatchi's

I have no doubt that a lot of dirty washing will be aired on both sides.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

Wherever there's money involved.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him. "

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?"

no his first wife, she said he never hit her, so makes you wonder.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who knows what happens behind closed doors!

That's the only trouble of being in the media! So many people making judgements about something they know absolutely nothing about!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who knows what happens behind closed doors!

That's the only trouble of being in the media! So many people making judgements about something they know absolutely nothing about! "

who really cares anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'd certainly think twice about divorcing one of the Saatchi's

I have no doubt that a lot of dirty washing will be aired on both sides."

I'm thinking that Nigella will have a load more dirty washing than him though! All those pots n pans won't do themselves you know!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?

no his first wife, she said he never hit her, so makes you wonder."

I know you meant his first wife, we're not talking about her though.

It doesn't make me wonder at all, there's independent photographic evidence, to say he assaulted Nigella in public.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him. "

Is she still getting alimony?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him. "

Probably because her larynx was still recovering from a throttling!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'd certainly think twice about divorcing one of the Saatchi's

I have no doubt that a lot of dirty washing will be aired on both sides.

I'm thinking that Nigella will have a load more dirty washing than him though! All those pots n pans won't do themselves you know! "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?

no his first wife, she said he never hit her, so makes you wonder."

wonder what?

that the picture was staged?

you did actually see the picture where he had her by the throat I assume..?

that look in her eyes isn't one of 'this is a surprise'..

looks more like 'here we go again'..

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

all so undignified when it starts...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Who knows what happens behind closed doors!

That's the only trouble of being in the media! So many people making judgements about something they know absolutely nothing about!

who really cares anyway?"

agree on the first point..

when DV is in the public domain we should all 'care'..

regardless of whom it is..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?

no his first wife, she said he never hit her, so makes you wonder.

wonder what?

that the picture was staged?

you did actually see the picture where he had her by the throat I assume..?

that look in her eyes isn't one of 'this is a surprise'..

looks more like 'here we go again'..

"

That look in her eyes isnt one of surprise how can you know that.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?

no his first wife, she said he never hit her, so makes you wonder.

wonder what?

that the picture was staged?

you did actually see the picture where he had her by the throat I assume..?

that look in her eyes isn't one of 'this is a surprise'..

looks more like 'here we go again'..

That look in her eyes isnt one of surprise how can you know that. "

to be honest I don't know, that's my opinion..

would also be inclined to think that anyone 'comfortable' enough in placing his hand on another persons throat in public has previous..

what was it you were wondering about in relation to your earlier post on this..?

you seem to want to avoid that..

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By *unglerivermonkeyMan  over a year ago

Scarborough


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Is she still getting alimony?"

Cocaine I think

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He abuses her ... she has the strength to walk away ...

Now she takes cocaine

Who knows if she did - yes its wrong but what he did was completely abhorrent

All I see is a master manipulator

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didn't have anything bad to say about him.

Is she still getting alimony?

Cocaine I think"

Speculation...unlike the photographic evidence of the DV. There is non on the drugs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"his first wife didnt have anything bad to say about him.

Did he try to strangle her over dinner though?

no his first wife, she said he never hit her, so makes you wonder.

wonder what?

that the picture was staged?

you did actually see the picture where he had her by the throat I assume..?

that look in her eyes isn't one of 'this is a surprise'..

looks more like 'here we go again'..

That look in her eyes isnt one of surprise how can you know that. "

Regardless whether it was the first time or the hundredth time domestic violence is abhorrent and unjustifiable and no one should even try to make excuses for it.

My opinion is that he should have been charged with common assault at the very least when those pictures came out...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Tbh, who gives a fuck if the lass did take cocaine!! Anyone with half a brain can see this accusation of 'alleged' drug taking for what it really is.

A smoke screen to take the heat off a wife beater and two 'alleged' fraudsters.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts. "

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here."

no, but that doesn't mean she is faultless. All I'm saying is we don't know all the facts, and therefore we are not judge, jury and executioner. We know what we saw in a picture, not the circumstances leading to it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here.

no, but that doesn't mean she is faultless. All I'm saying is we don't know all the facts, and therefore we are not judge, jury and executioner. We know what we saw in a picture, not the circumstances leading to it. "

Whatever the circumstances its unjustifiable.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"would also be inclined to think that anyone 'comfortable' enough in placing his hand on another persons throat in public has previous.."

...previous what? Laying a hand on someone's throat doesn't necessarily mean DV. Perhaps they were into kinky stuff, just like lots of us on here are. Actually, that scenario I find much more credible than DV acted out in public, certainly when you're so much in the public eye.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here.

no, but that doesn't mean she is faultless. All I'm saying is we don't know all the facts, and therefore we are not judge, jury and executioner. We know what we saw in a picture, not the circumstances leading to it. "

NO circumstances should lead to a female being publically throttled by a man!

Satchi looked menacing and intimidating in the pictures leading up to the throttling. Nigella looked weary and fearful.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here.

no, but that doesn't mean she is faultless. All I'm saying is we don't know all the facts, and therefore we are not judge, jury and executioner. We know what we saw in a picture, not the circumstances leading to it. "

Are the 'circstances' any of our business?

The hand round the throat incident has been dealt with.

What more are we entitled to be told?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"would also be inclined to think that anyone 'comfortable' enough in placing his hand on another persons throat in public has previous..

...previous what? Laying a hand on someone's throat doesn't necessarily mean DV. Perhaps they were into kinky stuff, just like lots of us on here are. Actually, that scenario I find much more credible than DV acted out in public, certainly when you're so much in the public eye.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here.

no, but that doesn't mean she is faultless. All I'm saying is we don't know all the facts, and therefore we are not judge, jury and executioner. We know what we saw in a picture, not the circumstances leading to it.

Are the 'circstances' any of our business?

The hand round the throat incident has been dealt with.

What more are we entitled to be told?"

exactly my point lol. Thank you for making it for me. No, they aren't. And had it not been for a pap'd picture, neither would that I suspect. But all you close minded idiots just want to jump on a bandwagon without knowing any facts, just what you saw on a photo. But that's fine. I'm much more open minded to the fact things are rarely black and white.

Enjoy your evening playing the British Justice System all

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts.

It's worth remembering Ms Lawson isn't actually being accused of anything.

She's not in the dock here.

no, but that doesn't mean she is faultless. All I'm saying is we don't know all the facts, and therefore we are not judge, jury and executioner. We know what we saw in a picture, not the circumstances leading to it.

Are the 'circstances' any of our business?

The hand round the throat incident has been dealt with.

What more are we entitled to be told?

exactly my point lol. Thank you for making it for me. No, they aren't. And had it not been for a pap'd picture, neither would that I suspect. But all you close minded idiots just want to jump on a bandwagon without knowing any facts, just what you saw on a photo. But that's fine. I'm much more open minded to the fact things are rarely black and white.

Enjoy your evening playing the British Justice System all "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OK, so its fairly common knowledge on here that I like kinky stuff. My kinky stuff includes being choked.... BUT if any man ever decides to put his hands around my neck in public then he will be doing it without consent. Without consent meaning it is against the law.

Regardless of what they are or aren't into - there is no excuse for what he did.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"OK, so its fairly common knowledge on here that I like kinky stuff. My kinky stuff includes being choked.... BUT if any man ever decides to put his hands around my neck in public then he will be doing it without consent. Without consent meaning it is against the law.

Regardless of what they are or aren't into - there is no excuse for what he did. "

No excuse for what Saatchi did. The fact he accepted a police caution shows even he accept this.

The tricky bits are 'consent' and 'public'.

Does anyone have an all embracing definition of either that works in everyday life?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OK, so its fairly common knowledge on here that I like kinky stuff. My kinky stuff includes being choked.... BUT if any man ever decides to put his hands around my neck in public then he will be doing it without consent. Without consent meaning it is against the law.

Regardless of what they are or aren't into - there is no excuse for what he did.

No excuse for what Saatchi did. The fact he accepted a police caution shows even he accept this.

The tricky bits are 'consent' and 'public'.

Does anyone have an all embracing definition of either that works in everyday life?"

Consent is a very easy concept to understand! If someone says yes than that means yes, if someone says no that means no.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"OK, so its fairly common knowledge on here that I like kinky stuff. My kinky stuff includes being choked.... BUT if any man ever decides to put his hands around my neck in public then he will be doing it without consent. Without consent meaning it is against the law.

Regardless of what they are or aren't into - there is no excuse for what he did.

No excuse for what Saatchi did. The fact he accepted a police caution shows even he accept this.

The tricky bits are 'consent' and 'public'.

Does anyone have an all embracing definition of either that works in everyday life?

Consent is a very easy concept to understand! If someone says yes than that means yes, if someone says no that means no. "

I did specify 'everyday life'. If two people are planning to have sex, does either of them ever say to the other 'do I have your consent to have sex with you?'

If, as is normally argued, there's a 'presumed consent', how can someone know if that consent has been rescinded?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts. "

generally I would agree with you however it does beg the question as to why someone with the financial resources that he has to hand chose to accept a Police caution and chose not to fight his case in open court..?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"would also be inclined to think that anyone 'comfortable' enough in placing his hand on another persons throat in public has previous..

...previous what? Laying a hand on someone's throat doesn't necessarily mean DV. Perhaps they were into kinky stuff, just like lots of us on here are. Actually, that scenario I find much more credible than DV acted out in public, certainly when you're so much in the public eye.

"

why does an innocent person in that case accept a police caution rather than give an explanation such as you suggest..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Again, I am not speculating or trying to judge the case, but because the photograph was somewhat damning, maybe it was easier to accept a caution that have a shit flinging match in a court?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Again, I am not speculating or trying to judge the case, but because the photograph was somewhat damning, maybe it was easier to accept a caution that have a shit flinging match in a court? "

I was thinking the same.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"but all you close minded idiots just want to jump on a bandwagon without knowing any facts, just what you saw on a photo. But that's fine. I'm much more open minded to the fact things are rarely black and white.

"

how ironic someone so 'open minded' refers to others of an opposite _iew in a debate as you just did..

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Again, I am not speculating or trying to judge the case, but because the photograph was somewhat damning, maybe it was easier to accept a caution that have a shit flinging match in a court? "

Isn't that what's happening now anyway? Didn't save much face did he really.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Again, I am not speculating or trying to judge the case, but because the photograph was somewhat damning, maybe it was easier to accept a caution that have a shit flinging match in a court? "

Seemed the most logical explanation for me (in as far as I was bovvered about the whole thing)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Again, I am not speculating or trying to judge the case, but because the photograph was somewhat damning, maybe it was easier to accept a caution that have a shit flinging match in a court?

I was thinking the same."

and the possibility that any previous DV would also come to light..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Here we go again. All speculation. Just give a rest.

(I'm the proud wearer of a button saying "I am hated by the Daily Mail")

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And you think it won't anyway? you think Nigella Lawson won't turn this into a positive and have a million selling pound book if she has a story to tell?

Doesn't mean we will be any the wiser into the what's, whys and wherefores or someone else's relationship and the lifestyle they lived. Just a one sided story from a person none of us know or can confirm to be genuine or not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Here we go again. All speculation. Just give a rest.

(I'm the proud wearer of a button saying "I am hated by the Daily Mail")"

I almost feel sorry for the old chap, the way people talk, as if he is some sort of monster.

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By *aravancouple OP   Man  over a year ago

A Secret Hideaway In the caravan of love


"Here we go again. All speculation. Just give a rest.

(I'm the proud wearer of a button saying "I am hated by the Daily Mail")

I almost feel sorry for the old chap, the way people talk, as if he is some sort of monster. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seriously, I would never justify domestic violence. But who here actually has a clue what happened? No body. Who is to see she hadn't been battering and mentally abusing him for years, said something that day which made him snap, and that was the result? No one knows the state of their marriage or the circumstances surrounding what he/she is like, so why assume when you know nothing? Leave that to the lawyers and courts. "

I agree. No way of knowing which it was. Although it looks.................

Also, do they have proof she was taking cocaine or is that just an accusation? If it's not been proven I think it's ridiculous that they can print it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You should have met my ex. Satan in disguise

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You should have met my ex. Satan in disguise "

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