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over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
Not exactly a school trip then is it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?"
The school where my kids go offers trips that cost a couple of thousand pounds. Thankfully they also offer cheaper alternatives too.
They wanted £500 each for a trip to Krakow, I just laughed and told them when my kids go there we'll stay with my uncle for free...  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
Not exactly a school trip then is it?"
It's a trip organised by school, accompanied by there teachers so I'd say it's a school trip |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
So 500 quid for the flights and 3000 quid for end of terrace maisonette? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
My sons school did a similar trip. We told him he couldn't go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
It’s an awful lot of money, but what a fantastic experience,,,  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
They want you to pay them to keep a child labour force?!....if it were me I'd be asking some serious questions. |
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
Not exactly a school trip then is it?
It's a trip organised by school, accompanied by there teachers so I'd say it's a school trip"
nice holiday for the Staff  |
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By *inge61Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
Not exactly a school trip then is it?
It's a trip organised by school, accompanied by there teachers so I'd say it's a school trip"
say ye paying for the teachers too lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
It’s an awful lot of money, but what a fantastic experience,,, "
Yeah it's a fantastic experience but she won't be going, we don't have 3500 grand lying around,
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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When my daughter was in 6th form they were offered two trips. One to LA, costing nearly £2000, and one to Iceland, costing £600. And because no-one could afford them, they were both cancelled.
I know schools have got to recoup their costs but surely a reasonably priced trip that happens is better than a very expensive one that doesn't.
Also, charity trips are usually cheaper DIY. |
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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago
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My school trips were cheap in comparison. I would say if she wants to go they can work after finishing school college then pay for herself.
It just makes it a holiday for those that can afford it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sorry dear child we have had to make cut backs due to every one being shafted these days we are the lucky ones that can just aford to put clothes on ur back feed you heat the house now you feel the need to ask for more at this time of the year we are having to borrow money for ur xmas but ok we will see what else we can do without in the house and have a sale see what we can do for you sort of speach may be needed  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When my daughter was in 6th form they were offered two trips. One to LA, costing nearly £2000, and one to Iceland, costing £600. And because no-one could afford them, they were both cancelled.
I know schools have got to recoup their costs but surely a reasonably priced trip that happens is better than a very expensive one that doesn't.
Also, charity trips are usually cheaper DIY."
They could have went to farmfoods for a tenner!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
It’s an awful lot of money, but what a fantastic experience,,,
Yeah it's a fantastic experience but she won't be going, we don't have 3500 grand lying around,
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Tell you what, send the little scamp round mine, for £20 she can build my shed, walk the dog and clean the chimney. I also won't expose her to malaria or any other tropical diseases. However, with this being Coalville I cannot guarantee that she won't be beheaded!... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"When my daughter was in 6th form they were offered two trips. One to LA, costing nearly £2000, and one to Iceland, costing £600. And because no-one could afford them, they were both cancelled.
I know schools have got to recoup their costs but surely a reasonably priced trip that happens is better than a very expensive one that doesn't.
Also, charity trips are usually cheaper DIY."
Yeah it's just infeasible not many people have 3500 spare for one child to go away with school |
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
It’s an awful lot of money, but what a fantastic experience,,,
Yeah it's a fantastic experience but she won't be going, we don't have 3500 grand lying around,
Tell you what, send the little scamp round mine, for £20 she can build my shed, walk the dog and clean the chimney. I also won't expose her to malaria or any other tropical diseases. However, with this being Coalville I cannot guarantee that she won't be beheaded!... "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
They are doing the same trip up at the school my eldest daughter went too, one of the mums that i am friends with her son is going, but he has got to do fund raising to go. Which i thought was a brilliant idea of hers, I think he has another year before he goes. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry dear child we have had to make cut backs due to every one being shafted these days we are the lucky ones that can just aford to put clothes on ur back feed you heat the house now you feel the need to ask for more at this time of the year we are having to borrow money for ur xmas but ok we will see what else we can do without in the house and have a sale see what we can do for you sort of speach may be needed "
Yeah that is basically the speech we have had, except it sort of went, are they taking the Micky? We don't have the money to send you |
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By *Kgirl80Woman
over a year ago
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Having been part of a similar trip, but to Kenya.... I can confirm that staff pay the same fees, the children's prices don't subsidise the staff in any way - it's not allowed by law.
A lot of the children involved in ours carried out fundraising events in the local community to raise money towards the cost (£2800) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
Not exactly a school trip then is it?
It's a trip organised by school, accompanied by there teachers so I'd say it's a school trip"
Which will offer a fantastaic life experience. But offers no obvious academic benefit. And is after they have done their A-levels.
So like I say not really a school trip. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Having been part of a similar trip, but to Kenya.... I can confirm that staff pay the same fees, the children's prices don't subsidise the staff in any way - it's not allowed by law.
A lot of the children involved in ours carried out fundraising events in the local community to raise money towards the cost (£2800) "
That isn't usual.
Usually the organising company charges a 'donation' per student with a requirement of a certain staff:student ratio. Providing a minimum amount of students sign up the staff required go free.
There are good providers and ripoff providers. This is clearly a ripoff provider. |
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
so they are offering you the 'opportunity' to pay over £165 a day to allow your child to work overseas for 3 weeks unpaid ??? |
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By *Kgirl80Woman
over a year ago
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"and erm what's the law that prevents it?!"
This is not a school trip, in school time. It's an additional 'experience' being offered, with the supervision of, I assume, trusted school staff.
Unless the school has detailed clearly that each child's cost is contributing to staff expenses, it would be fraud? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses
so they are offering you the 'opportunity' to pay over £165 a day to allow your child to work overseas for 3 weeks unpaid ??? "
That pretty much sums it up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"and erm what's the law that prevents it?!
This is not a school trip, in school time. It's an additional 'experience' being offered, with the supervision of, I assume, trusted school staff.
Unless the school has detailed clearly that each child's cost is contributing to staff expenses, it would be fraud? "
No they're cleverer than that (the companies or 'charities').
The company provides the staff place for 'free' providing the ratio (usually 1:8) have paid the required 'donation'.
So 8 kids donate £3k each and the company provides one free staff place. So in theory the kids haven't been raising anything towards staff costs because the staff place was 'free'. Bullshit of course but that's how it's done.
There are good providers too but they're usually smaller and harder to organise. |
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By *Kgirl80Woman
over a year ago
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"and erm what's the law that prevents it?!
This is not a school trip, in school time. It's an additional 'experience' being offered, with the supervision of, I assume, trusted school staff.
Unless the school has detailed clearly that each child's cost is contributing to staff expenses, it would be fraud?
No they're cleverer than that (the companies or 'charities').
The company provides the staff place for 'free' providing the ratio (usually 1:8) have paid the required 'donation'.
So 8 kids donate £3k each and the company provides one free staff place. So in theory the kids haven't been raising anything towards staff costs because the staff place was 'free'. Bullshit of course but that's how it's done.
There are good providers too but they're usually smaller and harder to organise."
I would have to conclude then that perhaps if this is the case, in this instance, the school governors should be made aware and change provider. I doubt any would want their school to be seen as a school that 'cons' parents out of cash to subsidise teacher's trips!
As I said before, in my experience staff have paid in full themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To be fair it's not that the school is conning anyone. What they will see is a professional, well established provider with insurance, track record and free places for teachers - which is a big issue considering that if teachers don't go the trip doesn't happen.
The issue lies with the providers.
I would be more concerned at the amount of money being used up in admin that could instead be used for charitable benefits. For a little extra effort it's possible to do something far more worthwhile for much less.
I'll also throw in what I always say to these kinds if expeditions - what the fuck makes people think people can't build their own houses? |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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I did a Peru trip that I needed to raise £3k for a few years back...the trip itself cost about £1400, the rest went to the charity...it was hard work fund raising, but very satisfying. I think kids would struggle without a lot of family support with the fundraising but what an achievement if they did it. I know a couple of local schools doing similar - no idea of take up on it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That;s gone up then. My daughter went a few years ago and it was half that price. Still expensive but she put some of her own money to it. Then there is all the gear to buy, or hire. aaarggh  |
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over a year ago
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Great price on ski's ebay snow on way find big hill all for bargan price and will be able to sell on make profit cheap package deal and no hassle clearing airport security checks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that 3 should be £? Or there is an extra zero?
No it really is 3500 pounds, 3 weeks in borneo helping build schools and houses"
You could build a city in Borneo for that sort of money |
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"World challenge ....when does the fundraising start ....:P amazing that the teachers get to go at no cost (other than the gear/equipment they take with them) "
and giving up their free time with their own families to look after other peoples children ... |
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