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Carl Froch Vs George Groves
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After deciding I can't be asked to go out and watch the fight I have ordered it.
Predictions people?
I say Froch on points."
I'm watching it too bro, my parents are there, they went yesterday the fucks!
Not really mum and dad aha! 
But really you will fuck...
/I didn't just type that.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"After deciding I can't be asked to go out and watch the fight I have ordered it.
Predictions people?
I say Froch on points."
you ordered the fight.... wow... i'll be probably watching it via an.... ahem... stream later.....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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im going with Groves after watching the weigh in yesterday he never took his eyes off froch even when froch tried chatting in his ear he never took his eyes off froch.
the undercard is great as well |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not a massive boxing fan, but watched some of the build up to this fight, and George grooves as come across as a complete and utter cock imo, I hope froch destroys him in 5 rounds |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"After deciding I can't be asked to go out and watch the fight I have ordered it.
Predictions people?
I say Froch on points.
I'm watching it too bro, my parents are there, they went yesterday the fucks!
Not really mum and dad aha!
But really you will fuck...
/I didn't just type that.
/"you did". "
You alright fella lol |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I don't have sky sob sob and up I ain't going out to watch it on my jack jones  "
I'll send you a few links later on to watch it... lol but you have to keep it hush hush...lol
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"After deciding I can't be asked to go out and watch the fight I have ordered it.
Predictions people?
I say Froch on points.
you ordered the fight.... wow... i'll be probably watching it via an.... ahem... stream later..... "
Yeah I did was gonna order Haye vs Fury but as it's off I am gonna order this got all the makings of a Eubank Vs Benn fight.
Those crash when you try and watch them so I hear  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"im going with Groves after watching the weigh in yesterday he never took his eyes off froch even when froch tried chatting in his ear he never took his eyes off froch.
the undercard is great as well "
I think Groves has the ability to beat him but changing your trainer the month before the biggest fight of your life is a bad idea.
He will have to stop Froch to win I think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"im going with Groves after watching the weigh in yesterday he never took his eyes off froch even when froch tried chatting in his ear he never took his eyes off froch.
the undercard is great as well
I think Groves has the ability to beat him but changing your trainer the month before the biggest fight of your life is a bad idea.
He will have to stop Froch to win I think."
yeah definitely not the usual way of preparing for the biggest fight of his career by dumping your trainer and like you he has to stop froch.
i believe he can and he will.
groves is the new eubank, he gets under other fighters skin without doing much but he is like eubank a very talented technician. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What time does it start, i might listen to it on the radio.?. Or can you watch somewhere on the web?
they are due in the ring anytime after 9.30pm "
I think it will be more like 10:00 10:15 I reckon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What time does it start, i might listen to it on the radio.?. Or can you watch somewhere on the web?
they are due in the ring anytime after 9.30pm I think it will be more like 10:00 10:15 I reckon."
me to however i would rather tell him earlier so he doesn't miss it |
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By *r OreoMan
over a year ago
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radio 5 live are broadcasting it for those who cant access a link.
I remember the good old days when you could watch this on ITV - and boxers were proper celebrities, now nobody would even know Froch is he passed them on the street. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After deciding I can't be asked to go out and watch the fight I have ordered it.
Predictions people?
I say Froch on points.
you ordered the fight.... wow... i'll be probably watching it via an.... ahem... stream later..... "
you do know pm's can be a great way of making friends, young man.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After deciding I can't be asked to go out and watch the fight I have ordered it.
Predictions people?
I say Froch on points.
you ordered the fight.... wow... i'll be probably watching it via an.... ahem... stream later.....
Yeah I did was gonna order Haye vs Fury but as it's off I am gonna order this got all the makings of a Eubank Vs Benn fight.
Those crash when you try and watch them so I hear "
Eubank and Benn was probably the last time I watched any boxing  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't have sky sob sob and up I ain't going out to watch it on my jack jones
I'll send you a few links later on to watch it... lol but you have to keep it hush hush...lol
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can you send one this way please |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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thing is about Groves changing his trainer.
was listening to the radio in the week and they said the relationship with the last trainer had all but broken down.
i will go with the experts on this and say the longer the fight goes, the more towards Froch i am going to lean.
hope its gonna be a good fight though. well, better than a lot of the dross that has been on just lately anyway.
changing tack a little, anyone seen eubanks junior fight?
he looks a handy lad, with a bit of the old mans swagger |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"thing is about Groves changing his trainer.
was listening to the radio in the week and they said the relationship with the last trainer had all but broken down.
i will go with the experts on this and say the longer the fight goes, the more towards Froch i am going to lean.
hope its gonna be a good fight though. well, better than a lot of the dross that has been on just lately anyway.
changing tack a little, anyone seen eubanks junior fight?
he looks a handy lad, with a bit of the old mans swagger"
i have although they are big shoes to fill but he is good |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"thing is about Groves changing his trainer.
was listening to the radio in the week and they said the relationship with the last trainer had all but broken down.
i will go with the experts on this and say the longer the fight goes, the more towards Froch i am going to lean.
hope its gonna be a good fight though. well, better than a lot of the dross that has been on just lately anyway.
changing tack a little, anyone seen eubanks junior fight?
he looks a handy lad, with a bit of the old
mans swagger"
He looks a good prospect not had a real test yet though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fucking stoppage my arse!!!
Groves was battering the shit out of froch!
Groves was fighting back. The ref git that wrong.
I hope Eddie Hearn rips that ref to pieces over that.
All 3 judges had groves ahead on every round.
Wtf?...  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I don't think the ref should have stopped it at that point let him take a count.
I have seen a few controversial wins for matchroom boxings top fighters.
Feel for Groves top performance regardless of the result |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My dad is there. He's sat 3 rows from the fucking ring.
Froch's face is punched up.
Froch got beat.
These fucking refs are getting out of hand.
Look at the reaction of the crowd...they know froch got beat...froch knows he got beat.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Only listened to it on radio as wouldnt feed sky pockets. But what I heard groves was up by 2/3 rounds froch had 1 good one and fight was stopped. Bit unfair and fans where booing.
Groves should be proud as ddnt think he had a chance |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Grooves was up by 5 rounds easy, a terrible stoppage he was in a bit of trouble but not knockout trouble.
Froch was rocked in round 1 should have stopped froch then if the ref goes by them rules
load of rubbish boxing getting worse |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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LLLLLLLLLLLLets get ready to RRREERRematch
What a shambles
So frotch touches canvas on the first but ref doesn't stop it, groves takes a few licks and he stops it.
And frotch the twat, is larging it afterwards as well, whereas as groves is more the admirable loser.
Just shows frotch knows he got proper lucky, should stick to twatty ITV second rate dance shows
I respected him before the fight, but when he refused to initially shake groves have after the bout - I say rematch and decorate the canvass with frotch |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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didn't pay i got it through a streaming link.
groves had froch on toast although he got caught in the 9th he should have been given the chance to fight his way out of it.
i agree with earlier comments with the scorecards as froch never won a round.
when six world champions say that the ref got it wrong and 20,000 fans boo groves into the ring then cheer groves out of the ring then that says it all. |
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By *cldnCouple
over a year ago
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I cant belive i pay for it every time!!!
You think thats bad mayweather vs alverez, one judge had it a draw. Watch the fight i gave mayweather every round. Boxing will always have this over it. Far to much money to be made by alot of people.
Groves has come out of this fight with all but the belts. And froch looks like a bit of a tosser i wondered when he would stop digging his hole during his post match interview. If it happens again it has to be at the o2 |
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By *cldnCouple
over a year ago
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"didn't pay i got it through a streaming link.
groves had froch on toast although he got caught in the 9th he should have been given the chance to fight his way out of it.
i agree with earlier comments with the scorecards as froch never won a round.
when six world champions say that the ref got it wrong and 20,000 fans boo groves into the ring then cheer groves out of the ring then that says it all."
When froch brought his gaurd up, i think in the 6th, that told you all you need to know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sky too cosy with matchrooms sports and two judges had the fight 76-75 wtf.
those judges should be questioned groves was up 5 rounds at least if not 6
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It wasn't a scorecard decision.
The ref stopped the fight. That was not a stoppage defo not.
If the ref is gonna use that measuring stick he should have stopped the fight in the first round when groves put him on the canvas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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the worrying thing is that the judges scorecards had froch 1or two rounds behind although he hardly landed a clean shot on groves in the first 8 rounds and groves out jabbed him and caught froch at will with his right.
frochs normal defence of leading with his chin
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Froch orchestrated the Pre-match hype to this like something from a WWF wrestling match , seems the judges / ref were following suit with their performances , why do some sportsman ' piss on their own fire ' at the end of a good career ?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"cant stand froch hes an arrogant tosser and i realy hoped he would get a pasting and by the sound of it he did . "
No I don't find him arrogant at all.
Carl Froch is not arrogant. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I just watched it again the ref should have let it carry on or given Groves a standing 8 count.
I think Froch will fight him again as this victory will not look good on his record. Unless he can fight another champion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sky too cosy with matchrooms sports and two judges had the fight 76-75 wtf.
those judges should be questioned groves was up 5 rounds at least if not 6
It wasn't a scorecard decision.
The ref stopped the fight. That was not a stoppage defo not.
If the ref is gonna use that measuring stick he should have stopped the fight in the first round when groves put him on the canvas. "
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I know I watched the full fight but that was what the judges had on there scorecards upto the stoppage my point being that even the scorecards were dodgy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sky too cosy with matchrooms sports and two judges had the fight 76-75 wtf.
those judges should be questioned groves was up 5 rounds at least if not 6
It wasn't a scorecard decision.
The ref stopped the fight. That was not a stoppage defo not.
If the ref is gonna use that measuring stick he should have stopped the fight in the first round when groves put him on the canvas.
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I know I watched the full fight but that was what the judges had on there scorecards upto the stoppage my point being that even the scorecards were dodgy"
Oh right yeah.
I thought you meant it was a scorecard fight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ref stopped groves from being knocked out by frochs uppercut."
You must have been watching a different fight.
Groves was fighting back. He was punching his way off the ropes.
It was nowhere near a stoppage.
A stoppage to me is when no defence is being made. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"cant stand froch hes an arrogant tosser and i realy hoped he would get a pasting and by the sound of it he did .
No I don't find him arrogant at all.
Carl Froch is not arrogant."
i agree i do not think froch is arrogant and as for his trainer Rob McCraken he is a top bloke. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think Froch is a bit of a big head to be honest but then again hes earnt it.
A ref should stop a fight when a fighter is not punching back and unable to defend himself
Groves was throwing back he even swung a left hook just before the ref stopped it and was showing body movement to get out of the way.
Froch was unsteady on his feet after the 1st round knock-down so should have been stopped if you go but the rules the ref was following.
On Skys coverage 5 previous World Champions Khan Haye Mccory Nelson Woodhall and all top newspaper writers said it was a poor stoppage enough said really |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Groves was throwing back he even swung a left hook just before the ref stopped it and was showing body movement to get out of the way.
Froch was unsteady on his feet after the 1st round knock-down so should have been stopped if you go but the rules the ref was following.
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Unfortunately, if there is a rematch Groves will lose the fight.
Carl Froch was off guard lastnight.
It absolutely was not a stoppage.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Groves was throwing back he even swung a left hook just before the ref stopped it and was showing body movement to get out of the way.
Froch was unsteady on his feet after the 1st round knock-down so should have been stopped if you go but the rules the ref was following.
Unfortunately, if there is a rematch Groves will lose the fight.
Carl Froch was off guard lastnight.
It absolutely was not a stoppage.
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I'm not so sure...that jab and right hand were superb... Groves was a little careless at points, trading unnecessarily, though most of the time he came on top it was needless. A slightly more disciplined groves will decision froch next time who can only really offer more of the same - absorb punishment and try to take to the latter rounds when opponent tires..
I would be disappointed if froch doesn't offer rematch...but not surprised. I felt he only said it when lost the crowd after his 10 minute speech, post fight, going on and in about groves antics. Groves said he'd froch had weaknesses and that he'd exploit them, and he did. That lad will be a champion and will be considered a better boxer than froch IMO. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Id strongly fancy Groves to win.
His hand speed was faster more accurate better jab more power, his let down was youth and tactics.
Good pros after applying lots of pressure have a breather round in-between then step foot on the gas last min of each remaining round to catch judges eyes.
Just a few tactical changes and Groves at 26 will only get better and fitter.
I really do think Froch will dodge he for as long as he can. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The stoppage was premature, however, the tide had turned in the fight. If he hadn't stopped the fight, I believe Froch would have stopped him in that round, maybe only a few clean punches away.
Perhaps Groves should have gone down and taken an eight count.
The fact is that Groves was taking big shots, whilst his defense had gone, and was throwing nothing back, and received a sustained attack to the head. In this case, the referee is required to stop a fight for the safety of the fighter.
Froch took plenty if hits, ones and twos to the head, but never a sustained attack without a defense.
I think Groves, who had dominated until then had spent his load, and had been blowing for 2 rounds. A title fight is 12 rounds, and Groves, no matter how well he did for 8 rounds, was not able to get through 12 at that pace |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The stoppage was premature, however, the tide had turned in the fight. If he hadn't stopped the fight, I believe Froch would have stopped him in that round, maybe only a few clean punches away.
Perhaps Groves should have gone down and taken an eight count.
The fact is that Groves was taking big shots, whilst his defense had gone, and was throwing nothing back, and received a sustained attack to the head. In this case, the referee is required to stop a fight for the safety of the fighter.
Froch took plenty if hits, ones and twos to the head, but never a sustained attack without a defense.
I think Groves, who had dominated until then had spent his load, and had been blowing for 2 rounds. A title fight is 12 rounds, and Groves, no matter how well he did for 8 rounds, was not able to get through 12 at that pace"
That is bull shit.
The whole lot. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So when I said that Groves had dominated, you think that is bullshit? Interesting"
You said he was blowing for 2 rounds before the stoppage.
You must have been watching a different fight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As said before 5 yes 5 ex world Champions Amir Khan Glen McCory David Haye Jonny Nelson Richie Woodhall and numerous boxing writers all said it was a poor stoppage.
you ever seen any Evander Holyfield fights it been in worse trouble than that in his later 30's and 40's and went on to win.
Poor stoppage end of
And yet again Froch should have been stopped then after the 1st round knockdown he could hardly stand for me than 6-7 of the count! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i.e. Agree with everything Greedythump said in his above post...!
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My mum and dad were sat 3 rows away from the ring.
Groves was fighting. Froch could barely fucking stand up on his own weight.
He was gone.
That's always gonna be frowned upon as the title defense that was not defended unless Froch calls a rematch ..in the NEAR future with groves in his current form.
If Froch delays it..everyonevwho is anyone in Boxing is going to know that right now, groves is the better fighter.
To be fair I was in the pub watching it and I was being influenced by the chit chat around me.
But groves turned up to the fight with no crew..massive respect for that.
He fought the fight on his own bottle.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I watched the Full fight on Sky Box office in HD so best seat in the house so to speak lol
if adam booth was still in Groves corner he would have won he would have ordered him to use his jab in the middle rounds to concern energy
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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if adam booth was still in Groves corner he would have won he would have ordered him to use his jab in the middle rounds to concern energy
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Yeah I would say so.
My dad knows adam booth fairly well.
However Adam jumps between crowds.
Booth wss linked with groves and I think before the fight Booth honestly thought Groves wasn't ready for the fight.
On reflection and having seen groves demolish froch I think Booth is gonna be thinking "oh ok".
Booth is looking at the big fighters.
I think groves is gonna be a big fighter, wirld champ at his current weight.
Can groves step up a weight?..
Is Froch done?...nope!
Is Groves a better fighter?...yep.
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By *aydee65Man
over a year ago
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Could you imagine Howard Foster refereeing any of the Ward Gatti fights?? Or the Thrilla in Manilla...?? We wouldn't be talking about any of those fights today because he would have stopped them after a few rounds...!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you judge the stoppage as ultra safety first then maybe yes
but Groves is only 26 young strong fresh it was a 12 rounder and yes a World Title fight you do not step in that early unless someone is out cold on the ropes or the deck in my view.
Plus as stated I'm a massive boxing fan god how many fights I've seen someone in trouble on the ropes survive the round and then go onto win.
Funnily enough for you boxing fans out there that's happened to Froch twice times in the Jamaine Taylor fight then Froch knocked him out in last 30 seconds of Twelfth Round
The only way I can agree with the stoppage if was Grove was 40 years old and on a losing streak then you think as a ref... past it fighter save him the beating.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Funnily enough for you boxing fans out there that's happened to Froch twice times in the Jamaine Taylor fight then Froch knocked him out in last 30 seconds of Twelfth Round
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That's the thing Froch is a 12 round fighter.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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totally agree the point im making is if all refs applies that standard Froch would have lost.
Your changing your tune somewhat you sure you not seen a rerun of the fight hehe |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"joking mate lol
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Bro to be fair. ..
I'm talking horseshit.
I'm talking from the point of view of a spectator watching the fight on a screen from 10 different angles...the ref doesn't have that luxury.
The ref see's shit that I can't see.
But from what I could see on a tv screen it didn't look like froch hurt groves enough to stop the fight.
But the ref is closest to the action.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"joking mate lol
Bro to be fair. ..
I'm talking horseshit.
I'm talking from the point of view of a spectator watching the fight on a screen from 10 different angles...the ref doesn't have that luxury.
The ref see's shit that I can't see.
But from what I could see on a tv screen it didn't look like froch hurt groves enough to stop the fight.
But the ref is closest to the action.
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Groves got caught clean twice by very good shots...was buzzing... Just like froch had been in the first round when he's legs did the chicken dance. Maybe groves woulda gone down, taken the count...who knows how he'd have reacted? Could he go back to boxing or would he have lost discipline? It's unfair fot George to not know..but he'll get his chance if he continues working hard the way he has...
Timothy Bradley's recently title defence against provodnikov would have bought his first defeat had that ref been in there...
Two of the judges were blind though...having froch one point behind in the 9th??? I have froch maybe 3-4 rounds..that was pathetic. Looks like it woulda been controversial anyway!
Rematch...war groves!!!! Etc |
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Groves done better than i thought however the stoppage was after constant head shots landed and no punch thrown back landing due to double vision i would say as i use to box. Groves was up max 4 rounds or by 5 point difference in my eyes.
I do think froch was ready to land the uppercut just when ref stopped fight at the wrong time maybe 10-20seconds to early. |
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