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GB has given 50,000,000 aid to the Philippines
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I think I hope it helps to save lives and put people back on their feet, I hope it gets there quickly and helps to prevent the almost inevitable cholera outbreak. I also think that there will be some people who will resent us giving it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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has to be done.
Too many people would suffer if this money is not made available. I know this country is short of money, as we all are. but if we refuse to help in times of genuine crisis then we would not be British. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"what do you think ?  "
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry. |
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over a year ago
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Annoys me how everyone says this county is really hard up. Yes there are a small proportion of people who genuinely really struggle and they've lost thier jobs and I feel for them but there are also a lot of people who moan they haven't got much money and yet they have internet, a mobile phone contract, possibly satellite tv and some of them will smoke too. Right to give the money where it is truly needed |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You can't do right for doing wrong. Does make me think gov cutting back on vital services because aint got money then all of a sudden a big sum like that appears. Not saying they don't deserve it god bless them all. |
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"what do you think ?
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry."
I think this is also true, there are budgets for everything and God forbid that the money in one budget should be moved into another.
This is a problem that should be addressed urgently along with the "scrounger" vs "hardworking British people" mentality that has been encouraged |
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"Annoys me how everyone says this county is really hard up. Yes there are a small proportion of people who genuinely really struggle and they've lost thier jobs and I feel for them but there are also a lot of people who moan they haven't got much money and yet they have internet, a mobile phone contract, possibly satellite tv and some of them will smoke too. Right to give the money where it is truly needed "
if you are going to make sweeping statements like that best back them up with hard statistics. |
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It's less than one lottery win.
I would give more.
If it's not given you won't get it anyway.
Some people have lost whole families. Some have no fresh water. Most have no home , food or emotional support...
There should be no hesitation from anyone in giving .......question it later maybe but don't take it out on the victims. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what do you think ?
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry.
I think this is also true, there are budgets for everything and God forbid that the money in one budget should be moved into another.
This is a problem that should be addressed urgently along with the "scrounger" vs "hardworking British people" mentality that has been encouraged"
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Annoys me how everyone says this county is really hard up. Yes there are a small proportion of people who genuinely really struggle and they've lost thier jobs and I feel for them but there are also a lot of people who moan they haven't got much money and yet they have internet, a mobile phone contract, possibly satellite tv and some of them will smoke too. Right to give the money where it is truly needed
if you are going to make sweeping statements like that best back them up with hard statistics. "
That will prove difficult. Hard facts don't make good Mail headlines. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think is is absolutely the right thing to do, have you seen the scale of the devastation out there, this is just a drop in the ocean of it will be needed to rebuild their country.
Is this what the government has pledged or what has been donated by the public.
This is an awful situation and brought tears to my eyes when I saw the people on the news explaining what had happened to their families.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's less than one lottery win.
I would give more.
If it's not given you won't get it anyway.
Some people have lost whole families. Some have no fresh water. Most have no home , food or emotional support...
There should be no hesitation from anyone in giving .......question it later maybe but don't take it out on the victims."
Well said |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"how big is the aid budget id like to know ? i know we sent millions to india and there sending people to space while we are closeing all sorts of things here"
Indian have repeatedly told the British government that they don't need or want our aid but we still send it, however I believe that it ends in 2015 |
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By *irtydan OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think is is absolutely the right thing to do, have you seen the scale of the devastation out there, this is just a drop in the ocean of it will be needed to rebuild their country.
Is this what the government has pledged or what has been donated by the public.
This is an awful situation and brought tears to my eyes when I saw the people on the news explaining what had happened to their families. "
it said on the news the goverment had pledged it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is very sad but there are lots of people in the UK who have lost their jobs through the spending cuts, some have lost their homes, some have lost their families and sadly some have lost their lives, I personally think we should look after ourselves first off. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"how big is the aid budget id like to know ? i know we sent millions to india and there sending people to space while we are closeing all sorts of things here"
They're not sending people into space. |
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totaly wrong
the country in a mess as it is ,should think on getting our mess sorted out and in order befor giving every other country stupid ammouts of money,what are wee a bank for every othere countys needs yes befor you jump on it i know it is sad that its happend but even so cant see anyone jumping to our aid if somthing like that happend here , |
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By *irtydan OP Man
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"how big is the aid budget id like to know ? i know we sent millions to india and there sending people to space while we are closeing all sorts of things here
They're not sending people into space."
ok but they have a space programme that costing millions have we one ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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From what I've seen it doesn't look like some parts will ever fully recover from the devastation, that is a horrible thought.
They are more than welcome to the money and proves that we do care. |
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"It is very sad but there are lots of people in the UK who have lost their jobs through the spending cuts, some have lost their homes, some have lost their families and sadly some have lost their lives, I personally think we should look after ourselves first off."
Bad things happen when good people stand by and do nothing.
I think a world citizen mentality helps humanity best.
A them and us mentality lets people die. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"how big is the aid budget id like to know ? i know we sent millions to india and there sending people to space while we are closeing all sorts of things here
They're not sending people into space.ok but they have a space programme that costing millions have we one ?"
Yes actually. We send stuff up to Mars all the time. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"how big is the aid budget id like to know ? i know we sent millions to india and there sending people to space while we are closeing all sorts of things here"
The Indian space programme (to Mars) is, by their own admission, for no reason other than to be one up on their Chinese rivals. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Money well spent, and a damn site less money than would have been spent on a ' limited bombing campaign' of Syria , Camerdoch can have a clearer conscience over this one . Surely better to help those in dire need than to be the root cause of it ? . |
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Dear fab friend's maybe we could raise some cash it's the right thing The Philippine's floods are getting worse......one lady in Manila interviewed on Sky News has just said the water is up to her bollocks!  |
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"i just hope the money gets to the people who really need it,so much of aid money stays in the bank accounts of the people who are doing the admin of the aid,,and thats the truth,,,"
No that isn't the truth, that is simply your view and that doesn't make it a truth. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fine with me. I decided this week to donate a large amount of money to charity (large by my standards that is) this week.
I had two charities in mind. Children in need or RedCross for this disaster. I chose the latter. They need the most basic human requirements food and shelter. |
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By *aisy100Woman
over a year ago
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"I just hope the money sent will hit the right pockets, only then will it do any good!
History suggests it rarely does."
I know and thats whats frustrating and perhaps stops people from donating!
We are being asked to be generous and compassionate in very hard times but yet their own people are getting fatter bank balances showing no compassion for their own people |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A TV news story about three brothers burying their mother in the Phillipines earlier in the week actually made me cry, so I've no problem with this money going to help, provided (as stated above) it actually goes to help, and isn't spent on "admin". |
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"Annoys me how everyone says this county is really hard up. Yes there are a small proportion of people who genuinely really struggle and they've lost thier jobs and I feel for them but there are also a lot of people who moan they haven't got much money and yet they have internet, a mobile phone contract, possibly satellite tv and some of them will smoke too. Right to give the money where it is truly needed
if you are going to make sweeping statements like that best back them up with hard statistics. "
not really, u only have to look how our country operates compared to others |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
Tayside |
" The Philippine's floods are getting worse......one lady in Manila interviewed on Sky News has just said the water is up to her bollocks! "
psstt - Telling a joke twice doesn't usually make it any funnier!  |
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" The Philippine's floods are getting worse......one lady in Manila interviewed on Sky News has just said the water is up to her bollocks!
You've already done that joke."
I know sorry I'm still laughing thought it was that good -d post again for the new one's |
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" The Philippine's floods are getting worse......one lady in Manila interviewed on Sky News has just said the water is up to her bollocks!
psstt - Telling a joke twice doesn't usually make it any funnier! "
Come on this one is worth worth a 2nd read lol |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
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" The Philippine's floods are getting worse......one lady in Manila interviewed on Sky News has just said the water is up to her bollocks!
psstt - Telling a joke twice doesn't usually make it any funnier!
Come on this one is worth a 2nd read lol "
Being honest - nah it really wasn't! |
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" The Philippine's floods are getting worse......one lady in Manila interviewed on Sky News has just said the water is up to her bollocks!
psstt - Telling a joke twice doesn't usually make it any funnier!
Come on this one is worth a 2nd read lol
Being honest - nah it really wasn't! "
I'm bored now bye |
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"Annoys me how everyone says this county is really hard up. Yes there are a small proportion of people who genuinely really struggle and they've lost thier jobs and I feel for them but there are also a lot of people who moan they haven't got much money and yet they have internet, a mobile phone contract, possibly satellite tv and some of them will smoke too. Right to give the money where it is truly needed
if you are going to make sweeping statements like that best back them up with hard statistics. not really, u only have to look how our country operates compared to others "
Eh? How does comapring the way we operate to others negate the need to back up what you're claiming with evidence? |
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By *irtydan OP Man
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"I'm glad we have given this money. The only thing im not sure of does this £50m include the £30m that people gave donated to DEC in the last 3 days or is it in addition to that money. "
its in addition
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what do you think ?
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry."
I am anti foreign just for sake of it as we have folk in need here but the phillipines is different because it was nature that caused it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I truly despair sometimes. £50m is fuck all squared in the scheme of things and with 3,500 reported deaths (UNCHR estimates the final toll will exceed 15,000) It could equate to £3,500 per death..........or about £40 for each of the living who are displaced or injured. it should have been double that amount we could have flogged two euro fighters to fund it! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I haven't read through the responses as I don't want to get cross.
The amount of aid includes money from the aid match pot. This is where the government pledges to match your donation or that of another entity.
Have you seen the pictures of people living in amongst the putrefaction of their loved ones bodies? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is very sad but there are lots of people in the UK who have lost their jobs through the spending cuts, some have lost their homes, some have lost their families and sadly some have lost their lives, I personally think we should look after ourselves first of
The government doesnt give a damn fuck about the british people but only foriengers and illegal foriengers and asylum seekers and the likes ! and im not racist either ! Look what it does for the young generation, yes it does fuck all about them !f."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I haven't read through the responses as I don't want to get cross.
The amount of aid includes money from the aid match pot. This is where the government pledges to match your donation or that of another entity.
Have you seen the pictures of people living in amongst the putrefaction of their loved ones bodies?"
Get angry..........we can send probes to Mars but cannot help those who are in need......its beggars belief! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My brother is over there with his wife and two young babies he emigrated over there a few years ago and his house is gone his wife and daughters are now getting sick and they have no food or water, we have no way of getting money to them as the banks and western unions have all been decimated , do i think we have done the right thing is sending all that money over there in one sense yes as they are completely wiped out and have no hope at the moment but i also wonder why not enough is being done here in our own country to help those in vunerable positions, its a no win situation but i would hope that if we were in the same position the rest of the world would help us |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I haven't read through the responses as I don't want to get cross.
The amount of aid includes money from the aid match pot. This is where the government pledges to match your donation or that of another entity.
Have you seen the pictures of people living in amongst the putrefaction of their loved ones bodies?Get angry..........we can send probes to Mars but cannot help those who are in need......its beggars belief!"
I am not angry at foreign aid - I understand its purpose. I get cross at the lack of humanity I see spouted on here.
As to this government not spending money on people here, yes I get very angry at that. It is an ideological decision and instead of the electorate being angry at that ideology they buy the line that it is necessary and worse that it is the fault of the 'scroungers' that 'worthy, deserving' poor people have to suffer.
I don't confuse or conflate what is happening here with what is happening in the rest of the world and the human response to that. |
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I don't believe in all this giving money to every tom dick and harry overseas.But this is something I will and have given to.I have donated what I would of spend on takeaway and drink for a week. I have a roof over my head and food in the cupboard them poor people have nothing.So dig deep in your pockets and help. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Have you seen the pictures of people living in amongst the putrefaction of their loved ones bodies?
Have you seen the pictures of people queueing at foodbanks?"
More than that, I have been to foodbanks to offer my help. It is just not the same thing and pretty abhorrent to liken people with no access to food and clean water living on top of the rubble of their dead to those in this country queuing for food. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"I don't believe in all this giving money to every tom dick and harry overseas.But this is something I will and have given to.I have donated what I would of spend on takeaway and drink for a week. I have a roof over my head and food in the cupboard them poor people have nothing.So dig deep in your pockets and help."
So, how do you choose WHICH Tom, Dick or Harry to give to? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe in all this giving money to every tom dick and harry overseas.But this is something I will and have given to.I have donated what I would of spend on takeaway and drink for a week. I have a roof over my head and food in the cupboard them poor people have nothing.So dig deep in your pockets and help."
What about the people in this country with no roof over their head or no food, do you give to them as well. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe in all this giving money to every tom dick and harry overseas.But this is something I will and have given to.I have donated what I would of spend on takeaway and drink for a week. I have a roof over my head and food in the cupboard them poor people have nothing.So dig deep in your pockets and help.
What about the people in this country with no roof over their head or no food, do you give to them as well."
I pay £40k per year in income tax..........so yes I do |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe in all this giving money to every tom dick and harry overseas.But this is something I will and have given to.I have donated what I would of spend on takeaway and drink for a week. I have a roof over my head and food in the cupboard them poor people have nothing.So dig deep in your pockets and help.
What about the people in this country with no roof over their head or no food, do you give to them as well."
I do. As government has and is giving so much and rightly to phillipines from taxpayers coffers i aint donated to it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe in all this giving money to every tom dick and harry overseas.But this is something I will and have given to.I have donated what I would of spend on takeaway and drink for a week. I have a roof over my head and food in the cupboard them poor people have nothing.So dig deep in your pockets and help.
What about the people in this country with no roof over their head or no food, do you give to them as well.
I do. As government has and is giving so much and rightly to phillipines from taxpayers coffers i aint donated to it."
Good for you, nice to know someone cares. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
Don't forget, the bulk of the money 'given to the Philippines' doesn't actually get to poor people who are dying in the street.
Most of it is used to rebuild roads, harbours, airstips and the like. Step forward Aggreko, Lend Lease, Balfours etc - all Tory donors. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do believe we should help, but i don't think we should have given £50m.
What if every other large nation gives that amount, Germany, France, China, Japan, America , Australia just to name a few, that's an awful lot of money, if them 7 nations alone give then that's £350m
If it is only us giving £50m , then why are we giving so much ?
Our country is in a right mess, what with cut backs to our policing, fire service & nhs !!
That amount of money could go along way into help saving lives in our own country before we help others .
And would most countries give to us if it happened to us ?? I very much doubt it, |
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"I do believe we should help, but i don't think we should have given £50m.
What if every other large nation gives that amount, Germany, France, China, Japan, America , Australia just to name a few, that's an awful lot of money, if them 7 nations alone give then that's £350m
If it is only us giving £50m , then why are we giving so much ?
Our country is in a right mess, what with cut backs to our policing, fire service & nhs !!
That amount of money could go along way into help saving lives in our own country before we help others .
And would most countries give to us if it happened to us ?? I very much doubt it, "
........this country has sufficient resources to attend to all the social needs. Those resources just need spreading around with a little more equitably. A bit radical I know but its a fact. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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With a 'no one would help us so we shouldn't help them' attitude that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Most of the British aid will be spent on work that contractors will do. Countries closer to the Philippines have been donating food and water. A lot of our aid has been to supply the infrastructure that supports the aid workers, including their food, water, showers and beds. |
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"i just hope the money gets to the people who really need it,so much of aid money stays in the bank accounts of the people who are doing the admin of the aid,,and thats the truth,,,"
Or in the pockets (swiss bank accounts) of the ruling classes |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"It is very sad but there are lots of people in the UK who have lost their jobs through the spending cuts, some have lost their homes, some have lost their families and sadly some have lost their lives, I personally think we should look after ourselves first off.
Bad things happen when good people stand by and do nothing.
I think a world citizen mentality helps humanity best.
A them and us mentality lets people die."
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"i just hope the money gets to the people who really need it,so much of aid money stays in the bank accounts of the people who are doing the admin of the aid,,and thats the truth,,,
Or in the pockets (swiss bank accounts) of the ruling classes "
It is rarely handed over as money. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm so very proud of all the compassionate UK citizens (young and old) who’ve found it in their heart to reach out with offers of assistance and support to the people of the Philippines….  |
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Totally agree with giving aid to disaster victims like this.
Only thing that angers me is lack of support to our own.
A friend of mine has been flooded out of his home for the second time in 3 years. Also lost his car this time. But gets no help, probably wont be able to get any sort of insurance again & cant sell. But council neglect/apathy cause the problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This us and them attitude is what makes me sick.
We are all human beings, citizens of this world, be compassionate and help each other and help the most in need first.
There is plenty of money to help the needy in this country the government just choose not to, get angry at the goverment but dont take it out on other human beings totally destitute somewhere else.
If your gonna get angry about anything get angry about the goverment keeping the rich rich and the poor poorer and turning people against the most needy in this country. The distribution of wealth is the real problem, the elite classes living it up while everyone else suffers and fight over the scraps and turn on each other while they sit back laughing because the attention has been diverted off of themselves.
I dont begrudge a penny of that money going to the phillipines, they are totally destitute on a scale you just cannot compare to anything we have experienced over here. If it saves lives and stops disease breaking out large scale then im all for it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Children in need is on over this weekend !
If our government spent money on our country before every other country the places we all seen lastnight that can only survive to open 3-4 days a week, as it depends on the likes of children in need money, wouldn't need to depend on the public giving, that doesn't mean to say I didn't give any money towards it.
Thers a lot of sick, disabled, handicapped & very under privaliged people in our country we should be looking at helping before we help others.
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"Children in need is on over this weekend !
If our government spent money on our country before every other country the places we all seen lastnight that can only survive to open 3-4 days a week, as it depends on the likes of children in need money, wouldn't need to depend on the public giving, that doesn't mean to say I didn't give any money towards it.
Thers a lot of sick, disabled, handicapped & very under privaliged people in our country we should be looking at helping before we help others.
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Genuine question, do you see it as a solely the governments responsibility to provide all these services? |
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"This us and them attitude is what makes me sick.
We are all human beings, citizens of this world, be compassionate and help each other and help the most in need first.
There is plenty of money to help the needy in this country the government just choose not to, get angry at the goverment but dont take it out on other human beings totally destitute somewhere else.
If your gonna get angry about anything get angry about the goverment keeping the rich rich and the poor poorer and turning people against the most needy in this country. The distribution of wealth is the real problem, the elite classes living it up while everyone else suffers and fight over the scraps and turn on each other while they sit back laughing because the attention has been diverted off of themselves.
I dont begrudge a penny of that money going to the phillipines, they are totally destitute on a scale you just cannot compare to anything we have experienced over here. If it saves lives and stops disease breaking out large scale then im all for it."
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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago
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"what do you think ?
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry."
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Children in need is on over this weekend !
If our government spent money on our country before every other country the places we all seen lastnight that can only survive to open 3-4 days a week, as it depends on the likes of children in need money, wouldn't need to depend on the public giving, that doesn't mean to say I didn't give any money towards it.
Thers a lot of sick, disabled, handicapped & very under privaliged people in our country we should be looking at helping before we help others.
Genuine question, do you see it as a solely the governments responsibility to provide all these services?"
The government has to act as a provider of last resort.
If a disabled child it born to a parent or parents who simply cannot care for that child, should it be allowed to die of neglect in a corner somewhere?
The real question isn't should the government get involved, but how best the government can get involved. |
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"It is very sad but there are lots of people in the UK who have lost their jobs through the spending cuts, some have lost their homes, some have lost their families and sadly some have lost their lives, I personally think we should look after ourselves first off."
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Have you seen the pictures of people living in amongst the putrefaction of their loved ones bodies?
Have you seen the pictures of people queueing at foodbanks?
More than that, I have been to foodbanks to offer my help. It is just not the same thing and pretty abhorrent to liken people with no access to food and clean water living on top of the rubble of their dead to those in this country queuing for food."
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"It is very sad but there are lots of people in the UK who have lost their jobs through the spending cuts, some have lost their homes, some have lost their families and sadly some have lost their lives, I personally think we should look after ourselves first off. "
It doesn't have to be a choice.
We can do both. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Children in need is on over this weekend !
If our government spent money on our country before every other country the places we all seen lastnight that can only survive to open 3-4 days a week, as it depends on the likes of children in need money, wouldn't need to depend on the public giving, that doesn't mean to say I didn't give any money towards it.
Thers a lot of sick, disabled, handicapped & very under privaliged people in our country we should be looking at helping before we help others.
Genuine question, do you see it as a solely the governments responsibility to provide all these services?
The government has to act as a provider of last resort.
If a disabled child it born to a parent or parents who simply cannot care for that child, should it be allowed to die of neglect in a corner somewhere?
The real question isn't should the government get involved, but how best the government can get involved."
I meant it as in, if the government used all it's finances to help said charities, they wouldn't have to depend on such fund raising as much.
Same as in all of the governments cost cutting here there & everywhere !
There's a lot of help needed in the nursing profession as it was on the news earlier, they're understaffed, over worked & underpaid.
Same as the police & fire brigade
The fire brigade went on strike because of such things,
There's a lot of fat cats raking in public money & as I said earlier, I honestly do not mind helping the people of the Philippines out, but £50m is way far more than they should in my eyes, I do hope it helps them out, but there's a hell lot of things in our country that £50m could go towards to help sort out the mess it is in.
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"i just hope the money gets to the people who really need it,so much of aid money stays in the bank accounts of the people who are doing the admin of the aid,,and thats the truth,,,
Or in the pockets (swiss bank accounts) of the ruling classes
It is rarely handed over as money."
I hope they receive all the aid they require,from every quarter.
I also hope we give much more,and I hope we give it quickly.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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The government has to act as a provider of last resort.
If a disabled child it born to a parent or parents who simply cannot care for that child, should it be allowed to die of neglect in a corner somewhere?
The real question isn't should the government get involved, but how best the government can get involved.
I meant it as in, if the government used all it's finances to help said charities, they wouldn't have to depend on such fund raising as much.
Same as in all of the governments cost cutting here there & everywhere !
There's a lot of help needed in the nursing profession as it was on the news earlier, they're understaffed, over worked & underpaid.
Same as the police & fire brigade
The fire brigade went on strike because of such things,
There's a lot of fat cats raking in public money & as I said earlier, I honestly do not mind helping the people of the Philippines out, but £50m is way far more than they should in my eyes, I do hope it helps them out, but there's a hell lot of things in our country that £50m could go towards to help sort out the mess it is in.
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£50m really is not a lot in terms of government money. Don't forget the budget for HS2 is £40bn. How many £50 millions is that?
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By *IXERONEMan
over a year ago
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£50Million. is a drop in the ocean i think they should give more but that's me
i hope they rebuild quickly and get back to normal asap aslo if anyone diserees with what i say then you have no heart. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm building a startrek transporter for people who wish to sample the devastation,death and suffering from this tragic event
Hope you enjoy the overseas aid..and understand its actual purpose..and of course why its fucking right |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what do you think ?
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry."
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By (user no longer on site)
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I always find it a bit weird, there are many people saying we should be supporting our troops(which is absolutely fine) who are fighting abroad...but forgetting the billions that costs(and the actual purpose????!?)
Then they start complaining about our poverty in this country and its not getting sorted out
We spend billions on war..but people are complaining we are spending a fraction of that to provide humanitarian assistance
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"I'm glad we have given this money. The only thing im not sure of does this £50m include the £30m that people gave donated to DEC in the last 3 days or is it in addition to that money. its in addition "
Let's add a bit of perspective, the total listed above is still less than was paid for Gareth Bale! What kind of state is this planet in when people moan about providing aid to a devastated country but then go out on a Saturday afternoon and worship 22 overpaid morons kicking a ball for 90mins.  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm glad we have given this money. The only thing im not sure of does this £50m include the £30m that people gave donated to DEC in the last 3 days or is it in addition to that money. its in addition
Let's add a bit of perspective, the total listed above is still less than was paid for Gareth Bale! What kind of state is this planet in when people moan about providing aid to a devastated country but then go out on a Saturday afternoon and worship 22 overpaid morons kicking a ball for 90mins. "
A very good point. You have reminded me of the threads on this forum about the cost of footballers and so many saying they had earned it/are worth it. It's their money paying for it and just as with taxes they have no control how it is spent.
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"what do you think ?
I think it proves what I've said on here before. There's no shortage of money should the UK wish to find it.
The coalition just don't want to spend it on British folk who are cold and hungry."
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"Turns out many of the survivors have headed off to church this morning - to give thanks "
In one way I would imagine they are thankful for their lives, but on the other hand I imagine they also think it would be easier if they had lost their lives. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Turns out many of the survivors have headed off to church this morning - to give thanks
In one way I would imagine they are thankful for their lives, but on the other hand I imagine they also think it would be easier if they had lost their lives. "
You'd think, as Dog-botherers, they might be a bit pissed off at whichever Deity which sent the typhoon in the first place. |
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"Turns out many of the survivors have headed off to church this morning - to give thanks
In one way I would imagine they are thankful for their lives, but on the other hand I imagine they also think it would be easier if they had lost their lives.
You'd think, as Dog-botherers, they might be a bit pissed off at whichever Deity which sent the typhoon in the first place."
Dog botherers  I got the giggles now Onny.
Someone call the RSPCA |
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"Turns out many of the survivors have headed off to church this morning - to give thanks
In one way I would imagine they are thankful for their lives, but on the other hand I imagine they also think it would be easier if they had lost their lives.
You'd think, as Dog-botherers, they might be a bit pissed off at whichever Deity which sent the typhoon in the first place.
Dog botherers I got the giggles now Onny.
Someone call the RSPCA "
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