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By *UNCHBOX OP Man
over a year ago
folkestone |
Was at work today and the discussion got round to music and who is the best songwriter. One of the guys got very heated saying it was without question Bob Dylan, and every other songwriter isn't fit to lick his boots etc. One of the women told him that she thought ABBA were better songwriters because their songs had been played more, and sold more records. He got stroppy and told her that ABBA were just lift music and Dylan was 'proper' music.
Have you ever come across music snobs?
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Have you ever come across music snobs?"
All the time. I don't understand why people get so upset about what is basically personal preference. So what if I like a band you don't like? Who does it hurt?
PS And tell your mate ABBA are awesome!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dylan's song writing ...good but his singing ability is crap....he only got where he did because when he hit the scene everyone who listened to him was on drugs so he sounded great lol |
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I'm a music snob. There are some types of music I like others I dont, as said, that is a matter of taste.
However there is good, bad and frankly, disgusting formulaic music in every genre (how I hate that pretentious word) and I despise mediocrity and plagiarism. Sad fact is most "pop" music is turned out to a formula...
Set tempo at a multiple of 60 to 65 BPM so it is in sync with the resting heartbeat of an average young healthy human...60 to 65 for ballads, 120 to 130 for upbeat numbers and 180 to 189 for hardcore dance/rock/grunge. Then use a simple 3/4 4/4 beat with a simple repeating major or minor 3 cord progression. No need to be a competent musician no need to have a good voice computers can correct all mistakes.
I can fully understand how anyone who understands talent would say that a poet like Dylan wipes the floor with the regurgitated pop pap turned out by ABBA. However I also understand how someone who is musically uneducated would consider that ABBA's "Janet and John" outpourings would be superior to anything that requires a medico of musical literacy.
Hey Ho...
Musical snob here...
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By *at2Couple
over a year ago
north Down |
I spent a whole afternoon with Bob Dylan, Van Morrison and some fella called pj Probie back in 1984 my boss at the time was really pissed off as I wasn't impressed all I thought was what a couple off old tossers but the pj fella was ok . Bob and van were so up there own arses no wonder music snobs love them. Mr gaz. |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I'm a music snob. There are some types of music I like others I dont, as said, that is a matter of taste.
However there is good, bad and frankly, disgusting formulaic music in every genre (how I hate that pretentious word) and I despise mediocrity and plagiarism. Sad fact is most "pop" music is turned out to a formula...
Set tempo at a multiple of 60 to 65 BPM so it is in sync with the resting heartbeat of an average young healthy human...60 to 65 for ballads, 120 to 130 for upbeat numbers and 180 to 189 for hardcore dance/rock/grunge. Then use a simple 3/4 4/4 beat with a simple repeating major or minor 3 cord progression. No need to be a competent musician no need to have a good voice computers can correct all mistakes.
I can fully understand how anyone who understands talent would say that a poet like Dylan wipes the floor with the regurgitated pop pap turned out by ABBA. However I also understand how someone who is musically uneducated would consider that ABBA's "Janet and John" outpourings would be superior to anything that requires a medico of musical literacy.
Hey Ho...
Musical snob here...
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Lol
It's a bit sad to think,you would need a musical education,before deciding what music to like.
Rather than being musically instinctive enough to know,when you hear it.
Have you ever just heard a song,and thought,hey that's good.
She loves you,yeah!yeah!!yeah!!!.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the rave scene if it got played commercially, even if it was a great tune on the underground scene, some people just slated it , even thoughv2 weeks before they were loving it
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm a music snob. There are some types of music I like others I dont, as said, that is a matter of taste.
However there is good, bad and frankly, disgusting formulaic music in every genre (how I hate that pretentious word) and I despise mediocrity and plagiarism. Sad fact is most "pop" music is turned out to a formula...
Set tempo at a multiple of 60 to 65 BPM so it is in sync with the resting heartbeat of an average young healthy human...60 to 65 for ballads, 120 to 130 for upbeat numbers and 180 to 189 for hardcore dance/rock/grunge. Then use a simple 3/4 4/4 beat with a simple repeating major or minor 3 cord progression. No need to be a competent musician no need to have a good voice computers can correct all mistakes.
I can fully understand how anyone who understands talent would say that a poet like Dylan wipes the floor with the regurgitated pop pap turned out by ABBA. However I also understand how someone who is musically uneducated would consider that ABBA's "Janet and John" outpourings would be superior to anything that requires a medico of musical literacy.
Hey Ho...
Musical snob here...
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And of course Bob Dylan singing Froggy Went a Courting is just such effing genius isn't it. He sticks to the same formulas as other musicians do. It's pretty widespread in the western hemisphere. He isn't a genius, he's a musician. Seasick Steve has a better voice, better tunes and plays better guitar despite his missing strings. Dylanites suffer from The Emperors New Clothes Syndrome. |
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Lol
It's a bit sad to think,you would need a musical education,before deciding what music to like.
Rather than being musically instinctive enough to know,when you hear it.
Have you ever just heard a song,and thought,hey that's good.
She loves you,yeah!yeah!!yeah!!!.
;-)"
Of course your absolutely right...
Just the same as its a bit sad that anyone would think you need some medical knowledge to render first aid or to be able to read and understand what your reading to appreciate literature...
Those pictures are really bright, must be good...
BTW. The Beatles were really good because they were original however Oasis were crap because all they did was plagiarizer the Beatles.
Keep banging those drums and jumping round and you'll get better (the man in the feathers says so)!  |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
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Lol
It's a bit sad to think,you would need a musical education,before deciding what music to like.
Rather than being musically instinctive enough to know,when you hear it.
Have you ever just heard a song,and thought,hey that's good.
She loves you,yeah!yeah!!yeah!!!.
;-)Of course your absolutely right...
Just the same as its a bit sad that anyone would think you need some medical knowledge to render first aid or to be able to read and understand what your reading to appreciate literature...
Those pictures are really bright, must be good...
BTW. The Beatles were really good because they were original however Oasis were crap because all they did was plagiarizer the Beatles.
Keep banging those drums and jumping round and you'll get better (the man in the feathers says so)! "
Medical knowledge is all learnt.
Musical preference,should be all instinct.
Outwith the musical snob.
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
Masked and Distant |
I have a very eclectic taste in music.
Abba, Queen, The Doors, P!nk, Classical, Brass Bands.
If you can walk away from hearing a tune / song for the first time and whistle it, its a good piece of music.
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"I have a very eclectic taste in music.
Abba, Queen, The Doors, P!nk, Classical, Brass Bands.
If you can walk away from hearing a tune / song for the first time and whistle it, its a good piece of music.
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So do I, as I said in my first post there is good and bad everywhere. Some of the things I like are real bubblegum music. They have no merit other than a clever or not so clever hook. Just the sort of thing that you call good music. I just dont think bubblegum music should be allowed to supplant real musical genius as it is.
But then I am proud to be a musical snob and find it amusing that when I put on quality music most people half listen for a couple of minutes and then tell me its boring.
I then break out the 1 hit wonders and cheese and they tell me its so much better! |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I have a very eclectic taste in music.
Abba, Queen, The Doors, P!nk, Classical, Brass Bands.
If you can walk away from hearing a tune / song for the first time and whistle it, its a good piece of music.
So do I, as I said in my first post there is good and bad everywhere. Some of the things I like are real bubblegum music. They have no merit other than a clever or not so clever hook. Just the sort of thing that you call good music. I just dont think bubblegum music should be allowed to supplant real musical genius as it is.
But then I am proud to be a musical snob and find it amusing that when I put on quality music most people half listen for a couple of minutes and then tell me its boring.
I then break out the 1 hit wonders and cheese and they tell me its so much better! "
Your gonna break those pedals,if you back pedal any faster.
I'm just saying,
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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Yes I've encountered music snobs. I let them get on with it. I, unapologetically, like what I like.
My music collection covers a lot of genres but there's some formulaic rubbish in there. However, it's formulaic rubbish I like and I'm fine with that. |
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Just appreciate the fact you are not deaf!! You would appreciate any piece of music/ sound if that was the case!
You have personal choice in EVERYTHING! The best thing about it is that it is your choice and is yours to do with as you please. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't think I've ever met a music snob. I have met a lot of people with a combination of shit taste and little knowledge but I usually find laughing in their face puts them in their place... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Have you ever come across music snobs?
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Everyone is by your definition of "music snob".
Everyone has their own interpretation of what's shit and what isn't ...which is going/can/will differ from somebody else's interpretation. |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
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Have you ever come across music snobs?
Everyone is by your definition of "music snob".
Everyone has their own interpretation of what's shit and what isn't ...which is going/can/will differ from somebody else's interpretation."
I'm not seeing that at all greedy.
you must have misread the op.
music snob,is an elitest,who does not accept,and derides others,if their musical taste differs from theirs.
We may indeed all have different tastes in music,but only the music snob feels superior,due to theirs.
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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Have you ever come across music snobs?
Everyone is by your definition of "music snob".
Everyone has their own interpretation of what's shit and what isn't ...which is going/can/will differ from somebody else's interpretation."
A music snob is someone who listens to your music and then tells you in excruciating detail why they think its shit. Having a different taste in music is not snobbery. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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BTW. The Beatles were really good because they were original however Oasis were crap because all they did was plagiarizer the Beatles
The beatles were original ?..have they reformed the group then because they certainly weren't original the first time round,They got recognized "Famous" for playing and dressing in the American way and it wasnt until later that they developed their own style |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I will listen to most things at least once. love classical through to modern dance and trance music. even write my own tracks now and then.
But i do like some stuff that others hate, yello as an example.
Of course the death metal in our warehouse is a bit much sometimes, lol.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ya it seems I misread the OP.
But case in point..
Anyone who hates Oasis is a dick! 
I love Oasis, but they do sound a lot like the Beatles. "
Oh leave it out!!! 
How does "Rock N Roll Star" "Bring it on Down" "Up in The Sky" "Cigarettes and Alcohol" "Super Sonic" "Morning Glory" "Acquiesce"
Sound like the Beatles?...
You're gonna drag the snob out of me. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Ya it seems I misread the OP.
But case in point..
Anyone who hates Oasis is a dick!
I love Oasis, but they do sound a lot like the Beatles.
Oh leave it out!!!
How does "Rock N Roll Star" "Bring it on Down" "Up in The Sky" "Cigarettes and Alcohol" "Super Sonic" "Morning Glory" "Acquiesce"
Sound like the Beatles?...
You're gonna drag the snob out of me. "
Mwahahahahaaaa |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
Yes. My brother has very strong _iews on music. If it is obscure he will like it. Then when they hit the big time and other people start liking them, he moves on to another obscure band. He also plays the Viola. I'm not sure if there is a link.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You tend to have strong _iews on anything you take a strong interest in. The importance in anything is to be relevant and appreciate the beliefs of others so long as theirs don't contradict fact.
The thing about music is that it's a very personal artform that appeals to peoples' feelings. So snobbery might not come into it unless you're into one musical form such as opera and refuse to accept that anything else exists. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
I don't see anything snobbish about preferring music made by someone who can sing and/ or play an instrument and maybe even read those black dot things over someone who has a daft haircut and an agent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm hardly even a music fan...I tend to think music snobs are pretentious twats
If they were that concerned about the musical 'quality' then maybe they should actually listen to classical and opera |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Snobs in every form are out there, from music snobs to cycling snobs you can't get away from them.
Tell them they are both wrong Till Lindemann is the best song writer going. LoL |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm hardly even a music fan...I tend to think music snobs are pretentious twats
If they were that concerned about the musical 'quality' then maybe they should actually listen to classical and opera"
Yes, and everybody should try to find at least one song of ever genre to appreciate, but music isn't exactly endangered is it lol |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm hardly even a music fan...I tend to think music snobs are pretentious twats
If they were that concerned about the musical 'quality' then maybe they should actually listen to classical and opera"
I do |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I don't see anything snobbish about preferring music made by someone who can sing and/ or play an instrument and maybe even read those black dot things over someone who has a daft haircut and an agent."
It's not so much the kind of music they like.
It's more their superiority complex,and the derision of others musical taste,if it differs from theirs.
Some may say,pretentious twats,
I wouldn't be so bold.
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"I'm hardly even a music fan...I tend to think music snobs are pretentious twats
If they were that concerned about the musical 'quality' then maybe they should actually listen to classical and opera
I do "
So do I!
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
(She/ her) in Sensualityland |
I love opera! I love classical music! I also love rock, reggae, hip hop.....!
I love Chagall! I love Picasso!
I also love Rembrandt and van Gough!
I love fillet steak! I love smoked salmon!
I also love beef stew!
Long live diversity!
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I love opera! I love classical music! I also love rock, reggae, hip hop.....!
I love Chagall! I love Picasso!
I also love Rembrandt and van Gough!
I love fillet steak! I love smoked salmon!
I also love beef stew!
Long live diversity!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I love opera! I love classical music! I also love rock, reggae, hip hop.....!
I love Chagall! I love Picasso!
I also love Rembrandt and van Gough!
I love fillet steak! I love smoked salmon!
I also love beef stew!
Long live diversity!
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I love Beef stew's new song, 'Are you Strogenoff' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Snobs in every form are out there, from music snobs to cycling snobs you can't get away from them.
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Yeah but let's be honest if it's not got campag on it, it's not a proper bike...
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