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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I know a very high percentage of jobs these days are considered to be "unsafe", but I was wondering if people could list jobs that have these traits?
1. When you are off sick/taking a holiday you still get paid.
2. You get some form of contract
3. Full time positions do exist
Don't know if its my bad timing, but people tend to quit their job these days and walk into another one. Yet when I look there isn't anything  |
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local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds. |
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds. "
Retailers and McDonald's don't really give out part time hours. Let alone full time. |
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"Yep and mine, but I have worked at the same place for fifteen years, i'm very lucky
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I work at a university in professional services, eh not that profession cheeky!
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds.
Retailers and McDonald's don't really give out part time hours. Let alone full time. "
I see, but did you find my other suggestions useful, I'm trying to help! |
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is there any point in us posting to try and help you as all you ever do is come up with excuses as to why the suggestions dont work.
I had a job in the private sector that offered all sorts of hours, full time and part time, term time and zero hours, it paid sick pay and holiday pay. I believe a lot of companies nowadays have new contracts that dont pay sick pay, you just claim SSP.
I currently work for a temp agency who dont pay sick pay but they do pay holiday pay. all of them have to allow you to accrue holiday hours now, before they used to lump holiday pay in with your hourly rate.
i will soon be working for the public sector directly which pays holiday and sick and has a pension scheme and works on flexi-time.
so yes, there are jobs out there with benefits packages as you describe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I get disrectionary sick pay (ie as long as we don't think you're taking the mick!)
My mum works for the NHS and is constantly bemoaning the amount of staff off sick, plus if they get sick whilst on leave your leave is reclassified as sickness not leave, so you don't lose holiday if you're ill! No wonder so many are off frequently!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds.
Retailers and McDonald's don't really give out part time hours. Let alone full time.
I see, but did you find my other suggestions useful, I'm trying to help!"
Looking at NHS as we speak  . Teaching not qualified enough. So basically any government related job then? Thought so I haven't took a day off sick in my life. So waiting a year won't bother me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm lucky I have all three, Danny on the other hand had an infamous 0 hours contract... And yes... Letter sorry no hours for you anymore... I hate these supposed contracts their workers bend over backwards to accommodate in fear of loosing their jobs... And then get finished up anyway!! Left up shit creek without the proverbial .... Right before Xmas! Hacks me off!!!  |
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds.
Retailers and McDonald's don't really give out part time hours. Let alone full time.
I see, but did you find my other suggestions useful, I'm trying to help!
Looking at NHS as we speak . Teaching not qualified enough. So basically any government related job then? Thought so I haven't took a day off sick in my life. So waiting a year won't bother me. "
Good, you're very lucky to have never needed to take sick time, long may it continue. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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Opportunities usually depend on education, qualifications and experience. Without knowing more about you it's a bit difficult to suggest what might suit you.
You do seem to have a defeatist attitude which won't help. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds.
Retailers and McDonald's don't really give out part time hours. Let alone full time.
I see, but did you find my other suggestions useful, I'm trying to help!
Looking at NHS as we speak . Teaching not qualified enough. So basically any government related job then? Thought so I haven't took a day off sick in my life. So waiting a year won't bother me.
Good, you're very lucky to have never needed to take sick time, long may it continue."
Call it "old school", stupid, but I am never ill and on the off chance if I am, I'll soldier on until my shift is over. Then I just relax all day in the house then. |
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"Civil service have a lot of jobs going on their website but be prepared to move. "
and to wait aaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss to hear anything - or maybe thats just my place lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I get disrectionary sick pay (ie as long as we don't think you're taking the mick!)
My mum works for the NHS and is constantly bemoaning the amount of staff off sick, plus if they get sick whilst on leave your leave is reclassified as sickness not leave, so you don't lose holiday if you're ill! No wonder so many are off frequently!
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I work for the nhs yes we get paid sick leave... I actually drag myself to work if im ill I feel extremely guilty if I leave my colleagues to bare the brunt... Unfortunately it's not always the case with some... But you can't tar all with the same brush. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I had a job in the private sector that offered all sorts of hours, full time and part time, term time and zero hours, it paid sick pay and holiday pay. I believe a lot of companies nowadays have new contracts that dont pay sick pay, you just claim SSP.
I currently work for a temp agency who dont pay sick pay but they do pay holiday pay. all of them have to allow you to accrue holiday hours now, before they used to lump holiday pay in with your hourly rate.
i will soon be working for the public sector directly which pays holiday and sick and has a pension scheme and works on flexi-time.
so yes, there are jobs out there with benefits packages as you describe."
Sounds like my career i was a sales mgr, special projects mgr, programme manager and then transferred to public sector in charge of transformation.
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Civil service have a lot of jobs going on their website but be prepared to move.
and to wait aaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss to hear anything - or maybe thats just my place lol"
Nope, mine too.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I had a job in the private sector that offered all sorts of hours, full time and part time, term time and zero hours, it paid sick pay and holiday pay. I believe a lot of companies nowadays have new contracts that dont pay sick pay, you just claim SSP.
I currently work for a temp agency who dont pay sick pay but they do pay holiday pay. all of them have to allow you to accrue holiday hours now, before they used to lump holiday pay in with your hourly rate.
i will soon be working for the public sector directly which pays holiday and sick and has a pension scheme and works on flexi-time.
so yes, there are jobs out there with benefits packages as you describe.
Sounds like my career i was a sales mgr, special projects mgr, programme manager and then transferred to public sector in charge of transformation.
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Jobs that don't require experience or a lot of qualifications I want though. Trying to be a realist see. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I get disrectionary sick pay (ie as long as we don't think you're taking the mick!)
My mum works for the NHS and is constantly bemoaning the amount of staff off sick, plus if they get sick whilst on leave your leave is reclassified as sickness not leave, so you don't lose holiday if you're ill! No wonder so many are off frequently!
I work for the nhs yes we get paid sick leave... I actually drag myself to work if im ill I feel extremely guilty if I leave my colleagues to bare the brunt... Unfortunately it's not always the case with some... But you can't tar all with the same brush. "
Agreed you can't all with the same brush but from what I'm told there is a list of 'usual suspects' who you can gurantee will play the system as and when they can. |
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"I get disrectionary sick pay (ie as long as we don't think you're taking the mick!)
My mum works for the NHS and is constantly bemoaning the amount of staff off sick, plus if they get sick whilst on leave your leave is reclassified as sickness not leave, so you don't lose holiday if you're ill! No wonder so many are off frequently!
I work for the nhs yes we get paid sick leave... I actually drag myself to work if im ill I feel extremely guilty if I leave my colleagues to bare the brunt... Unfortunately it's not always the case with some... But you can't tar all with the same brush.
Agreed you can't all with the same brush but from what I'm told there is a list of 'usual suspects' who you can gurantee will play the system as and when they can."
there are but in my job they are spotted and monitored. No one I work with actually takes sick time unless they really need it and to be honest I don't want someone with enteritis 9for instance) near me and I'd sooner they did stay at home. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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As a rule it's skilled workers that get the most benefits, simply a matter of value to the employer means they have to give better contracts to retain the worker. Other than that as said big companies, government, education are good employers. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"As a rule it's skilled workers that get the most benefits, simply a matter of value to the employer means they have to give better contracts to retain the worker. Other than that as said big companies, government, education are good employers."
Benefits such as company car, medical insurance, vouchers for things, pension schemes for matter to me at all. Just want a job that still pays when sick or on holiday that's full time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As a rule it's skilled workers that get the most benefits, simply a matter of value to the employer means they have to give better contracts to retain the worker. Other than that as said big companies, government, education are good employers.
Benefits such as company car, medical insurance, vouchers for things, pension schemes for matter to me at all. Just want a job that still pays when sick or on holiday that's full time. "
Very tricky to find this time of year as most companies wont start hiring contact staff until the end of finacial year in April so they know what operating budgets they have.
My company Mastercard has all those you mentioned plus pension and private axa health cover but ive been there for over 5 years now |
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"As a rule it's skilled workers that get the most benefits, simply a matter of value to the employer means they have to give better contracts to retain the worker. Other than that as said big companies, government, education are good employers.
Benefits such as company car, medical insurance, vouchers for things, pension schemes for matter to me at all. Just want a job that still pays when sick or on holiday that's full time.
Very tricky to find this time of year as most companies wont start hiring contact staff until the end of finacial year in April so they know what operating budgets they have.
My company Mastercard has all those you mentioned plus pension and private axa health cover but ive been there for over 5 years now"
So look for a job with MasterCard in April. Like I said health insurance and pension doesn't matter. Its the 3 things I mentioned that's important for now as the other things I can get later on in life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave. Teaching, lecturing some of the big supermarkets, McDonalds.
Retailers and McDonald's don't really give out part time hours. Let alone full time.
I see, but did you find my other suggestions useful, I'm trying to help!
Looking at NHS as we speak . Teaching not qualified enough. So basically any government related job then? Thought so I haven't took a day off sick in my life. So waiting a year won't bother me. "
You don't have to wait a year...but your entitlement to full pay increases the longer you're employed |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The company I work for has:
No sick pay even for industrial injuries.
There is a contract but most people claim to have never seen one.
There are full time positions available but you have to work a 6 month fixed term first. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No sick pay, and I don't get paid if I don't work, however thats 'cos I'm self employed (through choice).
Thankfully I've enough on to do a 7 day week until 2014, although I'm keeping it to 6  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Run your own company. It may sound odd but this affords the most job security that I've ever experienced - you get out what you put in and you can decide on your own benefits. Personally, I find it considerably less stressful having myself as a boss. |
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I work for probation service, not qualified in the formal sense, it was my life skills that got me the job, my OU qualification will just open more doors now I'm here. Good pay, full time albeit shift work, generous holiday and accrued sick pay. Pension also included.
Main problem being is the service is splitting due to privatization, but jobs are more or less safe for at least 2 years. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Run your own company. It may sound odd but this affords the most job security that I've ever experienced - you get out what you put in and you can decide on your own benefits. Personally, I find it considerably less stressful having myself as a boss. "
How do you go about paying tax if you do that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've got all three, I'm a plant mechanic for a big plant hire company. And the lads are a good crack. You'd likely need an NVQ in Plant or Light vehicle to get in, though experience is considered. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Run your own company. It may sound odd but this affords the most job security that I've ever experienced - you get out what you put in and you can decide on your own benefits. Personally, I find it considerably less stressful having myself as a boss.
How do you go about paying tax if you do that? "
I'm confused by that post. Of course you pay tax. Just like everybody else. Pay and dividends are taxed exactly the same as any emoyee would be. Self employment brings options around pay versus pension contributions versus other benefits - car, health cover etc but it does not stop you paying tax!! |
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"Run your own company. It may sound odd but this affords the most job security that I've ever experienced - you get out what you put in and you can decide on your own benefits. Personally, I find it considerably less stressful having myself as a boss.
How do you go about paying tax if you do that?
I'm confused by that post. Of course you pay tax. Just like everybody else. Pay and dividends are taxed exactly the same as any emoyee would be. Self employment brings options around pay versus pension contributions versus other benefits - car, health cover etc but it does not stop you paying tax!!"
I know you pay tax, but how do you go about it. Do you go somewhere and get forms and tell them how much you earn, etc or does someone write to you telling you how much you owe every month once you have established yourself as self employed? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Social services have all those aspects to their employment.
Though my mate joined ocado last year and is now being re trained as an engineer at 20 grand a year and she is just 21 .
Places like that have some good prospects and re train too |
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"local government jobs, national health service are two I can think of although you need to be in both for a year before you can have paid sick leave."
Even local govt employers are trying to get out of keeping their end of the bargain with contracts and sick pay these days.
It appears that if you fall sick, whether covered by a sicknote, are actually an in-patient at hospital or whatever, employers are now saying that if you are unable to attend work, then you are failing to fulfill your contractual obligations, ie, actually doing the job you are being paid to do. So the employer can legally terminate your contract on those grounds and get away with it.
I understand that there is some system in place whereby you can appeal the decision in extreme circumstances, ie, cancer, heart attacks, etc, but even these are not always successful. |
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over a year ago
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"Run your own company. It may sound odd but this affords the most job security that I've ever experienced - you get out what you put in and you can decide on your own benefits. Personally, I find it considerably less stressful having myself as a boss.
How do you go about paying tax if you do that?
I'm confused by that post. Of course you pay tax. Just like everybody else. Pay and dividends are taxed exactly the same as any emoyee would be. Self employment brings options around pay versus pension contributions versus other benefits - car, health cover etc but it does not stop you paying tax!!
I know you pay tax, but how do you go about it. Do you go somewhere and get forms and tell them how much you earn, etc or does someone write to you telling you how much you owe every month once you have established yourself as self employed? "
You hire an accountant or go look up the information from the HRMC site.
I have all three plus a pension, company car blah blah.
It didn't happen overnight, lots of moving locations for jobs, living in dodgy flats, lots and lots of self study. Oh and more self study |
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I work for the good old NHS, have been for over 20 years. I get 8 weeks a year leave, a bloody good pension and sick pay. If I was off sick for a year (hopefully not!), I would get paid 6 months at full pay and 6 months at half pay. |
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