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Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car
6 months pregnant
Paramedic " this your first child"?
Woman "no 6th"
Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"
Woman "all in care "
Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it
Should be sterilised by law !!! |
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"Women don't get pregnant on their own.
It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul."
She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant
1 child in care ... Warning
2 .... Sterilised !
Simple |
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over a year ago
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when i had my first a Lady kept falling asleep in the bed Opposite which of course is easily done after giving birth. well she almost Dropped the Baby off the bed a few Times and i was getting so worried.however. the Baby was Taken away as had all her Other ten children. she had been taking Heroin in the toilets on post Natal ward. Was so upsetting. really was. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd rather live in a society that takes someone's 6th child in to care than a society that thinks sterilising people is perfectly acceptable and justifiable. |
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"Women don't get pregnant on their own.
It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.
She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant
1 child in care ... Warning
2 .... Sterilised !
Simple"
Its a bit harsh she might have had issues a bad partner or something else in the past and over it now. |
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"Women don't get pregnant on their own.
It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.
She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant
1 child in care ... Warning
2 .... Sterilised !
Simple"
Now where has the idea been trialled before, some time in the 1930's I think. Think it was a European country but name escapes me......no wait it was Germany  |
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"Women don't get pregnant on their own.
It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.
She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant
1 child in care ... Warning
2 .... Sterilised !
Simple"
Sterilised???
For fucks sake
Who are the police to play god?
Kind of ideas from 1939 achtung!!! |
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"Women don't get pregnant on their own.
It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.
She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant
1 child in care ... Warning
2 .... Sterilised !
Simple
Sterilised???
For fucks sake
Who are the police to play god?
Kind of ideas from 1939 achtung!!! "
I think your referring to something totally different
If you only knew the damage that being in care does to a person you would rethink
Fuck the mothers rights .. She's getting a chance 2 chances in fact . And in this low life's case 6 chances
She's swanning around on benefits in a stolen car whilst her children suffer
Not knowing why they can't be with mum
Anybody can have a tough time
Drugs and alcohol dependency
Mental health problems , domestic violence .. So yes some children will unfortunately need to become likes after .. But why should we as a society allow women to create babies when they can't take care of them ?
You get a pet dog or cat and get caught treating it cruelly ... You can get a lifetime ban from having animals
Yet you treat children like they are nothing and what happens? Oh it's ok we as a society will look after them at an average cost of £200 ,000 per year
So that women on tv is costing the taxpayer over a million pound a year and you think that's ok?
More than the finance is the cost to that poor child
Despite best efforts by la's looked after children are more likely to end up in custody, more likely to fail exams , more likely to become themselves single parents
So for you who are slating the comment on sterilisation
Instead of chatting nonsense about Germany and 1930
Come back to the modern day and real world and offer a appropriate solution !!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would hardly say Germany and 1930 was nonsense.But saying that yes some people do need help. But you can't stop free will. Were do you stop? Who chooses who can and carnt have children?  |
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"I would hardly say Germany and 1930 was nonsense.But saying that yes some people do need help. But you can't stop free will. Were do you stop? Who chooses who can and carnt have children? "
Nonsense in relation to this argument . I think it's easy . If the rules/ laws are in place we all know them . If you have more than 2 children taken off you then you should be prevented from having more children .
Whether that's through sterilisation or some other form of birth control
What I'm saying is most of the young people I know in care have several brothers and sisters
It's heartbreaking for them
Can't understand why we are so sympathetic towards these people and allow children to be suffering
Take a look at Michael gove's speech today about child protection
He's spot on what he is saying ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I agree with you no child should suffer and I also agree there some people who are a complete waste of skin that shouldnt be allowed to breath let alone breed.but unfortunatley it would count as marshal law what you want to do. |
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"I agree with you no child should suffer and I also agree there some people who are a complete waste of skin that shouldnt be allowed to breath let alone breed.but unfortunatley it would count as marshal law what you want to do."
Sorry but I don't agree. Have another look at the definition for martial law .
What I do agree on is it does seem a tad extreme
But so what ? What's the alternative? We can't keep burying our heads in the sand just because there's no other reasonable answer
Anyone got one? |
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I totally agree with the op, think its not right that people should be allowed to carry on producing kids for them to end up in care, where the child feels unloved and unwanted n like something Is wrong with them, if youve got 6 kids and they're all in care you know the chances are that if you have anymore they will end up in care too. |
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"If you like the idea of state funded sterilisation,I'm sure n Korea will accept you.
Sterilising against will ,will never happen and rightly so.
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So what's the answer? And why is the thought of sterilising someone who has had 6 kids all in care so wrong?
Lots of criticism but no sign of any other solutions offered! |
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"Why...?
Why what?
Why should the law sterilise them...?
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Because in the long run it costs every tax payer a lot of money. Add to that the trauma of the unwanted children, who all end up in care and because it takes so long for adoption to take place the children are usually quite troubled themselves. This then gives a knock on affect that when they grow up and have kids themselves they usually have very little parenting skills (because of their bad start in life) and so the circle continues!!!
Easy saying it's the womans Human Rights, but what about the Human Rights of all these unwanted little children? |
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"Why...?
Why what?
Why should the law sterilise them...?
Because in the long run it costs every tax payer a lot of money. Add to that the trauma of the unwanted children, who all end up in care and because it takes so long for adoption to take place the children are usually quite troubled themselves. This then gives a knock on affect that when they grow up and have kids themselves they usually have very little parenting skills (because of their bad start in life) and so the circle continues!!!
Easy saying it's the womans Human Rights, but what about the Human Rights of all these unwanted little children?"
At last !!! Well said ! |
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Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car
6 months pregnant
Paramedic " this your first child"?
Woman "no 6th"
Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"
Woman "all in care "
Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it
Should be sterilised by law !!! "
I'll vote for you if you ever run for PM  |
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Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car
6 months pregnant
Paramedic " this your first child"?
Woman "no 6th"
Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"
Woman "all in care "
Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it
Should be sterilised by law !!!
I'll vote for you if you ever run for PM "
Yes I agree people can be banned from having dogs but one can breed as many feral children as one likes. At some point the cycle of breeding for benefits or through total irresponsibility needs to be broken. I can accept one mistake but 6 !!!!.
Care is not an ideal place to bring up children!!!!
Wait till next year when this country is a wash with thousands of Roma and their children living wild breeding for benefits. No wonder this country us skint !!!!! |
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Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car
6 months pregnant
Paramedic " this your first child"?
Woman "no 6th"
Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"
Woman "all in care "
Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it
Should be sterilised by law !!!
I'll vote for you if you ever run for PM
Yes I agree people can be banned from having dogs but one can breed as many feral children as one likes. At some point the cycle of breeding for benefits or through total irresponsibility needs to be broken. I can accept one mistake but 6 !!!!.
Care is not an ideal place to bring up children!!!!
Wait till next year when this country is a wash with thousands of Roma and their children living wild breeding for benefits. No wonder this country us skint !!!!!"
True . Nigel farage did make the same point on last Thursdays question time
A point that seemed reasonable but he was shouted down by those with their heads in the clouds! |
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Maybe we should adopt the way Japan deal with it, they are only allowed two Children per family now.
But then that would mean that everyone would have the perfect family and how bloody boring that would be.
My father was one of 12 and my mother was one of 10 but then rules were strict amongst families then unlike now because they have taken away our parental rights to tell our children off the way they should be.
It's heart breaking when you see children being taken away from parents but really there is nothing we can do but stand back and watch it happen because it is all about peoples rights so basically it's a case of If you take my baby away i will have another and another. |
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"What's the alternative? We can't keep burying our heads in the sand just because there's no other reasonable answer
Anyone got one? "
Don't know if it's a reasonable answer or not... but what about contraceptive implant under license, can be removed / not refreshed when / if that person changes life and could be a good parent. Sterilisation is a life sentence and does not allow for change.
Those that are taken into care early are the winners in these situations, it's the ones who don't get found and are neglected or worse where I would feel the need to carry out some sort of enforcement. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.
We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain). |
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"If you like the idea of state funded sterilisation,I'm sure n Korea will accept you.
Sterilising against will ,will never happen and rightly so.
So what's the answer? And why is the thought of sterilising someone who has had 6 kids all in care so wrong?
Lots of criticism but no sign of any other
solutions offered!"
I think there are more qualified people out there who can advise on solution. Forced sterilisation was undertaken by Nazi Germany, are you seriously advocating we go down that road? Where do we go next? Sterilisation of those with hereditary diseases? The mentally ill? Wrong on so many levels. |
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You know Britain, America and most of the western world had Eugenics programs just like the nazis, many of then continuing long after the war unlike Germanys.
It not a case of us starting down that road we already went down it, fortunately we turned around and came back.
You could argue that the nazis did the a good turn because of the absolute horror and revulsion they inspired something which was commonly considered a good idea became barbaric because of the association with them, even though they weren't the first to do it |
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"I totally agree with the op, think its not right that people should be allowed to carry on producing kids for them to end up in care, where the child feels unloved and unwanted n like something Is wrong with them, if youve got 6 kids and they're all in care you know the chances are that if you have anymore they will end up in care too. "
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"Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.
We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain)."
You do oftentalk some nonsense
I'm not advocating for a blanket sterilisation of women
My argument is there is a massive problem and it needs addressing
To often we sit back and shake our heads at stuff like this but nobody has the balls to offer a solution
We as a society have multi agency working which would now make things like I suggest possible
I.e a woman has a child ... Whatever reason the child becomes looked after . Judge the case on its merits and evidence
She has another child that is again taken into care ... Again lets look at what is going on - multi agency working to assess the needs of the mum .
She has another child then I'm sorry . We as a society have a responsibility . And that responsibility shouldn't be turning a blind eye and shrugging our shoulders saying ah well there's nowt we can do
Bullshit there's a lot we can do .
In order that the woman can get in with life she will need support to gain education training or employment or failing that she will be in receipt of benefits
She should firstly be convinced that either long term contraception or sterilisation is needed . Educate her as to why . She can make an informed choice
If along the way agencies support her to make the right decisions then this will be worth it financially for the tax payer and for te lives of children who would have ended up in the care system .
If by her choice she declines to accept that what she is doing is wrong then we have a judicial system that can judge each case on the merits and act accordingly !
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.
We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain).
You do oftentalk some nonsense
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Anyone, well almost anyone, would think I was doing it on purpose  |
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"Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.
We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain).
You do oftentalk some nonsense
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Anyone, well almost anyone, would think I was doing it on purpose "
Onny!!! a Troll!!! I would never have believed it  |
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