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"get the paras on the streets ,,, soon be safe for grannies then " Like in Ireland, voilence would only breed voilence. | |||
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"Havn't seen it, but in all honesty I say "Bring back maggies cops!" Back in the 80s cops would give you such a kicking, you really would think twice about geting caught.. Sadly we now live in a nanny state, cops are almost powerless "stop or i'll umm shout stop" if they do anything they are off the streat filling in paperwork for rest of shift.. No wonder the kids are running riot, they know the police acan't punish them and young offenders prisson is like butlins (I speak from experience) the old Borstals are gone, replaced by toilets and tv in cell.." Trouble is what about the guy who was walking away.. then got clobbered.. Theres No Honour in that in my eyes. He died remember.. Yeah things need sorting.. but it starts at home.. the parents, not the police or the prisons. By the time it gets to that stage its too late, the damage is done.. Make parents responsible.. and get the power back to those in charge of the kids! | |||
"I agree with you sexoholics. The local yobs where I like their parents couldn't care less. If the took responsability for their children, and there weren't laws to prevent parents and teachers etc from bringing up kids then things would be a lot better. Xxx " Yep.. x | |||
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"i would take a beating from the coppers if i cn touch ur boobies lol" Only if ya shave ya hedge first... xx | |||
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"The trouble now is.. every public event there will be the nerds out to goad the police into a reaction and the police ever more fearful of losing there jobs or worse! Catch 22 if ever.. Lets not forget 99% do a damn fine job in shitty circumstances.. Who'd want their jobs if honest. Then its the same arses who call them when next doors cat shi** on the lawn..." I agree they do a job that is not nice ...but they are highly trained ,paid well and have a great pension and job security and no one holds a gun to there head to do it . I have 2 members of my family on the force and am not anti police ..but to me the police can only work with the consent,goodwill and cooperation of the people. With the civilianisation of the force for efficiency ,the only time anyone comes into contact with an actual copper is when there is trouble or a stressful situation. I have no doubt its more efficient than ever ..but for me has lost contact with the people it needs on side to operate. | |||
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"Am I not wrong in thinking the police are there to save life and limb amongst other things. Part of that responsibility means they need to give instruction to protesters to mantain the safety of others, if they are peaceful protesters then those instructions should be carried out. To stand in the face of a police officer and abuse him for doing his job is totally out of order. Police officers will always give an instruction and reafirm that instruction several times before laying hands on or using batons or CS spray. I have no sympathy for people who then cry to the press when force as to be used. " As a top Cop has said on sky news, there can be no justification in a violent response to verbal abuse,It is a criminal offence What if her question was "can i go and get my kids from school or any idea how long we care going to be kept here ?" for which she got a backhander.the good guys are not above the law | |||
"Shocking attitude. I agree the pc brigade have went too far but you are suggesting a state where the police can give out whatever they please and no comebacks. And as for Maggie a lot of young men are lying in their graves for her political gains she was no angel and hell will have plenty to stoke the fires when that bitch dies." Yeah i agree the good old 80s where ..."there is no such thing as society..." and policemen waved there wage packets and laughed at legitimately striking miners who went hungry. Still at leat the music was good ...Ghost Town .... | |||
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"Wonder if some people would think the same way if it were a member of their family that was walking home minding there own business, when some jumped up policeman decides to take it out on anyone just to show they mean business, what you have to laugh at when it comes to police brutality is they always seem to go for the weakest yet run from the strongest." Allways found it took a hell of alot to get the police to act violently and thats based on how offten I ended up in a cell as a youngster.. Police are like anyone else show them respect and they return it.. | |||
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"Wonder if some people would think the same way if it were a member of their family that was walking home minding there own business, when some jumped up policeman decides to take it out on anyone just to show they mean business, what you have to laugh at when it comes to police brutality is they always seem to go for the weakest yet run from the strongest. Allways found it took a hell of alot to get the police to act violently and thats based on how offten I ended up in a cell as a youngster.. Police are like anyone else show them respect and they return it.." Same here,I always got stopped walking home late night/early morning,hands on the roof of the car,feet appart,the old stop and search routine.Usualy a bit of D.I Hunt style pushing about if you complained too loudly. Its a bloody shame they don't do it these days. I watch that Night Cops fly on the wall show on T.V.The patience of those cops amazes me,(unless its because of the cameras,lol).I know if I was a cop and got one iota of the shit they get from those arseholes and yobs,I'd be kicked off the force in a week. XXXX | |||
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" I think the copper was in the wrong, but we don't know what happened. There could have been things going on that wasn't filmed. And the police were under such pressure that day. " We do know what happened the (hopefully soon to be ex) copper belted a woman for no apparant reason. I know people that were there (I am assuming from your location that you weren't so forgive me if I'm wrong), I also know people that work in the city and they have all said the same thing, the mood changed significantly when the police penned protestors in. The policing was deliberately provocative, refusing to let people leave unless they hadtheir photo's taken - why Where is the justification for that? We live in a democracy, I have been filmed by The police and/or what was generally perceived to be MI5 for attending organised and peaceful rallies in the past - again what's that about? Do we not have a right to protest? We are fighting a pointless and illegal war in Iraq and are supposedly doing so to install the democracy and civil rights that so many people in this country seem happy to see eroded. Two weeks on and we are at least hearing that their will be a review and that finally the policeman that hit the man that died is suspended. But in a country where an innocent man can be shot dead running for a bus and nobody is accountable despite a catalogue of errors then you have to be pessimistic towards the outcome. | |||
"Havn't seen it, but in all honesty I say "Bring back maggies cops!" Back in the 80s cops would give you such a kicking, you really would think twice about geting caught.. Sadly we now live in a nanny state, cops are almost powerless "stop or i'll umm shout stop" if they do anything they are off the streat filling in paperwork for rest of shift.. No wonder the kids are running riot, they know the police acan't punish them and young offenders prisson is like butlins (I speak from experience) the old Borstals are gone, replaced by toilets and tv in cell.." Police violence has no place whatsoever in a supposedly civilised society, as somebody else has already said, they are hear to serve and protect. Mindless violence does not fit into that job specification. The police should lead by example - end of. The treatment of the demonstrators was totally at odds with our claim of the nanny state which to me is actually contradicting and not strengthening your argument. As for young offenders, I'm not sure what is so wrong with trying to reform. Let's face it brutalising young offenders doesn't and never has worked. | |||
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"Havn't seen it, but in all honesty I say "Bring back maggies cops!" Back in the 80s cops would give you such a kicking, you really would think twice about geting caught.. Sadly we now live in a nanny state, cops are almost powerless "stop or i'll umm shout stop" if they do anything they are off the streat filling in paperwork for rest of shift.. No wonder the kids are running riot, they know the police acan't punish them and young offenders prisson is like butlins (I speak from experience) the old Borstals are gone, replaced by toilets and tv in cell.. Police violence has no place whatsoever in a supposedly civilised society, as somebody else has already said, they are hear to serve and protect. Mindless violence does not fit into that job specification. The police should lead by example - end of. The treatment of the demonstrators was totally at odds with our claim of the nanny state which to me is actually contradicting and not strengthening your argument. As for young offenders, I'm not sure what is so wrong with trying to reform. Let's face it brutalising young offenders doesn't and never has worked. " A few years back there was a programme on T.V were young perps came face to face with thir victims.One guy had his car stolen by one little darling,who did it habitualy. They fetched the Toerag from a Y.O.I to face the guy who's car he stole.The conversation went something like this. Victim: Will you do it again? Perp: Most probably. V: So being locked up has tought you nothing then? P: Yeah,how to nick 'em easier,they have mechanic classes in there.Its not bad at all. V: So you feel no remorse whatsoever then? P: Eh? V: You'll just carry on doing it and sod your victims? P: Yeah,they're insured! V: What about if you got the Birch instead of Y.O.I? P: What,you mean flogged? V: Yeah,would that stop you? P: Yeah,'course it would but they can't do that can they. I rest my case.The ammount of money it costs to keep these yobs inside and chase them when theyre not could be saved for the price of a bunch of twigs. Pain is a great teacher. XXXX | |||
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"When some shitbag is making his way up my stairs at 3am after breaking in I'm certainly not going to hesitate in taking the 8" kitchen knife I keep upstairs and gutting the little turd with it - I would give it as much thought as wiping my arse after a crap. But I'd be in the wrong wouldn't I?" unfortunately if he was unarmed youd be done, if he lived attempted murder.if he died murder but maybe cut back to manslaughter depending on the circumstances . | |||
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"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate "depends what you call real crime .elucidate ? | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate "How do you know the "armchair warriors" hav'nt been victims or seen real crime? that is a huge assumption | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate "blooming cheek actually... ;( | |||
"Havn't seen it, but in all honesty I say "Bring back maggies cops!" Back in the 80s cops would give you such a kicking, you really would think twice about geting caught.. Sadly we now live in a nanny state, cops are almost powerless "stop or i'll umm shout stop" if they do anything they are off the streat filling in paperwork for rest of shift.. No wonder the kids are running riot, they know the police acan't punish them and young offenders prisson is like butlins (I speak from experience) the old Borstals are gone, replaced by toilets and tv in cell.. Police violence has no place whatsoever in a supposedly civilised society, as somebody else has already said, they are hear to serve and protect. Mindless violence does not fit into that job specification. The police should lead by example - end of. The treatment of the demonstrators was totally at odds with our claim of the nanny state which to me is actually contradicting and not strengthening your argument. As for young offenders, I'm not sure what is so wrong with trying to reform. Let's face it brutalising young offenders doesn't and never has worked. " From personal experience there is no reform in UK prisons... They are nothing more than a training ground perfect for teaching petty offenders how to commit worse crimes and gain contacts they previosly didn't have.. Amount of lads I saw return soon after leaving was anything but rare, infact all it does is breed violence.. I served my time in cardiff, during all the riots kicking of in puclchurch and other prisons, result, one day they split us all up placing 1 welsh and 1 english guy in each cell to see if we kicked off, knowing how pissed off we were at having been banged up 23hrs a day, due to the riots in other prisons (now show me the reform) | |||
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"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;("Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread . | |||
"Havn't seen it, but in all honesty I say "Bring back maggies cops!" Back in the 80s cops would give you such a kicking, you really would think twice about geting caught.. Sadly we now live in a nanny state, cops are almost powerless "stop or i'll umm shout stop" if they do anything they are off the streat filling in paperwork for rest of shift.. No wonder the kids are running riot, they know the police acan't punish them and young offenders prisson is like butlins (I speak from experience) the old Borstals are gone, replaced by toilets and tv in cell.. Police violence has no place whatsoever in a supposedly civilised society, as somebody else has already said, they are hear to serve and protect. Mindless violence does not fit into that job specification. The police should lead by example - end of. The treatment of the demonstrators was totally at odds with our claim of the nanny state which to me is actually contradicting and not strengthening your argument. As for young offenders, I'm not sure what is so wrong with trying to reform. Let's face it brutalising young offenders doesn't and never has worked. From personal experience there is no reform in UK prisons... They are nothing more than a training ground perfect for teaching petty offenders how to commit worse crimes and gain contacts they previosly didn't have.. Amount of lads I saw return soon after leaving was anything but rare, infact all it does is breed violence.. I served my time in cardiff, during all the riots kicking of in puclchurch and other prisons, result, one day they split us all up placing 1 welsh and 1 english guy in each cell to see if we kicked off, knowing how pissed off we were at having been banged up 23hrs a day, due to the riots in other prisons (now show me the reform)" I only visited one once on a inspection visit to do with education and could not wait to get out. As someone who has tasted the front end so as to speak ,what would you do if they put you in charge tomorrow .? | |||
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"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread ."as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;( | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread .
as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;("huh ...he said real crime ....wimp ...lol | |||
"Havn't seen it, but in all honesty I say "Bring back maggies cops!" Back in the 80s cops would give you such a kicking, you really would think twice about geting caught.. Sadly we now live in a nanny state, cops are almost powerless "stop or i'll umm shout stop" if they do anything they are off the streat filling in paperwork for rest of shift.. No wonder the kids are running riot, they know the police acan't punish them and young offenders prisson is like butlins (I speak from experience) the old Borstals are gone, replaced by toilets and tv in cell.. Police violence has no place whatsoever in a supposedly civilised society, as somebody else has already said, they are hear to serve and protect. Mindless violence does not fit into that job specification. The police should lead by example - end of. The treatment of the demonstrators was totally at odds with our claim of the nanny state which to me is actually contradicting and not strengthening your argument. As for young offenders, I'm not sure what is so wrong with trying to reform. Let's face it brutalising young offenders doesn't and never has worked. From personal experience there is no reform in UK prisons... They are nothing more than a training ground perfect for teaching petty offenders how to commit worse crimes and gain contacts they previosly didn't have.. Amount of lads I saw return soon after leaving was anything but rare, infact all it does is breed violence.. I served my time in cardiff, during all the riots kicking of in puclchurch and other prisons, result, one day they split us all up placing 1 welsh and 1 english guy in each cell to see if we kicked off, knowing how pissed off we were at having been banged up 23hrs a day, due to the riots in other prisons (now show me the reform) I only visited one once on a inspection visit to do with education and could not wait to get out. As someone who has tasted the front end so as to speak ,what would you do if they put you in charge tomorrow .?" I would within an instant reinstate the old Borstals for repeat offenders, though would set up a form of Boot Camp for new offenders (alot of new offenders are simply needing some form of disaplin and structure that they are missing at home) I would also add reformed ex offenders into the probation system, removing all these do good, never had a hard day in there lives leather elbowpad wearing social workers.. If I had been sat down on probation, with some big scary ex con, who had turned his life around and could actualy give me advise, instead of some guy who had no bloody clue how a 16yr old lad with no fixed address who couldn't even claim benefits, actualy lived.. I doub't I would have ended up inside.. ps: this is actualy the job i'm looking into traing for now, maybe I can stop some other lad making the same mistakes, I was lucky, I served my time realized I didn't like the tossers I was locked up with, met a beatiful woman, who calmed me down (the day I walked out of jail all I wanted to do was hit anyone who dared say the wrong thing to me, kinda odd as I walked into jail totaly laid back) | |||
 what better person to give advice and set someone on the right tracks than someone who has been there in the first place | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread .
as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;(
huh ...he said real crime ....wimp ...lol"oooh let me cum nurse u... | |||
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"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread .
as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;(
huh ...he said real crime ....wimp ...lol
oooh let me cum nurse u... "yeah come on ...as long as i can do my oooooooooooooh matron in a kenneth williams voice | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread .
as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;(
huh ...he said real crime ....wimp ...lol
oooh let me cum nurse u...
yeah come on ...as long as i can do my oooooooooooooh matron in a kenneth williams voice "ya can do what ya want wen im prodding ya with a huge needle xx | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread .
as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;(
huh ...he said real crime ....wimp ...lol
oooh let me cum nurse u...
yeah come on ...as long as i can do my oooooooooooooh matron in a kenneth williams voice
ya can do what ya want wen im prodding ya with a huge needle xx"errr reckon you got that the wrong way round babe but lets not hijack kittys thread | |||
"yeah i reckon your right on the boot camp thing would work.Its interestin how that 50s army training programme turned the offenders into reformed people by giving them self respect...after seeing that film scum tho ...if that is an accurate portrail of what borstal was like, dont you reckon its a bit like the nick in terms of teaching crims passing on skills etc. or did it put some off but the hardcore nothing can help ?" Thats the problem the hardcore will never reform, i supose thats why american prisons simply add more and more time on for an offence, effectivly keeping them for good. Fear kept alot, of people from returning, even the film scum kept alot of my old friends from even risking an offence :P Here we have this odd here is your 12months, but don't worry your only doing 6, after 12months it cuts to do 2/3rds of your time or 6mths depending on which is longest (parole) basicaly a buffer system allowing a prison governer to falsly extend your sentance (least thats how it worked during my time) Parole is less severe than signing on day at the job centre, simply walk in once a week, sign a form and nod alot to the wierd guy behind his desk :P | |||
"Always amused when the arm chair warriors, never seen or been a victim of a real crime postulate
blooming cheek actually... ;(
Especially as you know nothing of any of the posters in the thread .
as a nurse n A& E for a number ov years i have been subjected to assualts, been taken hostage and had to patch up the dregs ov society, i also nursed a prisoner who held all the nursing staff to ransom cuz we wudnt allow him his goddamn mobile, he eventually was allowed his mobile as it was against his human rights to with hold it ( prison offiers words not mine), his gang turned up and 3 nurses were followed home i was scared shitless, so howd ya like them apples?????????????????? ;("I'm assuming as you mention prison and a hospital that I can guess exactly where you were, and if the person was a memmber of one of the 2 big gangs in that area, taking him to that hospital was always going to put people at risk. Ridiculous, and scary!! But back on track a couple of times when I lived in Brum I had reason to be pretty much staying overnight at Selly Oak Hospital, only place you could get a drink was A and E. Fuck me, that wasn't pleasent late at night and even worse on a weekend - being there for a length of time it was a real eye-opener to just how much of an issue it was. I don't see how people are expected to work in that scenario. | |||
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"I heard on something tonight that since 16th Feb it has been am offence to film or photograph the police. Now i'm not sure if that's right or what the whole story is, but it's a really slap in the face for personal freedom if it's true. " It's true certainly in London. Ridiculously unnecessary anti-terrorist laws now mean that pretty much taking a photo in London could be perceived as a crime. For sometime taking a picture of any building in London is effectively illegal as all of London is viewed as a potential terrorist target. An arist was recently held for several hours for taking pics of a building site he planned to do same paintings of!! | |||
"I heard on something tonight that since 16th Feb it has been am offence to film or photograph the police. Now i'm not sure if that's right or what the whole story is, but it's a really slap in the face for personal freedom if it's true. It's true certainly in London. Ridiculously unnecessary anti-terrorist laws now mean that pretty much taking a photo in London could be perceived as a crime. For sometime taking a picture of any building in London is effectively illegal as all of London is viewed as a potential terrorist target. An arist was recently held for several hours for taking pics of a building site he planned to do same paintings of!! " And I believe trainspotters have also been arrested for the same reasons!!! (I wish there was an edit function on here!) | |||
"I heard on something tonight that since 16th Feb it has been am offence to film or photograph the police. Now i'm not sure if that's right or what the whole story is, but it's a really slap in the face for personal freedom if it's true. It's true certainly in London. Ridiculously unnecessary anti-terrorist laws now mean that pretty much taking a photo in London could be perceived as a crime. For sometime taking a picture of any building in London is effectively illegal as all of London is viewed as a potential terrorist target. An arist was recently held for several hours for taking pics of a building site he planned to do same paintings of!! And I believe trainspotters have also been arrested for the same reasons!!! (I wish there was an edit function on here!)" Trainspotters deserve anything they get, same as morris dancers :P | |||
"I heard on something tonight that since 16th Feb it has been am offence to film or photograph the police. Now i'm not sure if that's right or what the whole story is, but it's a really slap in the face for personal freedom if it's true. It's true certainly in London. Ridiculously unnecessary anti-terrorist laws now mean that pretty much taking a photo in London could be perceived as a crime. For sometime taking a picture of any building in London is effectively illegal as all of London is viewed as a potential terrorist target. An arist was recently held for several hours for taking pics of a building site he planned to do same paintings of!! And I believe trainspotters have also been arrested for the same reasons!!! (I wish there was an edit function on here!)" add that to the 100,000 phonecall monitoring capacity at menwith hill.(Which BT accidently let out the bag) and you have a scary big brother scenario | |||
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"the law has always been shit if u rob a bank and not harm no one but steal money u can get like 18 years if u drink and drive u can get a ban and 5 years maybe money is more important in this world then a life." If money is so important why is it that only the pens in banks are chained to counters? | |||
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"just wondering if anyone had any further views or have modified there views in the light of the second postmortem.Where it was found he died of something other than a heart attack .?? pd" I haven't changed my view of the situation or of the police. The police officer was caught on cctv camera and by ITN news hitting that guy with his baton with alot of force behind it. The post mortem indicates he died of internal bleeding around the area of his abdomen which he fell upon after being violently pushed to the ground. The facist police officer has been questioned under caution of manslaughter and i hope he gets sent down and suffers! | |||
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"After all the inquiries & reports are finished into these two incidents hopfully the guilty will be punished... But the real outcome will be seen later when once again the police will have more rules/regulations put on them for dealing with riots/demonstrations & the such like!!! There hands will be tied..senior officers will be more reluctant to police things with a firm hand & the protesters will have a free hand next time they feel the need to demonstrate. " As someone who has been a protestor against various issues for the past 20 years i have seen alot of what actually goes on at these demonstrations. I was glad someone stated that the police will have more regulations/rules placed on them to deal with demonstrations (riots are completely different) and that their hands will be tied while these unruly mobs run amok, fighting and stealing and causing anarchy in the streets. This is because that's the view point of many people and it's a view point that really isn't true. To begin with 99.9% of people within a demonstration are well behaved. Their there because they believe an issue needs attention or want their voice to be heard. Not everyone is well behaved but those people are often dealt with by fellow demonstrators or the police take them away (often after being pointed out by protestors). Some are picked up by the police before a protest gets underway as they are well known trouble makers who turn up to anything just to be a pain in the ass. With any group of people not all are well behaved and arguements ensue, just like on this site! The fact is since the Criminal Justice Bill, and even prior to that the police have been given more and more powers while the general public, which is you and me have had more and more freedoms and liberties taken away. Your personal details and DNA can be kept upon 'criminal' databases even though you haven't done anything wrong...why?, you may well have to carry an ID card very soon and even motorists may well have to buy a small black box soon that will automatically fine you if you go over the speed limit (well thats us all then) and it will track exactly where you go. What with cctv cameras everywhere (the average person is viewed around 300 times a day depending where you are) we are fast becoming a police state. The news that covers protests often conform to the police statements that demonstrators caused trouble but in my vast experience it is the police that instigates the majority of the troubles. Like i stated in a previous comment, where are all the pictures that show people lying in blood after the police beat them, where are the pictures of collapsed pensioners being treated by paramedics as they have been run down by charging police horses, where are the pictures of hysterical children wetting themselves in terror because a fun day out marching was turned into violence by the police? People need to take an interest in political issues before it's too late and protesting itself becomes banned...without a voice and a say in our own lives we are nothing but prisoners to the system. | |||
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"just one point there Gothica ..Europe has overturned the police dna database from Storing dna of non charged non convicted people ..but you have to apply to the chief constable to have them destroyed . Let people know, if you know anyone in this position.A Friend who i Know there kids (11,14) were dna ed after they were taken in for putting nails in a tree while buiding a tree house .criminal damamge ...lol PD" morning lol peanut | |||
