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Marriage and Religion

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

U make vows : I, (name), take you (name), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I asked once why people marry and everyone said for love and commitment, not for religious reasons.

also most married in a registry office where you dont take those vows.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Where does it say, 'don't join fabswingers.com' ??

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

As long as it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form how others choose to live THEIR lives is their business and they certainly don't need to justify anything to me!

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By *londeCazWoman over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I'd guess it's a bit of an addition to their sex life, they may get off on watching each other play or one or both may be bisexual therefore can't get their entire sexual needs from one person. I don't really get the correlation with religion in your thread title, true until fairly recently if you wanted to get married the choice was registry office or church but not everyone who gets married in church is religious, plus nowadays one can write one's own vows and maybe someday someone will say "forsaking all others, apart from when we're at Chams or playing with fellow Fabsters"

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple over a year ago

wirral

If you are a married couple and both swinging, what does it matter?

Cheating though is totally wrong and if you have to cheat to make yourself happy, you should leave as its not fair on your partner, the kids, the whole family

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its so easy to judge ....

My husband cheated on me for year .. shall we judge me on the reasons I stayed even though I knew what he was doing ??

Who are we to judge anyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh and religion has nothing to do whether people cheat on their husbands or wives

Lets not make my blood boil on this one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you are a married couple and both swinging, what does it matter?

Cheating though is totally wrong and if you have to cheat to make yourself happy, you should leave as its not fair on your partner, the kids, the whole family"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

love sex lust..all easily separated , its as simple as that

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

it says Love, most couples I would imagine are not looking to love their meets, bang them yes, befriend maybe...... love NO

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ? "

how is it double standatds? Marriage vows are about stayibg together no matter what. So if swinging doesnt break up the marriage then whats the problem.

its just a shared hobby.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ? "

double standards?...if they are devout and follow every word written in the bible and are swinging , ok, thats double standards.

If they are religious and but recognize the bible cannot fully integrate with modern life, then its up to them and it is not double standards

I dont understand how that cant be understood..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ? "

Ahahahahaha!

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By *obbobeanMan over a year ago

dagenham

You make vows to make each other happy aswel, and if to make each other happy is to BOTH take part in fun and games to help your sex life, I can't see anything wrong with it

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

Ahahahahaha! "

I know

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I didn't cheat but I do sleep with women so Im sure religion will have something to say about that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It is expected and we are trained to find a partner, breed and be happy, most do it, thinking its love, in reality it is need.

It is easier to get married, than not to get married.

Swinging can help a marriage last longer, especially when the marriage is need based, not love based.

No one marries expecting to be unfaithfull and cheat.

But in many cases cheating and commiting adultery helps the marriage last,

You can not fix a broken cup, many try, but it always fails.

Women usually try and keep the marriage going, because they do not want to admit they have made a mistake.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ? "

Are you going to church today?

How many fabbers are going to church today?

At a guess I wouldn't say a huge proportion of fabbers are actually religious.

Getting married doesn't make someone religious.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Religion was invented by the rich to control the poor.

It follows marriage was invented to control and stabilize society, and to produce children to work in the mines, industry and to stay poor, as when your hungry you are weak!

Since the industrial revolution, not so many children are needed , and religion is struggling to maintain control.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Leviticus bans people from having tattoos, cutting their forelocks and wearing mixed fibres.

no polycotton mixes? !

Don't get started on the whole religion bollox- what people do is up to them! People swear on the bible in court and don't believe a bloody word in the book!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Leviticus bans people from having tattoos, cutting their forelocks and wearing mixed fibres.

no polycotton mixes? !

Don't get started on the whole religion bollox- what people do is up to them! People swear on the bible in court and don't believe a bloody word in the book!"

I do miss crimplene, it never needed ironing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who cares?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The OP is simply a wind up merchant. She's constantly making threads to get people riled up.

Move on people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All depends if your swinging for the right reasons?

Many swing as a last ditch effort so save a marriage

How many people have partners and cheat?

We are happily married perverts, we enjoy what we do together, no need to over complicate or seek to find issues, if it's not for you then walk on by

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By *adyA01Woman over a year ago

Wellington

When I got married, I didn't expect to end up on a site like this! But then I didn't join this site until after we had split up.

Have you thought OP if it wasn't for swinging couples, this site and others like it wouldn't exist!

I presume your enjoying the site, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

It seems to me that there are a lot of committed swinging couples on here, who love each other very much, and they also happen to enjoy sex with others and the pleasure it brings them. So what? That is their choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I thought sex outside of marriage was also a sin.

So basically OP to have sex you need to be married. To stay married you have swinging sites.

Job done

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By *ohn_1983Man over a year ago

South of Norwich

!Warning!

Moral police are out in force!

I can only be responsible for my own actions and I am the only one who has to live with them.

Those who wish to preach...I suggest you take a walk.

Those who wish to play...send me a message

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

We're all going to hell in a handcart. Can I have a cushion it'll be a bumpy ride

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

Marriage to god

What's it going to say, you only commit to eachother.

I wouldn't get married again,if anything should happen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As long as it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form how others choose to live THEIR lives is their business and they certainly don't need to justify anything to me!

Was going to comment but I'm just off to do some little green arrow watching first.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread is a load of bollocks. Marriage and religion are not one and the same but two different things. Couples marry for their own reasons,it is not for other people to question why. How many couples got married in a church because it was the fairytale thing to do not because they are religious... We got married in a vineyard and wrote our own vows.we have a great family. But just because our sex life is a little bit out of the ordinary, the OP thinks we shouldn't be married... Like i said what a load of bollocks.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

how is it double standatds? Marriage vows are about stayibg together no matter what. So if swinging doesnt break up the marriage then whats the problem.

its just a shared hobby."

Not all couples are happy with swinging

In some cases one is doing it to make their partner happy "fact"

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It is expected and we are trained to find a partner, breed and be happy, most do it, thinking its love, in reality it is need.

It is easier to get married, than not to get married.

Swinging can help a marriage last longer, especially when the marriage is need based, not love based.

No one marries expecting to be unfaithfull and cheat.

But in many cases cheating and commiting adultery helps the marriage last,

You can not fix a broken cup, many try, but it always fails.

Women usually try and keep the marriage going, because they do not want to admit they have made a mistake."

It is expected and we are trained to find a partner, breed and be happy, most do it, thinking its love, in reality it is need.

U mean self gratification ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The OP is simply a wind up merchant. She's constantly making threads to get people riled up.

Move on people.

Huh

I'm not

I like to read other pples _iews on some subjects

That's what threads r for

If u don't want to have ur say u move on and go on another thread

It's very simple

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"It is expected and we are trained to find a partner, breed and be happy, most do it, thinking its love, in reality it is need.

It is easier to get married, than not to get married.

Swinging can help a marriage last longer, especially when the marriage is need based, not love based.

No one marries expecting to be unfaithfull and cheat.

But in many cases cheating and commiting adultery helps the marriage last,

You can not fix a broken cup, many try, but it always fails.

Women usually try and keep the marriage going, because they do not want to admit they have made a mistake.

It is expected and we are trained to find a partner, breed and be happy, most do it, thinking its love, in reality it is need.

U mean self gratification ?

well yeah, doesn't mean its selfish, society expects us to marry have kids etc, but who knows, maybe society was a bunch of swingers in the 1st place and prostitutes were put in the bible for money making purposes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

how is it double standatds? Marriage vows are about stayibg together no matter what. So if swinging doesnt break up the marriage then whats the problem.

its just a shared hobby.

Not all couples are happy with swinging

In some cases one is doing it to make their partner happy "fact"

that doesnt mean all couples shouldnt swing..

vows are simply just agreeing to stay together forever no matter what. they do not say how a marriage should be conducted to ensure that happens. thats unique to every couple as we are all different.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok, we will be marrying next year after 12 years been together, in a church. In preparation for that I have converted my religion and have confirmed into C of E. Along the way I found I got more out of it than I thought I would.

Whilst we don't go every Sunday we may go once a month. Why shouldn't we? We enjoy our time together but every so often we like to enjoy ourselves and our bodies with other people. That's not going to change after we marry.

Sorry but I don't feel guilty for having found a little comfort in faith. I don't feel bad that we're marrying in church. I'm sure it's going to be a brilliant day that we've been looking forward to for a while. There may even be some swinging friends in attendance.

If anyone has issues with our plans, sorry but those are your issues to deal with and we will be enjoying our special day regardless.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

marriage is about a union of 2 minds, 2 souls and 2 people, sharing in 1 dream, 1 goal and 1 realisation of happiness.

the forsaking all others, means at the expense of each other, not so much at the enjoyment of each other.

you can interpret anything to mean what you want, much like any teachings throughout history.

the only part of marriage which falls short is the thought of one person owning the other.

it should never be like that, although, looking back, maybe if i had been a little more strict with my ex, she wouldnt have done what she did, but you never know.

i treat V in the same relaxed way and trust her impeccably and, touch wood, up til now we have mutual respect and trust and nothing has gone wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

how is it double standatds? Marriage vows are about stayibg together no matter what. So if swinging doesnt break up the marriage then whats the problem.

its just a shared hobby.

Not all couples are happy with swinging

In some cases one is doing it to make their partner happy "fact"

im also sure there are many other hobbys a couple shares where one isnt so happy and is doing it to keep the other happy, if there are problems in their marriage thats for them to resolve.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We are all here for different reasons

Why post yet another to the list of intolerance you have.

Live n let live - you'll be happier for it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"!Warning!

Moral police are out in force!

I can only be responsible for my own actions and I am the only one who has to live with them.

Those who wish to preach...I suggest you take a walk.

Those who wish to play...send me a message

thats a very naive way of looking at things.

you are the only one that needs to live with your actions, only if they have no bearing on another persons life.

if that person is 'committed' to you, on a ground based on mutual trust, and you betray that trust, then you are the last person that will feel the full force of the consequences, as you will have justified them long ago, to yourself, and others in 'the know'.

its always the innocents that feel them the most.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The OP is simply a wind up merchant. She's constantly making threads to get people riled up.

Move on people.

So true

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

how is it double standatds? Marriage vows are about stayibg together no matter what. So if swinging doesnt break up the marriage then whats the problem.

its just a shared hobby.

Not all couples are happy with swinging

In some cases one is doing it to make their partner happy "fact"

I agree with that, we have come across this afew times and its very clear when someones body language belies the words coming out of their mouths

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"!Warning!

Moral police are out in force!

I can only be responsible for my own actions and I am the only one who has to live with them.

Those who wish to preach...I suggest you take a walk.

Those who wish to play...send me a message

The old mora police argument, usually used to define people who's who's moral code is different to your own and therefore obviously wrong or somehow oppressive

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

Why are you asking us if you think we are all trolls?

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

" .......

its just a shared hobby."

The emphasis has to be on shared, or at least known about and accepted honestly.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

Why are you asking us if you think we are all trolls?"

methinks that was a case of pot calling the kettle black

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Religion was invented by the rich to control the poor.

It follows marriage was invented to control and stabilize society, and to produce children to work in the mines, industry and to stay poor, as when your hungry you are weak!

Since the industrial revolution, not so many children are needed , and religion is struggling to maintain control.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

If the actual leaders of the various churches struggle with the main tenets of their faiths, what hope for the rest of us?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

Why are you asking us if you think we are all trolls?

methinks that was a case of pot calling the kettle black

Borderline trolls lol

Don't take everything in my profile to heart

Calm down

just a bit of fun

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"If the actual leaders of the various churches struggle with the main tenets of their faiths, what hope for the rest of us?

exactly its just the gullible and fools that stick with it

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

Why are you asking us if you think we are all trolls?

methinks that was a case of pot calling the kettle black

Borderline trolls lol

Don't take everything in my profile to heart

Calm down

just a bit of fun "

I'm calm, woudn't let something like this rile me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok, we will be marrying next year after 12 years been together, in a church. In preparation for that I have converted my religion and have confirmed into C of E. Along the way I found I got more out of it than I thought I would.

If anyone has issues with our plans, sorry but those are your issues to deal with and we will be enjoying our special day regardless. "

Congratulations.

We have been married twenty years and it's the best thing we ever did.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The difference is that true swinging couples enact their desires in the full knowledge of their partners - with their blessing and understanding. The state of matrimony is irrelevant and the concept of fidelity is one that transcends the mere physical info something far deeper on an emotional level.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to agree with previous comments that marriage is for love and commitment and they come in many forms,

Swinging if a joint experience can be a fantastic shared experience, The times this would go against it is if 1 partner is on here without the others knowledge or consent which for us is an instant acceptance onto the block list

As regards to marriage vows we purposely omitted the "Forsaking all others" As we knew we would probably continue our lifestyle choice

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By *rankygirlWoman over a year ago

Haverfordwest

"Where does it say, 'don't join fabswingers.com' ??"

LOL x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Religion and God have less and less relevance to more and more people in an educated developed society.

What matters to most educated couples is what they promise each other as opposed to what they may have promised some deity.

I used to promise Santa that I'd be a good boy, I've moved past that now.

This thread is the equivalent of trying to hold me accountable to Santa!

The people around me and my responsibility to them is all that counts.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"The difference is that true swinging couples enact their desires in the full knowledge of their partners - with their blessing and understanding. The state of matrimony is irrelevant and the concept of fidelity is one that transcends the mere physical info something far deeper on an emotional level.

Yes.

It was religion that made sex taboo and the requirement to be sure of the bloodline that made it a sin outside of marriage. I'm pretty sure God (whoever she is) made sex pleasurable in order to keep the population going not so that we could gain entry to Heaven by avoiding it.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

What I don't understand is why, if two people get together whilst one or both is married to someone else, they get divorced,marry each other and then can't work out why one or other continues to cheat.

Maybe infidelity is in some people's DNA.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else."

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other"

We got married in Thailand just load of chanting going on etc didn't quite understand it

We are staying TRUE to eachother by fulfilling our fantasies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other"

the actualy vows said to each other in the CofE is

I, (bride’s name), take you, (groom’s name)

to be my wife/husband,

to have and to hold

from this day forward;

for better, for worse,

for richer, for poorer,

in sickness and in health,

to love and to cherish,

till death us do part'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

and exchange of rings you say

With my body I honour you,

all that I am I give to you,

and all that I have I share with you,

within the love of God,

Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not all couples are happy with swinging

In some cases one is doing it to make their partner happy "fact"

That is true, but surely that's a separate topic and is off track?

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By *ndy_mandyCouple over a year ago

Tredegar

Mandy and I are getting married in 2 years but as we are both agnostic we dont have to go through all that religious nonsense, registry office for us

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"................. share with you,

within the love of God,

Father, Son and Holy Spirit. "

Sounds like recipe for a gangbang.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"................. share with you,

within the love of God,

Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Sounds like recipe for a gangbang."

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"................. share with you,

within the love of God,

Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Sounds like recipe for a gangbang."

Maybe that's what it was

Naked women st the temple on the alter

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i have never posted anything but in my _iew its mostly on the person and things can change and so do people...in and out of marriage. We can love for all different reasons and ever meaning to hurt at the time. We all do things in life or have things done to us which make us who we are. Don't judge anyone....we all wish we had the best sex and love in our lives x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

C of S a more straightforward :-

I, Adam, take you, Eve, to be my wife. In the presence of God, and before this congregation I promise and covenant to be a loving, faithful, and loyal husband to you as long as we both shall live.

Of course, there are lots of religions....

And people say words either with no idea they are VOWING to keep them or with no intention of keeping them.

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other"

I was referring to the one the lady quoted in the OP

not sure of the other vows not mentioned.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"..........

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

Religion came up with the 10 Commandments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ? "

being comitted to each other emotionally doesn't mean that you can't enjoy sex with other people, it's honesty and respect that make a relationship.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

being comitted to each other emotionally doesn't mean that you can't enjoy sex with other people, it's honesty and respect that make a relationship. "

And obviously having sex with lots of other pple lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..........

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

Religion came up with the 10 Commandments."

no people came up with the ten commandments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..........

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

Religion came up with the 10 Commandments."

Actually, people did. They chose to ignore a few like, Thou may buy slaves from a neighbouring country, Thou must not sow two crops in the same field, Thou must not shag your best pal if same sex and all that stuff.

Think I'm mixing up religion and religious entities' lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If people are happy with their own morals, as long as they're not hurting other people I don't see how this is anyone else's business.

Why does this bother you OP? What business is it of yours what we do as a couple?

The trouble is with pedestals is the higher they are the further you fall.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"..........

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

Religion came up with the 10 Commandments.

no people came up with the ten commandments."

So all the paid liars in fancy dress, pontificating from the pulpit, have just jumped on a bandwagon?

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

If I wanted to be preached I'll go to church

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By *andWCouple over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ? "

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about?

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

Lol

Is it cause groupsex is almost impossible,with only two.

Is it cause,even married people like variety,and diversity.

Is it cause,married people feel marriage should be sexually inclusive,rather than restrictive.

Is it cause,god came to the married people in a dream,and said,go forth and swing.

is it cause,the marriage vows are more guidlines,than actual rules.

Is it cause,married people feel marriage should increase,not decrease life's experiences,and pleasures.

Is it cause,married people think,what God doesn't know won't hurt him.

Or Is it just cause.

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By *D40Couple over a year ago

Wolverhampton

If we are going to bring religion & sex into a thread then can i say has anyone read the 10 commandments and who can honestly hold their hand up and say they haven't committed at least one?

I'm seperated, have a partner who shares 80% of my life and have had sex with people on here.

Julie x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..........

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

Religion came up with the 10 Commandments.

no people came up with the ten commandments.

So all the paid liars in fancy dress, pontificating from the pulpit, have just jumped on a bandwagon?"

well, they believe they are right. We believe we are right being here, so stop judging lol. Just chill xx

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"..........

Religion isn't to 'blame'. People are.

Religion came up with the 10 Commandments.

no people came up with the ten commandments.

So all the paid liars in fancy dress, pontificating from the pulpit, have just jumped on a bandwagon?

well, they believe they are right. We believe we are right being here, so stop judging lol. Just chill xx"

I will never stop condemning the clergy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ? "

How many times in vanilla time does everyone sin?

If I go to confession at my local church and confess this swinging sin of breaking our marriage vows and I am granted forgiveness isnt this the same as when I confess about using the lords name in vain etc etc?

We're not meant to be perfect, hence why Jesus died on the cross for us

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"How are they committed to eachother fully if they sharing eachother on here ?

Double standards

Let's stay on track : I asked about marriage and religion. Should u mess about if u made vows to eachother and to God just to come on a site like this ?

How many times in vanilla time does everyone sin?

We're not meant to be perfect, hence why Jesus died on the cross for us"

What do u class as a sin ?

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

Religion is for the feared

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"Religion is for the feared"

Religion is for those incapable of independent thought.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about? "

I'm well aware what this site is all about.

Excuse to fook as many pple as we like.

Let's call it swinging give it a label and let's fook

Again can we stick to the thread we keep going of track

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anything that is applicable to breaking the 'rules' or commandments contained in the bible, anything that I would consider to be immoral from my own point of _iew.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Me I got married for the tax break

Need the extra money to meet other women

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By *andWCouple over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about?

I'm well aware what this site is all about.

Excuse to fook as many pple as we like.

Let's call it swinging give it a label and let's fook

Again can we stick to the thread we keep going of track "

I don't think really it was off track.

I just found it strange that on a swinging forum you ask people why they are here if they are committed to each other.

I think marriage has little to do with religion for some couples, like others have said it them coming together as one. I see that commitment as standing by each other through hard times, supporting each other, compromising so both are happy. So I think you can still swing together and be 100% committed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I believe the institution of marriage was only ever set up to keep track of the Queen's subjects...we can't have bastard offspring running around unaccounted for after all.....

But if two people love each other...they make their own private promises to each other...their own personal vows.

Excluding all others makes no sense, not if you love life...it only breeds petty jealousy...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about?

I'm well aware what this site is all about.

Excuse to fook as many pple as we like.

Let's call it swinging give it a label and let's fook

Again can we stick to the thread we keep going of track

I don't think really it was off track.

I just found it strange that on a swinging forum you ask people why they are here if they are committed to each other.

maybe in Disneyland

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

You forgot 1 tiny bit.

Love & cherish from this day forward, FORSAKING ALL OTHERS until death us do part. Xx

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"I believe the institution of marriage was only ever set up to keep track of the Queen's subjects...we can't have bastard offspring running around unaccounted for after all.....

......"

Yet there they are, running around Westminster.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about?

I'm well aware what this site is all about.

Excuse to fook as many pple as we like.

Let's call it swinging give it a label and let's fook

Again can we stick to the thread we keep going of track

I don't think really it was off track.

I just found it strange that on a swinging forum you ask people why they are here if they are committed to each other.

maybe in Disneyland

Well doesn't even work in Disney land, look at Britney and miley

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By *andWCouple over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about?

I'm well aware what this site is all about.

Excuse to fook as many pple as we like.

Let's call it swinging give it a label and let's fook

Again can we stick to the thread we keep going of track

I don't think really it was off track.

I just found it strange that on a swinging forum you ask people why they are here if they are committed to each other.

maybe in Disneyland

Not sure never been to know

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Religion is for those incapable of independent thought."

Is spirituality the same in your _iew?

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"Religion is for those incapable of independent thought.

Is spirituality the same in your _iew?"

My spirituality doesn't extend beyond The Glenlivet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lol. A true cynic. Don't worry- didn't have you down as one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just out of interest - which god/religion are we talking about? My god's fine with swinging.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just out of interest - which god/religion are we talking about? My god's fine with swinging."

Who is your God?

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"lol. A true cynic. Don't worry- didn't have you down as one. "

Which? A cynic or a spiritualist?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why do some get married just to end up on a site like this ?

Why get married in the first place if your just going to fook about later on ?

Where does it say you can't swing? Who says that swinging is against religion?

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other"

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"lol. A true cynic. Don't worry- didn't have you down as one.

Which? A cynic or a spiritualist?"

Spiritulist, sorry. Cynic? Well, definitely

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned."

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?"

It means no sex with anyone else, and is followed up in the comandments, that's why adultery is a sin, and against the law I think

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"lol. A true cynic. Don't worry- didn't have you down as one.

Which? A cynic or a spiritualist?

Spiritulist, sorry. Cynic? Well, definitely"

You're probably right.

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"Can we stick to the thread and not what's on my profile

Thank you very much

If ur committed to eachother then why get married then to come on a site like this ?

Sorry have you ended up on here not realising what the site is about?

I'm well aware what this site is all about.

Excuse to fook as many pple as we like.

Let's call it swinging give it a label and let's fook

Again can we stick to the thread we keep going of track "

Lol

You started a thread,accusing swingers of breaking the gods rules,and now your expecting those same people to abide by your rules.

I'm not great with irony,but I think that could be it.

Somebody will be getting a smiting soon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?"

it means forsaking anyone that will break the marriage up. A lover. Family. Friend. Its not just about sex

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

".......

It means no sex with anyone else, and is followed up in the comandments, that's why adultery is a sin, and against the law I think"

I make a point of breaking at least one Commandment every day. Some days I manage 4 or 5.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?

it means forsaking anyone that will break the marriage up. A lover. Family. Friend. Its not just about sex"

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?

it means forsaking anyone that will break the marriage up. A lover. Family. Friend. Its not just about sex

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

eben if your spouse is present and also if you are single, sex is a sin ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?

it means forsaking anyone that will break the marriage up. A lover. Family. Friend. Its not just about sex

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

dont forget how long ago all this was written.

U can divorce on the grounds of adultry. But do u really think a judge would take much notice if it was shown to be the couple swang

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I don't quite get the point of the whole thread - swinging is incompatible with conventional definitions of what a marriage should be, so if you are a swinger your definition is just different, it's about eg love and commitment, but not sexual exclusivity. That's axiomatic, what's the problem?

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"I don't quite get the point of the whole thread - swinging is incompatible with conventional definitions of what a marriage should be, so if you are a swinger your definition is just different, it's about eg love and commitment, but not sexual exclusivity. That's axiomatic, what's the problem?"
This!

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

And I think the OP is confusing the concepts of fidelity and commitment, they are not necessarily synonymous.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And I think the OP is confusing the concepts of fidelity and commitment, they are not necessarily synonymous."

I'm on about marriage and religion not sex and swinging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

".......

It means no sex with anyone else, and is followed up in the comandments, that's why adultery is a sin, and against the law I think

Some days I manage 4 or 5."

Re-read the ten commandments again- seems Catholisism breaks them right off and then there's the issue of when the Sabbath is- Saturday or Sunday. Complicated stuff, religion

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"And I think the OP is confusing the concepts of fidelity and commitment, they are not necessarily synonymous.

I'm on about marriage and religion not sex and swinging "

Nonsense, you are talking about all four, but not making any consistently clear point.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

".......

............ Complicated stuff, religion"

Lies often are, especially in Latin.

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By *innamon!Woman over a year ago

no matter

After 40 years I have fulfilled my vows and pretty much still am. we still married. that is enough in a lifetime.

I,m not here to fook about. I enjoy the company and forums.

At least I get a compliment now and then which doesnt happen at home.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And I think the OP is confusing the concepts of fidelity and commitment, they are not necessarily synonymous.

I'm on about marriage and religion not sex and swinging "

And I ask again OP what business is this of yours. You're a single woman with very extreme and highly prejudice _iews on your likes and dislikes on your profile.

If you are so bothered by married couples ( in church) why are you here , because you'll find lots of them and I can't wait to join the club.

We are the worst example of your criticism but you've completely ignored my prior posts.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

If you're a cougar and have sex with toyboys outside marriage it's called fornication and is a sin. And your point is??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

If you're a cougar and have sex with toyboys outside marriage it's called fornication and is a sin. And your point is??"

and I say again "The trouble is with pedestals is the higher they are the further you fall".

One wonders how many "toyboys" have trotted off home to their wives

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

If you're a cougar and have sex with toyboys outside marriage it's called fornication and is a sin. And your point is??

and I say again "The trouble is with pedestals is the higher they are the further you fall".

One wonders how many "toyboys" have trotted off home to their wives

I think it's just a trolling thread, but I do get irritated by a lack of a logical argument!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the op obviously likes to get reactions out of people and judging by her (his) profile,id say that is definate.

marriage has nothing to do with religion,im married and im not religious in the slightest.i dont need a fake god to base my morals on.we do what we want rather than act like sheep,like people who follow religion do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And I think the OP is confusing the concepts of fidelity and commitment, they are not necessarily synonymous.

I'm on about marriage and religion not sex and swinging "

Sex outside marriage is a sin.

Are you married?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I believe the institution of marriage was only ever set up to keep track of the Queen's subjects...we can't have bastard offspring running around unaccounted for after all.....

......

Yet there they are, running around Westminster."

But ....we've never 'demanded' their removal?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

If you're a cougar and have sex with toyboys outside marriage it's called fornication and is a sin. And your point is??"

You're going to get told off for going off topic...

The op doesn't want to talk about her own failings

she just wants to start threads where there are strong opposing _iews and then ignore all the reasonable comments

that are given and just regurgitate the same old narrow minded shit. If you have a quick scan through the second 'lets hang em' thread you'll notice she struggles to even count when the numbers involved are less than 10...

We shouldn't feed the Trolls 'Fact'

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"I believe the institution of marriage was only ever set up to keep track of the Queen's subjects...we can't have bastard offspring running around unaccounted for after all.....

......

Yet there they are, running around Westminster.

But ....we've never 'demanded' their removal?

We change them around from time to time to keep them awake but no sooner have we discarded the numpties, they get a seat in the Lords - forever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I believe the institution of marriage was only ever set up to keep track of the Queen's subjects...we can't have bastard offspring running around unaccounted for after all.....

......

Yet there they are, running around Westminster.

But ....we've never 'demanded' their removal?

We change them around from time to time to keep them awake but no sooner have we discarded the numpties, they get a seat in the Lords - forever."

Yeah we change em round but they still work for the same folk...decade after decade after decade, when will we see the merry-go-round we're on?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"in the vow, I don't see have not have sex with anyone else.

Think there is- something about keeping yourself for each other and being true to each other

Yes there is:

"Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honour, and keep her in sickness and in health; and, forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

They are fundamental to most marriage ceremonies, but there may well be version that exclude promises of exclusivity, so I guess swingers would choose those if they were concerned.

Does 'forsaking all others' mean no sex with other people? Or does it mean the two people are always there for each other?

It means no sex with anyone else, and is followed up in the comandments, that's why adultery is a sin, and against the law I think"

Adultery isn't a criminal offense in this country so it isn't against the law.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And I think the OP is confusing the concepts of fidelity and commitment, they are not necessarily synonymous.

I'm on about marriage and religion not sex and swinging

Sex outside marriage is a sin.

Are you married?"

important question and requires an answer.

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By *andWCouple over a year ago

Pontypridd

Hang all the sinners I say!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hang all the sinners I say!

Oh good plan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hang all the sinners I say!

Oh good plan

who would be left then? lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

you can tell by the op's profile when we normal (non daily mail readers) put our clocks back 1 hour.the op wanted to return her clock to the good old days when britain was great cough cough

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By *andWCouple over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Hang all the sinners I say!

Oh good plan

who would be left then? lol"

Well us 4 are ok we aren't married ha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hang all the sinners I say!

Oh good plan

who would be left then? lol"

Single men and fems , well those that are not married that is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thank goodness we aren't married yet!

Wouldn't want us to be sinners!!

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By *andWCouple over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Thank goodness we aren't married yet!

Wouldn't want us to be sinners!!

You are saved!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you can tell by the op's profile when we normal (non daily mail readers) put our clocks back 1 hour.the op wanted to return her clock to the good old days when britain was great cough cough"

I don't get these continual snipes at newspapers ? What does the opinion / content of one newspaper have to do with this? I see more and more posts like this ... I think it's a bit odd

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hang all the sinners I say!

Oh good plan

who would be left then? lol

Single men and fems , well those that are not married that is

only those that arent engaging in copulation, as thats a sin also.

so, once again, i have to ask....who would be left? lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thank goodness we aren't married yet!

Wouldn't want us to be sinners!!

You are saved!"

That's a relief

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hang all the sinners I say!

Oh good plan

who would be left then? lol

Single men and fems , well those that are not married that is

only those that arent engaging in copulation, as thats a sin also.

so, once again, i have to ask....who would be left? lol"

I think I'm going to have to have a very difficult heart to heart with our vicar about all this. I wonder whether wood or embarrassment will rise first

At least our vicars real though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's no such thing as sin - it's just a concept made up by a load of old farts a few thousand years ago and believed by anybody still claiming to follow one of the imaginary gods. Your own sense of morality should guide you through life, not the made-up words of some bearded git on a mountain side.

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By *londeCazWoman over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"you can tell by the op's profile when we normal (non daily mail readers) put our clocks back 1 hour.the op wanted to return her clock to the good old days when britain was great cough cough

I don't get these continual snipes at newspapers ? What does the opinion / content of one newspaper have to do with this? I see more and more posts like this ... I think it's a bit odd

Some folk like to feel superior to those of us who read red tops and they generalise us all to be Neanderthal, bring back hanging, chuck all the immigrants out and none of this feminism shite - get your knickers off and make us a cuppa tea tart types

Personally, I won't go any further than a good birching for men who wear socks with desert wellies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If ur married and have sex with other pple and not ur spouse it's called adultery and it's a Sin

If you're a cougar and have sex with toyboys outside marriage it's called fornication and is a sin. And your point is??"

so OP it seems as if we are all on the same boat to hell. let me ask you....if you are so committed to your religion then why are you indulging in sex outside of marriage?

now focusing on your question....

obviously religion does not dictate the marriages of couples on this site. now there is a whole romantic spiel i was about to type but bottom line is marriage is a contract between two people who love each other. what is or isn't included in that contract is at the sole discretion of the couple. it may or may not include religion or sex. how to conduct their sex life is just one area that they are free to define however they wish to define it. if it goes against religious beliefs so be it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

you know come to think of it they don't even have to love each other if they don't want. ever heard of marriage of convenience, arranged marriages or lavender marriages?

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

I must admit I haven't read the whole thread but....

Here we have another thread where the singles are judging the couples...

Isn't this a place for open minded adults to meet, chat and play without the judgement of others...

Also, , let's face it religion has had double standards since it started. The church saying give us your money and your soul will be saved. Then the leaders spending that money on palaces, drink and hookers...

We come on here and go to clubs as an extension of our sex life. We love and I trust each other totally. Do we judge you on here as a single person.? No... You like us are herefor fun... Should we say you are on here as a single person so you must be damaged no. We say if we like you and you like us lets have some fun. If you are not for us we say no thanks, good luck and have fun...

There is enough shit in the world with out us turning on each other...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit I haven't read the whole thread but....

Here we have another thread where the singles are judging the couples...

Isn't this a place for open minded adults to meet, chat and play without the judgement of others...

There is enough shit in the world with out us turning on each other..."

if you think the swinging world is full of easy going, non judgemental open minded lovebeings, then you are either rather naive or blinkered in your encounters with people.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"you can tell by the op's profile when we normal (non daily mail readers) put our clocks back 1 hour.the op wanted to return her clock to the good old days when britain was great cough cough

I don't get these continual snipes at newspapers ? What does the opinion / content of one newspaper have to do with this? I see more and more posts like this ... I think it's a bit odd

Reading the Daily Mail says more about you than jackboots and a swastica tattoo ever could.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does it now

Alright then what does it say about me when I read the Newark Advertiser?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you can tell by the op's profile when we normal (non daily mail readers) put our clocks back 1 hour.the op wanted to return her clock to the good old days when britain was great cough cough

I don't get these continual snipes at newspapers ? What does the opinion / content of one newspaper have to do with this? I see more and more posts like this ... I think it's a bit odd

Reading the Daily Mail says more about you than jackboots and a swastica tattoo ever could."

that really is a very silly thing to say.

i sometimes read the SUN, however, havent got past the centre pages for years.

the sports reporting is second to non, and this is why i get the paper.

so, does that make me some knuckle dragging neanderthal, because i like decent sports journalism?

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

Yeah. Like people only buy Playboy for the political articles.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit I haven't read the whole thread but....

Here we have another thread where the singles are judging the couples...

Isn't this a place for open minded adults to meet, chat and play without the judgement of others...

There is enough shit in the world with out us turning on each other..."

Oofft...where to start on this one!!

Firstly...the topic was about marriage and religion....not couples!! Not all couples see the need for government/church approval of their love...especially since both seem to condemn the lifestyle.

Secondly...this IS the 'forums' a place for differing opinions to be heard, voiced and debated without everyone getting all defensive and rowdy!

And lastly...

Couples don't judge singles?

.......Sorry!!....were you being serious with that one??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah. Like people only buy Playboy for the political articles."

no idea.

never bought playboy.

is their political reporting good?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit I haven't read the whole thread but....

Here we have another thread where the singles are judging the couples...

Isn't this a place for open minded adults to meet, chat and play without the judgement of others...

There is enough shit in the world with out us turning on each other...

Oofft...where to start on this one!!

Firstly...the topic was about marriage and religion....not couples!! Not all couples see the need for government/church approval of their love...especially since both seem to condemn the lifestyle.

Secondly...this IS the 'forums' a place for differing opinions to be heard, voiced and debated without everyone getting all defensive and rowdy!

And lastly...

Couples don't judge singles?

.......Sorry!!....were you being serious with that one??

notice the Fruedean slip in the post??

We come on here and go to clubs as an extension of our sex life. We love and I trust each other totally

seems like maybe one partner doesnt trust the other as much as one may think....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit I haven't read the whole thread but....

Here we have another thread where the singles are judging the couples...

Isn't this a place for open minded adults to meet, chat and play without the judgement of others...

There is enough shit in the world with out us turning on each other...

Oofft...where to start on this one!!

Firstly...the topic was about marriage and religion....not couples!! Not all couples see the need for government/church approval of their love...especially since both seem to condemn the lifestyle.

Secondly...this IS the 'forums' a place for differing opinions to be heard, voiced and debated without everyone getting all defensive and rowdy!

And lastly...

Couples don't judge singles?

.......Sorry!!....were you being serious with that one??

The thread is exactly about married couples and religion

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"Yeah. Like people only buy Playboy for the political articles.

no idea.

never bought playboy.

is their political reporting good?"

Like The Sun, there's an emphasis on tits.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah. Like people only buy Playboy for the political articles.

no idea.

never bought playboy.

is their political reporting good?

Like The Sun, there's an emphasis on tits."

dont see how you work that out.

1 page with tits on, the rest is made up of those wordy things.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

Sun-tits and crap

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sun-tits and crap"

may well be, but as i stated, the sport coverage in the guardian just doesnt cut it, im afraid

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The topic of this thread isnt too disimilar to one in stories and fantasies. A post about someone taking their wife dogging.

There's an interesting insight from one gentleman with several veri's from couples on how he _iews couples playing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The thread is exactly about married couples and religion

Yes!! So nobody was "bashing couples", just maybe those who NEED the bit of paper, that actually goes against the very point of swinging in the first place!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The thread is exactly about married couples and religion

Yes!! So nobody was "bashing couples", just maybe those who NEED the bit of paper, that actually goes against the very point of swinging in the first place!!

Let me get this right. Are you saying that non married couples, fine fill your boots on here.

Married couples should not need to swing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Religion does have its place in society (read Religion For Atheists) but one must remember that Christianity is based on hearsay and choice (the New Testament was written a few hundred years after Christ's death and there was a group of men who chose what books were to be included/omitted from what we know as the Bible). Oh don't forget that translation/interpretation has also altered meanings over the centuries.

Over hundreds of years we have discovered there are different rules for the rich and poor - heads of state could commit adultery (take monarchs and their many bastard offspring) and so could priests. If you've watched the Borgias and consequently read up on the goings-on within the upper echelons of the Catholic church, many bastards were born, only to become legitimised when that cardinal became Pope

So he without sin....

I am deeply spiritual and regard all religions as historical to our present cultures, so they have earned respect but NOT adoration IMO.

The reason I am on earth is to be the best person I can be, aligning myself WITH others and either helping them or learning from them (never harming them knowingly). Sex is part of this experience.

And I love it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Religion does have its place in society (read Religion For Atheists) but one must remember that Christianity is based on hearsay and choice (the New Testament was written a few hundred years after Christ's death and there was a group of men who chose what books were to be included/omitted from what we know as the Bible). Oh don't forget that translation/interpretation has also altered meanings over the centuries.

So he without sin....

I am deeply spiritual and regard all religions as historical to our present cultures, so they have earned respect but NOT adoration IMO.

The reason I am on earth is to be the best person I can be, aligning myself WITH others and either helping them or learning from them (never harming them knowingly). Sex is part of this experience.

And I love it

Amen

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

BTW if I ever remarry, the contract I and my partner will undertake will be ours alone.

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