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Yaya Toure has alleged racist chanting in Moscow and is claiming that Black players could boycott 2018 World Cup in Russia.
If things don't improve and and the governing bodies fail in its duty to act, should a boycott go ahead or does it play right into the hands of the racists? |
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Things wont improve & the governing bodies will never impliment sanctions that will cost the club owners money. Yes, coloured players should boycott a tournament. Then shit will get real, real quick. |
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"Things wont improve & the governing bodies will never impliment sanctions that will cost the club owners money. Yes, coloured players should boycott a tournament. Then shit will get real, real quick."
sorry, a boycott of the tournament by black players would just give racists what they want.
and why should black players have to stand alone?
EVERY player should stand together and back each other up.
its not going to cost players or clubs a penny, in fact, i would conclude the clubs would back a boycott, as their players would get a nice break in the summer instead. |
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The World Cup is the pinnacle of most international footballers careers. For many it transcends football as whole countries get behind the 11 men lining up to represent their flag and them.
Those 11 men are in effect the country they represent for the 90 minutes of a match.
All 11 men have a responsibility to appreciate that they represent something much bigger than themselves, I therefore believe individual boycotts are not the way to deal with this.
That said, each country has a responsibility to protect it's representatives and see any slight on them as a slight on the country and the flag.
So even though I don't believe it will happen, any boycott or sanction should be led by the country and not placed on the shoulders of an individual representing the country.
What is worst, an overt racist or a country that does not stand up to protect it's citizens who are chosen to represent it? |
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"Things wont improve & the governing bodies will never impliment sanctions that will cost the club owners money. Yes, coloured players should boycott a tournament. Then shit will get real, real quick.
sorry, a boycott of the tournament by black players would just give racists what they want.
and why should black players have to stand alone?
EVERY player should stand together and back each other up.
its not going to cost players or clubs a penny, in fact, i would conclude the clubs would back a boycott, as their players would get a nice break in the summer instead."
Difficult one.... playing in the tournament gives the racists further opportunities to do as they want, which is to abuse people they feel are inferior...
Boycotting or at least seriously threatening it might get the footballing bodies and apathetic non black players to wake up and support the grievances of their colleagues and may adopt strategies that will be a little more effective
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By (user no longer on site)
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But this problem is far from unique to Russia?
It's safe to say that the FA will do fuck all because challenging it will only highlight their own hypocrisy.
Likewise why few gocerning bodies are making any real noise about government sanctioned homophobia in Russia in the build up to the winter olympics.
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"Things wont improve & the governing bodies will never impliment sanctions that will cost the club owners money. Yes, coloured players should boycott a tournament. Then shit will get real, real quick."
Who or what is a coloured player?
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"The World Cup is the pinnacle of most international footballers careers. For many it transcends football as whole countries get behind the 11 men lining up to represent their flag and them.
Those 11 men are in effect the country they represent for the 90 minutes of a match.
All 11 men have a responsibility to appreciate that they represent something much bigger than themselves, I therefore believe individual boycotts are not the way to deal with this.
That said, each country has a responsibility to protect it's representatives and see any slight on them as a slight on the country and the flag.
So even though I don't believe it will happen, any boycott or sanction should be led by the country and not placed on the shoulders of an individual representing the country.
What is worst, an overt racist or a country that does not stand up to protect it's citizens who are chosen to represent it?"
^^^^^This!  |
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Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader. |
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"Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader. "
It sounds as though you are in no position to advise anyone on growing up. |
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"Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader.
It sounds as though you are in no position to advise anyone on growing up. "
You have to educate, not legislate. So don't be surprised when you go to the far flung and realise that not everyone shares our more educated views on one world-ism. |
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"Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader. "
There is a world of difference between not all getting along and disliking people based purely on their race or sexuality. |
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"Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader.
It sounds as though you are in no position to advise anyone on growing up.
You have to educate, not legislate. So don't be surprised when you go to the far flung and realise that not everyone shares our more educated views on one world-ism. "
So to address the point directly, do you think a nation that has successfully bid for an international tournament with a clearly defined set of ideals should be exempt from having to uphold them because it's too 'far flung' for that to be practical? |
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"How would you like to see them "upheld" exactly? How would you ensure that they change their views in time for the games?"
There are well defined procedures for dealing with racism at football matches. Look them up. Then answer the question. |
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"Things wont improve & the governing bodies will never impliment sanctions that will cost the club owners money. Yes, coloured players should boycott a tournament. Then shit will get real, real quick.Who or what is a coloured player?"
This i'd like to know too.
"Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader. "
What the actual blue fuck? |
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"How would you like to see them "upheld" exactly? How would you ensure that they change their views in time for the games?
There are well defined procedures for dealing with racism at football matches. Look them up. Then answer the question. "
I was asking what you'd do. |
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"Things wont improve & the governing bodies will never impliment sanctions that will cost the club owners money. Yes, coloured players should boycott a tournament. Then shit will get real, real quick.Who or what is a coloured player?
This i'd like to know too.
Isn't it about time the world grew up and realised that we don't all get along no matter how hard we try? This isn't a fairy tale, not everyone is a guardian reader.
What the actual blue fuck?"
Am I wrong? |
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its a political and sociological change that needs to be made, not merely for the acceptance of black footballers, but also for the acceptance of different colours, sexualities and religions wherever they are hated.
yes, we wont all get along, thats acceptable, we dont all get along in the UK, but tolerance isnt about everyone being happy with everyone else, tolerance is about not hating someone for the fact they are different in some way. |
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"Between racism and homophobia, I think I will cross Russia off of my places to go on holiday next year. I may just sit and read a day in the life of Ivan Denisovich, instead.  "
It's not just racism, they hate the polish, and the Eukranians just as much, to name just two. |
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Pay be 150-200k a week and anyone can call me anything they want.
As my dad use to say sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
The people who chant these things are bigots and no laws will change them.
All this publicity is giving them what they want, their 15 minutes in the limelight.
Ignore them and they will move on, its only fun to them while they get a reaction. |
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Don't be so nieve as to think my posts are about the colour of peoples skin. I've seen normal men turn into wild spitting swearing creatures of hate that would happily do terrible things to their fellow man, and all because he supported a different team. We don't all love each other no matter how much we wish it otherwise. |
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"The World Cup is the pinnacle of most international footballers careers. For many it transcends football as whole countries get behind the 11 men lining up to represent their flag and them.
Those 11 men are in effect the country they represent for the 90 minutes of a match.
All 11 men have a responsibility to appreciate that they represent something much bigger than themselves, I therefore believe individual boycotts are not the way to deal with this.
That said, each country has a responsibility to protect it's representatives and see any slight on them as a slight on the country and the flag.
So even though I don't believe it will happen, any boycott or sanction should be led by the country and not placed on the shoulders of an individual representing the country.
What is worst, an overt racist or a country that does not stand up to protect it's citizens who are chosen to represent it?"
Well said |
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"Between racism and homophobia, I think I will cross Russia off of my places to go on holiday next year. I may just sit and read a day in the life of Ivan Denisovich, instead.
It's not just racism, they hate the polish, and the Eukranians just as much, to name just two."
yes that sounds like racism...  |
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"Don't be so nieve as to think my posts are about the colour of peoples skin. I've seen normal men turn into wild spitting swearing creatures of hate that would happily do terrible things to their fellow man, and all because he supported a different team. We don't all love each other no matter how much we wish it otherwise."
then i would argue that they are not the "normal men" that you think they are |
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"Pay be 150-200k a week and anyone can call me anything they want.
As my dad use to say sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
The people who chant these things are bigots and no laws will change them.
All this publicity is giving them what they want, their 15 minutes in the limelight.
Ignore them and they will move on, its only fun to them while they get a reaction. "
So the world will see it is acceptable to promote racism to millions of growing children?..I'm all for adults being able to stand up for themselves.....so lets say..... world cup under 12's....racist chants/actions should be acceptable?
I'm no leftliberalcommunistanti-thisanti-thatfascist but its not a simple case of political correctness gone mad etc, it is in your face open racism.
ignore and move on, while thousands of people watch as you are victimized and degraded in front of the world for being black...
yeahh thats worth the pay packet.....
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"Don't be so nieve as to think my posts are about the colour of peoples skin. I've seen normal men turn into wild spitting swearing creatures of hate that would happily do terrible things to their fellow man, and all because he supported a different team. We don't all love each other no matter how much we wish it otherwise.
then i would argue that they are not the "normal men" that you think they are"
Well he was a football supporter so never going to be the sharpest tool in the box to be fair. Made worse because of the old catholic/protestant traditional trouble. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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the problem is that the FA in footballing circles leads the world in dealing with this... but in real world terms is a drop in the ocean...
and uefa are even worse at dealing with this, case in point being them reducing the punishment for lazio and their fans for racist abuse against lyon from a 3 match stadium ban.... to 1 match.... and now just a closing of the Curva Nord (the main ultra's home end) but the other 3/4 of the ground to remain open....
the highest ever fine for racial about given out by uefa is 40000 euros (29,000 pounds) |
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Its unpleasant and not being black cannot do owt but emathise but its still part of cultures abroad even in uk and of individual players wish to make a stand then fine but in this instance we only have the players version as i read one of the black players from cska saod he dod mot hear any racist chanting.
If true its bad but if misinterpreted then the player should apologise using the race card is very easy to band about but without firm evidence its nowt more than heresay and in itself is just as bad. Innocent till proven guilty in my eyes.
If its proved then yes take action. |
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"Its unpleasant and not being black cannot do owt but emathise but its still part of cultures abroad even in uk and of individual players wish to make a stand then fine but in this instance we only have the players version as i read one of the black players from cska saod he dod mot hear any racist chanting.
If true its bad but if misinterpreted then the player should apologise using the race card is very easy to band about but without firm evidence its nowt more than heresay and in itself is just as bad. Innocent till proven guilty in my eyes.
If its proved then yes take action."
I barely think the race card comes into it when "boos", monkey chants come from a fair portion of the fans...its not hearsay,rumour,opinions...they are filmed and heard....throughout the world. |
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"Does rugby encounter the same problems?
No but it isn't enjoyed by the same amount of people."
It aint the amount of people its the moronic footy fans involved. |
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Very difficult to find a perfect answer. Racism exists all over the world, sadly, and is very prevalent in Russia in particular areas. If the world is watching, then I believe FIFA will deal with matches better than they have done previously, and hopefully if things go wrong (which I hope the don't), then hopefully this will prevent further world cups etc going to them!
Not going to change society and cultire of other countries, especially Russia, without military involvement. It needs to get taken more seriously, but it isn't really taken as seriously as it should in most countries I can think of. |
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"Its unpleasant and not being black cannot do owt but emathise but its still part of cultures abroad even in uk and of individual players wish to make a stand then fine but in this instance we only have the players version as i read one of the black players from cska saod he dod mot hear any racist chanting.
If true its bad but if misinterpreted then the player should apologise using the race card is very easy to band about but without firm evidence its nowt more than heresay and in itself is just as bad. Innocent till proven guilty in my eyes.
If its proved then yes take action.
I barely think the race card comes into it when "boos", monkey chants come from a fair portion of the fans...its not hearsay,rumour,opinions...they are filmed and heard....throughout the world."
Not saying it does not happen but as yet its not been proved in this instance. |
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"Does rugby encounter the same problems?
No but it isn't enjoyed by the same amount of people.
It aint the amount of people its the moronic footy fans involved."
more to do with the fact football has always been seen as the 'common' mans game, whereas rugby was for the upper classes.
we all know thats not necessarily the case, however, you cannot judge football fans to be morons, any more than you can suggest rugby fans are snobs.
dont think there is too much pimms sold at twickenham lol |
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"One solution is to have separate games for black and white players.
I'm mixed race though...sigh"
OK so we need to have separate matches for mixed race too. Cultures will never co-exist in harmony. Even the immigrants coming to the UK do not want to integrate with the white british population. |
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"One solution is to have separate games for black and white players.
I'm mixed race though...sigh
OK so we need to have separate matches for mixed race too. Cultures will never co-exist in harmony. Even the immigrants coming to the UK do not want to integrate with the white british population."
I am seriously lost for words.
Segregation seems a lot of effort, what are your thoughts on mass euthansia? |
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"One solution is to have separate games for black and white players.
I'm mixed race though...sigh
OK so we need to have separate matches for mixed race too. Cultures will never co-exist in harmony. Even the immigrants coming to the UK do not want to integrate with the white british population."
what about the white immigrants?
U see where I'm going with this.. |
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The Russian racists won't win if the finals are stripped, they most certainly lose. This tournament is 4½ years away so can easily be stripped from Russia & there's at least four our five other countries in Europe who already have the infrastructure to host a world cup.
And for those who don't know, the world cup has absolutely nothing to do with clubs - its about playing for your country!
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The simple solution to this if a club or countries fans chant racist abuse the club or country lose 20% of the match day revenue generated. On the next occasion it happens 40% if it happens again they play the next fixture in an empty stadium.
Once profits are affected the organisations will take steps to stamp it out immediately. |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans."
Gladiatorial? When and where was this football match in which the losing team was slaughtered?!
Rivalry is an integral part of all sport. Rules and sanctions are supposed to exist that stop healthy rivalry from descending into outright hatred and violence. What you propose as a 'solution' is in fact missing the point entirely.
If you don't like football that's up to you. Leave the solutions to people that actually do take an interest. |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans."
disagree with this.
im a WBA fan, however by brothers are wolves fans, do i hate them?
only 1, and that has nothing to do with his team.
again, im a fan of football, i love all football, and root for all midlands teams, as i would rather midlands football be on the up, than me taking the piss out of one on the way down, as it will happen to mine sooner or later.
so no, every football fan isnt a single brain celled fascist/racist |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans.
Gladiatorial? When and where was this football match in which the losing team was slaughtered?!
Rivalry is an integral part of all sport. Rules and sanctions are supposed to exist that stop healthy rivalry from descending into outright hatred and violence. What you propose as a 'solution' is in fact missing the point entirely.
If you don't like football that's up to you. Leave the solutions to people that actually do take an interest. "
I do take an interest in football - I watch it on the tv and and have managed to never beat up opposing fans, or chant racist slogans at my tv set. And not all losing gladiators were slaughtered - they were too valuable as entertainers. |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans.
disagree with this.
im a WBA fan, however by brothers are wolves fans, do i hate them?
only 1, and that has nothing to do with his team.
again, im a fan of football, i love all football, and root for all midlands teams, as i would rather midlands football be on the up, than me taking the piss out of one on the way down, as it will happen to mine sooner or later.
so no, every football fan isnt a single brain celled fascist/racist"
I didn't say that every football fan is a single brain celled fascist/racist - I am simply saying that all the racist problems seem to stem from fans actually at the games, rather than those that watch it on tv. |
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"Does rugby encounter the same problems?
No but it isn't enjoyed by the same amount of people.
It aint the amount of people its the moronic footy fans involved.
more to do with the fact football has always been seen as the 'common' mans game, whereas rugby was for the upper classes.
we all know thats not necessarily the case, however, you cannot judge football fans to be morons, any more than you can suggest rugby fans are snobs.
dont think there is too much pimms sold at twickenham lol"
They do sell beer though. So I think that there is a statement there that rugby fans can drink without causing trouble. |
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"I do take an interest in football - I watch it on the tv and and have managed to never beat up opposing fans, or chant racist slogans at my tv set. "
What makes you think this isn't true of the vast majority of fans that actually go to matches?
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"Between racism and homophobia, I think I will cross Russia off of my places to go on holiday next year. I may just sit and read a day in the life of Ivan Denisovich, instead. "
I had to read that for my O level English Lit, along with Walkabout and Tarka the Otter. How he survived a day is a testament to the human spirit...but I digress! |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans."
What a ridiculous moronic thing to say. |
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"I do take an interest in football - I watch it on the tv and and have managed to never beat up opposing fans, or chant racist slogans at my tv set.
What makes you think this isn't true of the vast majority of fans that actually go to matches?
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In fact, don't answer that. Your original comment makes it impossible for me to believe you've ever watched 90 minutes of football. Even on TV.  |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans.
disagree with this.
im a WBA fan, however by brothers are wolves fans, do i hate them?
only 1, and that has nothing to do with his team.
again, im a fan of football, i love all football, and root for all midlands teams, as i would rather midlands football be on the up, than me taking the piss out of one on the way down, as it will happen to mine sooner or later.
so no, every football fan isnt a single brain celled fascist/racist
I didn't say that every football fan is a single brain celled fascist/racist - I am simply saying that all the racist problems seem to stem from fans actually at the games, rather than those that watch it on tv."
First & foremost, racism is in society in general, that's why it's in the stadiums - not the other way around - & you only have to look at certain posts here on FAB to know that it exists here in Britain also -if you didn't already know however, Russia is plagued by racism & homophobia so therefore should be stripped of hosting the games.
It does make you wonder how the hell they were given the games in the first place - or Qatar for that matter; but that dirty three letter word beginning with 'O' is prevalent in both states, after all!
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"One solution is to have separate games for black and white players.
I'm mixed race though...sigh
OK so we need to have separate matches for mixed race too. Cultures will never co-exist in harmony. Even the immigrants coming to the UK do not want to integrate with the white british population.
I am seriously lost for words.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans.
What a ridiculous moronic thing to say."
A personal insult with no back-up argument to the post - well-played sir  |
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans.
What a ridiculous moronic thing to say.
Hardly a personal insult just a reply to a silly comment.
A personal insult with no back-up argument to the post - well-played sir "
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"I do take an interest in football - I watch it on the tv and and have managed to never beat up opposing fans, or chant racist slogans at my tv set.
What makes you think this isn't true of the vast majority of fans that actually go to matches?
In fact, don't answer that. Your original comment makes it impossible for me to believe you've ever watched 90 minutes of football. Even on TV. "
Your belief is wrong, and who the f are you to tell me what I can or can't answer on this forum? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Simple solution - ban all fans from football matches. It's a pointless gladiatorial sport that promotes rivalry and disharmony between humans.
disagree with this.
im a WBA fan, however by brothers are wolves fans, do i hate them?
only 1, and that has nothing to do with his team.
again, im a fan of football, i love all football, and root for all midlands teams, as i would rather midlands football be on the up, than me taking the piss out of one on the way down, as it will happen to mine sooner or later.
so no, every football fan isnt a single brain celled fascist/racist
I didn't say that every football fan is a single brain celled fascist/racist - I am simply saying that all the racist problems seem to stem from fans actually at the games, rather than those that watch it on tv."
sorry, you have that the wrong way round.
racism, as well as other isms, are a sociotol problem.
because there are racists in society, it stands to reason there will be racists in stadia, no matter what the sport.
however, thankfully, there are not enough to make a voice heard in this country anymore, and any views of an extreme nature, are dealt with in a way we deem to be pleasing (in as much as fines/stadium bans and social naming.)
in countries that are, arguably, less developed countries as our own, there will obviously be more trouble as there will be more openly bigotted people.
you could bet they would have the same problem if russia played any other large stadia based sports (not really the done thing chanting while watching athletics). |
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ah, and, of course i forget, how the hell would you know that fans that dont attend matches arent screaming racist abuse at their sets?
you cant police what people do in their own homes. |
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"ah, and, of course i forget, how the hell would you know that fans that dont attend matches arent screaming racist abuse at their sets?
you cant police what people do in their own homes."
Well said |
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"ah, and, of course i forget, how the hell would you know that fans that dont attend matches arent screaming racist abuse at their sets?
you cant police what people do in their own homes."
I don't know, but that's not really the point is it? It's about the racist chanting at black players in a football stadium from the fans that are present. Take away that factor, and the immediate problem will cease. If you put that many people together in the same place, and give them the opportunity to be openly racist, then the mob-rule mentality will prevail. |
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"ah, and, of course i forget, how the hell would you know that fans that dont attend matches arent screaming racist abuse at their sets?
you cant police what people do in their own homes.
I don't know, but that's not really the point is it? It's about the racist chanting at black players in a football stadium from the fans that are present. Take away that factor, and the immediate problem will cease. If you put that many people together in the same place, and give them the opportunity to be openly racist, then the mob-rule mentality will prevail."
the point is about the racism which seems to be rife in russia, and the impact it will have on the world cup.
its not about JUST football fans.
whats the point of banning racism from football grounds when its still going to be openly practiced in the wider public.
no point a black player not being abused inside a stadium if, the first time he goes to a restraunt he will get it. |
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"One solution is to have separate games for black and white players.
I'm mixed race though...sigh
Referee lol "
I tried that for the womens football...for some reason I was banned for suggesting they all swapped tops in the privacy of my office |
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ERRRRRRRRRRRM -getting back to the original post;
Yes, I believe that all black players 'should' boycott the world cup.
In which case FIFA will have no option but strip the tournament from Russia - simples!!! |
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"One solution is to have separate games for black and white players.
I'm mixed race though...sigh
Referee lol
I tried that for the womens football...for some reason I was banned for suggesting they all swapped tops in the privacy of my office"
Poor sportspersonship on their behalf
Oh balls sportsmanship ! |
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its not about JUST football fans.
whats the point of banning racism from football grounds when its still going to be openly practiced in the wider public.
no point a black player not being abused inside a stadium if, the first time he goes to a restraunt he will get it."
Even the longest journey starts with the first step. |
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I think ALL players not just black players should boycott this shambles, stand together and support each other like real sportsmen.
Its easy to say oh its just words by morons, ignore and move on, but what sort of example is that setting to the younger generation?
Hit them where it hurts, financially and they'll start doing something about it. |
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"So Uefa has now taken 'strong action' against CSKA by closing a small section of the stadium for their next match.
Really Uefa....and how does that send a strong message  "
Their stadium wasn't even full for the City game. So it will have no effect.....its simply not important enough to the people who run the game. |
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Part of the problem with racism in East European countries stems from being behind the iron curtain.until there was free movement across Europe a lot of eastern countries never had a large black population.so it down to the governments of those countries to educate the people.but its going to take a long time.look at how Britain was when they invited all the Caribbean over after the war.they couldn't get no were to live etc.racism start at home .so until there parents are educated nothing going to change over night |
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"So Uefa has now taken 'strong action' against CSKA by closing a small section of the stadium for their next match.
Really Uefa....and how does that send a strong message
Their stadium wasn't even full for the City game. So it will have no effect.....its simply not important enough to the people who run the game. "
the same people who constantly go on about the 'football family' and making the game accessible to all countries..
being a cynic one would think its more about corporate profit.. |
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