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"Just a heads up, at 22:20 tonight on ITV.
Even if you're not a Formula 1 fan its a fascinating documentary about an amazing man."
Him and Jim Clarke best ever in my book will be watching. |
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Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet "
Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1 |
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet "
He was, but it might be the prog about Lauda that you saw recently, The Senna Film is amazing
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet
Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1 "
Barrachello injured in a crash on the Friday. Ratzenburger killed during qualifying on the Saturday and Senna killed during the race on Sunday. A truly horrific weekend for the sport.
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet
He was, but it might be the prog about Lauda that you saw recently, The Senna Film is amazing
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Ah yes Nicki Lauder, now i remember |
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet
Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1
Barrachello injured in a crash on the Friday. Ratzenburger killed during qualifying on the Saturday and Senna killed during the race on Sunday. A truly horrific weekend for the sport.
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I thought that Senna was killed in practice, from memory????
But I do recall either Barrichello or Ratzenburger (excuse my spelling) having almost exactly the same accident on that same 180mph left hander - yet he hit the concrete wall slightly higher & survived. |
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet
Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1
Barrachello injured in a crash on the Friday. Ratzenburger killed during qualifying on the Saturday and Senna killed during the race on Sunday. A truly horrific weekend for the sport.
I thought that Senna was killed in practice, from memory????
But I do recall either Barrichello or Ratzenburger (excuse my spelling) having almost exactly the same accident on that same 180mph left hander - yet he hit the concrete wall slightly higher & survived."
No, Senna was killed during the race on Sunday. He was the last driver killed in F1. |
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Ayrton Senna da Silva 21 March 1960 – 1 May 1994) was a Brazilian racing driver who won three Formula One world championships. He was killed in an accident while leading the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix. He remains the last driver fatality in Formula One.
Unbelievable tragic waste of a great man. I was watching that race and it was horrific x |
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I'd really like to see a similar documentary about Alex Zanardi. He lost both his legs in a horrific crash in 2001 in an IndyCar race and went on to win a gold medal at the London Paralympic games. |
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"is this just another documentry... or is this the film about him that everyone raves on about...
if so.. will definately sky plus it!"
It's the film everyone raves about, and for good reason. It is superb... |
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Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.
I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver. |
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"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.
I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver."
Unfortunately, it took the death of a high profile driver like Senna to introduce the safety devices they have now, notably the HANS device they wear to stop whiplash, that was a direct result of Imola as it was a broken neck and head trauma that killed him.
Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer |
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By *emmefataleWoman
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"Just a heads up, at 22:20 tonight on ITV.
Even if you're not a Formula 1 fan its a fascinating documentary about an amazing man." I will start calling you Radio times man....thanks for the heads up...again! |
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet "
no that's Niki Lauda, just had film made about him, called Rush. Xx
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"Shouldn't that be the Tv Times or am I behind the times?Ok, next time I will put, any TV guide available. "
I just use an app on my phone.
But I fear 'android television guide app man' maybe a bit of a mouthful! |
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If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body. |
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"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.
I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.
Unfortunately, it took the death of a high profile driver like Senna to introduce the safety devices they have now, notably the HANS device they wear to stop whiplash, that was a direct result of Imola as it was a broken neck and head trauma that killed him.
Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer"
he was driving for the williams team, apparently the car had dodgy welding done to the steering colomn which the colomn eventually snapped and senna lost control at high speed, crashed and his head went into the broken steering colomn which he died of a result of serious head injuries, the race should of been cancelled after ratzenbergers death as a mark of respect i think |
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"is this just another documentry... or is this the film about him that everyone raves on about...
if so.. will definately sky plus it!" itis the film eeveryone raves about. But if you aren't into f1 then you will find it a bit dull. And if you are into f1 then you will find it frustrating. I work in motorsport and know many involved in the incident. Trust me it asks more questions than it answers. The fact is it was cold tyres/ and the resulting low pressures meaning a lower than normal ride hight that caused the accident. Plus the fact his head wasn't in the right place following the death of his good friend. The film tells nothing new and even omits a lot that is known. No one in motorsport will privately rate the film its just a bit of fluff for the masses |
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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body." he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head
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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head"
It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. |
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"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.
I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.
Unfortunately, it took the death of a high profile driver like Senna to introduce the safety devices they have now, notably the HANS device they wear to stop whiplash, that was a direct result of Imola as it was a broken neck and head trauma that killed him.
Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer
he was driving for the williams team, apparently the car had dodgy welding done to the steering colomn which the colomn eventually snapped and senna lost control at high speed, crashed and his head went into the broken steering colomn which he died of a result of serious head injuries, the race should of been cancelled after ratzenbergers death as a mark of respect i think"
Like any accident, there were a number of things that contributed. There had just been a safety car for another accident and it is believed that the tyre pressures had dropped, particularly at the rear, causing the car to bottom out. The steering column had been altered before the race and was broken after the accident but it was never proven to be the cause of the accident. Upon impact the front right tyre bounced back and struck his head and a piece of the front suspension penetrated the helmet just above the eye causing the head trauma which ultimately killed him.
It was a very sad weekend and very unlucky for him to die from what was actually quite a light impact. Many drivers have walked away from much worse looking accidents before and since. It's such a shame that one of the sports greatest champions had to die before safety was taken seriously and thankfully no one else has died in an F1 car since. |
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Well it was a sad loss for sure and to be honest the safest thing about the movie was watching he progress and show his incredible talent and amazing career only to know the outcome. Depressing for sure. |
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"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.
I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.
Unfortunately, it took the death of a high profile driver like Senna to introduce the safety devices they have now, notably the HANS device they wear to stop whiplash, that was a direct result of Imola as it was a broken neck and head trauma that killed him.
Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer
he was driving for the williams team, apparently the car had dodgy welding done to the steering colomn which the colomn eventually snapped and senna lost control at high speed, crashed and his head went into the broken steering colomn which he died of a result of serious head injuries, the race should of been cancelled after ratzenbergers death as a mark of respect i think" the steering failure was a result ofthe ccrash. The modified steering column had been xrayed prior to fitting as all parts that are welded are. It was cold tyres due to the safty car the car bottomed out on the plank so the stearing didn't work as the front tyres didn't have enough of a contact patch. This is the findings of the fia. But never told in the film such I think is very unfair to williams |
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Oh and I will never forget that breath taking race at Monaco when he raced against mansell so close to the end and they both where so exhausted they could barely walk after lol pure focus on both parts |
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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head
It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact." I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip |
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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head
It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip"
I believe you if you say do delight. I don't confess to being knowledgable to that extent . I like to remember the great races he was a part of that entertained the world |
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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head
It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip"
I'm sure Sid Watkins says clearly on the documentary that there wasn't a mark on Senna's body. How would that be possible if the wishbone pierced his helmet? |
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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head
It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip
I'm sure Sid Watkins says clearly on the documentary that there wasn't a mark on Senna's body. How would that be possible if the wishbone pierced his helmet?"
I retract that, I just checked Wiki, you are correct Part of the wishbone penetrated his visor. |
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He was one of a kind but I think his death was inevitable. He took to many risks. One thing that the doc doesn't saywas qwispy at magny cours. I forget the year. Anyway he was little shy of pole but saw the timing line was just after the last corner. So he deliberately took the last corner to fast knowing he would crash. But he got pole. |
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He was with out dought a genius tho. Just very flored. Shumacher already had the measure or him. He was of the old school. If he was alive today he would be remembered today as good in his time but not the god he us made out to be |
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"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet
no that's Niki Lauda, just had film made about him, called Rush. Xx
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I already worked that out and commented further up |
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There's some great footage in the end credits. Like when he stops his car to help after an accident.
He was a great driver and a great person (unless your name was Alain Prost...lol). |
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Apparently there's the actual onboard footage of the actual crash on UTUBE - personally, I couldn't possibly watch it; but other people can..........we're all different, I know, but that definitely got the waterworks going - I freely admit |
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"Oh and I will never forget that breath taking race at Monaco when he raced against mansell so close to the end and they both where so exhausted they could barely walk after lol pure focus on both parts "
Im sure that was the race where the power steering on Senna's car had failed on lap 4? I think and he did the entire race on brute force and couldnt get out of the car at the end cos his arm, forearm, back and shoulder muscles had seized and cramped |
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"Apparently there's the actual onboard footage of the actual crash on UTUBE - personally, I couldn't possibly watch it; but other people can..........we're all different, I know, but that definitely got the waterworks going - I freely admit "
I found the areal footage to be more disturbing. You can see him twitching in the car before the medical crews get to him. |
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"Apparently there's the actual onboard footage of the actual crash on UTUBE - personally, I couldn't possibly watch it; but other people can..........we're all different, I know, but that definitely got the waterworks going - I freely admit
I found the areal footage to be more disturbing. You can see him twitching in the car before the medical crews get to him."
i find the change in alain prost fascinating and the behind the scenes politics amazing. |
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"Apparently there's the actual onboard footage of the actual crash on UTUBE - personally, I couldn't possibly watch it; but other people can..........we're all different, I know, but that definitely got the waterworks going - I freely admit
I found the areal footage to be more disturbing. You can see him twitching in the car before the medical crews get to him.
i find the change in alain prost fascinating and the behind the scenes politics amazing."
Prost was a crybaby when things weren't going his way and he knew he had the ear of the FIA president (Balistre). But, although he and Senna didn't like eachother on the track I think there was a huge respect for one another. They were both old school racing drivers and champions, Senna was perhaps the better driver but Prost was better at playing the political game. |
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