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Where did sti's originate?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So, how did the first person to have an STI catch it?
Sorry, random thread! Just curious after having the same conclusion-less (new word!) discussion at work....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I read somewhere that the people who prepared and embalmed mummy's back in ancient times weren't allowed to mix with other people.
It is said that they used to practice necrophilia and that this is where it all started.
If they had kept this practice within their own social group then perhaps the disease wouldn't have spread, but somewhere along the way some of them must have had sex with other people and so it let it loose among the general population.
This might be total bollocks, and it probably is, but it sounds feasible to me ..... well it does after a few bevvies  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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HIV/AIDS was originally a blood disease passed on through infected cuts when Africans were hunting monkeys and hacking them up for whatever reasons they did.
Monkeys in Africa arent to be fucked with, as anybody who's ever heard of the Ebola virus, for instance, will know.
Then the brighty whiteys went over there during the good old empire days raping everything they could put slave shackles on and that didn't help matters either.
If there's anything can be said for where STI's came from, it came from stupidity, perversion, rape and bloodshed |
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"HIV/AIDS was originally a blood disease passed on through infected cuts when Africans were hunting monkeys and hacking them up for whatever reasons they did.
Monkeys in Africa arent to be fucked with, as anybody who's ever heard of the Ebola virus, for instance, will know.
Then the brighty whiteys went over there during the good old empire days raping everything they could put slave shackles on and that didn't help matters either.
If there's anything can be said for where STI's came from, it came from stupidity, perversion, rape and bloodshed"
Wow ok....  |
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"I would like know how anyone could shag a monkey?? Vicious little fuckers they are. Or were they dead!  "
Not sure but in the Victorian era they used to use monkey bollocks and put them into men's bollocks |
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By (user no longer on site)
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They all come from the same place as the common cold. Evolution applies to bacteria an viruses as much probably more than it does to mammals fish birds and reptiles. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would like know how anyone could shag a monkey?? Vicious little fuckers they are. Or were they dead!
Not sure but in the Victorian era they used to use monkey bollocks and put them into men's bollocks "
ewww why? Is the only question that springs to mind |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would like know how anyone could shag a monkey?? Vicious little fuckers they are. Or were they dead! "
It came from non-human primates how is unclear but it could have been through eating raw meat and having bleeding gums as easily as the hunters fucking primates. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"HIV/AIDS was originally a blood disease passed on through infected cuts when Africans were hunting monkeys and hacking them up for whatever reasons they did.
Monkeys in Africa arent to be fucked with, as anybody who's ever heard of the Ebola virus, for instance, will know.
Then the brighty whiteys went over there during the good old empire days raping everything they could put slave shackles on and that didn't help matters either.
If there's anything can be said for where STI's came from, it came from stupidity, perversion, rape and bloodshed"
 I think they used to "hack them up" to eat them.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"HIV/AIDS was originally a blood disease passed on through infected cuts when Africans were hunting monkeys and hacking them up for whatever reasons they did.
Monkeys in Africa arent to be fucked with, as anybody who's ever heard of the Ebola virus, for instance, will know.
Then the brighty whiteys went over there during the good old empire days raping everything they could put slave shackles on and that didn't help matters either.
If there's anything can be said for where STI's came from, it came from stupidity, perversion, rape and bloodshed"
thing is about siv in apes is that it doesn't cause their immune system to shut down,they live with it,it just passes on to other contacts,I wonder if in the past it did cause a full blown aids disease and only the individuals who had natural immunity to the virus survived and passed that immunity on to their offspring,if so same may happen with us and HIV in a few hundred generations? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Interestingly Longleat Safari Park occasionally have closed their monkey enclosures due to a HIV infection outbreak. It's a blood disease, so can spread like wildfire very quickly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They all come from the same place as the common cold. Evolution applies to bacteria an viruses as much probably more than it does to mammals fish birds and reptiles. "
^THIS
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By (user no longer on site)
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"HIV/AIDS was originally a blood disease passed on through infected cuts when Africans were hunting monkeys and hacking them up for whatever reasons they did.
Monkeys in Africa arent to be fucked with, as anybody who's ever heard of the Ebola virus, for instance, will know.
Then the brighty whiteys went over there during the good old empire days raping everything they could put slave shackles on and that didn't help matters either.
If there's anything can be said for where STI's came from, it came from stupidity, perversion, rape and bloodshed
thing is about siv in apes is that it doesn't cause their immune system to shut down,they live with it,it just passes on to other contacts,I wonder if in the past it did cause a full blown aids disease and only the individuals who had natural immunity to the virus survived and passed that immunity on to their offspring,if so same may happen with us and HIV in a few hundred generations?"
Isn't that exactly what is happening right now in Africa? It's natural selection, only the strongest survive and the disease is passed from generation to generation. I can guarantee if one of us was plonked out there and lived their lives day to day, we wouldn't last a year...! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Without going into details and at the risk of being shot down, I believe HIV to be a man made virus . Tested in 3rd world countries , as if the poor souls don't have it bad enough 
Lynn |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would like know how anyone could shag a monkey?? Vicious little fuckers they are. Or were they dead!
It came from non-human primates how is unclear but it could have been through eating raw meat and having bleeding gums as easily as the hunters fucking primates. "
I can't see them fucking monkeys when there are goats about |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would like know how anyone could shag a monkey?? Vicious little fuckers they are. Or were they dead!
It came from non-human primates how is unclear but it could have been through eating raw meat and having bleeding gums as easily as the hunters fucking primates.
I can't see them fucking monkeys when there are goats about "
They may well have there are few goats in the jungle but we will never really know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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thing is about siv in apes is that it doesn't cause their immune system to shut down,they live with it,it just passes on to other contacts,I wonder if in the past it did cause a full blown aids disease and only the individuals who had natural immunity to the virus survived and passed that immunity on to their offspring,if so same may happen with us and HIV in a few hundred generations?"
That's right, they're just carriers. And then we have to take into consideration that so many diseases werent discovered until we had to tech to find them properly and even then, AIDS and HIV are already a global pandemic. Its true.
Its an STI and it's also passed from human to human by accidents, by violence and by drug users sharing needles.
AIDS could still end up being our very own modern day pneumonic plague or something similar, providing it mutated beyond the grasp of modern medicine. |
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"Without going into details and at the risk of being shot down, I believe HIV to be a man made virus . Tested in 3rd world countries , as if the poor souls don't have it bad enough
Lynn"
It's been around for hundreds of years so I doubt that but genetic wise it's a close gene of SIV which is found in monkeys |
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By (user no longer on site)
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thing is about siv in apes is that it doesn't cause their immune system to shut down,they live with it,it just passes on to other contacts,I wonder if in the past it did cause a full blown aids disease and only the individuals who had natural immunity to the virus survived and passed that immunity on to their offspring,if so same may happen with us and HIV in a few hundred generations?
That's right, they're just carriers. And then we have to take into consideration that so many diseases werent discovered until we had to tech to find them properly and even then, AIDS and HIV are already a global pandemic. Its true.
Its an STI and it's also passed from human to human by accidents, by violence and by drug users sharing needles.
AIDS could still end up being our very own modern day pneumonic plague or something similar, providing it mutated beyond the grasp of modern medicine."
thing is in the past almost every disease they didn't understand that killed folk was labelled as "consumption" which covered things like TB,Cancer and who knows possibly aids? it could have been around in small numbers for centuries
As for being man made,there were rumours it was started by the Vietcong who infected the prostitutes who in turn infected US gi's ,but that was discounted pretty early on after the virus(es) were isolated and identified |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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Without answering the question (as I can't) my main worry is there will never be a cure. Not because the research, technology or funding does not exist,.. it does.
MY worry is the people that run the money behind the medical/chemical firms behind the research (the cure) will think to themselves "Why make a cure with a one-off payday, when you can create/sell medicine that lets people 'manage' their lives with the illness.. and they keep paying you for the rest of their lives?"
Cynical, I know.. but not untrue. |
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"I would like know how anyone could shag a monkey?? Vicious little fuckers they are. Or were they dead!
It came from non-human primates how is unclear but it could have been through eating raw meat and having bleeding gums as easily as the hunters fucking primates.
I can't see them fucking monkeys when there are goats about "
I know ! A monkey isn't as easy to hold onto as a goat and those bleats! Just like a woman in ecstacy ......  |
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"So, how did the first person to have an STI catch it?
Sorry, random thread! Just curious after having the same conclusion-less (new word!) discussion at work.... "
I'd have thought it was obvious.....
It comes from apples ! simples |
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Bacteria and viruses mutate or 'evolve' and from one non damaging bacterium or virus, you get one that does damage so as it is thought mutations happen because of radiation and most of ours comes from the sun, then the answer is the sun. |
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"Bacteria and viruses mutate or 'evolve' and from one non damaging bacterium or virus, you get one that does damage so as it is thought mutations happen because of radiation and most of ours comes from the sun, then the answer is the sun."
Fuck me....... If it's not the Mail it's the Sun .... |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
"Bacteria and viruses mutate or 'evolve' and from one non damaging bacterium or virus, you get one that does damage so as it is thought mutations happen because of radiation and most of ours comes from the sun, then the answer is the sun.
Fuck me....... If it's not the Mail it's the Sun ...."
Oh I saw the best video about the Mail being ripped apart by some guy on Prime Minister's Question time.. I laughed out loud! |
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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago
not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds) |
My ex wifes got an sti,,,,
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She got it after the divorce,, I really liked that Subaru car,  |
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"HIV/AIDS was originally a blood disease passed on through infected cuts when Africans were hunting monkeys and hacking them up for whatever reasons they did.
Monkeys in Africa arent to be fucked with, as anybody who's ever heard of the Ebola virus, for instance, will know.
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HIV is a haemo-virus as is Ebola and when compared to Ebola it really is a bit of a whimp!  |
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"Without answering the question (as I can't) my main worry is there will never be a cure. Not because the research, technology or funding does not exist,.. it does.
MY worry is the people that run the money behind the medical/chemical firms behind the research (the cure) will think to themselves "Why make a cure with a one-off payday, when you can create/sell medicine that lets people 'manage' their lives with the illness.. and they keep paying you for the rest of their lives?"
Cynical, I know.. but not untrue."
It's a bit like Cancer Research finding a cure for cancer.
"Sir, sir, I've found a cure for cancer"
BANG
"Miss Jones, call the clear up team, we've got another one that wanted to take our salaries and company cars off us" |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"So, how did the first person to have an STI catch it?
Sorry, random thread! Just curious after having the same conclusion-less (new word!) discussion at work....
I'd have thought it was obvious.....
It comes from apples ! simples"
I thought it was god blaming Adam, Adam blaming Eve and Eve blaming the snake. The snake doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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