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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So yet again folk are being hit by the latest above inflation price increases from at the moment sse have announced average increase of 8.2%.
Others no doubt will follow suit shortly. Cameron just shrugs his shoulders saying folk should shop around instead of actually targeting the energy companies.
Whether you believe labours energy freeze proposal is gimmicky or not is a side issue the fact is something has to be done and if a gimmick results in making my life easier then i am more than happy.
For years energy companies have failed to pass on cuts when wholesale gas price drops. They quote the wholesale cost when trying to justify increases yet not suprisingly do not mention owt when price drops. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is just greed, the energy companies are making record profits yet aren't investing it in ensuring that they aren't having to warn of power shortages.
Sadly, not a lot we can do to fight back other than trying to cut down on how much we use. I know of people who already get into bed at 8/9pm or sit on the sofa under a duvet during the winter to avoid having the heating on too long, some because they can't afford it and others because they don't want to line to pockets of the rich. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Best of it is wholesale prices are the lowest they've been since 2008 i think was quoted! so why the increase for us? Like what has already been said "just pure greed" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It is just greed, the energy companies are making record profits yet aren't investing it in ensuring that they aren't having to warn of power shortages.
Sadly, not a lot we can do to fight back other than trying to cut down on how much we use. I know of people who already get into bed at 8/9pm or sit on the sofa under a duvet during the winter to avoid having the heating on too long, some because they can't afford it and others because they don't want to line to pockets of the rich."
This all the way, nicely said |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the
power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it"
Sorry but disagreeing on this taxes are rightly levied but even after taking all this into account record profits are made by the companies so the tax complaint rings a bit hollow to me.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've always made sure to dress warm indoors rather than burn up the fuel, be sparing with electricity, hot water and such. Exercise regularly to keep my circulation going and try to get out more to acclimatise rather than hide away...
All this energy saving shit we've bought into, from energy saving bulbs and standby sensors, better insulation and glazing.
The companies need to back you into a corner to keep their profits up and to keep you needing more.
Same tactics as any aggressive marketing company. It's not just profit, it's competition and the sharks don't like losing out to the plankton. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the
power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it
Sorry but disagreeing on this taxes are rightly levied but even after taking all this into account record profits are made by the companies so the tax complaint rings a bit hollow to me.
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What do you mean by rightly levied? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the
power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it
Sorry but disagreeing on this taxes are rightly levied but even after taking all this into account record profits are made by the companies so the tax complaint rings a bit hollow to me.
What do you mean by rightly levied?"
By rightly levied why should they not be taxed? |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
The tax take is approx six times as much as the profits made!
The government is forcing energy companies to collect tax for the government - and then the govt stands back and lets the power companies take the blame from the public.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
Write to your MP to complain about fuel bills - he or she is the one responsible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the
power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it
Sorry but disagreeing on this taxes are rightly levied but even after taking all this into account record profits are made by the companies so the tax complaint rings a bit hollow to me.
What do you mean by rightly levied?"
I'll guess that he means that we're being given the incentive not to waste, which is partly the cause of higher prices; supply and demand.
Of course, a household can't waste the same amount as a corporate chain that just keeps the midnight oils to make record profits also. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the
power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it
Sorry but disagreeing on this taxes are rightly levied but even after taking all this into account record profits are made by the companies so the tax complaint rings a bit hollow to me.
What do you mean by rightly levied?
By rightly levied why should they not be taxed?"
I misunderstood me thinks  |
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The UKs energy generation capacity has shrunk in real terms over the past few years. It's basic economics that less of something means it costs more.
If you could only blow up one balloon a day, but market demand is for one and a half then despite the fact your raw ingredient is effectively free (fresh air), the price of balloons will rise.
If you want cheaper energy, you need more power stations that don't burn gas.
Meanwhile there are more windmills than ever. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it"
actually it isn't as much as 30%....
vat accounts for about 5%
and yes.. green taxes with regards to government policy accounts for about 10% |
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it
actually it isn't as much as 30%....
vat accounts for about 5%
and yes.. green taxes with regards to government policy accounts for about 10%"
But also, the commitment to the EU carbon schemes has meant a lot of coal-fired power stations are being closed before their useful life expires. Someone has to pay for that.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The UKs energy generation capacity has shrunk in real terms over the past few years. It's basic economics that less of something means it costs more.
If you could only blow up one balloon a day, but market demand is for one and a half then despite the fact your raw ingredient is effectively free (fresh air), the price of balloons will rise.
If you want cheaper energy, you need more power stations that don't burn gas.
Meanwhile there are more windmills than ever."
GENIUS! THAT'S BRILLIANT, AND I GOT A PLAN!
If less costs more, let's have MORE MPS's between october and april, and make them blow MORE hot air at us from Parliament. It will be so warm in winter, you'd be goin to work in your bills!  |
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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago
Leeds. |
"The tax take is approx six times as much as the profits made!
The government is forcing energy companies to collect tax for the government - and then the govt stands back and lets the power companies take the blame from the public.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
Write to your MP to complain about fuel bills - he or she is the one responsible."
Agreed. The higher the cost the higher the bills. The higher the bills the higher the tax take. Does anyone really think our greedy corrupt government are going to fight against all the lovely extra revenue the price hikes provide for them ? Of course not. They will just lap it all up while placing the blame firmly with others.
Nothing new there then...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The tax take is approx six times as much as the profits made!
The government is forcing energy companies to collect tax for the government - and then the govt stands back and lets the power companies take the blame from the public.
It's the oldest trick in the book.
Write to your MP to complain about fuel bills - he or she is the one responsible.
Agreed. The higher the cost the higher the bills. The higher the bills the higher the tax take. Does anyone really think our greedy corrupt government are going to fight against all the lovely extra revenue the price hikes provide for them ? Of course not. They will just lap it all up while placing the blame firmly with others.
Nothing new there then......"
I have so much debt, I can start my own government.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If, as Tory MPs insist, price freezes on leccy are a waste of time - why are so many of them wandering about with steam coming out of every orifice at this price hike?"
 dont forget to feel sorry for cameron and co though because they keep saying we are all in it together. Yeh right. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"If, as Tory MPs insist, price freezes on leccy are a waste of time - why are so many of them wandering about with steam coming out of every orifice at this price hike?
dont forget to feel sorry for cameron and co though because they keep saying we are all in it together. Yeh right."
Cameron doesn't use much leccy. He has an AGA burning peasants found wandering on his estate. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If, as Tory MPs insist, price freezes on leccy are a waste of time - why are so many of them wandering about with steam coming out of every orifice at this price hike?
dont forget to feel sorry for cameron and co though because they keep saying we are all in it together. Yeh right.
Cameron doesn't use much leccy. He has an AGA burning peasants found wandering on his estate."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If, as Tory MPs insist, price freezes on leccy are a waste of time - why are so many of them wandering about with steam coming out of every orifice at this price hike?
dont forget to feel sorry for cameron and co though because they keep saying we are all in it together. Yeh right."
You do have to feel for all our MPs.
Going to take ages, to recalculate all those expense claims,due to the price hike.
Plus all the extra cost of paying for someone to check they haven't over charge the government by doing so.
Not cheap keeping 2 homes going with price rises like this you know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's a bit more to it than that.
Taxes and 'green charges' and carbon charges now add 30% to household fuel bills.
All the major parties are behind these sky-high bills - but they try to deflect the blame onto the power companies.
We shouldnt fall for it"
I work in the energy industry. Energy costs are not rising but the non energy costs are, especially green taxation, which as you say accounts for about 30% of your bill.
It makes me laugh with Milibands rhetoric, because he is the fucktard who created this tax under the last Labour government.
So when you get your next bill or hear about old people dying because they cant turn on their heating, just remember one of the main reasons is the party of the people and their quest to build non efficient windmills!
Things will be worse before long as no government for years has committed to investment in the power industry. The cost of building power stations is astronomical and the power companies are expected to pay for them, but also keep prices down... that aint gonna happen. |
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