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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law" Oh I'm all for respecting people's laws but I think perhaps that is a little extreme.As for protecting your home...I think you shouldf be able to defend it without any possible prosecution.
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect lawOh I'm all for respecting people's laws but I think perhaps that is a little extreme.As for protecting your home...I think you shouldf be able to defend it without any possible prosecution. "
my theory is ANYONE who enters my home without invite(especially at sillyOclock hours), may essentially want to cause me harm...so they can take what I give them...simple as |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go"
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !! |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !!"
I bet you expect everyone to respect your values |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !!
I bet you expect everyone to respect your values"
Not at all mate, I just respect people who have the courage to challenge rules . |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !!
I bet you expect everyone to respect your values
Not at all mate, I just respect people who have the courage to challenge rules ."
So when people break the law here they are just challenging rules? |
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law
Did someone mention that they're glad that they live in the free world? Please let me know where you live!! "
The free world?,no such place apart from in disney cartoons!. |
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my theory is ANYONE who enters my home without invite(especially at sillyOclock hours), may essentially want to cause me harm...so they can take what I give them...simple as"
does your theory hold out to people entering your country without an invite?,co's there are an awful lot of uninvited guests my friend!. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did someone mention that they're glad that they live in the free world? Please let me know where you live!! "
This sentiment is similar to what my first thought was upon reading the OP's post.
It seems the irony of people on here criticising 'silly' modesty laws, most of whom are too afraid to openly show face pics because the lack of social acceptance of swinging in our 'free western society' drives them to feel the need to try and protect their privacy, is lost.
There might be a difference of degrees, but the issue is the still the same. |
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect lawOh I'm all for respecting people's laws but I think perhaps that is a little extreme.As for protecting your home...I think you shouldf be able to defend it without any possible prosecution. "
I hold this subject, the same as when a male tells me I have beautiful daughters
I have a gun, a shovel and an aliby |
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect lawOh I'm all for respecting people's laws but I think perhaps that is a little extreme.As for protecting your home...I think you shouldf be able to defend it without any possible prosecution.
I hold this subject, the same as when a male tells me I have beautiful daughters
I have a gun, a shovel and an aliby" I assume that's a joke and not a serious comment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So, the bankers gamble all our money away then we have to pay to fill the void & go into recession, lose jobs, homes, livelihoods, have family break-ups, & in some cases, because of NHS cuts inevitably, it costs our lives, but it's okay because none of these bankers are jailed, they keep their outrageous salaries & bonuses, & if you earn more than 150k, you get to pay 5% less tax - on top of what you avoided paying in the first place!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh, I too am sssssoooooooooo glad that I live in the 'free west'; "Democracy, Liberty & freedom is where it's at man!!" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !!
I bet you expect everyone to respect your values
Not at all mate, I just respect people who have the courage to challenge rules .
So when people break the law here they are just challenging rules?"
In some cases yes.
Twice a year we challenge certain laws by joining a thousand or so naked people and ride around London and Brighton .
There, stick that in your pipe and smoke it, whilst being careful of smoking laws , my subservient friend. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You challenge the law by joining an organised event that would have had to have got permission from the police to take place.
Oooohhhhh such a webel "
Would you do it ?.
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"You challenge the law by joining an organised event that would have had to have got permission from the police to take place.
Oooohhhhh such a webel
Would you do it ?.
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I dint ride bikes dressed so No. If I got the cycling bug then maybe. I have a friend that goes to most of them. |
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"A couple in Morocco have been detained and are due in court for posting a pic of them kissing on Facebook.What a lovely society they have.Thank God I live in the free West."
When you want to take your family out on a Saturday night and you are dodging puking bints, brawling dickheads and streams of piss flowing from doorways.... Morocco seems bliss. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go"
Exactly, just like all foreign nationals do when visiting Britain |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !!
I bet you expect everyone to respect your values
Not at all mate, I just respect people who have the courage to challenge rules .
So when people break the law here they are just challenging rules?
In some cases yes.
Twice a year we challenge certain laws by joining a thousand or so naked people and ride around London and Brighton .
There, stick that in your pipe and smoke it, whilst being careful of smoking laws , my subservient friend."
Certain laws in a certain context - comfortable that you won't be arrested and in numbers. Don't assume I don't challenge the law or practice - I just choose different methods. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You challenge the law by joining an organised event that would have had to have got permission from the police to take place.
Oooohhhhh such a webel
Would you do it ?.
I dint ride bikes dressed so No. If I got the cycling bug then maybe. I have a friend that goes to most of them. "
Thank you .
The Naked Bikes are , for our part, our chance to challenge the right to be nude in public , don't even start getting Mrs J going about men showing nipples in public and women not allowed .
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have been laid here mulling over this conversation and it occurred to me that it's a bit odd being castigated on here of all places for admiring people who push boundaries or break laws that deny freedom of expression or will and everyone else here is chatting about dogging, bi and homosexuality and swinging ( a form of adultery ).
Is some less enlightened societies you would at least find yourself and your co-conspirator in jeopardy or basically dead .
So a big up for everyone who got us this privilidge , as they say , "you don't miss what you have got until it has gone " |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You challenge the law by joining an organised event that would have had to have got permission from the police to take place.
Oooohhhhh such a webel
Would you do it ?.
I dint ride bikes dressed so No. If I got the cycling bug then maybe. I have a friend that goes to most of them.
Thank you .
The Naked Bikes are , for our part, our chance to challenge the right to be nude in public , don't even start getting Mrs J going about men showing nipples in public and women not allowed .
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Why would you want to be nude in public if you know it causes offence to some people ? |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"Did someone mention that they're glad that they live in the free world? Please let me know where you live!!
This sentiment is similar to what my first thought was upon reading the OP's post.
It seems the irony of people on here criticising 'silly' modesty laws, most of whom are too afraid to openly show face pics because the lack of social acceptance of swinging in our 'free western society' drives them to feel the need to try and protect their privacy, is lost.
There might be a difference of degrees, but the issue is the still the same." You don't know why people hide their face pics. You make a big assumption there. |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
over a year ago
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"So, the bankers gamble all our money away then we have to pay to fill the void & go into recession, lose jobs, homes, livelihoods, have family break-ups, & in some cases, because of NHS cuts inevitably, it costs our lives, but it's okay because none of these bankers are jailed, they keep their outrageous salaries & bonuses, & if you earn more than 150k, you get to pay 5% less tax - on top of what you avoided paying in the first place!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh, I too am sssssoooooooooo glad that I live in the 'free west'; "Democracy, Liberty & freedom is where it's at man!!" " Oh dear. In a non free country you would be arrested for posting that. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law"
Me and my Mum are there in February, so don't you go trying to foment revolution before we get there. |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
over a year ago
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't goso why doesn't that work in the UK" Because for some reason we have lots of self loathing twats here who do nothing but slate their own country but automatically defend all other cultures.God knows why. It's a form of masochism I think.
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Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
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By *obbyggg OP Man
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
" Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace. |
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace."
Have you ever been there? |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace.
Have you ever been there?" o I haven't but if you read the British Govt website and the American Govt website tourist websites that is the advice they give.I think they might just have a better idea than 2 tourists' experience don't you? |
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law
Did someone mention that they're glad that they live in the free world? Please let me know where you live!! "
Obviously not in the EUSSR |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
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"I'm glad I live where I won't get arrested for posting pictures of me kissing someone, however, I'm aware that some countries have strict modesty laws (whether I agree with them or not) and will make sure when I visit them (going to Morocco for Xmas) I respect local laws. Probably some folk might think that a country where a homeowner could be arrested for defending their house from thieves and potentially be prosecuted may not be the ideal example of perfect law
Did someone mention that they're glad that they live in the free world? Please let me know where you live!!
Obviously not in the EUSSR " In the West you can post this without fear of arrest. Try it in other countries.See what happens. Then tell me which societies are freer(if such a word exists) but you get my drift I hope. |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
so why doesn't that work in the UK
We have values??? " yes we do. We don't allow the stoning of women for a start. You want a list? Not enough room on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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my theory is ANYONE who enters my home without invite(especially at sillyOclock hours), may essentially want to cause me harm...so they can take what I give them...simple as
does your theory hold out to people entering your country without an invite?,co's there are an awful lot of uninvited guests my friend!. "
there are no boundaries in the world, I can visit/live anywhere I want..it might be illegal yes, but it does not mean I'm wishing people harm does it?
theres alot of 'uninvited' people indigenous to this country quite willingly taking money from the system and actually have no problem admitting they would not ever ever EVER work |
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace.
Have you ever been there?o I haven't but if you read the British Govt website and the American Govt website tourist websites that is the advice they give.I think they might just have a better idea than 2 tourists' experience don't you?"
Oh my mistake you spoke like you had first hand knowledge...
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace.
Have you ever been there?"
I have, quite a few times and can see both sides of the story.
If I was talking about Casablanca I would agree with the first poster. I always felt safe and liked the (by North African standards) the cosmopolitan feel of the place, although "Ricks Bar" at the Hilton (if I remember rightly) hotel was a bit of a let down.
Tangier was a totally different place, especially in the old Kasbah. Spent a whole day running the gauntlet of aggressive beggars, what seemed like five hundred potential tour guides, and an army of young kids trying to flog us handbags, non of which would ever take NO for an answer. I have to admit though that in both places we never heard of anybody getting robbed. |
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace.
Have you ever been there?o I haven't but if you read the British Govt website and the American Govt website tourist websites that is the advice they give.I think they might just have a better idea than 2 tourists' experience don't you?
Oh my mistake you spoke like you had first hand knowledge...
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Have been there a few times and have noticed a increase in begging and the selling of drugs ( or attempt to ) but on the whole pretty safe |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So when people break the law here they are just challenging rules?"
It wasn't so long ago that being homosexual was illegal in this country.
Some laws are intrusive into peoples personal lives.
Obviously people are not suggesting breaking the rules/laws on murder etc etc but some laws do need to be, and should be, challenged. |
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By *obbyggg OP Man
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"Actually it is to young teenagers and it is a juvenile court. I have no idea of the likely punishment but suspect that it will be nothing overly shocking.
I have been to Morocco several times and traveled there extensively - it is an amazing country with some of the friendliest people I have ever met. It is also incredibly safe. Crime rates are incredibly low and crime against tourists is virtually unheard of. I have wondered way of the tourist trail and been in what are some less than desirable suburbs and never felt in danger. It is also arguably the most progressive Islamic country in the world. There are bars, alcohol is on sale and if you know where to look you can even find gay bars. But that said away from the main tourist towns it is still very traditional, it is easier to introduce a partner as your wife as people are genuinely confused that people aren't married and public displays of affection beyond holding hands will certainly offend the older members of society.
Violent crime certainly is low(not sure what the punishments are so if they are harsh that may be the reason) but pickpocketing and aggressive begging are very commonplace.
Have you ever been there?o I haven't but if you read the British Govt website and the American Govt website tourist websites that is the advice they give.I think they might just have a better idea than 2 tourists' experience don't you?
Oh my mistake you spoke like you had first hand knowledge...
" I think the respective Gov't websites have more knowledge than an occasional tourist don't you? |
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"Each culture has its own values. The individuals know this. When visiting other countries one should respect their customs or don't go
That sounds a bit draconian .
Stupid rules are there to be challenged and no society is closed now due to mobile phones , computers and the internet .
So they see the rest of the world having fun and want to join in so they stretch the boundaries of their repressive society .
Echoes of the breakdown of the eastern block their .
Go for it Morrocans rah rah !!
I bet you expect everyone to respect your values"
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I think the respective Gov't websites have more knowledge than an occasional tourist don't you? "
not sure I would give too much credibility to only what HMG say, they have a track record of saying to us what they want..
dodgy dossier ring any bells..?
not been there yet but when we do I wont go solely by the 'advice' of HMG..
a mixed bag of relevant travel forums and word of mouth and yes also see what the FCO say seems a better way..
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By *obbyggg OP Man
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I think the respective Gov't websites have more knowledge than an occasional tourist don't you?
not sure I would give too much credibility to only what HMG say, they have a track record of saying to us what they want..
dodgy dossier ring any bells..?
not been there yet but when we do I wont go solely by the 'advice' of HMG..
a mixed bag of relevant travel forums and word of mouth and yes also see what the FCO say seems a better way..
" fair point. I usually have a look at the "rough guide" and other relevant sites. |
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