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Bring back National Service
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"SEnd out £300 quid tax demands to every home in the country , and all numpties under age 23 should do 5 years " as long as it doesnt come in before september then, im all for it  | |||
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"Should force everyone to do 5 years national service as soon as they turned 18....could fund it by selling off the NHS into private hands and by increasing all business, capital gains, income road and petrol tax. The ghurka's could all pitch tents on our common land which they'd share with any service personell from other Commonwealth countries. Of course, we'd charge them rent for the pitches etc. To encourage all our charming young folk to get into the spirit of it all the uniform for the first year could be Burberry.....so once they're all chavved up with a weapon in their hands they'd think they were back at home "Now thats funny but i would hate to think of some of the lost causes hanging around being our last line of defence lol | |||
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"any uk resident over school leaving age would be given a choice. Join the armed services or take a job. There is no dole for able bodied people. Any immigrants would swear alliegance to UK and accept new life rules/laws. Dont like that, then go home. Simples. " Seconded sounds like a good idea. Who would drink cider in the parks in the summer though then? | |||
"any uk resident over school leaving age would be given a choice. Join the armed services or take a job. There is no dole for able bodied people. Any immigrants would swear alliegance to UK and accept new life rules/laws. Dont like that, then go home. Simples. Seconded sounds like a good idea. Who would drink cider in the parks in the summer though then?" Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee   | |||
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"any uk resident over school leaving age would be given a choice. Join the armed services or take a job. There is no dole for able bodied people. Any immigrants would swear alliegance to UK and accept new life rules/laws. Dont like that, then go home. Simples. Seconded sounds like a good idea. Who would drink cider in the parks in the summer though then? Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee "you would have to drink a lot if you lived round here as they go through cases of it in the summer lol | |||
"National Service is a nice concept but sadly, apart from clearing the streets of feral youths it would be anything but a service to the Nation. We in the military currently have way too few assets, both personnel and equipment wise so we would simply not have the infrastructure or manpower available to train the youth of today. Even if we did what would anyone see them being employed as? No regular serviceman/woman in their right mind would want any "pressed man" protecting his 6 as at the first sigh of adversity they would probably piss themselves and cry for their mums. Rather than have them marching up and down achieving fuck all I would sooner we had every able bodied dole collector out litter picking, gardening for the elderly, cleaning up graffiti etc etc. Never going to happen I know but there are so many ways people could be made to earn their benefits if only those in power had the "spuds" to put those sort of hard rules in place. Sadly though because of "elf and safety" there is more chance of me becoming Pope "What I was thinking but couldn't quite articulate!!  | |||
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"We dont need armed conscripts We do need a conscripted national aid force. Young people trained to man green goddess fire engines which can be used to pump water out of flooded areas Young people who can be taught first aid to a high standard to assist in emergencies like floods or earthquakes (yes we in Britain now have earthquakes we could have a big one one day) Young people trained in Mountain Rescue Young people trained in evacuation procedures Young people trained to control emergency situations, the people who need to get emergency lighting to a certain place, arrange heavy lift or heavy digging equipment, arrange emergency water supplies from another town or county. Young people trained to care for animals caught up in an emergency situation. The organisations can be run on a military styling but where the funding will come from you need someone with a brain to work that one out not me "I would agree with most of this, don't give them a gun but getting them doing something positive for everyone. | |||
"Most here are missing the point of national service as our parents knew it. We had just had a second world war and were having the cold war.It was designed to give us an army that we could call upon if we went back to war.Rationing had only just ended for many of what we call staples but were luxuries then. Yes bring it back at 18 for all.Stay in for 18 months or two years.The biggest thing that it would do is break up all the little gangs of youth that plague most towns and cities. It would also teach a sense of self worth to most and self reliance and install discipline.Sadley missing from most. Just think all this youth that are used to doing what they like with little or no fear of the police,suddenly find themselves in tent city or barracks with 60 others in their platoon and they step out of line.Eveyone gets punished.Yes funny the first couple of times but soon it gets very annoying. Also you don`do it with your mates you have 59 other people from all over. When you go back after yes your mates are still there but hopefully you`ve all grown up. And how many would stay as might give them a family that they don`t have at home. " well said. i thought i was living in victor meldrew land for a minute
Remember all the conscripts in ww2 were national service and the post war conscripts did honourable service many laying down there lives for our country in combat operations, including the Malayan emergency, and the Korean War where conscripts to the Gloucestershire Regiment took part in the last stand during the Battle of the Imjin River.
They took part in the Cyprus emergency, and in Kenya against the Mau Mau Uprising.Talk of not trusting them is potentially condeming a generation
Re the youth on street corners ..what else is there for em to do, if we provide services for em to get through the dangerous teenage years ,we all moan about the council taxes going up.
There is good an bad in all barrels but to suggest all people without jobs or
kids with nothing to do are bad, is a bit like breaking a butterfly on a wheel
I for one wont condemn the kids of today,the majority of em are ok and going through puberty in a different world to us ...remember if we were caught scrumping,climbing a tree or having a scrap it was a kick up the arse and that was the end of it ...now its a dna swab and on the offenders register,thats without the example set by violence in films and on TV and games machines and lyrics in music putting the american east coast ,west coast gang culture right in there ears .
i wish we had national service to give the poor bastards somthing to do what dont cost the earth,its a shame though in an era of cutbacks even the existing Air training corp and army and navy youth "encouragement" services are contracting. | |||
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"Totally agree bring back national service. If young thugs want to fight and attack with knives then insted of sending them to young offenders let them fight for the country give them respect and a back bone." Well at the very least they'll be trained to use the knife properly and defend themselves better. | |||
"Totally agree bring back national service. If young thugs want to fight and attack with knives then insted of sending them to young offenders let them fight for the country give them respect and a back bone. Well at the very least they'll be trained to use the knife properly and defend themselves better." Love it! watch out troops armed with knifes and forks | |||
"nope, not s good idea. why make our forces full of the scum that hang about inthe streets and in the police cells at the weekend? do you allwant them to serve abroad representing YOU?? i have spent 5 years in the forces and i am going back to do more, the last thing id want when on operations overseas is a waste of space hardman with a rifle and a bad attitude standing beside me! The funny thing is that when we get poeople screaming for national service, its always aimed at ages below thiers....ie 24 year olds saying it should be 18-23 etc the idea of posible life skill boot camps would be better,the idea of the bad lads army tv show sort of thing, but its a stupid idea to want to send the scum of this country overseas "Ok ,, maybe not overseas ,,, just to Wales ,,, that would sort them out ,,,,,,,,,, | |||
"We dont need armed conscripts We do need a conscripted national aid force. Young people trained to man green goddess fire engines which can be used to pump water out of flooded areas Young people who can be taught first aid to a high standard to assist in emergencies like floods or earthquakes (yes we in Britain now have earthquakes we could have a big one one day) Young people trained in Mountain Rescue Young people trained in evacuation procedures Young people trained to control emergency situations, the people who need to get emergency lighting to a certain place, arrange heavy lift or heavy digging equipment, arrange emergency water supplies from another town or county. Young people trained to care for animals caught up in an emergency situation. The organisations can be run on a military styling but where the funding will come from you need someone with a brain to work that one out not me "Put a tax on plasma tv sets ,,, we could set the tax at variying levels , those in paid employment ,, lets say %1 above list price ,,unemployed 2 years or less ,,% 50 above list price ,, over two years ,,,,,%95 above list price and remove the jeremy kyle function ,,, oh ,,and sterilisation for any adult (sic) with one or more dependant sprogs | |||
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