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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry, but I'll not be watching ....
He'd had more chances and opportunities than thousands of other alcoholics  "
That's true, I wont be watching either, these type of programmes can be so invasive. Difficult to see anyone's life being ribbed apart for entertainment, no matter now deserving or undeserving we feel about them, at the end of the day he is a person with big problems and I wish him and those like him the very best |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry, but I'll not be watching ....
He'd had more chances and opportunities than thousands of other alcoholics "
that's true, however even famous people are still only human |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Yes maybe he has, but as I'm no alcoholic,I for 1 ain't got a clue what the answer is for him and for others like him,and I'm sure all those in the same boat as Paul have tried many a Time to stop, however even if it stops 1 person watching this program tonight from going down the same route it would be worth televising this program |
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The only person that can help him is himself...he has had the best therapy and support money could but....however he has yet to overcome his demons....it's a sad state of affairs and I really think he needs to stay out of the spotlight and concentrate on his recovery as he is not exactly a success story and there are thounds of success stories that are left unspoken....instead we have gazza..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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when you read his autobiography you can see the reason he is the way he is
he is unfortunatley one of many ex sportsmen who are facing demons whether its is drink drugs gambling etc
its difficult because we were all happy when was a clown and scored against the Scots and re enacted the dentist chair however the demons he has now he had them back then.
i like others in this forum will know someone with addiction issues i for one felt guilty when a former rugby team mate had a problem with drink because drinking was the natural order and the done thing to do and we were unwittingly feeding his addiction
whether your feeling towards gazza are ones of sympathy or you couldn't care less about him all i know is that it is one more human being that is hurting inside and for him the only solution is the bottle
he can however only help himself
you can take a horse to water etc
there but for the grace of god go i.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The only person that can help him is himself...he has had the best therapy and support money could but....however he has yet to overcome his demons....it's a sad state of affairs and I really think he needs to stay out of the spotlight and concentrate on his recovery as he is not exactly a success story and there are thounds of success stories that are left unspoken....instead we have gazza....."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I personally dont understand how he couldn't compare himself to George Best and then try to separate himself from that and get as far away as possible.
There's so much he could do to help himself that your average broken alcoholic wouldn't get a chance at and yet he just keeps on and feels sorry for himself.
I just hope that if there's a liver failure and some sick little kid is top of the list that he doesn't end up with it so he can piss that away too. |
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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago
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Cry for an idjit that had help handed on a plate and paid for.. then threw it back in the faces of those who tried to support him in his "recovery"
Sorry but no from me. There are more honest people that need help and have to struggle every day without the help he has had........ |
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Inter_iew will proberly be in a pub and then off to a curry house.
When you have problems in life you have to own up to them and make an effort to help yourself....Gazza didnt do that but lots of other people did to help him.
I will be watching something else. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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While i disapprove the way he treated his ex wife as a football point of _iew he will remain one of my favourite players ever to wear the Rangers jersey.
A club legend and hero of mine.
I wish him the best of luck fighting his demons. |
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"very good programme
his problems are far deeper than drink that is just the vehicle he uses.
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indeed .. thoroughly enjoyed it also .. its probably a good thing that he does not live in Newcastle anymore as he is such a legend up there .. I fear people would ..misguidedly .. buy him drinks non stop. Nice to see that he is reunited with his exwife and children and all the efforts he makes to help people who suffer the same affliction as he has  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Very sad.
I can't see him ever recovering.
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i fear that is the case also like he intimated himself the only time he will ever be from the pain (guilt) is when he dies
it sounded like he was talking about suicide
it was good to see his friends and family supporting him and how much the people still love him
i know one thing he can come and clean my house anyway his penthouse was stunning and so bloody clean  |
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lol jigsaw ..it does seem that every aspect of his life ...addiction of some form takes over ...nice that he still maintains his sense of humour and can laugh about it also |
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lol jigsaw ..it does seem that every aspect of his life ...addiction of some form takes over ...nice that he still maintains his sense of humour and can laugh about it also "
very true he is obsessed in everything he does and he takes everything to the extreme
his appearance may have changed but underneath he is the same down to earth self deprecating working class fella who made good.
stay clear of the botox though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly"."
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it "
And I will bump thread to give it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it And I will bump thread to give it."
sorry i never understood what bump means |
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By *andWCouple
over a year ago
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"Sorry, but I'll not be watching ....
He'd had more chances and opportunities than thousands of other alcoholics
That's true, I wont be watching either, these type of programmes can be so invasive. Difficult to see anyone's life being ribbed apart for entertainment, no matter now deserving or undeserving we feel about them, at the end of the day he is a person with big problems and I wish him and those like him the very best"
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it And I will bump thread to give it.
sorry i never understood what bump means "
It means if the thread drops into the abyss I will post on to give my opinion, therefore it will be back ont top like...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it And I will bump thread to give it.
sorry i never understood what bump means It means if the thread drops into the abyss I will post on to give my opinion, therefore it will be back ont top like... "
awww did you her that then it was like kerplunk
thanks for explaining |
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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it And I will bump thread to give it."
Did he expand on beating his wife up? Do you touchy feelies think about her? Do you actually think he's ok to do that? Bloody Hell,sympathisers with a man who hits women!!! Are you sure? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it And I will bump thread to give it.Did he expand on beating his wife up? Do you touchy feelies think about her? Do you actually think he's ok to do that? Bloody Hell,sympathisers with a man who hits women!!! Are you sure? "
Your pushing the boat out to get attention whats a forum equivalent of a shock jock? |
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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago
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"I will watch this when I can concentrate on it.
it was a good honest programme Thought it might be, the reason why I want to watch it "properly".
be nice to her your opinion when you have watched it And I will bump thread to give it.Did he expand on beating his wife up? Do you touchy feelies think about her? Do you actually think he's ok to do that? Bloody Hell,sympathisers with a man who hits women!!! Are you sure?
Your pushing the boat out to get attention whats a forum equivalent of a shock jock?"
Why do you think that? He did it didn't he? Aren't we allowed to put our opinions on here? Actually,what I wrote is factual. Is that wrong? |
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"Just finished watching it. It's just sad.
Don't think people will ever understand addiction. "
if you have an addiction you grasp why you have that addiction and what emotions you feel the highs and lows but you never truly understand why you have that addiction....I guess i am one of the lucky ones that kicked their demons in the balls.... |
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over a year ago
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"Just finished watching it. It's just sad.
Don't think people will ever understand addiction.
if you have an addiction you grasp why you have that addiction and what emotions you feel the highs and lows but you never truly understand why you have that addiction....I guess i am one of the lucky ones that kicked their demons in the balls...."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am sorry but all this talk of demons is a load of rubbish, everybody has suffered something which upsets them and don't form an addiction, addicts are selfish people with no thoughts to the people they say they love, he had the world at his feet and threw it all away by been a selfish self absorbed prick who believed everything that was wrote about him, if he truly wanted to stop drinking for himself he would,
And yes I have suffered/do suffer from an addiction, so that is from experience |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am sorry but all this talk of demons is a load of rubbish, everybody has suffered something which upsets them and don't form an addiction, addicts are selfish people with no thoughts to the people they say they love, he had the world at his feet and threw it all away by been a selfish self absorbed prick who believed everything that was wrote about him, if he truly wanted to stop drinking for himself he would,
And yes I have suffered/do suffer from an addiction, so that is from experience"
I have had drink problems and come from a family with several alcoholics. It was watching my mothers behaviour that snapped me out of it and made me seek help. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am sorry but all this talk of demons is a load of rubbish, everybody has suffered something which upsets them and don't form an addiction, addicts are selfish people with no thoughts to the people they say they love, he had the world at his feet and threw it all away by been a selfish self absorbed prick who believed everything that was wrote about him, if he truly wanted to stop drinking for himself he would,
And yes I have suffered/do suffer from an addiction, so that is from experience
I have had drink problems and come from a family with several alcoholics. It was watching my mothers behaviour that snapped me out of it and made me seek help."
Congratulations, controlling an addiction is a very hard thing to do, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am sorry but all this talk of demons is a load of rubbish, everybody has suffered something which upsets them and don't form an addiction, addicts are selfish people with no thoughts to the people they say they love, he had the world at his feet and threw it all away by been a selfish self absorbed prick who believed everything that was wrote about him, if he truly wanted to stop drinking for himself he would,
And yes I have suffered/do suffer from an addiction, so that is from experience
I have had drink problems and come from a family with several alcoholics. It was watching my mothers behaviour that snapped me out of it and made me seek help.
Congratulations, controlling an addiction is a very hard thing to do, "
congratulations to both of you for facing up to and dealing with your addictions on a daily basis
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am sorry but all this talk of demons is a load of rubbish, everybody has suffered something which upsets them and don't form an addiction, addicts are selfish people with no thoughts to the people they say they love, he had the world at his feet and threw it all away by been a selfish self absorbed prick who believed everything that was wrote about him, if he truly wanted to stop drinking for himself he would,
And yes I have suffered/do suffer from an addiction, so that is from experience
I have had drink problems and come from a family with several alcoholics. It was watching my mothers behaviour that snapped me out of it and made me seek help.
Congratulations, controlling an addiction is a very hard thing to do,
congratulations to both of you for facing up to and dealing with your addictions on a daily basis
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Second that.
Interesting _iews from people who suffered/suffering addiction. |
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I ain't going to go through the ins and outs of my addiction but to me it was my demon. ...it ruined my life and I have not one person to blame apart from myself...I think we all interpret addiction in different ways and i interpret it as my demon.... |
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Watched it and felt very sad. An ill educated lad totally unprepared for the big city and all the trappings of his career. Ill advised by people who saw him as a cash cow, who, when it was all over dropped him like a stone. Nothing could replace playing the game for him, with clear addictive tendancies, alcohol was his crutch and changed him as it does into someone who is violent and self destructive. It was heartwarming to see his friends and family ( who he lavished gifts on ) as well as his children, step children and ex-wife clearly loving him. He was and having seen the program, forgive me the pun: like a child in a sweet shop. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I ain't going to go through the ins and outs of my addiction but to me it was my demon. ...it ruined my life and I have not one person to blame apart from myself...I think we all interpret addiction in different ways and i interpret it as my demon...."
This I understand that you can say your addiction as a demon because it takes over your life,, my point is people who say they have demons therefore that is why the have these addiction, to say gazza demons that's why he drinks is in my _iew giving him a cop out and making it so he doesn't have to face up to his problem which is he drinks, he drinks because he likes to drink nobody made him drink, and I agree addiction is nobodies fault but the addicted |
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"Watched it and felt very sad. An ill educated lad totally unprepared for the big city and all the trappings of his career. Ill advised by people who saw him as a cash cow, who, when it was all over dropped him like a stone. Nothing could replace playing the game for him, with clear addictive tendancies, alcohol was his crutch and changed him as it does into someone who is violent and self destructive. It was heartwarming to see his friends and family ( who he lavished gifts on ) as well as his children, step children and ex-wife clearly loving him. He was and having seen the program, forgive me the pun: like a child in a sweet shop. "
I am sorry but he was already an alcoholic and beating his wife long before he retired from football, |
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my mum stopped talking to me for ages because i threw her support and love in her face....gazza is doing the same and there is only so much support you can give before having to think fuck it and walk away... |
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over a year ago
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"my mum stopped talking to me for ages because i threw her support and love in her face....gazza is doing the same and there is only so much support you can give before having to think fuck it and walk away..."
we hurt the ones we love the most
before someone accuses me of condoning his actions towards his ex wife for the record the woman he kept beating up (sheryl) and his step daughter (bianca) and son (Regan) are all behind him giving him all the love and support in the world
if they can forgive him then why can't others.
he has multiple addictions not just alcohol.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dead within a year! Harsh but true. He has had an enormous amount of help but his addictions are so strong that the inevitable can't be far off. Great shame. |
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"Watched it and felt very sad. An ill educated lad totally unprepared for the big city and all the trappings of his career. Ill advised by people who saw him as a cash cow, who, when it was all over dropped him like a stone. Nothing could replace playing the game for him, with clear addictive tendancies, alcohol was his crutch and changed him as it does into someone who is violent and self destructive. It was heartwarming to see his friends and family ( who he lavished gifts on ) as well as his children, step children and ex-wife clearly loving him. He was and having seen the program, forgive me the pun: like a child in a sweet shop.
I am sorry but he was already an alcoholic and beating his wife long before he retired from football,"
Absolutely and totally despicable, which we said when we watched it last night. His ex kicked him out, clearly is very fond of the sober Paul, but knows the demons inside him when he is on the drink. |
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I think that people have different ways of dealing with demons ... as children me and my brothers and sisters were all abused (not sexually ) by our mother all have us have dealt with it in different ways my sister cant cope with it and has took it with her into her adult life ... I have a mantra I live by ....the past is the past and cant be changed but the future is mine to make what I want with it .
Everbody has different coping mechanisms and we shouldn't judge people for how they cope with their demons xxx tab xx |
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"I think that people have different ways of dealing with demons ... as children me and my brothers and sisters were all abused (not sexually ) by our mother all have us have dealt with it in different ways my sister cant cope with it and has took it with her into her adult life ... I have a mantra I live by ....the past is the past and cant be changed but the future is mine to make what I want with it .
Everbody has different coping mechanisms and we shouldn't judge people for how they cope with their demons xxx tab xx "
But the issue is becoming a addict isn't dealing with anything it's burying your head in the sand and failing to deal with the past, it is a cowards way of dealing with things, this or that happened to me so I'll get pissed or become a smack head and not deal with what went on, people are always looking for excuses and easy ways out rather than just dealing with stuff, yes it's tough but anything worth doing is tough |
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I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now? 
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction. |
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"I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now?
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction. "
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"I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now?
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction. "
Same here but the guy wasn't the brightest button in the box and he has some big issues he can't get to grips with. He might be one guy who would have had a far better life without the fame just another guy in the factory. |
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"I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now?
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction.
Same here but the guy wasn't the brightest button in the box and he has some big issues he can't get to grips with. He might be one guy who would have had a far better life without the fame just another guy in the factory. "
He needs the fame, if he hadn't of been a footballer it would of been something else, he is a very insecure man and needs the attention and the affection of the public |
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"I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now?
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction.
Same here but the guy wasn't the brightest button in the box and he has some big issues he can't get to grips with. He might be one guy who would have had a far better life without the fame just another guy in the factory. "
Yep your right not the brightest button in the box, however he had one gift most can only dream of and that he was a gifted football who should have never gone to the bright lights of London and instead gone to the dull lights of Manchester, I think Sir Alex would have kept him under control and we would be seeing a diff Paul today |
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over a year ago
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"I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now?
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction.
Same here but the guy wasn't the brightest button in the box and he has some big issues he can't get to grips with. He might be one guy who would have had a far better life without the fame just another guy in the factory.
Yep your right not the brightest button in the box, however he had one gift most can only dream of and that he was a gifted football who should have never gone to the bright lights of London and instead gone to the dull lights of Manchester, I think Sir Alex would have kept him under control and we would be seeing a diff Paul today"
Walter Smith protected him a lot at Ibrox as well |
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"I thought it was touching that his ex-team mates still playing rallied to help him. Especially when his other "friends" f**ked off. Didn't see anyone telling him stop when he was buying rounds and showing people a good time.
From the programme, I saw that he's a very generous person and love to buy things for people. Think how different things might have been if a few of those people told him to take it easy or "let's go home, Gazza". Where are they now?
It's good to see his ex-wife, children and his family are still in his corner. Genuine people who genuinely care about his well-being despite his flaws and addiction.
Same here but the guy wasn't the brightest button in the box and he has some big issues he can't get to grips with. He might be one guy who would have had a far better life without the fame just another guy in the factory. "
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"I think that people have different ways of dealing with demons ... as children me and my brothers and sisters were all abused (not sexually ) by our mother all have us have dealt with it in different ways my sister cant cope with it and has took it with her into her adult life ... I have a mantra I live by ....the past is the past and cant be changed but the future is mine to make what I want with it .
Everbody has different coping mechanisms and we shouldn't judge people for how they cope with their demons xxx tab xx
But the issue is becoming a addict isn't dealing with anything it's burying your head in the sand and failing to deal with the past, it is a cowards way of dealing with things, this or that happened to me so I'll get pissed or become a smack head and not deal with what went on, people are always looking for excuses and easy ways out rather than just dealing with stuff, yes it's tough but anything worth doing is tough"
I totally agree with you .. but some of us are stronger than others and able to deal with our problems while others, like you say turn to addiction because they are not strong enough to deal with the issue .... we are all different xx |
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"I think that people have different ways of dealing with demons ... as children me and my brothers and sisters were all abused (not sexually ) by our mother all have us have dealt with it in different ways my sister cant cope with it and has took it with her into her adult life ... I have a mantra I live by ....the past is the past and cant be changed but the future is mine to make what I want with it .
Everbody has different coping mechanisms and we shouldn't judge people for how they cope with their demons xxx tab xx
But the issue is becoming a addict isn't dealing with anything it's burying your head in the sand and failing to deal with the past, it is a cowards way of dealing with things, this or that happened to me so I'll get pissed or become a smack head and not deal with what went on, people are always looking for excuses and easy ways out rather than just dealing with stuff, yes it's tough but anything worth doing is tough
I totally agree with you .. but some of us are stronger than others and able to deal with our problems while others, like you say turn to addiction because they are not strong enough to deal with the issue .... we are all different xx "
Yes we are all different and deal with things differently, but what we can't do is give people excuses to continue on the same path of destruction, |
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I won't be wasting time watching it. He's a wife-beating alcoholic who's a complete waste of space. He's beyond any help.
He'll end up just like George Best. A d*unken waster who'll drink himself to death. And, being the hypocrites some people are, he will probably get a heroes' funeral. |
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I mean, what did that wanker think he was doing when he turned up at Raoul Moat's hide-away when he was surrounded by police, with a box of KFC and a fishing rod, shouting out "Hey Moaty - it's your mate Gazza"?
What a c*nt. |
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"I think that people have different ways of dealing with demons ... as children me and my brothers and sisters were all abused (not sexually ) by our mother all have us have dealt with it in different ways my sister cant cope with it and has took it with her into her adult life ... I have a mantra I live by ....the past is the past and cant be changed but the future is mine to make what I want with it .
Everbody has different coping mechanisms and we shouldn't judge people for how they cope with their demons xxx tab xx
But the issue is becoming a addict isn't dealing with anything it's burying your head in the sand and failing to deal with the past, it is a cowards way of dealing with things, this or that happened to me so I'll get pissed or become a smack head and not deal with what went on, people are always looking for excuses and easy ways out rather than just dealing with stuff, yes it's tough but anything worth doing is tough
I totally agree with you .. but some of us are stronger than others and able to deal with our problems while others, like you say turn to addiction because they are not strong enough to deal with the issue .... we are all different xx
Yes we are all different and deal with things differently, but what we can't do is give people excuses to continue on the same path of destruction, "
I'm not making excuses as addictions will always be a personal thing but most people need support.
But it's clear that support is needed at some level and he wasn't getting at the point when it was really need. We're all talking about the time when the real damage has already been done. We'll hang him with his issues now that he's no good to us like the times when he was loaded.
We don't talk about those times because we were all "having fun" right? |
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Everyone wants to buy him a drink which isn't helping him at all!
I watched it and thought it was a really good programme, what a total waste of talent because of his addictive personality |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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He's exactly what the gutter press love. A mug who needs them as much as they need him.
They pay him for stories about drying out and spends the money getting pished. His few remaining pals buy him a week in rehab and the press give him more dosh for the story.
He pishes that against the wall and so it continues till he, the 'product' dies, at which point it becomes everyone's fault but Fleet Street's. |
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"His real friends were the ones that paid for the rehab, the footballers,
His other so called friends just used him to get them and him d*unk...."
I'm not saying that he can't help himself. I'm just saying that there's a lot of influences that didn't help and contributed to his downward spiral.
They enjoyed their fill and are getting on with their lives. |
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"His real friends were the ones that paid for the rehab, the footballers,
His other so called friends just used him to get them and him d*unk....
I'm not saying that he can't help himself. I'm just saying that there's a lot of influences that didn't help and contributed to his downward spiral.
They enjoyed their fill and are getting on with their lives. "
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By *andWCouple
over a year ago
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Judge judge judge, it upsets me that we can be so critical of someone's life when it really affects none of us. The guy has issues, that's very clear, none of us know what they are, yet we are all happy to imagine what they could be. It's the Jeremy Kyle era, lets laugh and judge those who are vulnerable |
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"From reading this thread, anyone would think that some had no flaws at all...interesting reading. I still haven't watched it, but will.
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From the attitudes shown, we're all perfect. 
I'm not saying the guy's an angel but we all have our flaws. |
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over a year ago
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"From reading this thread, anyone would think that some had no flaws at all...interesting reading. I still haven't watched it, but will.
From the attitudes shown, we're all perfect.
I'm not saying the guy's an angel but we all have our flaws. "
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"From reading this thread, anyone would think that some had no flaws at all...interesting reading. I still haven't watched it, but will.
From the attitudes shown, we're all perfect.
I'm not saying the guy's an angel but we all have our flaws. Exactly. "
exactly i didn't realise there were so many perfect people in the world but what does surprise me is how many of them are on this site.
the programme didn't make him to be some hero for me it just captured a man who knows he as major underlying issues and alcohol is the chosen vehicle of expression.
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The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself, |
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"The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself, "
I'm not making excuses for him as we're all responsible for our actions. Him for his addictions and his "friends" for not stepping in when they should. It's not their fault so they can walk away. They didn't encourage him to behave the way he did but they didn't stop him either.
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Never saw the programme as I wouldn't be interested in this waste of space. But just wondering, amongst his addictions did they mention his wife beating addiction or was that one avoided. Oh and by the way no I'm not perfect. Carl. |
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"Never saw the programme as I wouldn't be interested in this waste of space. But just wondering, amongst his addictions did they mention his wife beating addiction or was that one avoided. Oh and by the way no I'm not perfect. Carl."
i suggest you watch thread programme Carl and look how the wife he beat up and his step daughter and his son Regan have shown forgiveness and love and are amongst his family in the north east are helping him.
by the way im not condoning what he as done however it seems strange to me that the people he has hurt the most (apart from himself) have forgiven him and trying to get on with their lives yet people who he has never hurt seem determined to string him up.
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"The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself, "
he has to help himself first |
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"The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself,
I'm not making excuses for him as we're all responsible for our actions. Him for his addictions and his "friends" for not stepping in when they should. It's not their fault so they can walk away. They didn't encourage him to behave the way he did but they didn't stop him either.
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It's not other people's responsibility to control his drinking, people may of used him for his money and gone along for the ride and dumped when the money went but that doesn't mean it's there job to stop his drinking, and has you have seen if you watch the programme many people have tried to intervene and help and it does no good because he doesn't want to stop, |
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"The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself,
I'm not making excuses for him as we're all responsible for our actions. Him for his addictions and his "friends" for not stepping in when they should. It's not their fault so they can walk away. They didn't encourage him to behave the way he did but they didn't stop him either.
It's not other people's responsibility to control his drinking, people may of used him for his money and gone along for the ride and dumped when the money went but that doesn't mean it's there job to stop his drinking, and has you have seen if you watch the programme many people have tried to intervene and help and Itdoes no good because he doesn't want to stop, "
i agree he has to do it for himself with strong support structure in place
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"Never saw the programme as I wouldn't be interested in this waste of space. But just wondering, amongst his addictions did they mention his wife beating addiction or was that one avoided. Oh and by the way no I'm not perfect. Carl.
i suggest you watch thread programme Carl and look how the wife he beat up and his step daughter and his son Regan have shown forgiveness and love and are amongst his family in the north east are helping him.
by the way im not condoning what he as done however it seems strange to me that the people he has hurt the most (apart from himself) have forgiven him and trying to get on with their lives yet people who he has never hurt seem determined to string him up.
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Thanks for the advice but I have no intention of watching the programme. I would rather watch a turd float by. He is just one of a long line of alcoholics who does nothing to help himself. What's so special about him? As regards his wife he beat up. It was not just a one off. People like that I have no sympathy for as they waller in their own self pity. Sorry just my personal opinion |
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"Never saw the programme as I wouldn't be interested in this waste of space. But just wondering, amongst his addictions did they mention his wife beating addiction or was that one avoided. Oh and by the way no I'm not perfect. Carl.
i suggest you watch thread programme Carl and look how the wife he beat up and his step daughter and his son Regan have shown forgiveness and love and are amongst his family in the north east are helping him.
by the way im not condoning what he as done however it seems strange to me that the people he has hurt the most (apart from himself) have forgiven him and trying to get on with their lives yet people who he has never hurt seem determined to string him up.
Thanks for the advice but I have no intention of watching the programme. I would rather watch a turd float by. He is just one of a long line of alcoholics who does nothing to help himself. What's so special about him? As regards his wife he beat up. It was not just a one off. People like that I have no sympathy for as they waller in their own self pity. Sorry just my personal opinion"
its ok im not trying to force my will on anyone
to quote the film platoon
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"The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself,
I'm not making excuses for him as we're all responsible for our actions. Him for his addictions and his "friends" for not stepping in when they should. It's not their fault so they can walk away. They didn't encourage him to behave the way he did but they didn't stop him either.
It's not other people's responsibility to control his drinking, people may of used him for his money and gone along for the ride and dumped when the money went but that doesn't mean it's there job to stop his drinking, and has you have seen if you watch the programme many people have tried to intervene and help and Itdoes no good because he doesn't want to stop,
i agree he has to do it for himself with strong support structure in place
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"The thing is he doesn't know he has major underlying issues, he even says in the programme he doesn't know why he drinks he just does,
I'm not judging him as I've said in another post I have/do suffer from an addiction, people making excuses for him and blaming his friends for using him are just fuel to his fire, until the day he can stop been gazza and start to be Paul he will keep relapsing because he isn't trying to stop for himself,
I'm not making excuses for him as we're all responsible for our actions. Him for his addictions and his "friends" for not stepping in when they should. It's not their fault so they can walk away. They didn't encourage him to behave the way he did but they didn't stop him either.
It's not other people's responsibility to control his drinking, people may of used him for his money and gone along for the ride and dumped when the money went but that doesn't mean it's there job to stop his drinking, and has you have seen if you watch the programme many people have tried to intervene and help and Itdoes no good because he doesn't want to stop,
i agree he has to do it for himself with strong support structure in place
We all need support
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"Never saw the programme as I wouldn't be interested in this waste of space. But just wondering, amongst his addictions did they mention his wife beating addiction or was that one avoided. Oh and by the way no I'm not perfect. Carl.
i suggest you watch thread programme Carl and look how the wife he beat up and his step daughter and his son Regan have shown forgiveness and love and are amongst his family in the north east are helping him.
by the way im not condoning what he as done however it seems strange to me that the people he has hurt the most (apart from himself) have forgiven him and trying to get on with their lives yet people who he has never hurt seem determined to string him up.
Thanks for the advice but I have no intention of watching the programme. I would rather watch a turd float by. He is just one of a long line of alcoholics who does nothing to help himself. What's so special about him? As regards his wife he beat up. It was not just a one off. People like that I have no sympathy for as they waller in their own self pity. Sorry just my personal opinion
its ok im not trying to force my will on anyone
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over a year ago
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I see he now reckons he "was targeted by hackers who drained his bank account of up to £50,000, according to reports.
Gascoigne, 46, who has been battling alcoholism for years, said the thieves made 23 withdrawals in just two days.
Speaking outside his Bournemouth home, he said he had been "bled dry", first claiming he knew who was responsible before admitting he did not understand how it had happened."
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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I have just watched this programme, what a broken man, the drink has destroyed him. It could happen to any of us. I remember him in his hey day, a truly fantastic footballer to watch. I hope he wins his battle, I really do, for himself and his family, but as with many alcoholics he is taking it one day at a time. Good Luck Gazza. |
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"I see he now reckons he "was targeted by hackers who drained his bank account of up to £50,000, according to reports.
Gascoigne, 46, who has been battling alcoholism for years, said the thieves made 23 withdrawals in just two days.
Speaking outside his Bournemouth home, he said he had been "bled dry", first claiming he knew who was responsible before admitting he did not understand how it had happened."
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Probably peanuts compared to the amount that his so called "mates" bled him dry for when he was a successful footballer.
It was so sad to hear him reveal that all those so called friends were not that after all. Long gone!
Fair play to Jimmy five bellies as he is known, he has stuck with him through thick and thin.
Good luck Gazza. |
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