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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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My car died today and its going to cost me £500 to have it repaired. Its only 8 years old but it cost me £500 last year too. So I think its time to buy a new or relatively new car. I dont do a lot of mileage, max 5k a year, if that. Do any of you have any suggestions/recommendations please? |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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I've got a Yaris, it is as reliable as clockwork, costs next to nothing to run and I don't intend to take up delivering Grand Pianos for a living. Not with these hands. You could do worse than to get one.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I've got a Yaris, it is as reliable as clockwork, costs next to nothing to run and I don't intend to take up delivering Grand Pianos for a living. Not with these hands. You could do worse than to get one. "
That's what I fancy. Do you mind me asking how much it was? |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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That's what I fancy. Do you mind me asking how much it was?"
Not in the least, it cost 5K, but was a year old. I've had it 8 years now and I think if I'd got an older model, I would probably have been no worse off, as it is just so lovely. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Honda Jazz is super good and so cheap to run. it cost me £2000
Go japanese, they are super reliable!"
Yes I'm definitely thinking Japanese is the way forward |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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That's what I fancy. Do you mind me asking how much it was?
Not in the least, it cost 5K, but was a year old. I've had it 8 years now and I think if I'd got an older model, I would probably have been no worse off, as it is just so lovely. "
That's really helpful, thank you x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Honda Jazz is super good and so cheap to run. it cost me £2000
Go japanese, they are super reliable!
Yes I'm definitely thinking Japanese is the way forward "
Yes it definately is, my friends all have Japanese, with one exception and he is the only one of us who ever has car trouble! What do you have at the moment? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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im looking at a 1.5 clio diesel (probably a few years old, thinking about 02/03)
can get one for a little over £2k at that age, 70mpg without trying
£30 a year tax
cheap insurance
engines are very good in them. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Honda Jazz is super good and so cheap to run. it cost me £2000
Go japanese, they are super reliable!
Yes I'm definitely thinking Japanese is the way forward
Yes it definately is, my friends all have Japanese, with one exception and he is the only one of us who ever has car trouble! What do you have at the moment?"
Peugeot 206 at the moment. I was also looking at Ford but not sure. I have no interest in cars, don't care what it looks like, I just want it to be reliable and cheap. I didn't realise until today that you only pay £20 per year road tax on some! X |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honda Jazz is super good and so cheap to run. it cost me £2000
Go japanese, they are super reliable!
Yes I'm definitely thinking Japanese is the way forward
Yes it definately is, my friends all have Japanese, with one exception and he is the only one of us who ever has car trouble! What do you have at the moment?
Peugeot 206 at the moment. I was also looking at Ford but not sure. I have no interest in cars, don't care what it looks like, I just want it to be reliable and cheap. I didn't realise until today that you only pay £20 per year road tax on some! X"
Hehehe just so long as it gets you a to b then :P. Well if you like you can mail me, completely non sexually, just to help you out as I love buying cars and looking at cars. We can find you a good one im sure!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the just fuel offers about new car every three years.
Not heard of that, I will google it. Thanks"
Just googled it and it seems only to apply to Peugeots? I don't really want another Peugeot but thank you for your suggestion x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"im looking at a 1.5 clio diesel (probably a few years old, thinking about 02/03)
can get one for a little over £2k at that age, 70mpg without trying
£30 a year tax
cheap insurance
engines are very good in them."
Was going to suggest one of these. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the just fuel offers about new car every three years.
Not heard of that, I will google it. Thanks"
Check the big dealerships as most offer something similar. Leasing is the new in thing. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the just fuel offers about new car every three years.
Not heard of that, I will google it. Thanks
Check the big dealerships as most offer something similar. Leasing is the new in thing. "
I enquirer about leasing today and was really put off. The car has to be returned in mint condition otherwise you have to pay for the repairs. Don't think any car will be mint after 3 years. Thanks for suggestion though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've got a kia and it's been very reliable
My mom suggested this"
Something like this is good value, if your rying to keep costs down
http://www.motors.co.uk/car-33349654/sp |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Another vote for the Yaris. I have the mark 2 version with a 1 litre engine. Its comfortable, reliable, roomy, looks good and is very economical, I average 57-60 mpg however I would suggest a slightly larger engine would be better as the mileage drops when I go on motorways. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Another vote for the Yaris. I have the mark 2 version with a 1 litre engine. Its comfortable, reliable, roomy, looks good and is very economical, I average 57-60 mpg however I would suggest a slightly larger engine would be better as the mileage drops when I go on motorways."
So do you think 1.2 is enough. I probably go on the motorway about half a dozen times a year. What age would you recommend?x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another vote for the Yaris. I have the mark 2 version with a 1 litre engine. Its comfortable, reliable, roomy, looks good and is very economical, I average 57-60 mpg however I would suggest a slightly larger engine would be better as the mileage drops when I go on motorways.
So do you think 1.2 is enough. I probably go on the motorway about half a dozen times a year. What age would you recommend?x"
still say a mid sized engine diesel is the best way forward for you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another vote for the Yaris. I have the mark 2 version with a 1 litre engine. Its comfortable, reliable, roomy, looks good and is very economical, I average 57-60 mpg however I would suggest a slightly larger engine would be better as the mileage drops when I go on motorways.
So do you think 1.2 is enough. I probably go on the motorway about half a dozen times a year. What age would you recommend?x"
Thats fine for the motorway! you really dont need much umph and not worth you paying extra for what you wont use
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've got a kia and it's been very reliable
My mom suggested this
Something like this is good value, if your rying to keep costs down
http://www.motors.co.uk/car-33349654/sp"
Thank you. My phone is pants and I can't copy and paste links x |
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"My car died today and its going to cost me £500 to have it repaired. Its only 8 years old but it cost me £500 last year too. So I think its time to buy a new or relatively new car. I dont do a lot of mileage, max 5k a year, if that. Do any of you have any suggestions/recommendations please? "
go for an older BMW mine has 234k on the clock and starts 1st time every time BMW's are company cars so they have a full service history with them
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"My car died today and its going to cost me £500 to have it repaired. Its only 8 years old but it cost me £500 last year too. So I think its time to buy a new or relatively new car. I dont do a lot of mileage, max 5k a year, if that. Do any of you have any suggestions/recommendations please? go for an older BMW mine has 234k on the clock and starts 1st time every time BMW's are company cars so they have a full service history with them "
Thanks but I want a small car x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts."
Thank you. I didn't fancy a diesel anyway x |
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"My car died today and its going to cost me £500 to have it repaired. Its only 8 years old but it cost me £500 last year too. So I think its time to buy a new or relatively new car. I dont do a lot of mileage, max 5k a year, if that. Do any of you have any suggestions/recommendations please? go for an older BMW mine has 234k on the clock and starts 1st time every time BMW's are company cars so they have a full service history with them
Thanks but I want a small car x"
good luck in your your hunt for a new car  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts."
how so?
oil and filters cost the same as petrol.
have had my 75 diesel for nearly 12 months and have had no diesel related expenditure from it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"By a Series 2 Land Rover.. It will cost the same or less to buy. Tax free and will still be going in an other 40 years.... Oh and you won't get stuck in 1/2" of snow...  "
Small car??? |
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"By a Series 2 Land Rover.. It will cost the same or less to buy. Tax free and will still be going in an other 40 years.... Oh and you won't get stuck in 1/2" of snow...
Small car???"
A short wheel base... and square so easy to park especially if you've taken the roof off... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts.
how so?
oil and filters cost the same as petrol.
have had my 75 diesel for nearly 12 months and have had no diesel related expenditure from it."
Short runs and little high revs will kill a modern diesel engine.
The DPF will have to be changed due to it becoming blocked. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you're doing less than 12k miles a year and barely using the motorway avoid a diesel, as previously posted, you'll have mega problems with the DPF and EGR systems, resulting in huge repair bills.
The Toyota Yaris is an excellent choice but I'm going to throw a spanner in the works. Look at an Alfa MiTo their Twinair engines are super economical and free road tax, they also have plenty of poke when you need it and you also get Italian style.
Don't worry about reliability either as they're pretty much sorted as ling as you service them regularly and there's loads of good independent Alfa specialists around... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you're going Diesel, avoid a car with a DPF - Diesel Particulate Filter - which is possibly most Diesel cars made 2009 onwards. Or find a car what has had the bypass done on it and the DPF removed.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm finding this thread helpful. As I'm looking @ changing my car soon. I've been looking @ the mini copper sport 04/05. Not looked at the stats tho. "
Really ? How old is he and who's going to be paying his insurance ?  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"By a Series 2 Land Rover.. It will cost the same or less to buy. Tax free and will still be going in an other 40 years.... Oh and you won't get stuck in 1/2" of snow...
Small car???
A short wheel base... and square so easy to park especially if you've taken the roof off... "
That's not a daft idea if you look at lifetime cost of ownership. Just remember your modesty when climbing in and out in a skirt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whatever you do, don't but an Aston Martin - I've seen three of them dead on the roadside in the last 48 hours.
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Were they black and white ?
If they were, you're confusing them with badgers  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm finding this thread helpful. As I'm looking @ changing my car soon. I've been looking @ the mini copper sport 04/05. Not looked at the stats tho. "
Ditto !..very helpful thread indeed, ..good luck in your quest OP ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The fiat 500/lounge
Small car low emissions - no road tax
Runs almost on fresh air
Goes for miles n miles n miles on a teaspoon of fuel
I'm on my second one n will upgrade to another one next year
NICE array of colour choices tooo
AND
Young people consider them 'cool ' - one said to me it's like a modern version of the mini! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whatever you do, don't but an Aston Martin - I've seen three of them dead on the roadside in the last 48 hours.
Were they black and white ?
If they were, you're confusing them with badgers "
Silly me. Its so easy to confuse high end britsh penis extensions with expired wildlife when you're zipping past at 60 mph.
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Avoid French, they all go wrong at 50k!! Japanese is the way forward. With the mileage that you are doing, a 4-5 year old car with highish mileage maybe a plan. Suzuki have some cracking offers on, second hand Yaris' also are high on our list when we replace our second car. Good luck |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts.
how so?
oil and filters cost the same as petrol.
have had my 75 diesel for nearly 12 months and have had no diesel related expenditure from it.
Short runs and little high revs will kill a modern diesel engine.
The DPF will have to be changed due to it becoming blocked."
never stated modern diesel though, said an older one.
anyway, OP hasnt even mentioned a budget, so all these posts are moot if she only has £500 to spend lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts.
how so?
oil and filters cost the same as petrol.
have had my 75 diesel for nearly 12 months and have had no diesel related expenditure from it.
Short runs and little high revs will kill a modern diesel engine.
The DPF will have to be changed due to it becoming blocked.
never stated modern diesel though, said an older one.
anyway, OP hasnt even mentioned a budget, so all these posts are moot if she only has £500 to spend lol"
TRUE - but as we are all 'experts' we never like to overlook an opportunity to dive in with our splendid knowledge n advice - even if frequently we go off at a tangent lol   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts.
how so?
oil and filters cost the same as petrol.
have had my 75 diesel for nearly 12 months and have had no diesel related expenditure from it.
Short runs and little high revs will kill a modern diesel engine.
The DPF will have to be changed due to it becoming blocked.
never stated modern diesel though, said an older one.
anyway, OP hasnt even mentioned a budget, so all these posts are moot if she only has £500 to spend lol
TRUE - but as we are all 'experts' we never like to overlook an opportunity to dive in with our splendid knowledge n advice - even if frequently we go off at a tangent lol "
Thing is though, we don't have to be 'experts' a lot of the advice given is from peoples own experiences and you only need to google DPF fault or EGR fault and you'll see for yourself that nearly all modern turbo diesel cars suffer these two faults, even the ones given frequent motorway blasts.
My second car is a diesel and I had both within the first year of owning it, they were subsequently removed and the engine computer remapped at a fraction of the cost of replacing the parts. It may seem like a tangent but its sound advice and worth knowing when looking for a new car... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If your doing little motorway mileage,then avoid anything with a Diesel engine.
Your just going to cost yourself a fortune in parts.
how so?
oil and filters cost the same as petrol.
have had my 75 diesel for nearly 12 months and have had no diesel related expenditure from it.
Short runs and little high revs will kill a modern diesel engine.
The DPF will have to be changed due to it becoming blocked.
never stated modern diesel though, said an older one.
anyway, OP hasnt even mentioned a budget, so all these posts are moot if she only has £500 to spend lol
TRUE - but as we are all 'experts' we never like to overlook an opportunity to dive in with our splendid knowledge n advice - even if frequently we go off at a tangent lol
Thing is though, we don't have to be 'experts' a lot of the advice given is from peoples own experiences and you only need to google DPF fault or EGR fault and you'll see for yourself that nearly all modern turbo diesel cars suffer these two faults, even the ones given frequent motorway blasts.
My second car is a diesel and I had both within the first year of owning it, they were subsequently removed and the engine computer remapped at a fraction of the cost of replacing the parts. It may seem like a tangent but its sound advice and worth knowing when looking for a new car..."
Oops! My response was pretty much tongue in cheek flippancy as I was wandering thro the forums like I do. Yes I take your serious point. Although I gotta confess all I know about cars is when they need fuel in and that when the ashtray is full it's my time to trade up to a new one  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Whatever you do, DO NOT PURCHASE A FRENCH CAR! Any good car trader or mechanic would tell you this. "
Yep! That's what's currently in the garage awaiting repair!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A bloke I work with has offered me his wife's 2004 Toyota yaris 1.4, 60k for 2k. What do you think guys?
Petrol or Diesel?"
Still way to much for a car nearly ten years old ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A bloke I work with has offered me his wife's 2004 Toyota yaris 1.4, 60k for 2k. What do you think guys?"
You can get a 54 plate 1.3 Yaris with 60k for 1,475 or a 04 plate 1.4 diesel for 1600 so its not cheap. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My car died today and its going to cost me £500 to have it repaired. Its only 8 years old but it cost me £500 last year too. So I think its time to buy a new or relatively new car. I dont do a lot of mileage, max 5k a year, if that. Do any of you have any suggestions/recommendations please? "
Vw golf or polo deisel gotta love the Germans I have a 05 golf gti it's great and I used to be a big bmw fan not any more  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you are looking at a £30 tax car you are kinda stuck with diesel
Magane 1.5 dci is also £30 not known for their reliability so you have to be careful what you buy. but It's a decent size car with good electrics and keyless if you get the right one (buttons on handles)
The Citroën c2 (maybe c1) is £20 tax
The fiesta 1.4 tdci is also £30 but make sure it has a good clutch the dual mass is expensive |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A Yaris might be the best suggestion - Toyotas are very reliable, in my opinion.
Personally, I wouldn't be without my Smart - but it is a bit of an acquired taste."
Love the smart ex had one and think they're the best town car about. Think next car will be a soft top smart |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A bloke I work with has offered me his wife's 2004 Toyota yaris 1.4, 60k for 2k. What do you think guys?
Petrol or Diesel?
Still way to much for a car nearly ten years old ! "
unfortunately not.
see, the scrappage scheme that was set up as put used car prices in a bubble, even now, because a lot of decent used cars were destroyed by those that could afford to buy new anyway, they just got more for wrecking them than they would have for selling them on, supply and demand as it were.
secondly, smaler cars will always now be at a premium, with running costs being so expensive now.
i have looked on ebay and autotrader and cant find one for less than the OP has been offered one for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whatever you do, DO NOT PURCHASE A FRENCH CAR! Any good car trader or mechanic would tell you this. "
no don't buy a Citroen c1 or a Peugeot 107 by any means, even though they made by toyota |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive got a 2011 merc slk amg and a 2009 corsa.slk has broke down twice and stupid running costs.but done double the mileage in my corsa and never let me down once and really cheap to run aswell |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/home/intro
This site is very helpful if you are car searching, goto Vehicle Enquiry hit next then enter the reg and make of any car, will give you the engine size, fuel type, year but more importantly the exact cost of 6 and 12mth tax, plus how much tax is left on it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm finding this thread helpful. As I'm looking @ changing my car soon. I've been looking @ the mini copper sport 04/05. Not looked at the stats tho.
Really ? How old is he and who's going to be paying his insurance ? "
Confused dot com..... There is no he. It's for me and I think I'm old enough to pay my own way by now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm finding this thread helpful. As I'm looking @ changing my car soon. I've been looking @ the mini copper sport 04/05. Not looked at the stats tho.
Really ? How old is he and who's going to be paying his insurance ?
Confused dot com..... There is no he. It's for me and I think I'm old enough to pay my own way by now. "
he means the mini COPPER |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"A Yaris might be the best suggestion - Toyotas are very reliable, in my opinion.
Personally, I wouldn't be without my Smart - but it is a bit of an acquired taste.
Love the smart ex had one and think they're the best town car about. Think next car will be a soft top smart "
Nearly got a soft top when I traded in last time but worried about the boot space. |
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By *ickndomCouple
over a year ago
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http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/topten/top-ten-small-hatchbacks/
This is a great source for info, and the two cars I would have seggested are no1&2 in the best small hatch
The Hyundai I10 and the Kia Picanto, they are basically the same car but look slightly differrent and do drive differently.
They have great warrenties 5 and 7 and start at £7k new, both £20 RFL and use the same 1.2 engine, which thinks its a 1.5 and great on fuel, you also get lots of kit for your buck |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've got a mate who works for one of the motoring rescue organisations.
The least breakdowns on their systems are Hyundais."
We had a new I20 and had Green Flag out five times in six months. Piece of crap. |
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By *ickndomCouple
over a year ago
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"I've got a mate who works for one of the motoring rescue organisations.
The least breakdowns on their systems are Hyundais.
We had a new I20 and had Green Flag out five times in six months. Piece of crap."
I used to sell them and whilst they are not perfect, all cars break down and they all get Friday afternoon cars, what I will say is that Hyundai owners often buy not one but 4, 5 or 6 hyundai's over the years
Personally I think that a Honda Jazz is a better car but will cost a lot more, however the hyundai a fine car that offers true value for money |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A Yaris might be the best suggestion - Toyotas are very reliable, in my opinion.
Personally, I wouldn't be without my Smart - but it is a bit of an acquired taste.
Love the smart ex had one and think they're the best town car about. Think next car will be a soft top smart
Nearly got a soft top when I traded in last time but worried about the boot space. "
Don't carry anything in boot apart from small bag but thanks for that |
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"I've got a mate who works for one of the motoring rescue organisations.
The least breakdowns on their systems are Hyundais.
We had a new I20 and had Green Flag out five times in six months. Piece of crap.
I used to sell them and whilst they are not perfect, all cars break down and they all get Friday afternoon cars, what I will say is that Hyundai owners often buy not one but 4, 5 or 6 hyundai's over the years
Personally I think that a Honda Jazz is a better car but will cost a lot more, however the hyundai a fine car that offers true value for money"
It was made worse by the inept dealer not tracing the fault. Turned out to be electrical.
btw there is a reason Skoda is the brand with the number one slot in terms of customer satisfaction. They never go wrong and the dealers are brilliant. |
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"I've got a mate who works for one of the motoring rescue organisations.
The least breakdowns on their systems are Hyundais.
We had a new I20 and had Green Flag out five times in six months. Piece of crap.
I used to sell them and whilst they are not perfect, all cars break down and they all get Friday afternoon cars, what I will say is that Hyundai owners often buy not one but 4, 5 or 6 hyundai's over the years
Personally I think that a Honda Jazz is a better car but will cost a lot more, however the hyundai a fine car that offers true value for money
It was made worse by the inept dealer not tracing the fault. Turned out to be electrical.
btw there is a reason Skoda is the brand with the number one slot in terms of customer satisfaction. They never go wrong and the dealers are brilliant."
would love a yeti! |
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"A Yaris might be the best suggestion - Toyotas are very reliable, in my opinion.
Personally, I wouldn't be without my Smart - but it is a bit of an acquired taste.
Love the smart ex had one and think they're the best town car about. Think next car will be a soft top smart
Nearly got a soft top when I traded in last time but worried about the boot space.
Don't carry anything in boot apart from small bag but thanks for that "
I have to fit shopping in! |
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"A Yaris might be the best suggestion - Toyotas are very reliable, in my opinion.
Personally, I wouldn't be without my Smart - but it is a bit of an acquired taste.
Love the smart ex had one and think they're the best town car about. Think next car will be a soft top smart
Nearly got a soft top when I traded in last time but worried about the boot space.
Don't carry anything in boot apart from small bag but thanks for that
I have to fit shopping in!"
Good point |
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"I've got a mate who works for one of the motoring rescue organisations.
The least breakdowns on their systems are Hyundais.
We had a new I20 and had Green Flag out five times in six months. Piece of crap.
I used to sell them and whilst they are not perfect, all cars break down and they all get Friday afternoon cars, what I will say is that Hyundai owners often buy not one but 4, 5 or 6 hyundai's over the years
Personally I think that a Honda Jazz is a better car but will cost a lot more, however the hyundai a fine car that offers true value for money
It was made worse by the inept dealer not tracing the fault. Turned out to be electrical.
btw there is a reason Skoda is the brand with the number one slot in terms of customer satisfaction. They never go wrong and the dealers are brilliant.
would love a yeti!"
That sounds like a kinky fetish lol |
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