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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Our esteemed leaders Messrs macaroon clogged n co are introducing in 2015 a 5p charge in English shops for placcy bags.
Is this really an environmental issue or just a conduit to raise funds for charity thus saving the govt having to assist with taxpayers dosh.
AND will all the 5p go to charity or is it cynical to suspect 4p of it will be the shops admin cost n re absorbed  |
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This isn't new though is it? A lot of shops charge for bags or give you points fir using your own bags etc.
Are they making it a mandatory charge? I'm not hard up for 5p so won't begrudge paying if all or some of it goes to charity |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You even have to pay 5p to MacDonalds for a bag to take your food out in Wales  "
Not only does the bag help you carry your food it improves the nutritional content  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
I have so many old carrier bags I should manage for a while. I also have many canvas shopping bags.
It's a real concern. Sea creatures think discarded plastic bags floating in the sea are squid and eat them, then can't eat anything else as they have a tummy full of bags. Whatever the UK does though will have hardly any effect, as other countries don't charge and give out bags for the tiniest purchase. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You even have to pay 5p to MacDonalds for a bag to take your food out in Wales
Not only does the bag help you carry your food it improves the nutritional content "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Aldi have always charged for bags. Never been an issue. I always use my own. Usually keep one or two in the car. "
Yes I have two saino's bags for life - I can't afford shop at saino's but it looks posher when they see me unloading car wiv me Tesco shopping lol.
My Welsh friend grumbled ALOT when it was introduced there! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Very rare to see people in Wales now with plastic bags, apart from the glue sniffers of course. "
Surely they all could club together and buy a bag between them?
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Aldi have always charged for bags. Never been an issue. I always use my own. Usually keep one or two in the car.
Yes I have two saino's bags for life - I can't afford shop at saino's but it looks posher when they see me unloading car wiv me Tesco shopping lol.
My Welsh friend grumbled ALOT when it was introduced there! "
I have Aldi bags for life which are huge. Can fit all my shopping in just two of them. |
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"Very rare to see people in Wales now with plastic bags, apart from the glue sniffers of course.
Surely they all could club together and buy a bag between them?
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That made you look incredibly cheap  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ministers are said to be concerned at the environmental impact of the bags, particularly on waterborne animals." – BBC.CO.UK.
So, our esteemed leaders dictate that we (the public) should face a financial levy on using plastic bags (to fund the clean up) rather than passing legislation on the supermarkets to have to produce bags and packaging bags made from renewable bio plastics.
The actual problem of environmental impact of non-biodegradable bags still exists; you're just getting the public to fund the clean-up.
Well done the Government. Another fine example of bureaucratic asshatery missing the root cause!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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""Ministers are said to be concerned at the environmental impact of the bags, particularly on waterborne animals." – BBC.CO.UK.
So, our esteemed leaders dictate that we (the public) should face a financial levy on using plastic bags (to fund the clean up) rather than passing legislation on the supermarkets to have to produce bags and packaging bags made from renewable bio plastics.
The actual problem of environmental impact of non-biodegradable bags still exists; you're just getting the public to fund the clean-up.
Well done the Government. Another fine example of bureaucratic asshatery missing the root cause!
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Prexactly!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You even have to pay 5p to MacDonalds for a bag to take your food out in Wales "
Unfortunately it still doesn't reduce the number of Brown bags discarded all over town 
But it does work
The increase in bags for life etc had been very good and the reduction in thin placcy bags is huge
Most supermarket chains gave bags for life away during the beginning of the campaign here. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
I don't have a problem with charging for plastic bags. I don't have a problem with the money going to environmental charities.
I do have a problem with this being seen as a way for supermarkets to get around the reduction in packaging. I do have a problem with this being seen as a way to pay for the clean up.
Stuff ordered online comes with so much packaging that the impact of that needs to be considered.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't have a problem with charging for plastic bags. I don't have a problem with the money going to environmental charities.
I do have a problem with this being seen as a way for supermarkets to get around the reduction in packaging. I do have a problem with this being seen as a way to pay for the clean up.
Stuff ordered online comes with so much packaging that the impact of that needs to be considered.
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The onus of this impending charge is all wrong
The govt should b telling supermarkets to find an alternative for placcy bags n packaging n not charging the public a penalty. I have to empty the disposable packing side of my waste bin alot more frequently than the food waste etc side  |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
It's a product with which we have been spoiled being very often free. When I was a kid no shops provided bags. You had to have your own. What's the big deal? Don't want to pay? Use your own bags. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We're used to it in Wales now and its great to see so many charities benefitting from the new donation.
I always have a fold away bag in my hand bag for impromptu buys and I keep my Hessian bags in the boot for the big shop..
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"I don't have a problem with charging for plastic bags. I don't have a problem with the money going to environmental charities.
I do have a problem with this being seen as a way for supermarkets to get around the reduction in packaging. I do have a problem with this being seen as a way to pay for the clean up.
Stuff ordered online comes with so much packaging that the impact of that needs to be considered.
The onus of this impending charge is all wrong
The govt should b telling supermarkets to find an alternative for placcy bags n packaging n not charging the public a penalty. I have to empty the disposable packing side of my waste bin alot more frequently than the food waste etc side "
Sorry, you have thew wrong end of the stick herew.
The plastic bag charge has been introduced to attempt to reduce the vast majority of bags that end up in landfill sites where they take 1000 years to decompose.
A great many other bags end up in rivers, streams and ultimately into the oceans, where wildlife is killed by ingesting plastic bags.
Since the introduction of bag charges in parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world, there has been a massive reduction in usage.
People have adapted to using other styles of bags. I for one find it isn't an inconvenience to re-use bags, or use "Baga for Life".
We all need to play our part in helping the Earth and our environment. I'd happily give up using plastic bags. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't have a problem with charging for plastic bags. I don't have a problem with the money going to environmental charities.
I do have a problem with this being seen as a way for supermarkets to get around the reduction in packaging. I do have a problem with this being seen as a way to pay for the clean up.
Stuff ordered online comes with so much packaging that the impact of that needs to be considered.
The onus of this impending charge is all wrong
The govt should b telling supermarkets to find an alternative for placcy bags n packaging n not charging the public a penalty. I have to empty the disposable packing side of my waste bin alot more frequently than the food waste etc side
Sorry, you have thew wrong end of the stick herew.
The plastic bag charge has been introduced to attempt to reduce the vast majority of bags that end up in landfill sites where they take 1000 years to decompose.
A great many other bags end up in rivers, streams and ultimately into the oceans, where wildlife is killed by ingesting plastic bags.
Since the introduction of bag charges in parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world, there has been a massive reduction in usage.
People have adapted to using other styles of bags. I for one find it isn't an inconvenience to re-use bags, or use "Baga for Life".
We all need to play our part in helping the Earth and our environment. I'd happily give up using plastic bags."
My issue isn't with using yr own bags - in 99 out of a 100 occasions I use my own bags.
My contention is WHY isn't the govt pressuring the supermarkets to find biodegradable alternatives to the bag n other general packaging.
I'm all for reducing contamination to wildlife etc AND for philanthropic routing of the money raised into charities. I'm more having the hissy fit on why the poor old mug consumer has to bear the brunt (again) |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Yes but in olden times we didn't have superstores. We are encouraged to buy everything in one place in a weekly/monthly shop. When I was a kid my mum went to the shops daily."
Don't see what difference it makes. One shop, many shops, use your own. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"we should have paper ones like they do in the US mind you they do look cumbersome when they walk in juggling 2 bags that dont have handles"
A wifey on the news just said paper bags are less environmentally friendly than plastic because, although they're from a renewable source, they require MUCH more processing to get from tree to shop and are much heavier to ship. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its only the Libdems that are going to do this if they get in power.
The chances of that are greater than winning the Euro millions.
They will more than likely ditch it, if they form another coalition any way.
They just cater to who ever pays the biggest bribe.
Sorry I meant to say donation.. |
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