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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"are other alcoholics his respobsibility ...did he ask for anyone to take a photo or indeed publish the photo in the papers ? .. im really not grasping what is ' disgusting ' ?"
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By (user no longer on site)
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The press love illustrating by photos what they think we need to be reminded of in a person.
What was disgusting was a pic of Saville I saw standing next to a young girl ( face fuzzed out) As if we really need the negative properganda to understand what he was.
I think the press believe we're all thick. I understand the sun is deliberately aimed at the bottom area of the IQ range |
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By *affy72Woman
over a year ago
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I think if I'd been accused of something that I didn't do and it was proved in Court that I was innocent of all charges, I would want a drink!!
He's had two years of stress, let him have a drink (he might well just have had the one!), let him smile, let him be happy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"are other alcoholics his respobsibility ...did he ask for anyone to take a photo or indeed publish the photo in the papers ? .. im really not grasping what is ' disgusting ' ?
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the guy has just been cleared of the worse charges imaginable and he has had a few pints
its his life it is his business hardly disgusting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That poor man and all hes been through.
why shouldnt he have a drink.
good luck to him, i dont think he is a serious alcoholic otherwise he would be drinking all day and a lot more.
too many do gooders about these days telling everyone how to live their lives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think if I'd been accused of something that I didn't do and it was proved in Court that I was innocent of all charges, I would want a drink!!
He's had two years of stress, let him have a drink (he might well just have had the one!), let him smile, let him be happy. "
couldn't have put it better myself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If I'd been through what he's been through the last few months, I'd have a drink too! "
Totally agree, let him have his celebratory drink. It's not like he's been abstaining during court proceedings. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"are other alcoholics his respobsibility ...did he ask for anyone to take a photo or indeed publish the photo in the papers ? .. im really not grasping what is ' disgusting ' ?"
He posed for the pictures and no doubt got a nice fee from the brewery in the process. The message that he is unable to enjoy himself and relax without alcohol. No alcoholic should even contemplate a drink for that reason. One drink is enough to start the slide into the abyss
As an aside, what does jimmy savile have to do with alcoholism? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If i had been through what he has i would be having a drink and smiling too, found innocent in a court of law end of.
He bloody deserves a drink and too be smiling.
Fecking media are a bunch of twats. |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Think he bloody deserved a drink after what crap hes been put through..
if we are going down that route.. how did the girl making the claims help genuine rape victims.. not much at all I would say, did she worry about that NO.. was he pictured pissed no, and as for smiling when your whole future hung in the balance due to lies and you were found not guilty of all charges i suspect its pretty hard not to bloody smile.
Shocked people are more bothered about how he is not helping alcoholics rather than how bloody wrong is it that it got as far as it did, and his name has been dragged through the mud |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Lol really? Thought I was reading a letter from 'Bored In Hertfordshire' in the Daily Express for a moment.
So, who are you blaming? LeVell for drinking or the media for showing him drinking? Is he to be the poster boy for Alcoholics Anonymous? What was the point of the original post?
I'm flabbered and I'm gasted... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hope he was cleared because he was actually innocent (just like those who are found guilty, I would hope they are in fact guilty).
BTW I have not been following the case! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think if I'd been accused of something that I didn't do and it was proved in Court that I was innocent of all charges, I would want a drink!!
He's had two years of stress, let him have a drink (he might well just have had the one!), let him smile, let him be happy. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Don't judge someone unless you have walked a mile in their shoes. That is all.
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
Think he bloody deserved a drink after what crap hes been put through..
if we are going down that route.. how did the girl making the claims help genuine rape victims.. not much at all I would say, did she worry about that NO.. was he pictured pissed no, and as for smiling when your whole future hung in the balance due to lies and you were found not guilty of all charges i suspect its pretty hard not to bloody smile.
Shocked people are more bothered about how he is not helping alcoholics rather than how bloody wrong is it that it got as far as it did, and his name has been dragged through the mud "
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An innocent man, celebrates, good for him. He should have had anonymity from the start, his good name and personal life has been dragged through the mire. The accuser who wrongly accused him, kept hers. The law needs to change. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"are other alcoholics his respobsibility ...did he ask for anyone to take a photo or indeed publish the photo in the papers ? .. im really not grasping what is ' disgusting ' ?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Live and let live, some people thing swinging is disgusting, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.  "
too right, and some swingers think swinging is disgusting too.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
why is it disgusting thats what most folk do when they celebrate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
he's just been thro 2 years of hell being accused of raping a kid, give him a break ffs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
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"The press love illustrating by photos what they think we need to be reminded of in a person.
What was disgusting was a pic of Saville I saw standing next to a young girl ( face fuzzed out) As if we really need the negative properganda to understand what he was.
People just love whining nowadays that their 'sensitivities' have been offended.
I think the press believe we're all thick. I understand the sun is deliberately aimed at the bottom area of the IQ range "
And you think the Mirror or other tabloid press are aimed at the MENSA standard? Who cares what he does so long as its not illegal, he's just been found not guilty of am offence that, irregardless, has tarnished his reputation and may well affect him gaining future employment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So? The media invited not just themselves but the nation into his closet full of skeletons, now they can see him withdrawn back into it thanks to their righteous crusade! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"are other alcoholics his respobsibility ...did he ask for anyone to take a photo or indeed publish the photo in the papers ? .. im really not grasping what is ' disgusting ' ?
He posed for the pictures and no doubt got a nice fee from the brewery in the process. The message that he is unable to enjoy himself and relax without alcohol. No alcoholic should even contemplate a drink for that reason. One drink is enough to start the slide into the abyss
As an aside, what does jimmy savile have to do with alcoholism?"
so y u bring in jimmy savile the man is dead
webster is alive an found not guilty in a courtroom an a jury
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
he's just been thro 2 years of hell being accused of raping a kid, give him a break ffs "
bang on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
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Conservatory?  |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
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Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
he's just been thro 2 years of hell being accused of raping a kid, give him a break ffs "
Couldn't agree more |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
I would imagine after the two years of what he has been through (which none of US who have not been through the same can really comprehend) it must have been a huge wave of relief at the outcome of the case (which I ain't been following so I don't know the specific nuances)
Am I to assume he is a recovering alcoholic? If so I can FULLY understand why he hada pint in his hand n beaming ear to ear! Alcohol is a crutch to alcoholics n following two years of this investigation I for one don't condemn him or deny him his choice of celebration |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
He confessed to being a alcoholic, dont remebering him saying he was trying to quit!
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By (user no longer on site)
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I can't fault the guy for wanting a pint now this horrible time of his life is over. I dare say many of us wouldn't have spent many days sober if we'd been accused of something similar if we were innocent. The blokes been falsely accused of one of the most vile crimes, had a full blown trial by the media, half the country had him pegged as guilty before he even stepped into a courtroom and then finally vindicated himself.
Now people are complaining that he was pictured having a pint! The bloke can't catch a break can he... |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it? "
Means you can't have your cake (keep it) and eat it. You've to make a choice, keep it or eat it but you can't do both |
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By *urvywelshCouple
over a year ago
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"If i had been through what he has i would be having a drink and smiling too, found innocent in a court of law end of.
He bloody deserves a drink and too be smiling.
Fecking media are a bunch of twats. "
I agree. He's been through a hell of a time. Leave him to get on with his life now. |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it?
Means you can't have your cake (keep it) and eat it. You've to make a choice, keep it or eat it but you can't do both "
That's my point. Why would you want to keep it? Surely you have a cake to eat, not place on the mantlepiece? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Is it or is it the fact he was cleared on all charges that has pissed you off, the latter I think |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Headline news........Alcoholic has a pint!!!!!
What next? Have them bears been crapping in the woods again? Oh and I bet sharks are still shitting in the sea. |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it?
Means you can't have your cake (keep it) and eat it. You've to make a choice, keep it or eat it but you can't do both
That's my point. Why would you want to keep it? Surely you have a cake to eat, not place on the mantlepiece? "
You can't keep the cake to eat at a later time or when you feel like it AND eat it now, you can't have it all ways. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
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One side of my house is completely glass, and no, I don't throw stones  |
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OP, no it is not disgusting at all..
the use of the term disgusting is a little bit puzzling, almost like an over hyped spin to give greater emphasis to what for him is probably his default position..
fully echo what others have said, cant understand how anyone who I suspect like most of us on here do not have the tiniest inkling about what he has just been through can damn him in such a way..
just a tenth of that would be enough to send most folk to the pub after being found innocent.. |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it?
Means you can't have your cake (keep it) and eat it. You've to make a choice, keep it or eat it but you can't do both
That's my point. Why would you want to keep it? Surely you have a cake to eat, not place on the mantlepiece?
You can't keep the cake to eat at a later time or when you feel like it AND eat it now, you can't have it all ways. "
Lol sorry but I'm never going to be convinced. Whether it's eaten now or later it's still going to be consumed and not kept as an ornament. Stupid saying |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
I have to admit my initial thought when I first saw the picture was "wow, that doesn't look good, an alcoholic downing pints!" Then I thought, two years of hell!
No matter what the verdict there'll always be people that think "no smoke without fire", the sheer relief of the whole situation...shit, I'd have a drink or two too! |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it? "
You've misquoted: it's you CAN'T have your cake and eat it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let the guy have a drink and enjoy it. He's been publicly humiliated, now finally cleared. Mud will stick and he will probably never be treated the same as he was before the case. He is trying to get back to normality after a very testing time where he could have lost everything. |
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"People who live in glass houses etc ?? Such a stupid saying i mean really do you know anyone that lives in a glass house ?? And if they did they arent gonna be hurling stones around are they lol ???
Not as stupid as 'Having your cake and eating it'. I mean, what's the point of having a cake if you've no intention of consuming it?
You've misquoted: it's you CAN'T have your cake and eat it. "
Lol I realised after I'd posted but still standing by what I've said |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Can't believe somebody would have the nerve to drink lager out of a can after somebody was caught out telling lies about them. It's disgusting. Thank god the voice and camera of reason were there to take a picture for those amongst us who will read more into it than they can actually read. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can't believe somebody would have the nerve to drink lager out of a can after somebody was caught out telling lies about them. It's disgusting. Thank god the voice and camera of reason were there to take a picture for those amongst us who will read more into it than they can actually read. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
Are you by any chance teetotal? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
Er............I DON'T DRINK MATE
But I still see nothing wrong with le Vell having a pint  IF he is a recovering alcoholic I extend the man the benefit of the doubt n WHEN he is able n ready to get back on 'the wagon' he will do so . At the moment altho he may have had an acquittal he is feeling (naturally) vulnerable |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
please do not feel sorry for me and please do not feel the need to highlight the dangers of substance abuse.
i am an adult who can make informed choices and decisions. |
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
would imagine that is a vague assumption or sweeping generalisation based on err what exactly..?
there will be many on here who will enjoy a drink socially, there will be others perhaps who imbibe to another level..
none of which btw is what the post was aimed at, unless it was badly worded..
it was a criticism of someone, not appropriate nor necessary given the circumstances..
to now try and turn it into some sort of missive about alcohol and how 'ignorant' others are is a cop out..
shallow at best..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
save your sympathy for your self and loved ones, no one else needs it!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
I grew up with an alcoholic father, we had nothing, even Christmas/birthday pressies from my family was sold to buy his beer, many weeks the only meal I had was the free one from school and id get nothing over the weekend till I went back to school Monday, I spend most of my childhood being ping ponged in and out of the system, from one care home to another, back home till I was taken into care again
having a drink at the end of the day or as a way to celibrate does not mean you have a problem nor does it call for your sympathy
like most people I enjoy a drink now and again but my bills are paid, my kids are fed and night out are only funded by spare money, whats the harm in that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
He earns good money in the Rovers holding and drinking coloured pints of water, how do you know he was drinking beer? |
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
Not like you to be condescending. I seldom drink, have no time for d*unks BUT understand in this situation, the relief could call for a drink.
My relief would be my weight in Green & Black Butterscotch...but I digress. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
No it's the image of a person who has his life back
Can not imagine what any guy would go through
It's enough to make you drink
Now lets see the woman in court and on tv please |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Not like you to be condescending. I seldom drink, have no time for d*unks BUT understand in this situation, the relief could call for a drink.
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Not all alcoholics are d*unks. Some function perfectly normally and hold down 'high powered' jobs, whilst consuming more bevvy than most people could carry, never mind imbibe. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
No it's the image of a person who has his life back
Can not imagine what any guy would go through
It's enough to make you drink
Now lets see the woman in court and on tv please "
I thought it was a child not an adult. Therefore her identify is protected by law. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
Some may feel sorry for you too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
No it's the image of a person who has his life back
Can not imagine what any guy would go through
It's enough to make you drink
Now lets see the woman in court and on tv please
I thought it was a child not an adult. Therefore her identify is protected by law. "
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By *nnyMan
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Now lets see the woman in court and on tv please
I thought it was a child not an adult. Therefore her identify is protected by law. "
Child or adult, her identity is protected unless she, an adult, chooses to reveal her name. |
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Now lets see the woman in court and on tv please
I thought it was a child not an adult. Therefore her identify is protected by law.
Child or adult, her identity is protected unless she, an adult, chooses to reveal her name."
This is why I believe that a defendants name should not be made public till after the trial |
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"I find it interesting that so many on here cannot seem to be able to relax without the crutch of alcohol. This suggests that many of you on here may have a problem and are either unaware or are in denial.
Far too many on this thread seem to be ignorant of the problems seen and unseen caused by addiction.
I feel sorry for you"
I'm surprised you haven't picked up on the pictures of Le Vell smoking a cigarette it seems on every available occasion he managed a break from the courtroom. As addictive and dangerous if not moreso than alcohol. |
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In answer to the question, yes I do have a drink, no I am not an alcoholic
No I do not buy the sun newspaper
No I do not read the Mail
Yes I have seen "functioning alcoholics" die from their addiction.
I have also known people that have died from misuse of all types of drugs from Heroin down through cocaine, spliffs, overdosing on ecstasy and prescription drugs. There is nothing wrong with having a drink to celebrate but for a self confessed alcoholic to be posing with a pint (in a glass and not out of the can) is if you pardon the pun in very bad taste.
The same people will be saying that images of Paul Gascoigne or Kenny Sanson are tragic and something should be done.
George Best was a tragedy lived out in public. Even more tragic was the fact that he had a second chance. Most people that have a transplant turn over a new leaf and manage to recover. Some believe they are still on borrowed time and use their extended lifespan to party hard and die happy.
Whatever the addiction it should not be glamourised |
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OP, yes addictions are bad etc..
but do you have no empathy for what the guy went through..?
not like he was up before a Magistrate on a D*unk and Disorderly or legless behind the wheel and after whatever the outcome was then went to the pub and 'posed' in 'yeh like I give a fuck' manner..
context is pretty relevant would you not agree.. |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
I'm gonna specifically respond to your post
Michael le Vell u say is a self confessed Alcoholic - has he at anytime stated he is trying to address the issue (he may have n I missed it) or was it just left as a statement of fact??
Regarding the point - is it the right image etc - I am not aware le Bell is the signed up posterboy for AA N therefore he has no moral obligation to set an example to alcoholism etc
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Now lets see the woman in court and on tv please
I thought it was a child not an adult. Therefore her identify is protected by law.
Child or adult, her identity is protected unless she, an adult, chooses to reveal her name.
This is why I believe that a defendants name should not be made public till after the trial "
It would be almost impossible to keep such information secret* and would lead to all sorts of speculation as to who the accused might be.
*someone on Twitter correctly named the accused in the case we're discussing a few days ago and was swiftly and rightly brought to book.
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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Perhaps he deserves a pint after the hell he's been through. |
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"Ok a post was removed, but a lot had quoted that post and they have had to be removed too, so if you commented on the OP too while commenting on the post removed you will need to repost. "
I have hardly understood a word of that lol - I'm nursing a banging headache but I hadn't realized it was THAT banging LOL |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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haha it made sense in my head
A post was removed, if anyone quoting the post they get removed too.
Some had quoted it to comment on it and had then added comments about the OP.
I couldn't delete only half of their post so they will have to repost if they want to comment again on the OP |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So, the poor guy has spent the last two years defending himself against spurious and disgusting charges, for which he was found not guilty. That doesn't seem to be enough for some folks so they decide to try and deride him for having a pint! FFS. Get a grip.
Has he even said he is trying to give the alcohol up? Is he a member of the AA? LEAVE THE GUY ALONE NOW and let him try and rebuild his life in peace!! |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
wakey wakey reality check time |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This person is now an adult made the claim when she was 9 it happened
No this person must now go the through what the man went through
And then sent to jail as this is what the guy would have got and a whole lot more
No the woman is scot free
Yes let's hang every pedo but lets makes sure we don't hang people on a wim of people's say so |
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"In answer to the question, yes I do have a drink, no I am not an alcoholic
No I do not buy the sun newspaper
No I do not read the Mail
Yes I have seen "functioning alcoholics" die from their addiction.
I have also known people that have died from misuse of all types of drugs from Heroin down through cocaine, spliffs, overdosing on ecstasy and prescription drugs. There is nothing wrong with having a drink to celebrate but for a self confessed alcoholic to be posing with a pint (in a glass and not out of the can) is if you pardon the pun in very bad taste.
The same people will be saying that images of Paul Gascoigne or Kenny Sanson are tragic and something should be done.
George Best was a tragedy lived out in public. Even more tragic was the fact that he had a second chance. Most people that have a transplant turn over a new leaf and manage to recover. Some believe they are still on borrowed time and use their extended lifespan to party hard and die happy.
Whatever the addiction it should not be glamourised "
but he wasn't glamourising the fact he's had a drinking problem he was glamourising the fact he'd just been cleared if child abuse allegations
This mans just been thro two years of hell trying to clear his name from allegations that could have ruined his life and all your bothered about is the fact he's having a pint in public, talk about compassion |
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"In answer to the question, yes I do have a drink, no I am not an alcoholic
No I do not buy the sun newspaper
No I do not read the Mail
Yes I have seen "functioning alcoholics" die from their addiction.
I have also known people that have died from misuse of all types of drugs from Heroin down through cocaine, spliffs, overdosing on ecstasy and prescription drugs. There is nothing wrong with having a drink to celebrate but for a self confessed alcoholic to be posing with a pint (in a glass and not out of the can) is if you pardon the pun in very bad taste.
The same people will be saying that images of Paul Gascoigne or Kenny Sanson are tragic and something should be done.
George Best was a tragedy lived out in public. Even more tragic was the fact that he had a second chance. Most people that have a transplant turn over a new leaf and manage to recover. Some believe they are still on borrowed time and use their extended lifespan to party hard and die happy.
Whatever the addiction it should not be glamourised
but he wasn't glamourising the fact he's had a drinking problem he was glamourising the fact he'd just been cleared if child abuse allegations
This mans just been thro two years of hell trying to clear his name from allegations that could have ruined his life and all your bothered about is the fact he's having a pint in public, talk about compassion "
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Michael Robert Turner has had a shocking 2 years more than likely all because of 'Kevin Webster'
I hope he get the support/help he may need."
There does seem to be a remarkable inability to distinguish real life from television fiction in some quarters. |
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Not like you to be condescending. I seldom drink, have no time for d*unks BUT understand in this situation, the relief could call for a drink.
Not all alcoholics are d*unks. Some function perfectly normally and hold down 'high powered' jobs, whilst consuming more bevvy than most people could carry, never mind imbibe."
You're correct: I have no time for alcoholics... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Not like you to be condescending. I seldom drink, have no time for d*unks BUT understand in this situation, the relief could call for a drink.
Not all alcoholics are d*unks. Some function perfectly normally and hold down 'high powered' jobs, whilst consuming more bevvy than most people could carry, never mind imbibe.
You're correct: I have no time for alcoholics..."
Would you necessarily know? |
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"In answer to the question, yes I do have a drink, no I am not an alcoholic
No I do not buy the sun newspaper
No I do not read the Mail
Yes I have seen "functioning alcoholics" die from their addiction.
I have also known people that have died from misuse of all types of drugs from Heroin down through cocaine, spliffs, overdosing on ecstasy and prescription drugs. There is nothing wrong with having a drink to celebrate but for a self confessed alcoholic to be posing with a pint (in a glass and not out of the can) is if you pardon the pun in very bad taste.
The same people will be saying that images of Paul Gascoigne or Kenny Sanson are tragic and something should be done.
George Best was a tragedy lived out in public. Even more tragic was the fact that he had a second chance. Most people that have a transplant turn over a new leaf and manage to recover. Some believe they are still on borrowed time and use their extended lifespan to party hard and die happy.
Whatever the addiction it should not be glamourised "
Sorry, I don't see where it's been glamourised. After a hard day at work some people head for the pub, not my first port of call but I recognise that's how some people de-stress.
Therefore, whilst not my stress relief method I understand it. |
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"OP, yes addictions are bad etc..
but do you have no empathy for what the guy went through..?
not like he was up before a Magistrate on a D*unk and Disorderly or legless behind the wheel and after whatever the outcome was then went to the pub and 'posed' in 'yeh like I give a fuck' manner..
context is pretty relevant would you not agree.. "
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Not like you to be condescending. I seldom drink, have no time for d*unks BUT understand in this situation, the relief could call for a drink.
Not all alcoholics are d*unks. Some function perfectly normally and hold down 'high powered' jobs, whilst consuming more bevvy than most people could carry, never mind imbibe.
You're correct: I have no time for alcoholics...
Would you necessarily know?"
I've known a few, was married to one...operative word: was! So I'll repeat as you seem to have a hard on for me: I have no time for alcoholics! |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Not like you to be condescending. I seldom drink, have no time for d*unks BUT understand in this situation, the relief could call for a drink.
Not all alcoholics are d*unks. Some function perfectly normally and hold down 'high powered' jobs, whilst consuming more bevvy than most people could carry, never mind imbibe.
You're correct: I have no time for alcoholics...
Would you necessarily know?
I've known a few, was married to one...operative word: was! So I'll repeat as you seem to have a hard on for me: I have no time for alcoholics! "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Op are you struggling with alcoholism by any chance ??? as I see no reason or grounds for your rant!!! he is after all a human being not a puppet of celebrity |
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"I wasn't aware that it was a celebrity's job to teach us all how to live our lives. I prefer to take personal responsibility for mine. "
its just a cop out isn't it, always has been, when people have brats for kids instead of taking responsibility for their kids actions its easier to blame the TV they watch, games they play and even music they listen, are we now blaming people in the public eye for those who drink and take drugs?
if someone off a soap has a drink does that really mean we will all copy and if one of us turns into a drink its their fault? really? |
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"I wasn't aware that it was a celebrity's job to teach us all how to live our lives. I prefer to take personal responsibility for mine.
its just a cop out isn't it, always has been, when people have brats for kids instead of taking responsibility for their kids actions its easier to blame the TV they watch, games they play and even music they listen, are we now blaming people in the public eye for those who drink and take drugs?
if someone off a soap has a drink does that really mean we will all copy and if one of us turns into a drink its their fault? really? "
i agree
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Give the bloke a break he has been through hell through nothing he has done what is disgusting is lack of news regarding action being taken against the person making the false accusatolions that have ruined an innocent persons life. |
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub "
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub "
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it |
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it"
Waterlo road? |
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road? "
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road? "
Waterloo road classed as drama not a soap |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
if he was a recovering alcoholic he wouldn't be drinking would he? or maybe you got your 'reliably sourced' information off google? 
if i'd been through what he had I would be necking JD from a bottle!!...leave the poor man alone ffs! |
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road?
no one likes a smart arse "
Lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The guy has just been through two years of absolute hell, villified, tormented and judged by some.
He has now been cleared and found NOT guilty on all counts in a court of law so if he wants to go and have a few pints to celebrate GO FOR IT !!! I know i would !!
Such a shame that some want to now make him out to be some sort of raging alcoholic !!
If it was me i would raise a PINT and tell the haters to DO ONE !! |
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road?
Waterloo road classed as drama not a soap "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road?
Waterloo road classed as drama not a soap
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seems I was right after all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road?
Waterloo road classed as drama not a soap "
Eldorado then? Or that market one, can't remember the name of it! |
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over a year ago
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what is the definition of an alcoholic? I was once referred to occ health at the place where I work for turning up for work with a hangover twice in as many weeks by a woman who drinks at least 1 bottle of wine every night (emphasize the "at least"), who had worries that I was developing a drink problem. I very rarely drink and was branded an alcoholic by someone who drinks everyday!
if I was Michael la vells shoes I think I'd have a drink, alcoholic or not!
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"wheres the most action in a soap
the boozer
but you dont complain about them having a drink
Are the other soaps the same? All based round the local pub
I cant think of a single soap that does not have a local pub in it
Waterlo road?
Waterloo road classed as drama not a soap
Eldorado then? Or that market one, can't remember the name of it! "
Soaps inevitably have to feature a pub because it is a central place where they can play out the interactions between alot of the characters at any one time. It is used as a central Meeting point for the interplay. Although I can't recall a pub in brookside u although I expect there was one! |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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Wow!!! Such Pious attitudes for people who have sex with others/strangers as a recreational activity....I didn't think Fabswingers could ever surprise me , but this thread sure has!
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"Wow!!! Such Pious attitudes for people who have sex with others/strangers as a recreational activity....I didn't think Fabswingers could ever surprise me , but this thread sure has!
Give the guy a break....walk a mile in his shoes and see how you would feel..... "
Well said!
I have a friend who knows he drinks too much and he drinks about the same as LaVell claimed, about 8 pints after work.
It's his choice and it's legal. Too bad if anyone disagrees because it was the smokers they kicked out of their precious pubs and bars, not the drinkers. |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Not read the whole thread to be fair but this is my reaction...
Did he agree to be the poster boy for recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
Has he said he is a recovering alcoholic?
Should we ban all inches of people enjoying an alcoholic drink just because a recovering alcoholic or problem drinker might see it? |
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Bloody hell he has been found not guilty of some horrendous charges....he decided to go out and have a few beers...some are quick to judge...I am sure that if someone was to say all those that swing are disgusting people would be first to defend themselves... |
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over a year ago
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
Not read the whole thread to be fair but this is my reaction...
Did he agree to be the poster boy for recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?
Has he said he is a recovering alcoholic?
Should we ban all inches of people enjoying an alcoholic drink just because a recovering alcoholic or problem drinker might see it? "
So, that would be all alcohol advertising then. |
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"Bloody hell he has been found not guilty of some horrendous charges....he decided to go out and have a few beers...some are quick to judge...I am sure that if someone was to say all those that swing are disgusting people would be first to defend themselves..."
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"Wow!!! Such Pious attitudes for people who have sex with others/strangers as a recreational activity....I didn't think Fabswingers could ever surprise me , but this thread sure has!
Give the guy a break....walk a mile in his shoes and see how you would feel.....
Well said!
I have a friend who knows he drinks too much and he drinks about the same as LaVell claimed, about 8 pints after work.
It's his choice and it's legal. Too bad if anyone disagrees because it was the smokers they kicked out of their precious pubs and bars, not the drinkers."
Shhhhhh. Be careful don't give the nanny fascists any new ideas. |
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By *at2Couple
over a year ago
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"Wow!!! Such Pious attitudes for people who have sex with others/strangers as a recreational activity....I didn't think Fabswingers could ever surprise me , but this thread sure has!
Give the guy a break....walk a mile in his shoes and see how you would feel.....
Well said!
I have a friend who knows he drinks too much and he drinks about the same as LaVell claimed, about 8 pints after work.
It's his choice and it's legal. Too bad if anyone disagrees because it was the smokers they kicked out of their precious pubs and bars, not the drinkers.
Shhhhhh. Be careful don't give the nanny fascists any new ideas."
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"Children might see people drinking , god forbid ....
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It's not that many years ago that pubs in Scotland weren't allowed to have windows you could see through."
Same down this way. I used to climb up on the windowsill to peek through the pub windows to see if my dad was in there on a Saturday lunchtime as a kid.
He'd been away delivering machine tools all week and couldn't wait to see him. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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It's his choice and it's legal. Too bad if anyone disagrees because it was the smokers they kicked out of their precious pubs and bars, not the drinkers.
Shhhhhh. Be careful don't give the nanny fascists any new ideas. "
We kicked smokers out of pubs and bars because of the harm smoking does to others, not because of the harm it does to smokers.
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It's his choice and it's legal. Too bad if anyone disagrees because it was the smokers they kicked out of their precious pubs and bars, not the drinkers.
Shhhhhh. Be careful don't give the nanny fascists any new ideas.
We kicked smokers out of pubs and bars because of the harm smoking does to others, not because of the harm it does to smokers.
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And now the harm is to pub landlords. They've all gone skint.
To be honest though, I've nothing against non smoking pubs, it's just that nobody was allowed to retain a smoking one. Surely some arrangement could have been made to accommodate everyone. But no the nanny fascists got their way in the end. As bloody always. |
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"I hope he was cleared because he was actually innocent (just like those who are found guilty, I would hope they are in fact guilty).
BTW I have not been following the case!"
Couldn't agree more. 'Proven innocent' is almost impossible. Only two people will ever really know. Prosecution service must have felt there was sufficient evidence to bring a case. Very difficult. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am an alcoholic
I have been in rehab on a number of occasions after falling off the wagon.
I let my family down on so many occasions. I lied, I cheated, I stole money, I worked for dodgy people to pay to keep a too over my head and a bottle in my hand, I have also stood in court accused of crimes I did not commit.
After every one I celebrated by getting hammered.
I have been dry now for nearly 20 years except for one dip.
However if I had the two years that Michael Le Vell has just lived through I'm afraid a pint would not go astray
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"Wow!!! Such Pious attitudes for people who have sex with others/strangers as a recreational activity....I didn't think Fabswingers could ever surprise me , but this thread sure has!
Give the guy a break....walk a mile in his shoes and see how you would feel.....
Well said!
I have a friend who knows he drinks too much and he drinks about the same as LaVell claimed, about 8 pints after work.
It's his choice and it's legal. Too bad if anyone disagrees because it was the smokers they kicked out of their precious pubs and bars, not the drinkers.
Shhhhhh. Be careful don't give the nanny fascists any new ideas. "
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over a year ago
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"I hope he was cleared because he was actually innocent (just like those who are found guilty, I would hope they are in fact guilty).
BTW I have not been following the case!
Couldn't agree more. 'Proven innocent' is almost impossible. Only two people will ever really know. Prosecution service must have felt there was sufficient evidence to bring a case. Very difficult."
For that reason 'Proven innocent' isn't a verdict in England.
The verdicts are Guilty and Not Guilty. |
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There are some very judgemental people on this thread. The guy was proven not guilty. He must have been ecstatic and wanting to celebrate. He needs the papers on his side now for his career his agent probably arranged the photo shoot and all the guy wants is his life back. However some people seem so bitter and twisted its shameful at times how low people can get. |
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The guy was innocent. He was an alcoholic who must have really struggled with the pressure that false accusations bring.
I'd want a drink. A bloody big drink. Poor bloke. Let him celebrate his freedom and start to build his career which lies in ruins. And hopefully quit the booze.
Attitudes and namecalling certainly dont help anyone achieve anything. Good luck to him. |
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Can you imagen being on charges like that and you are totally inasent. I know personally id struggle to get over it an id sertanly want justice on who ever accused me. Think some on this thread need to think how easy that could happen to any body |
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"The guy was innocent. He was an alcoholic who must have really struggled with the pressure that false accusations bring.
I'd want a drink. A bloody big drink. Poor bloke. Let him celebrate his freedom and start to build his career which lies in ruins. And hopefully quit the booze.
Attitudes and namecalling certainly dont help anyone achieve anything. Good luck to him. "
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"There are some very judgemental people on this thread. The guy was proven not guilty. He must have been ecstatic and wanting to celebrate. He needs the papers on his side now for his career his agent probably arranged the photo shoot and all the guy wants is his life back. However some people seem so bitter and twisted its shameful at times how low people can get. "
Only one person on this thread has judged the guy. Pretty much everyone else has gone against the OP |
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"Michael LeVell a self confessed alcoholic has been pictured all over this morning with a pint of lager in his hand and smiling.
Is this the right image to portray to recovering alcoholics and problem drinkers?"
Don't you have more important things to be disgusted about like war, starvation, genocide etc etc? |
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