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"Some people keep swinging as a separate part of their lives and false names, false ages and false personas in our experience are quite common" I agree, but whats the point of saying you are a couple when it turns out you are not? Same with 'straight'guys, same with accommodation. Result is just time wasting ime | |||
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"because couples get more meets usually, and its safer, initially." But not a couple so get blocked. Don't see the point  | |||
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"Sorry, married men playing away complaining about dishonest people tickle me no end...but I digress...as you were..." But at least my profile is honest ... | |||
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"Sorry, married men playing away complaining about dishonest people tickle me no end...but I digress...as you were... But at least my profile is honest ..." not to your wife its not | |||
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"Sorry, married men playing away complaining about dishonest people tickle me no end...but I digress...as you were... But at least my profile is honest ..." You may be honest on your profile but you aint honest to your wife n family? For me that would be a big no no! Each to their own though.... | |||
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"Sorry, married men playing away complaining about dishonest people tickle me no end...but I digress...as you were... But at least my profile is honest ... not to your wife its not" She's not on here tho. The point is that we are all on here for similar reasons, so why project yourself as something you are not that is shown up in a couple of minutes. | |||
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"Sorry, married men playing away complaining about dishonest people tickle me no end...but I digress...as you were... But at least my profile is honest ... You may be honest on your profile but you aint honest to your wife n family? For me that would be a big no no! Each to their own though...." Wasn't asking you for a meet. By being honest, you know straight away that I'm not for you. Surely THAT is the point of the profile. Its a filter. | |||
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"Hi, newbie here so expecting to get savaged. But just wondering how many come across the same amount of dishonest profiles? A couple contact me but the female is very elusive? Most offers I get are from 'straight' guys. Profile says 'can accommodate' but always a reason why they cant at the moment. Bit excessive to me - if you cant be honest on this site where can you be?" Its not the fact that you are a newbie, the subject matter of your posts will always be contentious ie cheating, which I am more than sure you are aware, in my opinion swingers are the most judgmental people on the planet.....not ALL but some. | |||
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"In response to your OP, why are people dishonest? Cause they can be, Why do they lie? Cause they can. " Sad but true | |||
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"I (bull) started a smilair thread this morning about single bi fems turning into couples, I.e will only meet with partner there, to us the single option is there to show weather or not you meet by your self, at least that just how we take it, and the stance of you cheating each to his own there's always to side to every thing, I would piss my self if you found her profile on here tho haha, but back to the OP I don't understand either why people say things they are not, if you meet up with them what they going to say? Oh yeh sorry my gf/wife isn't here she got a headache! Lol "Well said (& re. cheating - Never judge until you know ALL the facts) | |||
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"people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, just a thought that came into my mind "Relevance? | |||
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"I would of thought it was pretty self explanatory." Its not otherwise I wouldnt have asked. The topic is about profiles & mine is very open I believe - don't know about other posters. | |||
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"Our profile is 100% honest. Even our ages. The photo is of me (Jackie) and not some image off the net. Most mail I get is saying I'm too fat and ugly to be on this site. But that's the price of honesty...." People actually write to you saying that?!!  | |||
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"Our profile is 100% honest. Even our ages. The photo is of me (Jackie) and not some image off the net. Most mail I get is saying I'm too fat and ugly to be on this site. But that's the price of honesty...." lol - read your profile & yeah, looks very open. Well done (and its personalitys that count anyway, haven't looked at your pics) | |||
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"Yip I'd be the last person to be able to judge about someone cheating mate, the only thing I don't agree with when someone cheats on their partner and then feel so guilt they tell them and end up hurting them, if your man or women enough to cheat then you should put up with what ever feelings of regret you have. " Yeah - I agree. Not as easy as people think  | |||
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"Obviously no-one is actually interested in the topic, only pushing their own moral stance. People mssing the point completely. So not a lot of point in continuing." so because you are morally bankrupt everyone else should be? the thread is about honesty, which you are not, plain and simple (hence the glass houses quote, thats the relevance) also, you say people should know the facts about your 'situation', guess what, this isnt this is your life. people dont care why your missus won join you/why she wont fuck you/why she has the best husband in the world while all the time you are out trolling for any bit of spare fanny that shows any interest, so the reasons behind it are moot. the facts show, and will always show. still, on the plus side, there are those that dont care, and will meet you, and are honest on their profiles abaout it, so dont worry, you will get a bit. obviously until your missus does find out, then your really really fucked! | |||
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"I would of thought it was pretty self explanatory. Its not otherwise I wouldnt have asked. The topic is about profiles & mine is very open I believe - don't know about other posters." I think Manrider is of the same view as I. It maybe semantics but you're use of the word honesty is ironic. I agree with your thread, but human nature being as it is, people will look at the profile of the person starting a whining thread. If you're "guilty" of what you're moaning about people will challenge it and "derail" the thread. | |||
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"Yip I'd be the last person to be able to judge about someone cheating mate, the only thing I don't agree with when someone cheats on their partner and then feel so guilt they tell them and end up hurting them, if your man or women enough to cheat then you should put up with what ever feelings of regret you have. " really???? so you feel that someone living with guilt (and lets be honest, you do it once and find you get away with it i doubt there is much guilt involved) is better than someones conscience getting the better of them and dealing with whatever emotional fallout accompanies it? do me a fiver!!! thats ridiculous! | |||
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"Our profile is 100% honest. Even our ages. The photo is of me (Jackie) and not some image off the net. Most mail I get is saying I'm too fat and ugly to be on this site. But that's the price of honesty.... People actually write to you saying that?!! "Had a few yes. I'd be greatful for a "mercy fuck" and "good luck you're going to need it" are two that come to mind. The thing is I have a partner so why would I need a mercy fuck ? Quite sad really. | |||
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"I would of thought it was pretty self explanatory. Its not otherwise I wouldnt have asked. The topic is about profiles & mine is very open I believe - don't know about other posters. I think Manrider is of the same view as I. It maybe semantics but you're use of the word honesty is ironic. Not whining at all - just interested in views. The topic is about honesty on profiles. No-one here can comment about whether they are more or less honest than others. After all, there have been numerous posters on here admitting to being convicted & sent to prison. That has nothing to do with the OP. I agree with your thread, but human nature being as it is, people will look at the profile of the person starting a whining thread. If you're "guilty" of what you're moaning about people will challenge it and "derail" the thread." | |||
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"Our profile is 100% honest. Even our ages. The photo is of me (Jackie) and not some image off the net. Most mail I get is saying I'm too fat and ugly to be on this site. But that's the price of honesty.... People actually write to you saying that?!!
Had a few yes. I'd be greatful for a "mercy fuck" and "good luck you're going to need it" are two that come to mind. The thing is I have a partner so why would I need a mercy fuck ?
Quite sad really."some really are quite hurtful arent they. im in the same boat as you, not to everyones taste, but does it bother me? i try not to let it. im having sex with a rather tasty lady, so why should the opinions of others make me unhappy. and the same goes for you. those that are nasty, dont forget, are probably still going to be sat, alone, tugging on their plug, while you are getting slammed by your gentleman friend. now who needs the sympathy shag? | |||
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"Our profile is 100% honest. Even our ages. The photo is of me (Jackie) and not some image off the net. Most mail I get is saying I'm too fat and ugly to be on this site. But that's the price of honesty.... People actually write to you saying that?!!
Had a few yes. I'd be greatful for a "mercy fuck" and "good luck you're going to need it" are two that come to mind. The thing is I have a partner so why would I need a mercy fuck ?
Quite sad really."I'm older and fatter than you and never had anyone be abusive about my size! Had loads telling me I'm up my own arse and opinionated, but I didn't see that as a bad thing!  | |||
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"I think honesty should be taken for granted here. Why lie? If you don't want people to know something leave it out. Or tell people after you've gotten to know them better. If you're lying about 1 thing why not others. I wonder how many people are hiding STI's. I can understand names being changed just incase but why anything else?" AT LAST - someone has got the point. Well done | |||
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"If this post did nothing else its allowed 2 greek gods (LOL) to vent their anger & moral outrage" Now, now! When we start threads or comment on them not everyone will agree with us. Let's not be undignified and snipe at others hey?  | |||
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"If this post did nothing else its allowed 2 greek gods (LOL) to vent their anger & moral outrage Now, now! When we start threads or comment on them not everyone will agree with us. Let's not be undignified and snipe at others hey? "But they haven't commented on the thread. They have commented on my character (is that grounds for reporting?) | |||
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"Yip I'd be the last person to be able to judge about someone cheating mate, the only thing I don't agree with when someone cheats on their partner and then feel so guilt they tell them and end up hurting them, if your man or women enough to cheat then you should put up with what ever feelings of regret you have. really???? so you feel that someone living with guilt (and lets be honest, you do it once and find you get away with it i doubt there is much guilt involved) is better than someones conscience getting the better of them and dealing with whatever emotional fallout accompanies it? do me a fiver!!! thats ridiculous!" . Are you saying that from personal experience, the let's be honest if you do it once, statment or something you just believe? Don't get me wrong I'm not having a go, but yes personally I am saying that people who tell their partners they cheated are just trying to make them self better, I'm sorry but I can't see the point in Purposely hurting someone, just to make you feel better,if someone cheated on me I'd rather not know tbh, what's the point in telling someone you been shagging around when all its going to do it hurt them and not change anything ? | |||
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"Yip I'd be the last person to be able to judge about someone cheating mate, the only thing I don't agree with when someone cheats on their partner and then feel so guilt they tell them and end up hurting them, if your man or women enough to cheat then you should put up with what ever feelings of regret you have. really???? so you feel that someone living with guilt (and lets be honest, you do it once and find you get away with it i doubt there is much guilt involved) is better than someones conscience getting the better of them and dealing with whatever emotional fallout accompanies it? do me a fiver!!! thats ridiculous!. Are you saying that from personal experience, the let's be honest if you do it once, statment or something you just believe? Don't get me wrong I'm not having a go, but yes personally I am saying that people who tell their partners they cheated are just trying to make them self better, I'm sorry but I can't see the point in Purposely hurting someone, just to make you feel better,if someone cheated on me I'd rather not know tbh, what's the point in telling someone you been shagging around when all its going to do it hurt them and not change anything ?" yes i am speaking from personal experience, not being the cheater, though, being the one that found out about it some time after it started. so yes, i would have MUCH rather she had a pair of balls and told me she no longer loved me/it wasnt working/she had found someone else, than to string me along for the final 8 months of our marriage, still taking everything i did for her/bought for her and so on, acting like nothing is wrong. then afterwards comes the self doubt, self loathing, hatred, questioning what i had done wrong, why it had happened and so on. is that enough of a reason for you? | |||
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"Yip I'd be the last person to be able to judge about someone cheating mate, the only thing I don't agree with when someone cheats on their partner and then feel so guilt they tell them and end up hurting them, if your man or women enough to cheat then you should put up with what ever feelings of regret you have. really???? so you feel that someone living with guilt (and lets be honest, you do it once and find you get away with it i doubt there is much guilt involved) is better than someones conscience getting the better of them and dealing with whatever emotional fallout accompanies it? do me a fiver!!! thats ridiculous!. Are you saying that from personal experience, the let's be honest if you do it once, statment or something you just believe? Don't get me wrong I'm not having a go, but yes personally I am saying that people who tell their partners they cheated are just trying to make them self better, I'm sorry but I can't see the point in Purposely hurting someone, just to make you feel better,if someone cheated on me I'd rather not know tbh, what's the point in telling someone you been shagging around when all its going to do it hurt them and not change anything ? yes i am speaking from personal experience, not being the cheater, though, being the one that found out about it some time after it started. so yes, i would have MUCH rather she had a pair of balls and told me she no longer loved me/it wasnt working/she had found someone else, than to string me along for the final 8 months of our marriage, still taking everything i did for her/bought for her and so on, acting like nothing is wrong. then afterwards comes the self doubt, self loathing, hatred, questioning what i had done wrong, why it had happened and so on. is that enough of a reason for you?" sorry, you specified the guilt part... yes, i know she felt no guilt because she felt what she was doing was not only ok, but right because she no longer loved me, so while i was providing comfort and stability for her, she was out having fun with whomever she felt. have said before and will do so again, the reasons behind it do not matter. justification only makes yourself feel better about it. its still wrong. oh, and this is herc speaking, not venus, before you start saying its just an over emotional woman | |||
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"If this post did nothing else its allowed 2 greek gods (LOL) to vent their anger & moral outrage Now, now! When we start threads or comment on them not everyone will agree with us. Let's not be undignified and snipe at others hey?
But they haven't commented on the thread. They have commented on my character (is that grounds for reporting?)"As far as I can see they've commented on your thread and it maybe uncomfortable for you but I can't see where they've commented on your character. | |||
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"Haven't said that its right and never would cheat is wrong end of, just that in my view and experience of it, there wasn't any point in shattering her heart just to make my self feel better as things wouldn't and couldn't change, ie famillys reaction, expectations and the such, so I didn't see the point in saying about it just to hurt her, I am sorry about your experience with it and hope you never go through it again, " so do i, but i still say its better to tell the person rather than let them find out. and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white. | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me." no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simples | |||
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"If this post did nothing else its allowed 2 greek gods (LOL) to vent their anger & moral outrage Now, now! When we start threads or comment on them not everyone will agree with us. Let's not be undignified and snipe at others hey?
But they haven't commented on the thread. They have commented on my character (is that grounds for reporting?)
As far as I can see they've commented on your thread and it maybe uncomfortable for you but I can't see where they've commented on your character. "'so because you are morally bankrupt everyone else should be?' 'the thread is about honesty, which you are not, plain and simple' 'all the time you are out trolling for any bit of spare fanny that shows any interest' The thread was about honesty in profiles. So explain how these apply to the OP? | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me. no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simples" Do you say the same to those who lie about other things? | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me. no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simplesDo you say the same to those who lie about other things?" if people lie about what they are complaining about then yes, of course, why wouldnt i? | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me. no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simplesDo you say the same to those who lie about other things? if people lie about what they are complaining about then yes, of course, why wouldnt i?" I'll type in capitals so you can read ut - WHERE HAVE I LIED ON MY PROFILE? | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me. no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simplesDo you say the same to those who lie about other things? if people lie about what they are complaining about then yes, of course, why wouldnt i?" The OP is complaining of dishonest profiles, of which there are a copious amount of, he has an honest profile from what I can see, people can choose to meet or not, he is not complaining about how people choose to live their lifes and moral issues, is he? | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me. no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simplesDo you say the same to those who lie about other things? if people lie about what they are complaining about then yes, of course, why wouldnt i?The OP is complaining of dishonest profiles, of which there are a copious amount of, he has an honest profile from what I can see, people can choose to meet or not, he is not complaining about how people choose to live their lifes and moral issues, is he? " | |||
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"'and OP, if you dont want you character questioned, then maybe you should make yourself snow white.' And you are? The topic was about profiles & obviously you didn't understand that. You would be happy to set a meet up for a couple & only a man turns up? You would be happy for a gay guy to turn up instead of a straight guy? You would be happy to arrange a met at their place only to turn up & be told they cant really? I don't think so. Sorry for your sad life but not my fault, but if it helps you can blame me. no, but thats what being particular is all about. not blaming anyone for my life, and its not sad, im who i am today because of everything, as is everyone. you may feel your profile is honest, but you are not. simplesDo you say the same to those who lie about other things? if people lie about what they are complaining about then yes, of course, why wouldnt i? I'll type in capitals so you can read ut - WHERE HAVE I LIED ON MY PROFILE?" If you are an honest person, you cant select the things you want to be honest about, and lie in other areas, honest is as honest does. if you love someone and are in a committed relationship, and cant be honest with that person, it just shows the real you and "honest " on a profile becomes very suspect. we are all adults and use our experience and knowledge to decide if we feel comfortable with someone or not. a profile is a marketing tool, and invitation, so by writing honest / reliable ect, we look at you and what you say to see if that carries through or not. as soon as someone mentions honesty, alarm bells ring, this is a sex chat site and swinging site, not sunday school. | |||
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