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"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!! "ive got 85p and a packet of rolo | |||
"I am by no means interested in football but is anyone really worth £85 Million?" I think it's ridiculous. Go back to the days when football was a hobby and they all had 'real' jobs. | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo"u have the thingy after the 85 and not before   | |||
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"I am by no means interested in football but is anyone really worth £85 Million?" Plus the 300k a week he'll be getting  | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
u have the thingy after the 85 and not before "That won't happen whilst there are still 'fans' out there who are more than happy to see their kids starve so they can attend away matches, have the latest replica top and pay the fines they incur for battering f*ck out of the opposition fans. Let's not kid anyone. This is no more than voluntary taxation. | |||
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"It's not a person it's an asset. If you invested £85 million building a manufacturing plant you would expect a return via an increase in profits due to increased sales and a reduced cost base. Buy buying Bale, they are expecting they will have a better position at maintaining or increasing their status in the champions league and as such a increase in TV revenue, gate revenue and championship league revenue." What they said.. 
Dont think Bales is worth it (now), perhaps if he can show he is able to produce a goal to games ratio of at least 1 goal for every 2 games (being a winger) - like Messi and Ronaldo with a near 1: 1 ratio.
Goals make points, which make profits! | |||
"I am by no means interested in football but is anyone really worth £85 Million?" Obviously yes, as that's what they've paid. £256,000 a week at 24 for kicking a football...lucky sod! | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
u have the thingy after the 85 and not before
That won't happen whilst there are still 'fans' out there who are more than happy to see their kids starve so they can attend away matches, have the latest replica top and pay the fines they incur for battering f*ck out of the opposition fans.
Let's not kid anyone. This is no more than voluntary taxation."Plenty of people put their pleasures before the welfare of their children. Not exclusive to football fans. | |||
"........... Goals make points, which make profits!" Are ANY football clubs, anywhere in the world, actually making a profit*? * that's a profit in genuine accounting standards terms. | |||
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"Without rsorting to googleI think the German clubs are very profitable and they are also fan owned" most of them yes - but so is Real Madrid and Barcelona fan based owned. | |||
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"Without rsorting to googleI think the German clubs are very profitable and they are also fan owned" its the 50 + 1 rule they use that seems to be working | |||
"It's ironic that Spain is in dire straits and out with a begging bowl to get bailed out and here is one business that can afford to remit £85 million for just one person. Simplistic view I know but just saying." There are children going to school in this country without shoes yet we pay millions to keep a royal family with enough wealth to support themselves. Aye, funny old world indeed. | |||
 but 300K a week!! is just wrong surely? | |||
"I think its a bit of a kick in the face (pardon the pun) for the normal people in the street who are all feeling the pinch and maybe cant afford to go and watch. These are, i suppose top players?... forgive me i know nothing about football but 300K a week!! is just wrong surely? "Why is it wrong? If someone offered you £300k a week for your skills I doubt you'd tell them that was wrong! | |||
"I think its a bit of a kick in the face (pardon the pun) for the normal people in the street who are all feeling the pinch and maybe cant afford to go and watch. These are, i suppose top players?... forgive me i know nothing about football but 300K a week!! is just wrong surely?
Why is it wrong? If someone offered you £300k a week for your skills I doubt you'd tell them that was wrong! " | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo"Now that IS fancy! | |||
"It's ironic that Spain is in dire straits and out with a begging bowl to get bailed out and here is one business that can afford to remit £85 million for just one person. Simplistic view I know but just saying. There are children going to school in this country without shoes yet we pay millions to keep a royal family with enough wealth to support themselves. Aye, funny old world indeed." We're kinda stuck with them through the system of taxation we use. Football fans choose to pay £silly and give it to already highly paid individuals. | |||
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"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
Now that IS fancy! "he didn't actually offer me either though lol   | |||
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"It's ironic that Spain is in dire straits and out with a begging bowl to get bailed out and here is one business that can afford to remit £85 million for just one person. Simplistic view I know but just saying. There are children going to school in this country without shoes yet we pay millions to keep a royal family with enough wealth to support themselves. Aye, funny old world indeed." Kids going to school without shoes, what has that got to do with what they pay for a player or what wages he"s being paid, Is that not down to the kid parents | |||
"It's ironic that Spain is in dire straits and out with a begging bowl to get bailed out and here is one business that can afford to remit £85 million for just one person. Simplistic view I know but just saying. There are children going to school in this country without shoes yet we pay millions to keep a royal family with enough wealth to support themselves. Aye, funny old world indeed. Kids going to school without shoes, what has that got to do with what they pay for a player or what wages he"s being paid, Is that not down to the kid parents" the same parents that would rather smoke 40 a day and drink to excess 7 nights a week. genuinely don't think there are children going to school without shoes so guess it was just terminology | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
Now that IS fancy!
he didn't actually offer me either though lol "check your pm there's a offer in the post  x | |||
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"It's ironic that Spain is in dire straits and out with a begging bowl to get bailed out and here is one business that can afford to remit £85 million for just one person. Simplistic view I know but just saying. There are children going to school in this country without shoes yet we pay millions to keep a royal family with enough wealth to support themselves. Aye, funny old world indeed. Kids going to school without shoes, what has that got to do with what they pay for a player or what wages he"s being paid, Is that not down to the kid parents" The point I'm trying to make is we live in a funny old world. We demonise people on benefits yet happily fund a family with unimmaginable wealth. Dictators have private jets yet their people are dying of hunger...a funny old world. | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
Now that IS fancy!
he didn't actually offer me either though lol
check your pm there's a offer in the post x"whoooo hoooo I've pulled | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
Now that IS fancy!
he didn't actually offer me either though lol
check your pm there's a offer in the post x
whoooo hoooo I've pulled "subject to terms and conditions | |||
".... Dictators have private jets yet their people are dying of hunger...a funny old world." There's a Tory MP always on the telly banging on about how he 'gets' poverty whilst he's unable to lift his wrist for the weight of gold in his watch. | |||
"yeah I am but no one's come in for me yet!!
ive got 85p and a packet of rolo
Now that IS fancy!
he didn't actually offer me either though lol
check your pm there's a offer in the post x
whoooo hoooo I've pulled
subject to terms and conditions "yeah and a revised offer from you and someone answering my other question about the transfer deadline lol | |||
"I am by no means interested in football but is anyone really worth £85 Million?" My children? No wait, they're priceless . . . | |||
"I am by no means interested in football but is anyone really worth £85 Million?" Worth has nothing to do with price, Its about Tax, perceived value, marketing, and 101 other things, | |||
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"I'm always bemused when threads descend into drawing comparisons about wasteful or extravagant spending when I live in a country whose population spends a couple of “billion” quid each a year just feeding their domestic pets....
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"I'm always bemused when threads descend into drawing comparisons about wasteful or extravagant spending when I live in a country whose population spends a couple of “billion” quid each a year just feeding their domestic pets....
"Yes, but no-one is spending 2 billion quid feeding just one pet! | |||
"revised offer made x" where?? it must have got lost in the post!! | |||
"I'm always bemused when threads descend into drawing comparisons about wasteful or extravagant spending when I live in a country whose population spends a couple of “billion” quid each a year just feeding their domestic pets....
Yes, but no-one is spending 2 billion quid feeding just one pet!"he said the population spend that not 1 person | |||
"I'm always bemused when threads descend into drawing comparisons about wasteful or extravagant spending when I live in a country whose population spends a couple of “billion” quid each a year just feeding their domestic pets....
Yes, but no-one is spending 2 billion quid feeding just one pet!"Exactly..... no-one person should dictate how another person should spend their own money... | |||
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"I'm always bemused when threads descend into drawing comparisons about wasteful or extravagant spending when I live in a country whose population spends a couple of “billion” quid each a year just feeding their domestic pets....
Yes, but no-one is spending 2 billion quid feeding just one pet!"Retracts my earlier | |||
"Yes. The great people who tirelessly work on curing cancer, HIV, heart disease, malaria - these are the people worth 85 million. The doctors who give life to babies with heart defects. They are worth 85 million. Some thug who can kick a football and make the tabloids because of their aberrant behavior. You could send them all to the firing squad and the world wouldn't be the poorer for it. " whilst the first part of your post has merit, however misguided it may be, how do you come to the conclusion gareth bale is a thug who exhibits abhorrent behaviour? | |||
".... Dictators have private jets yet their people are dying of hunger...a funny old world. There's a Tory MP always on the telly banging on about how he 'gets' poverty whilst he's unable to lift his wrist for the weight of gold in his watch." There you go! | |||
"Yes. The great people who tirelessly work on curing cancer, HIV, heart disease, malaria - these are the people worth 85 million. The doctors who give life to babies with heart defects. They are worth 85 million. Some thug who can kick a football and make the tabloids because of their aberrant behavior. You could send them all to the firing squad and the world wouldn't be the poorer for it. whilst the first part of your post has merit, however misguided it may be, how do you come to the conclusion gareth bale is a thug who exhibits abhorrent behaviour?" Perhaps more importantly, how did YOU? | |||
"Yes. The great people who tirelessly work on curing cancer, HIV, heart disease, malaria - these are the people worth 85 million. The doctors who give life to babies with heart defects. They are worth 85 million. Some thug who can kick a football and make the tabloids because of their aberrant behavior. You could send them all to the firing squad and the world wouldn't be the poorer for it. whilst the first part of your post has merit, however misguided it may be, how do you come to the conclusion gareth bale is a thug who exhibits abhorrent behaviour?" My second part was not aimed at anyone specific player - which wasn't possible as clear as it should be. Tell you what, I retract it all, because I can't be arsed to argue the merits of the obscenity that is Premier Football. There you win. Carry on. | |||
"I'm always bemused when threads descend into drawing comparisons about wasteful or extravagant spending when I live in a country whose population spends a couple of “billion” quid each a year just feeding their domestic pets....
"difference is that's 50 million people spend £10 a week on their pet and there are 40 million pets, giving joy and a sense of purpose to 50 million people, cheaper than alcohol or medication, pets are fantastic stress busters, and caring dogs are now being used in NHS to aid peoples recovery. | |||
"Yes. The great people who tirelessly work on curing cancer, HIV, heart disease, malaria - these are the people worth 85 million. The doctors who give life to babies with heart defects. They are worth 85 million. Some thug who can kick a football and make the tabloids because of their aberrant behavior. You could send them all to the firing squad and the world wouldn't be the poorer for it. whilst the first part of your post has merit, however misguided it may be, how do you come to the conclusion gareth bale is a thug who exhibits abhorrent behaviour? My second part was not aimed at anyone specific player - which wasn't possible as clear as it should be. Tell you what, I retract it all, because I can't be arsed to argue the merits of the obscenity that is Premier Football. There you win. Carry on. " im not arguing it either. the fans are the ones that are short changed every time, whilst the clubs carry on carrying on (my wn club is treating us like idiots saying we are overachieving and dont deserve to be where we are, wanker boards) you specifically said a thug that can kick a ball isnt worth 85 mill, thats only 1 player then, as its a world record bid, so not every player, thug or not, has that price/value. what value would be put on players in your mind? they cant be worthless as they bring millions in revenue to the club, put bums on seats and provide entertainment to those that enjoy, and equally hate the sport, as they seem to spend as much time moaning about it as those that like it spend hyping it up lol | |||
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"What's with the comments about football fans paying silly money ? Granted prices have increased and Granted its no longer a game for the working class male Which I think is tragic However putting things into perspective People don't bat an eyelid when going to a concert Or even a game of golf can be expensive these days What about people spending £7 on a packet of fags ? It's all relative to what you enjoy and how much you are willing to pay for that pleasure" last time i went to a game, i spent £60 on 2 tickets, for 1 1/2 hours of entertainment. thats £20 per hour, each, times another 25k people. a pack of fags can last you all day, or more, depending on your habit, so can be considered reasonable value golf, depending how bad you are (personally, 3 hours for 9 holes @£15 a round) is reasonable value, and a nice walk. so no, football in the upper areas of the league is NOT value for the fans at all. even my local non league club costs more than a tenner for a game, although thats much much better | |||
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"What's with the comments about football fans paying silly money ? ............" You a football supporter who goes to games? How much (roughly) is a ticket? | |||
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"The agents, who weren't needed a while back. Transfers were conducted between managers & chairmen "dont see how agents take MOST money from transfers. the agent that made the bale move happen, or rather helped it, isnt going to get the lions share of that money. | |||
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"one would suggest most money taken OUT of football is the players wages. i very much doubt they plough their earnings back into the game, in any way shape or form. more often cars, property, boob jobs and so on lol" Ah so basically are we saying all that money ends up back in the wider economy in the pockets of everyday folk who work manufacturing and supplying the goods and services these players spend the huge salaries on… Coz that cant be such a bad thing, can it…? | |||
"one would suggest most money taken OUT of football is the players wages. i very much doubt they plough their earnings back into the game, in any way shape or form. more often cars, property, boob jobs and so on lol Ah so basically are we saying all that money ends up back in the wider economy in the pockets of everyday folk who work manufacturing and supplying the goods and services these players spend the huge salaries on… Coz that cant be such a bad thing, can it…? "soxy, the destination of the money isnt my argument, i have no problem with players being paid what clubs deem them to be worth. my argument was with the comment agents take the most of the money from the game. it is not by accident that areas around football clubs are quite affluent areas, so of course the money being spent in that way is a good thing | |||
"The agents, who weren't needed a while back. Transfers were conducted between managers & chairmen "I suppose it's only a matter of time before agents have agents. | |||
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"one would suggest most money taken OUT of football is the players wages. i very much doubt they plough their earnings back into the game, in any way shape or form. more often cars, property, boob jobs and so on lol Ah so basically are we saying all that money ends up back in the wider economy in the pockets of everyday folk who work manufacturing and supplying the goods and services these players spend the huge salaries on… Coz that cant be such a bad thing, can it…?
soxy, the destination of the money isnt my argument, i have no problem with players being paid what clubs deem them to be worth.
my argument was with the comment agents take the most of the money from the game.
it is not by accident that areas around football clubs are quite affluent areas, so of course the money being spent in that way is a good thing"Yes I agree independent agents are a parasitically breed that could easily be replaced by a set of structured official guidelines that take into account the financial demands of the modern game and the worth of it’s prize assets.. But I understand until such time as that happens (if indeed it ever does). Players will need some form of independent representation when it comes to negotiating the terms and conditions of their contracts in a free market where their own life skills may not be best suited to finding the best deal for themselves… | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please?" How many football matches up and down the country and around the world in a year? How many GPs? | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? How many football matches up and down the country and around the world in a year? How many GPs?" What's that got to do with anything? Shows what good value my ticket is doesn't it? | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please?" if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol" You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy? | |||
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"one would suggest most money taken OUT of football is the players wages. i very much doubt they plough their earnings back into the game, in any way shape or form. more often cars, property, boob jobs and so on lol Ah so basically are we saying all that money ends up back in the wider economy in the pockets of everyday folk who work manufacturing and supplying the goods and services these players spend the huge salaries on… Coz that cant be such a bad thing, can it…? "Soxy, from this post and others, you seem to place a lot of faith in the economic multipler effect, yeah? What about the multiplier effect of the downside? In simple terms, people living beyond their means, maybe in debt, unrealistic aspirations? For Gareth Bale, good luck to the bloke, for millions of others not so good in the long run. | |||
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" Re Agents. Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the agent for Willian, that Kai Joorabachian(sp?)chappie the same one who acted for Tevez and Mascherano(sp?) ( that Liverpool footballer)causing a whole load of grief to West Ham and Sheff Utd amongst others. Yet Liverpool, Tottenham and Chelsea still want to do business with him? Fact of life for big clubs. IMO, it is of course weird that the season has started before the transfer window has closed." the issue with the tevez/mascherano deals was that joorabchian was a part owner, rather than just an agent, and they didnt buy the players they merely borrowed them, and the premier league does not recognise 3rd partty ownership, whereas with will.i.an chelski have bought him outright, wether he WAS part owned by joorabchian is neither her nor there anymore | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy?" but im not mad enough to watch go and watch them week in week out. if i wanna see shite on a field, i have farmers local lol | |||
"Awww ya gotta love the way that only in forums you can attempt to make a salient point by trying to compare the price of apples and oranges….. "Well what else can you compare prices too? | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy?" nexgen cup last season where are u21 youngsters beat some of the best teams in Europe. its not just about trophy's its about class and being owned by a dog eating, dodgy, lady boy doesn't show any | |||
" Re Agents. Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the agent for Willian, that Kai Joorabachian(sp?)chappie the same one who acted for Tevez and Mascherano(sp?) ( that Liverpool footballer)causing a whole load of grief to West Ham and Sheff Utd amongst others. Yet Liverpool, Tottenham and Chelsea still want to do business with him? Fact of life for big clubs. IMO, it is of course weird that the season has started before the transfer window has closed. the issue with the tevez/mascherano deals was that joorabchian was a part owner, rather than just an agent, and they didnt buy the players they merely borrowed them, and the premier league does not recognise 3rd partty ownership, whereas with will.i.an chelski have bought him outright, wether he WAS part owned by joorabchian is neither her nor there anymore" True what you say about 3rd party ownership. Not saying its a factor in Willian, just that two big clubs thought they had done a deal with him (the agent), only to fnd they hadn't. Yet such clubs still deal with the agents, always will. As Murinho laughingly implied, it saved Chelsea doing a medical. | |||
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"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy? nexgen cup last season where are u21 youngsters beat some of the best teams in Europe. its not just about trophy's its about class and being owned by a dog eating, dodgy, lady boy doesn't show any "An invitation cup? How many teams competed? As for class? I remember the begging letters to Gareth Barry in the local paper!Classy. | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy? nexgen cup last season where are u21 youngsters beat some of the best teams in Europe. its not just about trophy's its about class and being owned by a dog eating, dodgy, lady boy doesn't show any An invitation cup? How many teams competed? As for class? I remember the begging letters to Gareth Barry in the local paper!Classy. "only a few small clubs you might have heard of ? think the clue is in the word invited ajax, Anderlecht, arsenal, bilbao, Dortmund, Chelsea, pfc, juventus, olympiacos, paris st germain, Barcelona, celtic, fernabache, inter Milan, Liverpool, man city, Marseille, molde, psv, sporting Lisbon, spurs, wolsburg and as for begging letters to barry in the paper how many letters were there 10,50,100 ? out of an average gate of 35000 that's pretty worthless money laundering isn't it ? | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy? nexgen cup last season where are u21 youngsters beat some of the best teams in Europe. its not just about trophy's its about class and being owned by a dog eating, dodgy, lady boy doesn't show any An invitation cup? How many teams competed? As for class? I remember the begging letters to Gareth Barry in the local paper!Classy.
only a few small clubs you might have heard of ? think the clue is in the word invited
ajax, Anderlecht, arsenal, bilbao, Dortmund, Chelsea, pfc, juventus, olympiacos, paris st germain, Barcelona, celtic, fernabache, inter Milan, Liverpool, man city, Marseille, molde, psv, sporting Lisbon, spurs, wolsburg
and as for begging letters to barry in the paper how many letters were there 10,50,100 ? out of an average gate of 35000 that's pretty worthless
money laundering isn't it ? "Many more letters than that. The rest are too dumb to be able to write? You lot still wearing pink and baby blue? | |||
"It's ironic that Spain is in dire straits and out with a begging bowl to get bailed out and here is one business that can afford to remit £85 million for just one person. Simplistic view I know but just saying." Real Madrid is a business, the national debts of a nation have nothing to do with an individual business. | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? if villa, ok. if blues, whatever you pay for your ticket will only ever be a waste of money lol You evil swine.lol Remind me when you last won a trophy? nexgen cup last season where are u21 youngsters beat some of the best teams in Europe. its not just about trophy's its about class and being owned by a dog eating, dodgy, lady boy doesn't show any An invitation cup? How many teams competed? As for class? I remember the begging letters to Gareth Barry in the local paper!Classy.
only a few small clubs you might have heard of ? think the clue is in the word invited
ajax, Anderlecht, arsenal, bilbao, Dortmund, Chelsea, pfc, juventus, olympiacos, paris st germain, Barcelona, celtic, fernabache, inter Milan, Liverpool, man city, Marseille, molde, psv, sporting Lisbon, spurs, wolsburg
and as for begging letters to barry in the paper how many letters were there 10,50,100 ? out of an average gate of 35000 that's pretty worthless
money laundering isn't it ? Many more letters than that. The rest are too dumb to be able to write? You lot still wearing pink and baby blue?"didn't realise that colour blindness was one of the symptoms of being a bluenose ? not going to reply again as I can see it going downhill and a ban coming on for me, ps don't forget to pay the library for using there computer might see you later in the season, oh shit sorry your in a lower league  | |||
"I am by no means interested in football but is anyone really worth £85 Million?" I am | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? How many football matches up and down the country and around the world in a year? How many GPs? What's that got to do with anything? Shows what good value my ticket is doesn't it?" It's about supply v demand. | |||
"My season ticket(paid for in 8 monthly instalments) costs me around 17 pounds a game. remind me how much is a Grand Prix ticket please? How many football matches up and down the country and around the world in a year? How many GPs?" Too fecking many How people can pay hundreds of pounds to sit and watch cars drive past at 200 mph astounds me The only way is pay to see such tosh is I they sent half the cars the wrong way round ... That would liven the dull Sport up A guy I know commented only last week that it was cheaper for him and his wife to fly out to Barcelona , hotel and train fare and entrance to the Grand Prix than it was for him to attend the uk one Work that one out Besides its all about the car Put a trained monkey in the best car and you will have same outcome | |||
I'm worth at LEAST 90 | |||
"Someone (or something) is only worth what someone else will pay for it." Indeed! | |||
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