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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?"
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body. "
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too.  |
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too. "
There's hidden bodies then there's hidden bodies.
Frankly if a pal accidentally killed a bullying , cheating , lying , violent bastard I could keep my loyalty to them .....and my mouth shut. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's always a limit.
I will fight tooth and nail to protect my friends/family but I wouldn't help them if they were the aggressor. I would, however, try to talk them into a different course of action.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"There's always a limit.
I will fight tooth and nail to protect my friends/family but I wouldn't help them if they were the aggressor. I would, however, try to talk them into a different course of action.."
That's a good point although many would jump in to help even if the friend was the aggressor. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too.
There's hidden bodies then there's hidden bodies.
Frankly if a pal accidentally killed a bullying , cheating , lying , violent bastard I could keep my loyalty to them .....and my mouth shut."
Even if that person had a family that were grieving and not knowing what happened to their loved one? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's always a limit.
I will fight tooth and nail to protect my friends/family but I wouldn't help them if they were the aggressor. I would, however, try to talk them into a different course of action..
That's a good point although many would jump in to help even if the friend was the aggressor."
I would jump in only to break things up and try to stop a bad situation worse. I wouldn't knowingly help someone instigate trouble... |
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too.
There's hidden bodies then there's hidden bodies.
Frankly if a pal accidentally killed a bullying , cheating , lying , violent bastard I could keep my loyalty to them .....and my mouth shut.
Even if that person had a family that were grieving and not knowing what happened to their loved one? "
That brings in more things to consider.
If the family were of the same ilk then yes my loyalty remains.
If the family were decent human folk and I though their pain was hurting them then my loyalty could be called into question.
If the family were decent human folk and I thought worse things would happen if I 'told' then they'd have to suffer while I kept quiet.
Nothing's easy. |
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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago
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"There's always a limit.
I will fight tooth and nail to protect my friends/family but I wouldn't help them if they were the aggressor. I would, however, try to talk them into a different course of action..
That's a good point although many would jump in to help even if the friend was the aggressor.
I would jump in only to break things up and try to stop a bad situation worse. I wouldn't knowingly help someone instigate trouble..."
Totally agree. |
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"I wouldn't help anyone hiding the body of a person they had killed. I just wouldn't and no argument as to the character of the dead person would dissuade me."
Then in that respect for you it's absolute. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too.
There's hidden bodies then there's hidden bodies.
Frankly if a pal accidentally killed a bullying , cheating , lying , violent bastard I could keep my loyalty to them .....and my mouth shut.
Even if that person had a family that were grieving and not knowing what happened to their loved one?
That brings in more things to consider.
If the family were of the same ilk then yes my loyalty remains.
If the family were decent human folk and I though their pain was hurting them then my loyalty could be called into question.
If the family were decent human folk and I thought worse things would happen if I 'told' then they'd have to suffer while I kept quiet.
Nothing's easy. "
Its not I thought it was a pretty easy question when talking earlier to a friend but the more you think into it the more difficult it is to answer. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There's always a limit.
I will fight tooth and nail to protect my friends/family but I wouldn't help them if they were the aggressor. I would, however, try to talk them into a different course of action..
That's a good point although many would jump in to help even if the friend was the aggressor.
I would jump in only to break things up and try to stop a bad situation worse. I wouldn't knowingly help someone instigate trouble..."
Well its a positive way to go but at this rate you might be the body that has been unearthed in this thread if you did. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"I wouldn't help anyone hiding the body of a person they had killed. I just wouldn't and no argument as to the character of the dead person would dissuade me.
Then in that respect for you it's absolute."
Yup - afraid so. |
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too.
There's hidden bodies then there's hidden bodies.
Frankly if a pal accidentally killed a bullying , cheating , lying , violent bastard I could keep my loyalty to them .....and my mouth shut.
Even if that person had a family that were grieving and not knowing what happened to their loved one?
That brings in more things to consider.
If the family were of the same ilk then yes my loyalty remains.
If the family were decent human folk and I though their pain was hurting them then my loyalty could be called into question.
If the family were decent human folk and I thought worse things would happen if I 'told' then they'd have to suffer while I kept quiet.
Nothing's easy.
Its not I thought it was a pretty easy question when talking earlier to a friend but the more you think into it the more difficult it is to answer. "
I know.
Without thinking i'd immediately say ...No id never stick up for someone who killed and hid a body....
Life isn't that simple. |
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Who says that revealing the body would be a disloyal thing to do. I would remain loyal to Jen and the kids until the four horsemen popped down for a stroll...
If any of them confessed to a murder to me, my entire efforts and loyalty would need to be in helping them to seek the help they need, and protecting them from further soul destroying actions.
The police would become involved, preferably their via their own admission rather than my belief that it is the best thing that could be done for them.
Is that disloyal?
I don't think loyalty has limits, I do think that loyalty requires thought as well as emotion.
M. |
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By *unPeteMan
over a year ago
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body.
Hmmm the hidden body would stretch loyalty to or past my limit I think too.
There's hidden bodies then there's hidden bodies.
Frankly if a pal accidentally killed a bullying , cheating , lying , violent bastard I could keep my loyalty to them .....and my mouth shut.
Even if that person had a family that were grieving and not knowing what happened to their loved one?
That brings in more things to consider.
If the family were of the same ilk then yes my loyalty remains.
If the family were decent human folk and I though their pain was hurting them then my loyalty could be called into question.
If the family were decent human folk and I thought worse things would happen if I 'told' then they'd have to suffer while I kept quiet.
Nothing's easy. "
Hell if the price was right I'd keep schtum (and I am very cheap!)  |
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"Who says that revealing the body would be a disloyal thing to do. I would remain loyal to Jen and the kids until the four horsemen popped down for a stroll...
If any of them confessed to a murder to me, my entire efforts and loyalty would need to be in helping them to seek the help they need, and protecting them from further soul destroying actions.
The police would become involved, preferably their via their own admission rather than my belief that it is the best thing that could be done for them.
Is that disloyal?
I don't think loyalty has limits, I do think that loyalty requires thought as well as emotion.
M."
Sould destroying ? Needing help ?
You seem to have assumed that they killed in cold blood for the joy of it .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's always a limit.
I will fight tooth and nail to protect my friends/family but I wouldn't help them if they were the aggressor. I would, however, try to talk them into a different course of action..
That's a good point although many would jump in to help even if the friend was the aggressor.
I would jump in only to break things up and try to stop a bad situation worse. I wouldn't knowingly help someone instigate trouble...
Well its a positive way to go but at this rate you might be the body that has been unearthed in this thread if you did. "
Many have tried already!..  |
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No, I just assume that whether it was intentional, or accidental - they aren't going to be the person they were before it happened. I don't think anyone could be...
Would I prefer they spend their lives running from themselves, or the police or any number of other things, or that they brought themselves around as responsible and held up their hands, and allowed things to run their course with the support that was required...
I know what I'd rather someone did for me!
But in that case, it was the most extreme thing I could think of |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?
I think there would be a limit. If my best friend asked me to keep a secret I would, unless it involved where they had hidden the body. "
For the few very close friends I have that I am loyal to, that wouldn't be a secret as I've had helped dig the hole! lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it absolute or do you have a limit?"
Depends in what "mode" your talking..
Dating, yeah I'm loyal, never cheated..wouldn't do it in a billion years, been close but never went through with it.
In life in general?
I can be yeah depends:
*who it is
*what's involved
*who else is involved
*what I know about the situation/event/problem
Sometimes if I think something ain't right/doesn't look right in my head, I'll make a split second decision. I have done.
If something ain't right ...it ain't right. |
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