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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"any arsenal fans think he's lost it and needs to go??"
nope..... if he goes you have to get a replacement..... who is going to be better,
unless you can guarentee me jurgen klopp, I am not interested in that discussion...
the board on the other hand... I know I few I'd like to give the heave-ho to! |
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I have never known a team that pretty much knows where it's going to finish at the end of every season before its started!!
Surely Wenger can see that they haven't got the team to win or challenge for the league and they haven't for years but he thinks saving his money is the answer.
I'm a Liverpool fan and although we've finished near the bottom of the top half the last few seasons at least we swim against the tide every now and again and win a cup. Would rather that than finish 4th every year.... ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Fuck me. One game into the season.... "
Yeah. I agree. Early doors but still not happy as with the current squad, we should have won that game.
Wenger must stay and must stop dithering and be decisive. This season has the foundations to be Arsenal's year with Fergie retiring and the other members of the "big four" changing managers. It's open season on the league. Wenger should have landed Higuain for £30 million but dawdled on the price only to try and go £10 million more to try and land Suarez. Why?!
No point in bragging about money if you're not spending it. ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
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"any arsenal fans think he's lost it and needs to go??
nope..... if he goes you have to get a replacement..... who is going to be better,
unless you can guarentee me jurgen klopp, I am not interested in that discussion...
the board on the other hand... I know I few I'd like to give the heave-ho to!"
How about Alan Partridge? ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wenger's past 8 years have caught up with him I feel when trying to make new signings. The intent has been there, but 8 years and no trophy see's some players moving on.
Not 100% his fault though. And the defeat at the weekend wasn't down to him.
I'm 100% certain he will make challenge for 4th spot or higher again this season. But he needs to sort out losing to lower league teams in the cups. Arsenal are easily capable of a cup run
So no, I don't think its Wenger's time to go. And which managers are available? Arsenal want a top quality manager and they are all in top quality jobs...? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wenger is the 3rd highest paid football manager in the world. I can only assume his wage is not performance related! The Gunners will not qualify for the CL next year... it will be very funny if they get knocked out of the qualifiers this year! |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Wenger is the 3rd highest paid football manager in the world. I can only assume his wage is not performance related! The Gunners will not qualify for the CL next year... it will be very funny if they get knocked out of the qualifiers this year!" with bad hair ![](/icons/s/razz.gif) |
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
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Wegner is he tries to use his economics degree too much at arsenal. Happy to waste millions on rubbish players like Santos and Metersacker, yet won't spend the market rate on quality players.
The wage structure at arsenal has been wrong for quite a while - he is happy for the average players like to Denilson, Schillachi and Bendtner to be over £50,000 a week when they have done nothing to warrant being paid that much, yet won't pay top dollar to established quality players. Arsenal have been trying all round europe to get rid of Bendtner but no-one will pay him what he is on at arsenal, even when the fee has been agreed. Look at arsenals wage bill and its far bigger than Spurs, yet they only just beat them to 4th spot last season. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not worried one bit.
People have been saying for years that Arsenal won't make the top four but what happens? Wenger always pulls it off. Despite the magic of Bale.
Yes we should've paid what was required to get the top class players. Don't like Suarez so I'm happy for him to stay at Liverpool.
The team played well against Villa but bad defending and dodgy refereeing cost us the game.
Everyone will write us off but I'm confident Wenger will sort the problem out and get us back up the league table.
FFS it's just one game. I'd rather be in our position than Birmingham, Portsmouth or Wigan. All recent cup winners.
Get behind the team and support them through thick and thin.
That's what supporters do
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Every fan saying they are happy with 4th . Don't you want to see your team kick on and maybe challenge for 3rd or 2nd and then go for the title....I would rather win a trophy every now and again then get 4th every year and see your club stagnate....Arsenal have the money to compete with the top clubs, a great manager, a fantastic stadium and a good business model but Wenger needs to change the attitude of the club that 4th is like winning the league now! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not worried one bit.
People have been saying for years that Arsenal won't make the top four but what happens? Wenger always pulls it off. Despite the magic of Bale.
Yes we should've paid what was required to get the top class players. Don't like Suarez so I'm happy for him to stay at Liverpool.
The team played well against Villa but bad defending and dodgy refereeing cost us the game.
Everyone will write us off but I'm confident Wenger will sort the problem out and get us back up the league table.
FFS it's just one game. I'd rather be in our position than Birmingham, Portsmouth or Wigan. All recent cup winners.
Get behind the team and support them through thick and thin.
That's what supporters do
Silk"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" I stopped a bloke in the street and said, Can you help me?
I'm looking for a rubbish tip."
He said,
"Arsenal to win the Premiership."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not an arsenal fan, but enjoy the way they play... Up until this season they've not the big bucks that utd, city, Chelsea, Liverpool and to a certain extent Tottenham have had to spend on multiple big signings each season.
Despite all that, he has maintained a steady position both in the league and financially, while others have either done well as expected, given the dosh they've spent, or floundered. He's made a few transfer blunders, as have most managers...but overall I think he's done tremendously well. The next two seasons will be interesting....now he's got a bigger bank balance. It could be that some players are waiting on their champs league qualification.....time will tell, but it's certainly too early to say!
"Not worried one bit.
People have been saying for years that Arsenal won't make the top four but what happens? Wenger always pulls it off. Despite the magic of Bale.
Yes we should've paid what was required to get the top class players. Don't like Suarez so I'm happy for him to stay at Liverpool.
The team played well against Villa but bad defending and dodgy refereeing cost us the game.
Everyone will write us off but I'm confident Wenger will sort the problem out and get us back up the league table.
FFS it's just one game. I'd rather be in our position than Birmingham, Portsmouth or Wigan. All recent cup winners.
Get behind the team and support them through thick and thin.
That's what supporters do
Silk
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i am a gooner through and through but i just think he is losing it. spurs are even with the times and spending the money the mugsmashers look to have a good team this season so that leaves us fighting harder than before for 4th spot if at all. no point in looking above 4th arsenal aint strong this season and its not my view just after one game its a view of looking at the squad and looking at wenger he just looks on edge and well not botherd.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Every fan saying they are happy with 4th . Don't you want to see your team kick on and maybe challenge for 3rd or 2nd and then go for the title....I would rather win a trophy every now and again then get 4th every year and see your club stagnate....Arsenal have the money to compete with the top clubs, a great manager, a fantastic stadium and a good business model but Wenger needs to change the attitude of the club that 4th is like winning the league now! "
Am I happy with finishing 4th every season? Of course not.
Do I want us to be ambitious and and challenge for the title? Yes I do.
Just because we're a big club with a lot of money to spend doesn't mean we're entitled to win a trophy.
I'm sorry but I'm not having Arsenal playing in the Europa League on a Thursday night. I'd rather we didn't qualify for Europe at all.
The board need to sort out how they finalise transfers cos at the moment it looks shambolic.
But listen.... I've supported the club long enough to remember the days when we were languishing around mid-table, Highbury half full, no champions league and winning the odd domestic trophy.
Do I want those mediocre days of the mid 90's to come back? No way!
Sometimes you have to be grateful for the position you find yourself in life.
Why bankrupt ourselves so we can end up like Leeds/Nottingham Forest etc... and be in the championship?
No thanks. When we're in danger of being relegated in April/May, then I'll start to complain.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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I agree... you have to look at the way dick law and ivan gazidis conduct the transfer business, and they look inept at the moment
bring back david dein, let usmanov have a seat on the board
I hate the way the AST has gone about this.... the issue is the transfer policy and wenger isn't the one conducting those....
I am more pissed off at the board than I am at wenger... |
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I really don't get it.
He or the board? only had to add the odd quality player like a center half or goalie at the right time to have a challenging side,
But now he needs around 4 quality players it's crazy !!
But being a saints fan i think getting £10k every time the OX plays 20 mins is great |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"I really don't get it.
He or the board? only had to add the odd quality player like a center half or goalie at the right time to have a challenging side,
But now he needs around 4 quality players it's crazy !!
But being a saints fan i think getting £10k every time the OX plays 20 mins is great "
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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do love all these premiershite fans moaning after just one game
think they should try being a fan off a team like stockport county now in the conferance north having within the last ten years finnished within a couple of points of the championship playoffs but due poor financial managment they are where they are now THAT is something to complain about not loosing one fucking game ffs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"do love all these premiershite fans moaning after just one game
think they should try being a fan off a team like stockport county now in the conferance north having within the last ten years finnished within a couple of points of the championship playoffs but due poor financial managment they are where they are now THAT is something to complain about not loosing one fucking game ffs"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I really don't get it.
He or the board? only had to add the odd quality player like a center half or goalie at the right time to have a challenging side,
But now he needs around 4 quality players it's crazy !!
But being a saints fan i think getting £10k every time the OX plays 20 mins is great "
No money for you for the next 6 months then! ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" I stopped a bloke in the street and said, Can you help me?
I'm looking for a rubbish tip."
He said,
"Arsenal to win the Premiership."
"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This kind da thing makes me laugh coz if it weren't for winger then arsenal would be nowhere now, he took them from mid table to champions, playing some of the best football ever seen, and that's from a man utd fan |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
can we put away the "arsenal in crisis" headlines for 72hrs now...
the good thing about the away win in that manner is that another player not joining because of possibly no champions league footie has had that taken from them |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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He's forced to sell his best players,at the end of every season,and people still expect trophies.
He's a football manager,not Jesus.
If arsenal fans want him out,and he goes,top four will be but a dream,prepare for mid table mediocrity.
Ungrateful wretches.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He's forced to sell his best players,at the end of every season,and people still expect trophies.
He's a football manager,not Jesus.
If arsenal fans want him out,and he goes,top four will be but a dream,prepare for mid table mediocrity.
Ungrateful wretches.
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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i'm thinking all those calling for wenger's head,must be feeling pretty embarrassed right now.
his signing of Ozil,was genius,not only did it turn the tide of selling his best players,it also signified a heightened ambition,breathing a renewed confidence throughout the whole team.
plus arsenal play the beautiful game,in the most perfectly beautiful way.
arsenal fans be happy,your time is coming ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i'm thinking all those calling for wenger's head,must be feeling pretty embarrassed right now.
his signing of Ozil,was genius,not only did it turn the tide of selling his best players,it also signified a heightened ambition,breathing a renewed confidence throughout the whole team.
plus arsenal play the beautiful game,in the most perfectly beautiful way.
arsenal fans be happy,your time is coming " wenger is the best manager around ...and im a spurs fan |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Brilliant to be a gooner atm! Özil is just wow, ramsey is on the form of his life, top of the league, a host of players coming back from injury and wengerball at it's finest...happy days! ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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glad this thread came back up... you can see who backed wenger and who jumped off the wagon...
p.s I still hate the board... but I am beginning to hate the supporters groups as much (especially the AST!) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"glad this thread came back up... you can see who backed wenger and who jumped off the wagon...
p.s I still hate the board... but I am beginning to hate the supporters groups as much (especially the AST!)"
Haha!! Ain't that the truth.
I've always stood by Wenger and it's here for all to see! ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'll give it to wenger he's made a great signing in ozil.
Signing of the season I'd say "
nope.
any £60 million player is going to improve a team.
a great payer, so far, but arsenals best signing for me is getting Flamini back
glad i never jump on these manager out bandwagons lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"wish i never started this thread lol wow how wrong was i, dont think they will win the leauge tho"
are you going to regret this post as much as the thread in 6 months time? lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"wish i never started this thread lol wow how wrong was i, dont think they will win the leauge tho
are you going to regret this post as much as the thread in 6 months time? lol"
Ha ha ha awesome. Genius. And back under the bridge. ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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"wish i never started this thread lol wow how wrong was i, dont think they will win the leauge tho
are you going to regret this post as much as the thread in 6 months time? lol"
i hope not lol... i would love to say we can win it this year but i just dont no ask me in jan lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"wish i never started this thread lol wow how wrong was i, dont think they will win the leauge tho
are you going to regret this post as much as the thread in 6 months time? lol
i hope not lol... i would love to say we can win it this year but i just dont no ask me in jan lol."
get Levandovski(sp) in january for a couple of quid and it might just be a good year |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'll give it to wenger he's made a great signing in ozil.
Signing of the season I'd say
nope.
any £60 million player is going to improve a team.
a great payer, so far, but arsenals best signing for me is getting Flamini back
glad i never jump on these manager out bandwagons lol"
I agree. He's been amazing!! Keep it up "Flattuso!!" ![](/icons/s/razz.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"wish i never started this thread lol wow how wrong was i, dont think they will win the leauge tho
are you going to regret this post as much as the thread in 6 months time? lol"
Not bumping this one today?
It looks like Chelsea have more in the bag than Arsenal but we shall see at the end of the season but that's one they won't be winning. ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Off to the Emirates this weekend so I (David) will see live as opposed to on telly for once. Anyone else gonna be there? "
I might see if I can re-morgage the house to get a ticket. ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Off to the Emirates this weekend so I (David) will see live as opposed to on telly for once. Anyone else gonna be there?
I might see if I can re-morgage the house to get a ticket. "
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately, it wasn't Chelsea's first team neither, - it shows the difference between the two squads though!"
thats the thing... I think it showed up that where arsenal probably have a squad of 15 that can compete with anyone... it not got the depth of 25 that chelsea has....
it did show up a few things....
1) can't afford giroud to get injured!
2) shows how much of an effect flamini not being there....
if we are still there or there abouts at christmas... he still has to go out and get a defender, another defensive midfield and a striker... |
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"It's only the League cup and it wasn't a full first team. We're playing Liverpool on the weekend, remember?!
Come on you Gunners!! "
you've had an easy run so far this season and now your tougher matches will start to test you.
Matter was a little excited post match forgetting the the city match was a Hart cock up and yours wasn't a full strength team either, although I do think the next few matches leading up to the new year will find you out and your lack of depth |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortunately, it wasn't Chelsea's first team neither, - it shows the difference between the two squads though!
thats the thing... I think it showed up that where arsenal probably have a squad of 15 that can compete with anyone... it not got the depth of 25 that chelsea has....
it did show up a few things....
1) can't afford giroud to get injured!
2) shows how much of an effect flamini not being there....
if we are still there or there abouts at christmas... he still has to go out and get a defender, another defensive midfield and a striker..."
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"It's only the League cup and it wasn't a full first team. We're playing Liverpool on the weekend, remember?!
Come on you Gunners!!
you've had an easy run so far this season and now your tougher matches will start to test you.
Matter was a little excited post match forgetting the the city match was a Hart cock up and yours wasn't a full strength team either, although I do think the next few matches leading up to the new year will find you out and your lack of depth"
Bull.
If there's a cup you want to be knocked out of early,its the league cup,especially if your squad lacks depth.
Wenger and arsenal have been through a lean time,and confidence wise one season won't fix that,but next season will.
for all you doubters,and false soothsayers,I'm bringing this post up at the end of next season,
hoping by then they've added a two finger emotion.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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bet this thread has been regretted over the last nine games!!! top of the league and looking good.. be interesting this weekend against the red shite.
In martinez we trust COYB |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately, it wasn't Chelsea's first team neither, - it shows the difference between the two squads though!
thats the thing... I think it showed up that where arsenal probably have a squad of 15 that can compete with anyone... it not got the depth of 25 that chelsea has....
it did show up a few things....
1) can't afford giroud to get injured!
2) shows how much of an effect flamini not being there....
if we are still there or there abouts at christmas... he still has to go out and get a defender, another defensive midfield and a striker..."
Errrrrrrrrrm but that was only a couple of things - when you actually said "a few things"
*..........awaits the next reason with genuine concern.........."Ö" |
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