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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Every time I hear stuff like that, i want to believe there's something in the water making people fucked up. I find it hard to believe anyone could be such a monster |
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and people dont want to bring back hanging...
ok lets encourage suicide for these people
why would any one want to keep them for years in a prison.. just give them some pills a rope a razor blade let them deal with themselves.
That is just an appaling thing to do !!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Those people aren't wired up the same as us. It's impossible to attach reason or sanity to their actions. "
They ought to imprison these people on an island like they once did with Australia, only this time fucking nuke it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"and people dont want to bring back hanging...
ok lets encourage suicide for these people
why would any one want to keep them for years in a prison.. just give them some pills a rope a razor blade let them deal with themselves.
That is just an appaling thing to do !! "
I agree.
As utterly appalling as this is, whatever the detail, one could argue that the sickness lies with the political leaders.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Those people aren't wired up the same as us. It's impossible to attach reason or sanity to their actions.
They ought to imprison these people on an island like they once did with Australia, only this time fucking nuke it"
Why nuke it? Just put a couple of dozen or so on at one time. With food for one. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Just read that a 23 yr woman and a 31 yr old man have appeared in colchester court charged with attempted rape on a 10 week old baby ....."
I shall reserve judgement until they are found guilty.
Fortunately we still run our legal system according to the presumption of innocence. |
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By *az1312Woman
over a year ago
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"Just read that a 23 yr woman and a 31 yr old man have appeared in colchester court charged with attempted rape on a 10 week old baby .....
I shall reserve judgement until they are found guilty.
Fortunately we still run our legal system according to the presumption of innocence. "
Sticking with you on this one.
Made the mistake of commenting on another post and got shot down.
Zip for now. |
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I shall reserve judgement until they are found guilty.
Fortunately we still run our legal system according to the presumption of innocence. "
Yep! I dread ever being wrongly accused of anything because its very clear that most people would just assume I had done it |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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I shall reserve judgement until they are found guilty.
Fortunately we still run our legal system according to the presumption of innocence.
Yep! I dread ever being wrongly accused of anything because its very clear that most people would just assume I had done it"
Remember the ritual abuse stories a while back? Parents had children removed. It was all discredited later as they were innocent. Tore families apart. Those parents were treated like paedophiles before it even got to court.
Nothing like a lynch mob. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The police wont usually charge someone without quite a bit of evidence behind the for fear of being taken to book.
That said if this is anywhere near true these and other's like them should be taken out of the gene pool altogether castrate him and sterilise her so as no innocent child can be near these lowlifes ever again.
There are guidlines in place for sentences in all cases which dont seem to be upheld because they have been good in jail while there.
The sentence should be the sentence and nothing else 5,10,20 years should be exactly that and if needs be build more jails as they are already overcrowded, Or even better lets have an offshore penal colony where once you are sent there you stay ther til time is served completely, pandering to family and friends so they are located near their home town /where they committed the offences is laughable and a smack in the mouth of normal hard working law abiding people |
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I shall reserve judgement until they are found guilty.
Fortunately we still run our legal system according to the presumption of innocence.
Yep! I dread ever being wrongly accused of anything because its very clear that most people would just assume I had done it
Remember the ritual abuse stories a while back? Parents had children removed. It was all discredited later as they were innocent. Tore families apart. Those parents were treated like paedophiles before it even got to court.
Nothing like a lynch mob. "
Yes sadly I do I also remember the paediatrician whose house was attacked because someone got their words mixed up. The crime itself is heinous lets not pin it on anyone until its been proved it was them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I shall reserve judgement until they are found guilty.
Fortunately we still run our legal system according to the presumption of innocence.
Yep! I dread ever being wrongly accused of anything because its very clear that most people would just assume I had done it
Remember the ritual abuse stories a while back? Parents had children removed. It was all discredited later as they were innocent. Tore families apart. Those parents were treated like paedophiles before it even got to court.
Nothing like a lynch mob. "
Don't tell me, the "social services" people got bonuses and promoted.
I know of one who left a Council under a severe cloud, paid off even, and got a top job elsewhere. Some few years later an all-party parliamentary committee reported that his latest organisation was "Not fit for purpose". Not that it ever was mind.
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By (user no longer on site)
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What adds to the sadness is that there are thousands of decent people desperate for one reason or another, to adopt children and give them a good and loving upbringing.
Ridiculous hurdles put in their way doesn't help.
Well, we havent managed to place any babies this year, but all our polices are neatly typed up and filed correctly. Alongside our racial/sexual/age/whatever profiling.
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"and people dont want to bring back hanging...
ok lets encourage suicide for these people
why would any one want to keep them for years in a prison.. just give them some pills a rope a razor blade let them deal with themselves.
That is just an appaling thing to do !!
I agree.
As utterly appalling as this is, whatever the detail, one could argue that the sickness lies with the political leaders.
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What??? How is this anything to do with the coalition government? Do you think the sick fucks capable of committing such atrocious acts haven't been around since the dawn of humanity? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is another discussion that seems to polarise the site.
On one side we have: castration is too good for them and I'd hang em etc
On the other side we have: let's wait and see if they're guilty and the punish them accordingly based on the rule of law
Neither side changes its views and everyone gets quite irate.
I'd echo the comments made earlier
1) no one is actually guilty yet
2) people who comit crimes such as these often have huge psychiatric issues and they'll probably end up at a special hospital |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wish that I hadn't opened this thread "
I read this article this morning , ...I kinda knew what was in this thread by its title ...deeply distressing to US !, what kind of start to life is that ?... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is another discussion that seems to polarise the site.
On one side we have: castration is too good for them and I'd hang em etc
On the other side we have: let's wait and see if they're guilty and the punish them accordingly based on the rule of law
Neither side changes its views and everyone gets quite irate.
I'd echo the comments made earlier
1) no one is actually guilty yet
2) people who comit crimes such as these often have huge psychiatric issues and they'll probably end up at a special hospital "
Having worked in this area I disagree totally. These people don't commit these offences because they are mentally ill, and they will go to prison, not a hospital.
These men (its usually men) are manipulative individuals who usually plan and groom the victims for long periods of time. If the offences were committed due to poor mental health then these crimes wouldn't be done in secret with victims threatened into not telling, but in the open as 'they were ill' and knew no better.
Obviously this case is different as it was a baby, so therefore no grooming required.
I'm not saying that some of these men don't have mental health problems like any other sector of the community...but it's not the reason they target and abuse children!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is another discussion that seems to polarise the site.
On one side we have: castration is too good for them and I'd hang em etc
On the other side we have: let's wait and see if they're guilty and the punish them accordingly based on the rule of law
Neither side changes its views and everyone gets quite irate.
I'd echo the comments made earlier
1) no one is actually guilty yet
2) people who comit crimes such as these often have huge psychiatric issues and they'll probably end up at a special hospital
Having worked in this area I disagree totally. These people don't commit these offences because they are mentally ill, and they will go to prison, not a hospital.
These men (its usually men) are manipulative individuals who usually plan and groom the victims for long periods of time. If the offences were committed due to poor mental health then these crimes wouldn't be done in secret with victims threatened into not telling, but in the open as 'they were ill' and knew no better.
Obviously this case is different as it was a baby, so therefore no grooming required.
I'm not saying that some of these men don't have mental health problems like any other sector of the community...but it's not the reason they target and abuse children!!"
I too work in fhe field and I agree that those who groom aren't what would be deemed mentally ill but clearly have mental issues. In this type of case though, given what we know, I suspect that there are clear differences.
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