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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? " because the baby needed feeding? | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding?" Surely it would have been more hygienic and more sensible to take herself off to the changing room? I'd like to bet if the leisure centre hasn't got any facilities available she would have kicked off about it If facilities are there .. Use them | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding? Surely it would have been more hygienic and more sensible to take herself off to the changing room? I'd like to bet if the leisure centre hasn't got any facilities available she would have kicked off about it If facilities are there .. Use them " There weren't designated breast feeding facilities She was told to go to the changing rooms or toilet, I don't think it's unhygienic personally. The changing rooms that are always slippery and wet are probably worse and I don't agree with anyone being told to feed their child in the toilet. | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? " Was she actually IN the pool? | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? Was she actually IN the pool? " Yes | |||
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"there are signs saying no food or drinks in the pool, so why should she be any different. im sure they do it just for the attention half the time. who wants breast milk or babys sick in the pool." A baby can get sick at any time not just when or after its being fed. | |||
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"I thought u would arrange a swimming session around your babies needs, just lazy and inconsiderate," | |||
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"I thought u would arrange a swimming session around your babies needs, just lazy and inconsiderate," Not all children (especially ones only a few months old and breast fed) are in a rigid feeding schedule. | |||
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"According to the news the staff told her she was being indecent and unhygienic and likened what she was doing to a swimmer pissing in the pool. " Wow. She wouldn't want to dare say that to me. If it was me I would call up la leche league & had a nurse in there. Just baffles me why ppl can't feed their babies naturally in public w/o a fuss? Mrs. | |||
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"I hope she was at the shallow end! " It says she was waist deep in the water in the corner of the toddlers pool | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? Was she actually IN the pool? Yes" I'm no expert as I don't have children but surely the chlorine in the pool and on mum's skin can't be good for the baby? I'm not against feeding babies in public but I think it should be done discretely and I wouldn't have thought being IN the pool was ideal - for anyone. | |||
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"'People might get ill from pool water if the water is contaminated by germs. The most common pool germs include bacteria (Giardia, E. coli, Legionella and Shigella), viruses (enteroviruses) and parasites (Cryptosporidium). Chemicals are used to treat and control germ levels in pools so the germs don’t make you sick. But sometimes, particularly if the pool is very busy or poorly treated, the chemicals can’t act quickly enough and the germs can multiply. Bacteria and viruses in pool water can cause illnesses including ear infections, eye infections and throat and chest infections, as well as gastroenteritis or diarrhoea (runny poo). The virus that causes hepatitis A can also be in pool water. Very rarely, the amoebae that cause amoebic meningitis might be in warm and hot water pools (where they thrive).' This is copied from another website regarding parenting and pool hygiene. So it was unhygienic to feed her 4 month old baby in a pool." Surely then you shouldn't take a baby into a pool at all if they are that bad? | |||
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"'People might get ill from pool water if the water is contaminated by germs. The most common pool germs include bacteria (Giardia, E. coli, Legionella and Shigella), viruses (enteroviruses) and parasites (Cryptosporidium). Chemicals are used to treat and control germ levels in pools so the germs don’t make you sick. But sometimes, particularly if the pool is very busy or poorly treated, the chemicals can’t act quickly enough and the germs can multiply. Bacteria and viruses in pool water can cause illnesses including ear infections, eye infections and throat and chest infections, as well as gastroenteritis or diarrhoea (runny poo). The virus that causes hepatitis A can also be in pool water. Very rarely, the amoebae that cause amoebic meningitis might be in warm and hot water pools (where they thrive).' This is copied from another website regarding parenting and pool hygiene. So it was unhygienic to feed her 4 month old baby in a pool." Interesting reading! I do think that ultimately it's up to the mother (and is her right) to weigh up the risks herself and act accordingly. My big bugbear regarding public hygiene is people spitting in the street, ugh! | |||
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"She pulled her costume down and breastfed her child in the childrens pool. All I will say is, couldn't she have got out and used the child facilites instead." I agree with this. Also, although a baby can be sick at any time (as has already been pointed out) it's more likely to regurgitate milk (known as possetting I believe)directly after a feed. I for one wouldn't like the idea of a baby vomiting milk into the same water my own kids were swimming in. | |||
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"She could have asked if she could have used the first aid room. There is bound to be one of those." There are mother and baby changing rooms in most swimming baths , the one I know of also has a feeding room and a communial baby changing room. | |||
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"I would have got right up close and got a good look In a public place, that's my right!" ooops and baby has vomitted right over your face! | |||
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"I would have got right up close and got a good look In a public place, that's my right! ooops and baby has vomitted right over your face!" Ok,maybe not that close! How far can a baby yak? | |||
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"I would have got right up close and got a good look In a public place, that's my right! ooops and baby has vomitted right over your face! Ok,maybe not that close! How far can a baby yak?" haha some do this thing called projectile vomitting.......id stand at least the other side of the room and still prepare to dodge | |||
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"I thought u would arrange a swimming session around your babies needs, just lazy and inconsiderate, Not all children (especially ones only a few months old and breast fed) are in a rigid feeding schedule. " Agree with this I breast feed my twins n I was pretty much constantly on tap (granted I never did it in a swimming pool) i always ensured to do it discretely in public usually with a muslin sheet covering my breast n baby but at the same time not all places cater for it and even doing it discretely in public you can get judged quite harshly for it but if my child wanted feeding I fed them simple | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding? Surely it would have been more hygienic and more sensible to take herself off to the changing room? I'd like to bet if the leisure centre hasn't got any facilities available she would have kicked off about it If facilities are there .. Use them There weren't designated breast feeding facilities She was told to go to the changing rooms or toilet, I don't think it's unhygienic personally. The changing rooms that are always slippery and wet are probably worse and I don't agree with anyone being told to feed their child in the toilet. " Plus it's not necessarily a 5 minute job and if she is there with other children, surely feeding her baby and knowing her other kids are safe is better than vanishing and leaving them alone | |||
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"Saying that didn't she get awarded 18.5k? For that id have gone back the next day and fed from the other side " Thats shocking,what a waste of money,I don't see how she deserved that | |||
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"Saying that didn't she get awarded 18.5k? For that id have gone back the next day and fed from the other side Thats shocking,what a waste of money,I don't see how she deserved that " They will all be doing it now. | |||
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"I don't see a problem with breast feeding in public. Breasts as lovely as they are for other things are primarily for feeding babies. On a bus in churches, supermarkets, restaraunts in the park public places outdoors indoors are all fine descreetly or not so discreetly is up to the mother on how comfortable she is with random perves watching her or idiots like me wondering what's going on then realising at the last minute as the mother looks up and sees me :S . But in the toddler pool ...ok they are lovely and warm and I'm sure it's comfortable to relax and feed but what about the possibilities of the baby being sick after feeding that's my main concern other than that I don't see a problem." Where ages comfortable? I think yeah in this day and age it should be ok but, I have spent many an hour toddler groups I got hardened to talking to a woman pulling out her tit and feeding her nipper, but because I knew the person, or it was in the environment that's suits, its not that men perv far far from it o have never got off on watching a woman feed a child, but it has to be discrete in an overly public place, it can make men feel uncomfortable - that's my main point if you're looking round and don't even realise for a second or two what they are doing like in a dream world and then suddenly click on it makes you feel like your a pervert!! And who saw and thought ypu were staring? Discreetly at all times, or a big sign saying I'm breast feeding would work, | |||
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"Saying that didn't she get awarded 18.5k? For that id have gone back the next day and fed from the other side " That would be a very quick award as it says it only happened last Sunday | |||
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" Plus it's not necessarily a 5 minute job and if she is there with other children, surely feeding her baby and knowing her other kids are safe is better than vanishing and leaving them alone" She was there with her husband and another child. I am guessing the other child could have been looked after by the dad | |||
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"Depends why she was doing it there, if it was because she had to then what is the issue, if it was just to make a point then I am less sympathetic. ?" I think that sums it up, sometimes I think som of these women are out to just make a point of I want to do it here so I will. I am all for having the right to breast feed your child in a public place if they need feeding, but surely some places are impractical, like this one. | |||
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"Cant see the problem myself, boobs are for feeding, i never understand why people get so hung up on brest feeding, page 3 is fine but lets all get offended by a woman doing what nature intended " I wonder what it is that people ae taking offence at - that she had her breasts out or that she was feeding her child in the pool? Neither are offensive. | |||
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"Depends why she was doing it there, if it was because she had to then what is the issue, if it was just to make a point then I am less sympathetic. ? I think that sums it up, sometimes I think som of these women are out to just make a point of I want to do it here so I will. I am all for having the right to breast feed your child in a public place if they need feeding, but surely some places are impractical, like this one." It also strikes me that actually in a pool is potentially not good for the baby, less hygenic perhaps, tho I am just postulating this, no expert. | |||
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"wouldnt you be better off sitting down feeding the baby .. supposing you dropped it " People generally do not drop babies tho,and they are held while standing, walking etc all the time | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? " Why the need? I'm sure the baby would understand if it was asked to stop screaming until mummy can find a suitable place without being harassed. It's stressful enough. I've seen women breastfeed from cafes to park benches,who cares? They can't stay at home all day every day. | |||
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"How about if her other children were in the pool, I guess you'd be the first to condemn her if she'd gone elsewhere to feed her baby and something had happened to another child. The year is 2013 and a woman should be able to feed her child wherever and whenever she wants. Would you have said the same if she had stuck a plastic bottle in the baby's mouth? (Him) " All my kids had 14months on the breast as breast is best. I think as long as you are being discreet there is nowhere that a baby should not feed everybody thinks bottles are ok but not mother nature | |||
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"Why so many snipes against this woman ... why on earth should she scuttle away like shes doing something shameful for god's sake grow up... " | |||
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"Its one of the.most natural acts in human beings and animals.....feeding a baby from a mothers body? What is it that people protest about it? Is it the fact you see a breast in public ...ooh the shock .....skin and fat and breast tissue. .....just as the men who are topless in the pool have except women's are (usually) bigger. Do you see it as sexual. ...if so you are the one that has issues. Why should women have to hide our bodies....why do you believe that womens bodies are offensive? Are people that repressed and screwed up that the most basic acts of human nature and the female sex in particular once again is subjected to attack.....perhaps we should all wear sacks and prostate ourselves for being born into the female form and daring to feed our children. ....would it have been ok if she fed the.baby a big mac instead." Well said | |||
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"Its one of the.most natural acts in human beings and animals.....feeding a baby from a mothers body? What is it that people protest about it? Is it the fact you see a breast in public ...ooh the shock .....skin and fat and breast tissue. .....just as the men who are topless in the pool have except women's are (usually) bigger. Do you see it as sexual. ...if so you are the one that has issues. Why should women have to hide our bodies....why do you believe that womens bodies are offensive? Are people that repressed and screwed up that the most basic acts of human nature and the female sex in particular once again is subjected to attack.....perhaps we should all wear sacks and prostate ourselves for being born into the female form and daring to feed our children. ....would it have been ok if she fed the.baby a big mac instead. Well said " Your missing the point It's nowt to do with the fact about whether its breast milk or chips and gravy she was feeding it The point is there are places available for her to feed her baby She chose to do it in the swimming pool If there had been no other places available fair enough but there was | |||
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"Its one of the.most natural acts in human beings and animals.....feeding a baby from a mothers body? What is it that people protest about it? Is it the fact you see a breast in public ...ooh the shock .....skin and fat and breast tissue. .....just as the men who are topless in the pool have except women's are (usually) bigger. Do you see it as sexual. ...if so you are the one that has issues. Why should women have to hide our bodies....why do you believe that womens bodies are offensive? Are people that repressed and screwed up that the most basic acts of human nature and the female sex in particular once again is subjected to attack.....perhaps we should all wear sacks and prostate ourselves for being born into the female form and daring to feed our children. ....would it have been ok if she fed the.baby a big mac instead. Well said Your missing the point It's nowt to do with the fact about whether its breast milk or chips and gravy she was feeding it The point is there are places available for her to feed her baby She chose to do it in the swimming pool If there had been no other places available fair enough but there was " Why not baby needs feeding feed it no worries were you are should not have to go in a room or corner or other area ??? | |||
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"Its one of the.most natural acts in human beings and animals.....feeding a baby from a mothers body? What is it that people protest about it? Is it the fact you see a breast in public ...ooh the shock .....skin and fat and breast tissue. .....just as the men who are topless in the pool have except women's are (usually) bigger. Do you see it as sexual. ...if so you are the one that has issues. Why should women have to hide our bodies....why do you believe that womens bodies are offensive? Are people that repressed and screwed up that the most basic acts of human nature and the female sex in particular once again is subjected to attack.....perhaps we should all wear sacks and prostate ourselves for being born into the female form and daring to feed our children. ....would it have been ok if she fed the.baby a big mac instead." Er, yes if she had done it in the pool quite frankly. None of my comments have benn aimed at the shock of a woman breatfeeding or sexualising it, quite the reverse if you look at one of them, more the appropriateness of actually in the pool, tho as i stated, i am just postulating, had i been there it would not have bothered me one bit tbh | |||
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"Its one of the.most natural acts in human beings and animals.....feeding a baby from a mothers body? What is it that people protest about it? Is it the fact you see a breast in public ...ooh the shock .....skin and fat and breast tissue. .....just as the men who are topless in the pool have except women's are (usually) bigger. Do you see it as sexual. ...if so you are the one that has issues. Why should women have to hide our bodies....why do you believe that womens bodies are offensive? Are people that repressed and screwed up that the most basic acts of human nature and the female sex in particular once again is subjected to attack.....perhaps we should all wear sacks and prostate ourselves for being born into the female form and daring to feed our children. ....would it have been ok if she fed the.baby a big mac instead. Well said Your missing the point It's nowt to do with the fact about whether its breast milk or chips and gravy she was feeding it The point is there are places available for her to feed her baby She chose to do it in the swimming pool If there had been no other places available fair enough but there was " Why do you believe the swimming pool was unsuitable? | |||
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"Your missing the point It's nowt to do with the fact about whether its breast milk or chips and gravy she was feeding it The point is there are places available for her to feed her baby She chose to do it in the swimming pool If there had been no other places available fair enough but there was " But why is it a problem for you that she chose not to? | |||
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"I don't understand the hygiene question - how would it be any different to a baby swimming in the pool?" I don't know about the hygiene thing, but why would a baby want to eat their dinner in a swimming pool? | |||
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"I don't understand the hygiene question - how would it be any different to a baby swimming in the pool? I don't know about the hygiene thing, but why would a baby want to eat their dinner in a swimming pool?" My experience of them is they're none too fussy about where or when they eat other than they get it when they demand it. But just to check, the next time I meet one I'll ask them. | |||
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"I don't understand the hygiene question - how would it be any different to a baby swimming in the pool? I don't know about the hygiene thing, but why would a baby want to eat their dinner in a swimming pool?" I've enjoyed many a cocktail and beer in a pool | |||
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"You would think people had said "string up any breastfeeding woman" the way these posts are going. I think it is more about WHERE it was rather than the breastfeeding itself...but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a good debate. " Is it though...do you think that if the mum hadfed her child a biscuit or bit of food in the pool then the story would be featured in the media? | |||
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"You would think people had said "string up any breastfeeding woman" the way these posts are going. I think it is more about WHERE it was rather than the breastfeeding itself...but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a good debate. Is it though...do you think that if the mum hadfed her child a biscuit or bit of food in the pool then the story would be featured in the media?" I doubt it, as most people will realise that feeding in a swimming pool is a bit silly...your biscuit would get soggy | |||
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"I don't think it's about where it was at all - I think that, along with the 'hygiene concerns' etc. etc. are just sidestepping the issue that culturally we can't handle women popping their breasts out in public." I think you are right , there are people about who don't like to see breast feeding women....but surely there are more practical places to feed your baby? I would never have dreamt of feeding mine in a pool, wether bottle or breast. | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding? Surely it would have been more hygienic and more sensible to take herself off to the changing room? I'd like to bet if the leisure centre hasn't got any facilities available she would have kicked off about it If facilities are there .. Use them There weren't designated breast feeding facilities She was told to go to the changing rooms or toilet, I don't think it's unhygienic personally. The changing rooms that are always slippery and wet are probably worse and I don't agree with anyone being told to feed their child in the toilet. Plus it's not necessarily a 5 minute job and if she is there with other children, surely feeding her baby and knowing her other kids are safe is better than vanishing and leaving them alone" Is there not a rule about how many children with one adult in a pool? Also at 4 months the baby shouldn't be in the pool for long.. She could of easily done the swim inbetween feeds.. I can't see any reason she couldn't of sat in a changing cubical | |||
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"I don't think it's about where it was at all - I think that, along with the 'hygiene concerns' etc. etc. are just sidestepping the issue that culturally we can't handle women popping their breasts out in public. I think you are right , there are people about who don't like to see breast feeding women....but surely there are more practical places to feed your baby? I would never have dreamt of feeding mine in a pool, wether bottle or breast." Me neither - except perhaps in a very exclusive pool in a very hot country while juggling a G&T in the other hand (only the one though to help the baby nod off). | |||
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"The "its natural" is not an argument to defend it. " Actually it is. It doesn't appear to have been an issue for her - you can deal with your own issue. The milk in the pool argument is weak - you can be pretty sure there's far worse in it. | |||
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"My health visitors advised me not to take my baby swimming for at least an hour after feeding as it can cause gut problems.......so surely for just that reason a swimming pool is not a good place to feed?!?!?" | |||
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"Why so many snipes against this woman ... why on earth should she scuttle away like shes doing something shameful for god's sake grow up... " ) | |||
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"How about if her other children were in the pool, I guess you'd be the first to condemn her if she'd gone elsewhere to feed her baby and something had happened to another child. The year is 2013 and a woman should be able to feed her child wherever and whenever she wants. Would you have said the same if she had stuck a plastic bottle in the baby's mouth? (Him) " From what I read she was standing in the pool feeding him: why? I'd have been worried I'd drop him. She could have got out the water and feed her child: time and place. | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding? Surely it would have been more hygienic and more sensible to take herself off to the changing room? I'd like to bet if the leisure centre hasn't got any facilities available she would have kicked off about it If facilities are there .. Use them There weren't designated breast feeding facilities She was told to go to the changing rooms or toilet, I don't think it's unhygienic personally. The changing rooms that are always slippery and wet are probably worse and I don't agree with anyone being told to feed their child in the toilet. " ...but standing waist deep in water is safer?!! | |||
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"In the swimming pool is silliness, she wanted to cause waves!!' Before you anything, I've breastfed three children and god knows how many adults , so I'm no prude!!" My point too: and yes, I breast fed my three also. | |||
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"Depends why she was doing it there, if it was because she had to then what is the issue, if it was just to make a point then I am less sympathetic. ? I think that sums it up, sometimes I think som of these women are out to just make a point of I want to do it here so I will. I am all for having the right to breast feed your child in a public place if they need feeding, but surely some places are impractical, like this one." | |||
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"wouldnt you be better off sitting down feeding the baby .. supposing you dropped it " That was my initial thought. | |||
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"The "its natural" is not an argument to defend it. Actually it is. It doesn't appear to have been an issue for her - you can deal with your own issue. The milk in the pool argument is weak - you can be pretty sure there's far worse in it." You didn't quote the next part which said having a poo is natural but you wouldn't do that in the pool.. Or what about having sex that's natural, should we do that whereever if the urge gets us? How about any older kids.. Maybe they get hungry.. Should she get out a sandwich and feed them in the pool too? | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding?" It's the most natural thing and women should be proud to feed their babies, and do it whereever the hell they want.....if I had got asked to move, id have flipped my lid | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding? It's the most natural thing and women should be proud to feed their babies, and do it whereever the hell they want.....if I had got asked to move, id have flipped my lid" Did you read any other replies? Shitting is natural too.. Should we do that in the pool? Should anyone just get out food and eat while in the pool? She could of used the changing rooms? No baby should be in a pool for long anyway | |||
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"On the north west news A big row breaking out about a woman who was asked to stop breastfeeding in a local swimming pool in Manchester What's the argument ? For me it's a no brainer ... There's hundreds of places the lady could have chosen to do this Why the need to do it in a swimming pool ? because the baby needed feeding? It's the most natural thing and women should be proud to feed their babies, and do it whereever the hell they want.....if I had got asked to move, id have flipped my lid" Clearly missing the point.! no ones saying there is anything wrong with breastfeeding.!!! | |||
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"This swimming pool... It has cubicles? Maybe even a baby changing/feeding room? Was she actually IN the pool feeding? If so, what possessed her to go swimming when she would have been fully aware of when the babies next feed was due REALLY my ex breast fed 3 and we never knew when the next feed was but they sure let you know not bottles!!!!!! " | |||
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"This swimming pool... It has cubicles? Maybe even a baby changing/feeding room? Was she actually IN the pool feeding? If so, what possessed her to go swimming when she would have been fully aware of when the babies next feed was due maybe she didn't know when the babies next feed was due? When I breast feed I was told that unlike bottle feeding where you have a routine, when you breastfeed you feed on demand. if that baby wants it, you give it, especially at four months old " | |||
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"I would have got right up close and got a good look In a public place, that's my right!" No it's not | |||
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"The next news story will be a woman breastfeeding while driving. Because it's ok to feed a baby anywhere, any time, any place. As long as the baby is hungry. " | |||
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"You would think people had said "string up any breastfeeding woman" the way these posts are going. I think it is more about WHERE it was rather than the breastfeeding itself...but don't let a little thing like that get in the way of a good debate. " Well said !!! It seems like a lot of threads go this way ! | |||
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"How about if her other children were in the pool, I guess you'd be the first to condemn her if she'd gone elsewhere to feed her baby and something had happened to another child. The year is 2013 and a woman should be able to feed her child wherever and whenever she wants. Would you have said the same if she had stuck a plastic bottle in the baby's mouth? (Him) " Here here ;it scares me in this day and age people's attitude to breast feeding. Newsflash people its what breast were made for. I was once asked in macdonalds to feed my child in the toilet so other customers couldn't see! I had a blanket over my little one so no one could see a thing. I told them very politely that they would have to forcibly remove me as I was still eating and that expecting my child to feed in the toilet was unacceptable. Would they eat their big Mac in there? | |||
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"The next news story will be a woman breastfeeding while driving. Because it's ok to feed a baby anywhere, any time, any place. As long as the baby is hungry. " Just because your baby is hungry doesn'tmean you have to feed it the second it cries. You can remove yourself from a situation and feed it discretely (still um publicif you wish) | |||
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"This swimming pool... It has cubicles? Maybe even a baby changing/feeding room? Was she actually IN the pool feeding? If so, what possessed her to go swimming when she would have been fully aware of when the babies next feed was due maybe she didn't know when the babies next feed was due? When I breast feed I was told that unlike bottle feeding where you have a routine, when you breastfeed you feed on demand. if that baby wants it, you give it, especially at four months old " What a crock of sh1t .. Your telling me that when a baby is hungry you instantly have to get the tit out ? I'm sure the baby could wait a few minutes for mummy to get out of the pool , sit somewhere quiet and comfortable and feed it For me this just stinks of laziness and a case of someone wanting to cause a stir about their "rights" The minute they take away baby changing facilities from places is the minute these people kick up a fuss Its ridiculous ! | |||
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"Another one missing the point " Not missing the point merely sharing mine because that's what forums are for! | |||
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"Another one missing the point Not missing the point merely sharing mine because that's what forums are for! " An invalid one.this was a swimming pool hey.! I agree your story is pathetic | |||
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"Another one missing the point Not missing the point merely sharing mine because that's what forums are for! An invalid one.this was a swimming pool hey.! I agree your story is pathetic" Nice | |||
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"Another one missing the point Not missing the point merely sharing mine because that's what forums are for! An invalid one.this was a swimming pool hey.! I agree your story is pathetic" Totally not needed!! Managed to get this long without personal insults. | |||
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"Ment the management at mc donalds tbf" Not the way it read tbf | |||
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"Insults.?" Yes in saying that my point was invalid and my story was pathetic some peoe could deem that as insulting.. Did you not get that from your post? | |||
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"Ment the management at mc donalds tbf Not the way it read tbf" | |||
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"Ment the management at mc donalds tbf Not the way it read tbf" Then im sorry YOU miss read it.? Wasnt atually quoted for or at you hey TBF | |||
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"This swimming pool... It has cubicles? Maybe even a baby changing/feeding room? Was she actually IN the pool feeding? If so, what possessed her to go swimming when she would have been fully aware of when the babies next feed was due maybe she didn't know when the babies next feed was due? When I breast feed I was told that unlike bottle feeding where you have a routine, when you breastfeed you feed on demand. if that baby wants it, you give it, especially at four months old What a crock of sh1t .. Your telling me that when a baby is hungry you instantly have to get the tit out ? I'm sure the baby could wait a few minutes for mummy to get out of the pool , sit somewhere quiet and comfortable and feed it For me this just stinks of laziness and a case of someone wanting to cause a stir about their "rights" The minute they take away baby changing facilities from places is the minute these people kick up a fuss Its ridiculous ! " A baby can wait a few minutes to be fed. You can tell when they are getting hungry and move somewhere suitable/ comfortable. The woman in the story would not have been able to look after her other kids while she was feeding the baby. If her other kids got into difficulty would she have chucked the baby on the side so she could help the other child?! Many reasons why I think feeding in a swimming pool is wrong. Most other places are fine and can be done discreetly- and safely. | |||
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"Ment the management at mc donalds tbf Not the way it read tbf Then im sorry YOU miss read it.? Wasnt atually quoted for or at you hey TBF" Didn't say you were or that I was offended. O just thought the comment without the follow up explanation was making personal insults to someone on the thread which isn't needed nice or tolerated TBF | |||
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"Another one missing the point " I know...sigh... | |||
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"The next news story will be a woman breastfeeding while driving. Because it's ok to feed a baby anywhere, any time, any place. As long as the baby is hungry. Just because your baby is hungry doesn'tmean you have to feed it the second it cries. You can remove yourself from a situation and feed it discretely (still um publicif you wish)" Absolutely! I breast fed all my children but had no intention of making a rod for my own back by feeding them the second they went "mwhaaaaa..." | |||
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"This swimming pool... It has cubicles? Maybe even a baby changing/feeding room? Was she actually IN the pool feeding? If so, what possessed her to go swimming when she would have been fully aware of when the babies next feed was due maybe she didn't know when the babies next feed was due? When I breast feed I was told that unlike bottle feeding where you have a routine, when you breastfeed you feed on demand. if that baby wants it, you give it, especially at four months old What a crock of sh1t .. Your telling me that when a baby is hungry you instantly have to get the tit out ? I'm sure the baby could wait a few minutes for mummy to get out of the pool , sit somewhere quiet and comfortable and feed it For me this just stinks of laziness and a case of someone wanting to cause a stir about their "rights" The minute they take away baby changing facilities from places is the minute these people kick up a fuss Its ridiculous ! A baby can wait a few minutes to be fed. You can tell when they are getting hungry and move somewhere suitable/ comfortable. The woman in the story would not have been able to look after her other kids while she was feeding the baby. If her other kids got into difficulty would she have chucked the baby on the side so she could help the other child?! Many reasons why I think feeding in a swimming pool is wrong. Most other places are fine and can be done discreetly- and safely. " She was at the pool with her husband! | |||
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"I would not want my child seeing a grown women's tit there's a time and a place and a kids pool is not the place." | |||
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"Sit at the side. Towel over shoulder to hide the Breast. Job done. No fuss. No need to burn bra's. " You are right that should be fine! My point earlier was that even when you do this and be very discreet you are sometimes still asked to stop. I would not want anyone in public seeing my boobs out. | |||
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"I would not want my child seeing a grown women's tit there's a time and a place and a kids pool is not the place." That's the kind of attitude which breeds a market for lad's mags. | |||
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"I still can't see how people are trying to justify this and are missing the point. Agreed women should be able to breast feed in public when their child needs a feed, which I have zero issues with as it is natural. However his is over ruled by anywhere that has rules in place that you must follow, thus you should plan accordingly. In this case pool rules are no eating or drinking in the pool. The rule has been broken so I don't see what the issue is with the woman being asked to stop? To me this does scream a case of someone getting on their high horse and wanting to simply make a scene etc. It does appear that common sense is being bread out of the human race these days " Human rights gone mad | |||
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"I still can't see how people are trying to justify this and are missing the point. Agreed women should be able to breast feed in public when their child needs a feed, which I have zero issues with as it is natural. However his is over ruled by anywhere that has rules in place that you must follow, thus you should plan accordingly. In this case pool rules are no eating or drinking in the pool. The rule has been broken so I don't see what the issue is with the woman being asked to stop? To me this does scream a case of someone getting on their high horse and wanting to simply make a scene etc. It does appear that common sense is being bread out of the human race these days " Couldn't agree more! | |||
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".......... In this case pool rules are no eating or drinking in the pool. The rule has been broken so I don't see what the issue is with the woman being asked to stop? ............. " I suspect there's a rule about no pooing in the pool but how you stop a 6 month from doing that I dunno - even in a nappy. | |||
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"I still can't see how people are trying to justify this and are missing the point. Agreed women should be able to breast feed in public when their child needs a feed, which I have zero issues with as it is natural. However his is over ruled by anywhere that has rules in place that you must follow, thus you should plan accordingly. In this case pool rules are no eating or drinking in the pool. The rule has been broken so I don't see what the issue is with the woman being asked to stop? To me this does scream a case of someone getting on their high horse and wanting to simply make a scene etc. It does appear that common sense is being bread out of the human race these days " Spot on. I'm guessing she was probably an 'Earth Mother' type that rams her udders down peoples throats at any moment just because she can! She could have taken the kid out of the pool quite eeasily and fed it by the side of the pool and no one would have cared. It's very unhygienic as anyone that's had children knows babies quite often bring milk straight back up and that milk will potentially go in the pool. If she was standing in pool feeding baby from a jar would people be happy about that? How about if I stand in pool drinking a coffee?????? | |||
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".......... In this case pool rules are no eating or drinking in the pool. The rule has been broken so I don't see what the issue is with the woman being asked to stop? ............. I suspect there's a rule about no pooing in the pool but how you stop a 6 month from doing that I dunno - even in a nappy." You can't. We all know this and accept 'accidents' like this will happen. That is why they pools have the types of cleaning systems and chemicals in them that they do. I am however entirely sure that the parent of said child being breast fed was able to understand that no eating and no drinking in the pool means just that! It isn't the child at fault here so your point is really rather pointless... | |||
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"This swimming pool... It has cubicles? Maybe even a baby changing/feeding room? Was she actually IN the pool feeding? If so, what possessed her to go swimming when she would have been fully aware of when the babies next feed was due maybe she didn't know when the babies next feed was due? When I breast feed I was told that unlike bottle feeding where you have a routine, when you breastfeed you feed on demand. if that baby wants it, you give it, especially at four months old What a crock of sh1t .. Your telling me that when a baby is hungry you instantly have to get the tit out ? I'm sure the baby could wait a few minutes for mummy to get out of the pool , sit somewhere quiet and comfortable and feed it For me this just stinks of laziness and a case of someone wanting to cause a stir about their "rights" The minute they take away baby changing facilities from places is the minute these people kick up a fuss Its ridiculous ! " oh I'm definitely not saying she should have fed in the pool, she should have at least moved to the seats by the pool. I'm just saying breast fed babies feed on demand not on a routine, so maybe she didn't know the baby was due a feed. I agree with unhygenic and impractical in the pool | |||
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"I'm personally disgusted but not shocked that she was asked to stop. In a previous place of work we had very strict pro breastfeeding policies. This meant that if someone was uncomfortable with seeing a mother feed her child, the complainant was asked to move on. Very progressive thinking in my view! I have no issue with the mother here, she was in a corner of the toddler pool for heavens sake! I'm aware this is a contentious issue, I'm not looking for an argument at all, but my two pence worth is that I am genuinely astounded when people take such a massive issue with something as natural as a mother feeding her child, and yet accept drinking another mammals milk as entirely normal! " I breastfed both my babies and always tried to be discrete about it to avoid others embarrassment rather than my own. But I've fed my kids in random places like pools, shopping queues, park benches, buses and trains.. If your child is hungry then feed it.. Breastfed babies feed on demand not like bottle fed babies who can be more routinely fed due to formulas being filling. Its a shame bottle fed is now seen as the normal way to feed a baby when in fact its not. | |||
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"The "its natural" is not an argument to defend it. Actually it is. It doesn't appear to have been an issue for her - you can deal with your own issue. The milk in the pool argument is weak - you can be pretty sure there's far worse in it. You didn't quote the next part which said having a poo is natural but you wouldn't do that in the pool.. Or what about having sex that's natural, should we do that whereever if the urge gets us? How about any older kids.. Maybe they get hungry.. Should she get out a sandwich and feed them in the pool too?" I ignored it because it was pathetic. Poo and milk are comparable? How? As for the other arguments - hygiene is no more relevant than the general hygiene of a baby being in the pool when water would enter its mouth anyway. The 'dropping the baby' concern is laughable. If you're going to drop a baby anywhere seems water is a safe bet. If people could just admit to having an issue with breasts being exposed in public at least we could then have an honest debate instead of hiding behind the excuses of concern for the welfare of the child. She made a choice which is her right to make. I doubt many others would choose to make that same choice, but if they did what harm is it to anybody else beyond their sensitive discomfort? | |||
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"Info gleaned from elsewhere on this story. Apparently she was happy to leave the pool and feed at the side but was told this was still unacceptable and told to feed either in changing room or toilet. Toilet is completely unacceptable. Changing rooms vary n my local pool it's stupid very small bench seats its impossible to not slide off! To the side of the pool would seem to me perfectly acceptable and she should not have been told otherwise. " | |||
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"I would not want my child seeing a grown women's tit there's a time and a place and a kids pool is not the place. " How pathetic is this attitude? A woman extremely quickly exposes her breast before the baby attaches to it. This is the perfect time to answer innocent questions of what's the lady doing/ what breasts are for in nature. There is one other comment more pathetic: that men may feel uncomfortable. Ohhhhh tough titty! Personally IN the pool poses health and safety issues and a seat at the side is more suitable. | |||
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"The "its natural" is not an argument to defend it. Actually it is. It doesn't appear to have been an issue for her - you can deal with your own issue. The milk in the pool argument is weak - you can be pretty sure there's far worse in it. You didn't quote the next part which said having a poo is natural but you wouldn't do that in the pool.. Or what about having sex that's natural, should we do that whereever if the urge gets us? How about any older kids.. Maybe they get hungry.. Should she get out a sandwich and feed them in the pool too? I ignored it because it was pathetic. Poo and milk are comparable? How? As for the other arguments - hygiene is no more relevant than the general hygiene of a baby being in the pool when water would enter its mouth anyway. The 'dropping the baby' concern is laughable. If you're going to drop a baby anywhere seems water is a safe bet. If people could just admit to having an issue with breasts being exposed in public at least we could then have an honest debate instead of hiding behind the excuses of concern for the welfare of the child. She made a choice which is her right to make. I doubt many others would choose to make that same choice, but if they did what harm is it to anybody else beyond their sensitive discomfort?" As previously said....you do not eat or drink in a swimming pool!!!!! If she wasn't allowed to feed by side of pool then tha is wrong. If she was spraying milk and baby vom in pool thats gross!!!! | |||
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"As previously said....you do not eat or drink in a swimming pool!!!!! If she wasn't allowed to feed by side of pool then tha is wrong. If she was spraying milk and baby vom in pool thats gross!!!!" Really? We'll just add your concern for 'spraying milk' to the attitude against the 'earth mother' et al. But it's of no concern to you that people enter a pool with who knows what on their hands, feet, costumes - possibly not wiped their backside that thoroughly, maybe piss just a little in the pool, snot, a bit of spit - and all taken care of by the chemicals in the pool. Those militant women throwing their boobs out at every opportunity are a real problem aren't they? | |||
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"I still can't see how people are trying to justify this and are missing the point. Agreed women should be able to breast feed in public when their child needs a feed, which I have zero issues with as it is natural. However his is over ruled by anywhere that has rules in place that you must follow, thus you should plan accordingly. In this case pool rules are no eating or drinking in the pool. The rule has been broken so I don't see what the issue is with the woman being asked to stop? To me this does scream a case of someone getting on their high horse and wanting to simply make a scene etc. It does appear that common sense is being bread out of the human race these days Spot on. I'm guessing she was probably an 'Earth Mother' type that rams her udders down peoples throats at any moment just because she can! She could have taken the kid out of the pool quite eeasily and fed it by the side of the pool and no one would have cared. It's very unhygienic as anyone that's had children knows babies quite often bring milk straight back up and that milk will potentially go in the pool. If she was standing in pool feeding baby from a jar would people be happy about that? How about if I stand in pool drinking a coffee??????" Actually yes they would of cared, she asked if she could move to the side of the pool and they told her no to go to the changing room or toilet. So it makes it pretty clear to me that the hygiene excuses they were giving were actually total bollocks and they just wanted her somewhere she couldn't be seen. | |||
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"I breast fed my little one, and granted they are not always on a schedule and sometimes you have to feed in a public place, generally discreetly. But the pool??? Clearly she was very bloody minded, just because you've had a child doesn't mean you loose your sense of decent, had I been there with my son, I would have told her to get out. " At least that's an honest answer - albeit a caveman type response. You could educate your son that boobies are ok - maybe then these debates won't be necessary in the future. | |||
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" So it makes it pretty clear to me that the hygiene excuses they were giving were actually total bollocks and they just wanted her somewhere she couldn't be seen. " At every swimming baths we have been to you are not allowed to sit at the side of the pool | |||
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"I breast fed my little one, and granted they are not always on a schedule and sometimes you have to feed in a public place, generally discreetly. But the pool??? Clearly she was very bloody minded, just because you've had a child doesn't mean you loose your sense of decent, had I been there with my son, I would have told her to get out. At least that's an honest answer - albeit a caveman type response. You could educate your son that boobies are ok - maybe then these debates won't be necessary in the future." And run the risk of the child growing up normal, well balanced and not obsessed with boobs? That's not very British, is it? | |||
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