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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

OK,

Before you shoot back that I'm white and have an inferiority complex, let me say this....

I think black men are beautiful, I understand completely why anyone, of any colour would find a black man hot, many black men are hot. But here's the thing.

A white person who only wants to fuck black people, let's be specific, a white woman who only wants to fuck black men, a white man who only wants to fuck a black man (are there any white guys who won't fuck a hot black woman, I can't find them) and states this on his/her profile risks doing down the men they desire with a very specific kind of insult...a very old sexualised and objectifying insult that black men have suffered for a long time.

OK you may say there's lots of horny hot black men on this site that want to avail of white pussy and they dont' give a flying fuck why that white ass wants them. I agree, they are free agents, adults and they make their own decisions, they want to fuck white pussy perhaps for the very reason white pussy wants to fuck them...is that not what fabswingers is about? perhaps it is, but let me put it this way...we have date ranges, we can block people that are not an age or gender we don't want to meet, then let fabswingers block race...if you want to be contacted by white or black people exclusively, then let the system give you that option....but for profiles to overtly say that black, Asian or white people are not there thing, is, intended or not, racist. Sensually, erotically, skin colour does not change the tones and shape or our bodies, the nature of our erotic inclinations and proclivities, it does not have any bearing on the character of any of us...a TV kinky submissive beautiful black man is no different physically then a TV kinky submissive white man other then the world of difference that is their personality.

So I say to all those with an erotic weakness for those racially opposite them.....ask Fabswingers to filter or just put in the work and filter with your eyes, but don't racially segregate on profiles, because, yes, it's racist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I cannot disagree more. We all have our own preferences, whether it be hair colour / height / shape / age / colour or gender etc. It really is as simple as that.

I'm sure most of us have friends or relations that we love and that fit into many of the categories mentioned above and we think nothing of it. But when it comes to the act of sex, it is unquestionable that there has to be some form of physical attraction. I truly believe that when someone specifies a colour preference, it really is no different to someone preferring a blonde over a brunette; it really is that simple and shouldn't be questioned, criticised or branded a racist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist. "

but your on a sex site, your supposed to just fuck anyone who asks, didn't you know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok. I'm racist. Next post please.

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By *cottishrichMan  over a year ago

Here and there


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist. "

Also, someone's preference on fab may not be representative of their views in the vanilla world. People might only be looking to swing with someone different from their partner.

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By *eeriseWoman  over a year ago

Manchester and that's all you need to know

There's nothing racist with having a preference hun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist. "

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By *llie RoseWoman  over a year ago

By the seaside

Maybe it's just what you happen to be attracted to. Some people are attracted to blondes, some a certain body shape, some to hairy, etc etc. Be a pretty dull world if we all wanted the same things.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I personally dont have any preferences, my dream man is as close as a light switch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is there something in the water today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is there something in the water today "

Yup.

It's a new brand of sparkling weak willed needy pussy drink.

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By *un KnightsCouple  over a year ago

South West


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

its not racist

nor is it gender ist, sexual practise ist, size ist, ageist, hair or lack of ist or any of the other many differences that folk choose to not meet..

folk who say the don't wish to meet black or Asian are not denigrating those people..

nor are they saying those of 'colour' other than their own are less capable in bed or whatever..

they are just stating their preference..

its their profile, as is yours and as is ours..

its theirs to use how they choose for them..

why are you 'seeing something' which in all likelihood isn't there for the majority..?

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By *livia_KWoman  over a year ago

South London

Is today Thursday?

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By *aster of a mindCouple  over a year ago

York

What a complicated read that was. However, I totally disagree with what OP is saying....preference is not racist, even if I do put it on my profile. We do not play with Bi men, I do not consider that sexist! We do not play with people over 60, that is not ageist either!

Me shouting obscenities, treating people differently, giving preferable treatment because of skin colour, THAT IS RACIST. Choosing not to have sex with someone because of skin colour is not!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you say you won't meet XYZ - that's discriminating.

If you say you would like to meet XYZ - that's expressing a preference.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?"

Because with the exception of being bi all those are changeable things. People can't change skin colour.

I kind of get the racist element to the agreement after you can't say you find ALL members of one race sexy or unattractive because you have not met ALL members of that race.

It is a fine line between preference and racism and it could be down to a simple a thing as wording.

Of course no one is saying you have to fuck everyone no matter the colour if their skin but to take people on their merits rather than excluding all members if one race in one fail swoop.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is there something in the water today

Yup.

It's a new brand of sparkling weak willed needy pussy drink.

"

There was me thinking I am listening to a broken record! Must try harder

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend

if someone wants to fuck a black/ white/ fat/thin/blonde/ brunette/ginger / tall / short / bald/old/young and man or woman s urely that's there choice... if you don't fit the profile ,don't get annoyed ... move on ...its a personal preference

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is there something in the water today

Yup.

It's a new brand of sparkling weak willed needy pussy drink.

There was me thinking I am listening to a broken record! Must try harder "

Nope. Me too.

Fab needs a mute button.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is there something in the water today

Yup.

It's a new brand of sparkling weak willed needy pussy drink.

There was me thinking I am listening to a broken record! Must try harder

Nope. Me too.

Fab needs a mute button. "

Nah!!! Rewind and scream if you want to go faster

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People deserve the right to choice, others will feel discriminated against and you won't change either viewpoint. There is a middle ground but frankly who really knows where it is you fill find people choose not to meet fat people thin people old people young people married people coloured people white people unemployed people guys with beards ,women with tashes big cocks small cocks and the list goes on although the one people jump up and does most flag waving is the racist one. We all make our conclusions on why people chose not to do/meet someone but ultimately they have the right of choice and for someone else to try and accuse them of being this or that is decisive at best.

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By *aster of a mindCouple  over a year ago

York


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because with the exception of being bi all those are changeable things. People can't change skin colour.

I kind of get the racist element to the agreement after you can't say you find ALL members of one race sexy or unattractive because you have not met ALL members of that race.

It is a fine line between preference and racism and it could be down to a simple a thing as wording.

Of course no one is saying you have to fuck everyone no matter the colour if their skin but to take people on their merits rather than excluding all members if one race in one fail swoop. "

Evie, You exclude all 49+ years olds and haven't met them all....ageist or not??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

From the other race post:

As far as I can see, racism is an idea of superiority...believing that one race has the right to subjugate another. Although quite a few profiles indicate a racial preference, I feel it's unlikely that this is because these people feel they are 'better' due to their phenotypical traits...bearing in mind race is merely a social construct.

And even IF there were SOME individuals who felt this way towards other ethnic groups/races/nationalities and are dressing it up as preferences - thus hiding behind those people who are simply and honestly indicating preference - you're hardly going to change any prejudices by making accusations of racism or bigotry - no matter how well founded or accurate they may be.

In fact all these threads are going to do is upset/annoy the genuine folk who are simply expressing preferences..which for all we know are simply a flavour of the month for them. Ultimately, nothing will change.

In the end, my philosophy is to try my best to be genuine, decent, courteous...both to myself and others... Hopefully people will recognise my efforts...and if some still don't like me... c'est la vie

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is there something in the water today

Yup.

It's a new brand of sparkling weak willed needy pussy drink.

There was me thinking I am listening to a broken record! Must try harder

Nope. Me too.

Fab needs a mute button.

Nah!!! Rewind and scream if you want to go faster "

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By *Kgirl80Woman  over a year ago

South Coast

If we all took our preferences off of our profiles it'd be a frigging free for all...

How would you ever know who might be worth messaging, meeting etc?!

I use people's profile text and preferences to establish whether we could potentially 'click' - not sure where you'd even start without that info

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If we all took our preferences off of our profiles it'd be a frigging free for all...

How would you ever know who might be worth messaging, meeting etc?!

I use people's profile text and preferences to establish whether we could potentially 'click' - not sure where you'd even start without that info "

So is it yayga?....

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By *Kgirl80Woman  over a year ago

South Coast


"If we all took our preferences off of our profiles it'd be a frigging free for all...

How would you ever know who might be worth messaging, meeting etc?!

I use people's profile text and preferences to establish whether we could potentially 'click' - not sure where you'd even start without that info

So is it yayga?...."

Mwuahahahaha yes! Y Y Y it's a Y sound! Grrr

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If we all took our preferences off of our profiles it'd be a frigging free for all...

How would you ever know who might be worth messaging, meeting etc?!

I use people's profile text and preferences to establish whether we could potentially 'click' - not sure where you'd even start without that info

So is it yayga?....

Mwuahahahaha yes! Y Y Y it's a Y sound! Grrr "

Lolol. I think ahem ....something else was distracting me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is this the right thread for some pringles?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When doing more socialising than i do now, i met MEN....chatted,snogged,groped,fucked....whatever ? if there was a connection..

At no time did colour, race or creed come into it.

And thats what it is....

Having a connection to someone who floats ya boat, some like this and some like that. And to be honest....

This site has never ever put up with racism in any shape or form ...

Not many would put up with it. What they dont like is being wrongly accused of it when all it is ..is...choice.

Slinks back to the cupboard.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this the right thread for some pringles? "

i like plain ones, cos am racist against any pringles with a different flavour...especially those sour cream ones...they expect to be treated differently, even tho they are shite..and I can safely say I've met ALL sour cream pringles

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"What a complicated read that was. However, I totally disagree with what OP is saying....preference is not racist, even if I do put it on my profile. We do not play with Bi men, I do not consider that sexist! We do not play with people over 60, that is not ageist either!

Me shouting obscenities, treating people differently, giving preferable treatment because of skin colour, THAT IS RACIST. Choosing not to have sex with someone because of skin colour is not!!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this the right thread for some pringles?

i like plain ones, cos am racist against any pringles with a different flavour...especially those sour cream ones...they expect to be treated differently, even tho they are shite..and I can safely say I've met ALL sour cream pringles"

Wrong!!!! you so hav'nt met the ones ive just gobbled up! you have no idea what your talking about,pracist!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this the right thread for some pringles?

i like plain ones, cos am racist against any pringles with a different flavour...especially those sour cream ones...they expect to be treated differently, even tho they are shite..and I can safely say I've met ALL sour cream pringles

Wrong!!!! you so hav'nt met the ones ive just gobbled up! you have no idea what your talking about,pracist!!"

pracist...how dare u..I just dont like the way they taste

and I block anyone who m-eats sour cream pringles

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this the right thread for some pringles?

i like plain ones, cos am racist against any pringles with a different flavour...especially those sour cream ones...they expect to be treated differently, even tho they are shite..and I can safely say I've met ALL sour cream pringles

Wrong!!!! you so hav'nt met the ones ive just gobbled up! you have no idea what your talking about,pracist!!"

Pringilist

tho he may have an ism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bloody hell, should we all start just sleeping with who other people think we should be sleeping with, rather than what WE actually want.

A bit fed up of this constant elephant in the room; racism. Can we not celebrate differences in each other, instead of constantly attempting this futile exercise of 'let's pretend that absolutely everyone is exactly the bloody same'.

It shows a complete lack of imagination.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bloody hell, should we all start just sleeping with who other people think we should be sleeping with, rather than what WE actually want.

A bit fed up of this constant elephant in the room; racism. Can we not celebrate differences in each other, instead of constantly attempting this futile exercise of 'let's pretend that absolutely everyone is exactly the bloody same'.

It shows a complete lack of imagination. "

pink elephants were shunned from their species...cos the other elerphants knew they looked cuter than them.Fucking big brained dobbers!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because with the exception of being bi all those are changeable things. People can't change skin colour.

I kind of get the racist element to the agreement after you can't say you find ALL members of one race sexy or unattractive because you have not met ALL members of that race.

It is a fine line between preference and racism and it could be down to a simple a thing as wording.

Of course no one is saying you have to fuck everyone no matter the colour if their skin but to take people on their merits rather than excluding all members if one race in one fail swoop.

Evie, You exclude all 49+ years olds and haven't met them all....ageist or not??"

I don't exclude them because my filters aren't on. That is merely a guideline. Fact is I have met a few guys over that age because I took them on their own merit like I said

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Im sorry but i think the toilet roll beneath your chin is full

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield

Does this mean I'm heightist cos I prefer tall men?

And sexist cos I prefer men?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Im sorry but i think the toilet roll beneath your chin is full "

Whose???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im sorry but i think the toilet roll beneath your chin is full

Whose???"

sorry him x

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By *ndykayMan  over a year ago

Falkirk

I must be sexist then as I only want to have sex with ladies and not men *hangs head in shame*

I don't believe it's racist to choose who you will or won't have sex with - just personal preference

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"OK,

Before you shoot back that I'm white and have an inferiority complex, let me say this....

I think black men are beautiful, I understand completely why anyone, of any colour would find a black man hot, many black men are hot. But here's the thing.

A white person who only wants to fuck black people, let's be specific, a white woman who only wants to fuck black men, a white man who only wants to fuck a black man (are there any white guys who won't fuck a hot black woman, I can't find them) and states this on his/her profile risks doing down the men they desire with a very specific kind of insult...a very old sexualised and objectifying insult that black men have suffered for a long time.

OK you may say there's lots of horny hot black men on this site that want to avail of white pussy and they dont' give a flying fuck why that white ass wants them. I agree, they are free agents, adults and they make their own decisions, they want to fuck white pussy perhaps for the very reason white pussy wants to fuck them...is that not what fabswingers is about? perhaps it is, but let me put it this way...we have date ranges, we can block people that are not an age or gender we don't want to meet, then let fabswingers block race...if you want to be contacted by white or black people exclusively, then let the system give you that option....but for profiles to overtly say that black, Asian or white people are not there thing, is, intended or not, racist. Sensually, erotically, skin colour does not change the tones and shape or our bodies, the nature of our erotic inclinations and proclivities, it does not have any bearing on the character of any of us...a TV kinky submissive beautiful black man is no different physically then a TV kinky submissive white man other then the world of difference that is their personality.

So I say to all those with an erotic weakness for those racially opposite them.....ask Fabswingers to filter or just put in the work and filter with your eyes, but don't racially segregate on profiles, because, yes, it's racist."

I'm a simple gal, I need spelling out to me in words of only one syllable how I, a black woman, is racist for only meeting white men?

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I cannot disagree more. We all have our own preferences, whether it be hair colour / height / shape / age / colour or gender etc. It really is as simple as that.

I'm sure most of us have friends or relations that we love and that fit into many of the categories mentioned above and we think nothing of it. But when it comes to the act of sex, it is unquestionable that there has to be some form of physical attraction. I truly believe that when someone specifies a colour preference, it really is no different to someone preferring a blonde over a brunette; it really is that simple and shouldn't be questioned, criticised or branded a racist."

This!

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist.

Also, someone's preference on fab may not be representative of their views in the vanilla world. People might only be looking to swing with someone different from their partner. "

...or like myself fulfilling MY fantasy without the need to justify it to people bitter at being excluded.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?"

None whatsoever!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Two words - PERSONAL PREFERENCE !!!

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By *tirling DarkCouple  over a year ago

Stirling

We wont meet people with shaven heads, just a huge turn off for me, what's that classed as?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We wont meet people with shaven heads, just a huge turn off for me, what's that classed as? "
a head start

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We wont meet people with shaven heads, just a huge turn off for me, what's that classed as? "

Slapist!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The idea of this site is to play with who you want, so I thought?!

I don't consider myself racist, but I only play with white people.

It's just how I roll.

Don't really get the point of this thread.

Very pc but a load of bs?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because with the exception of being bi all those are changeable things. People can't change skin colour.

I kind of get the racist element to the agreement after you can't say you find ALL members of one race sexy or unattractive because you have not met ALL members of that race.

It is a fine line between preference and racism and it could be down to a simple a thing as wording.

Of course no one is saying you have to fuck everyone no matter the colour if their skin but to take people on their merits rather than excluding all members if one race in one fail swoop.

Evie, You exclude all 49+ years olds and haven't met them all....ageist or not??"

George Clooney is 52 i bet the over 48 rule would not include him??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oi. What have you eaten this morning? Where did racism come in to all this?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because with the exception of being bi all those are changeable things. People can't change skin colour.

I kind of get the racist element to the agreement after you can't say you find ALL members of one race sexy or unattractive because you have not met ALL members of that race.

It is a fine line between preference and racism and it could be down to a simple a thing as wording.

Of course no one is saying you have to fuck everyone no matter the colour if their skin but to take people on their merits rather than excluding all members if one race in one fail swoop.

Evie, You exclude all 49+ years olds and haven't met them all....ageist or not??George Clooney is 52 i bet the over 48 rule would not include him??"

I don't find George Clooney attractive so the age thing is irrelevant

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?"

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it

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By *lackshadow7Man  over a year ago

Toronto

For the love of......stop with these threads. Seriously!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ffs people chill out!!

So if you're homosexual or heterosexual, you must be sexist?!

Keeping it real.

We can all have fun with whoever we choose. I personally don't give 2 hoots about anyone who chooses to judge me for it.

Schwwwwiiiiiiiiinnnnnggg.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For the love of......stop with these threads. Seriously!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's like a Venn Diagram

Some who won't meet a particle race and say it's a preference are racist, some because they want a change and some because of other reasons.

However often in threads on this subject the rationale for their particular "preference" often comes across as racist.

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread

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By *ILLY aka SirslagWoman  over a year ago

Land of the Prince Bishops


"Is this the right thread for some pringles?

i like plain ones, cos am racist against any pringles with a different flavour...especially those sour cream ones...they expect to be treated differently, even tho they are shite..and I can safely say I've met ALL sour cream pringles"

ill try them all ........and ill have pringles too ...thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Evidently 'race' is the new 'bbw' when it comes to threads

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

seriously I mean seriously we go from race to being fat in one thread....Come on is it really necessary...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think you need to look up the definition of racist. We don't want to meet black men and are not racist at all. We have friends which are black but I don't want to have sex with a black bloke.

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By *lackshadow7Man  over a year ago

Toronto


"

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread "

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic."

Also because its been done, to death.

Over and over and over and over.

Typically these things start because someone has gotten their panties in a bunch at the fact that they have found a profile that gets them a hard-on (or a wide-on) only to find that the profile owners preferences prohibit them from ever being in with a chance.

Informed, mature debate is great about almost any topic, but most of these threads just start with 'wahhh wahhh wahhh'

Seriously, take your pick from the 'hot topics' - race, religion, height, weight, age, location, leaving.... For about 3 weeks now its just been incessant fucking Baaawww thread after 'woe is me thread' ending up in flame wars, falling outs and general ill feeling - all over the same handful of topics which have been flayed to death until there is simply nothing original or new left to say on it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic.

Also because its been done, to death.

Over and over and over and over.

Typically these things start because someone has gotten their panties in a bunch at the fact that they have found a profile that gets them a hard-on (or a wide-on) only to find that the profile owners preferences prohibit them from ever being in with a chance.

Informed, mature debate is great about almost any topic, but most of these threads just start with 'wahhh wahhh wahhh'

Seriously, take your pick from the 'hot topics' - race, religion, height, weight, age, location, leaving.... For about 3 weeks now its just been incessant fucking Baaawww thread after 'woe is me thread' ending up in flame wars, falling outs and general ill feeling - all over the same handful of topics which have been flayed to death until there is simply nothing original or new left to say on it. "

^ This

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By *layfullsamMan  over a year ago

Solihull


"OK,

Before you shoot back that I'm white and have an inferiority complex, let me say this....

I think black men are beautiful, I understand completely why anyone, of any colour would find a black man hot, many black men are hot. But here's the thing.

A white person who only wants to fuck black people, let's be specific, a white woman who only wants to fuck black men, a white man who only wants to fuck a black man (are there any white guys who won't fuck a hot black woman, I can't find them) and states this on his/her profile risks doing down the men they desire with a very specific kind of insult...a very old sexualised and objectifying insult that black men have suffered for a long time.

OK you may say there's lots of horny hot black men on this site that want to avail of white pussy and they dont' give a flying fuck why that white ass wants them. I agree, they are free agents, adults and they make their own decisions, they want to fuck white pussy perhaps for the very reason white pussy wants to fuck them...is that not what fabswingers is about? perhaps it is, but let me put it this way...we have date ranges, we can block people that are not an age or gender we don't want to meet, then let fabswingers block race...if you want to be contacted by white or black people exclusively, then let the system give you that option....but for profiles to overtly say that black, Asian or white people are not there thing, is, intended or not, racist. Sensually, erotically, skin colour does not change the tones and shape or our bodies, the nature of our erotic inclinations and proclivities, it does not have any bearing on the character of any of us...a TV kinky submissive beautiful black man is no different physically then a TV kinky submissive white man other then the world of difference that is their personality.

So I say to all those with an erotic weakness for those racially opposite them.....ask Fabswingers to filter or just put in the work and filter with your eyes, but don't racially segregate on profiles, because, yes, it's racist."

pleased that you've put a lot of thought into this but its still a stupid and ridiculous conclusion

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By *lackshadow7Man  over a year ago

Toronto


"

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic.

Also because its been done, to death.

Over and over and over and over.

Typically these things start because someone has gotten their panties in a bunch at the fact that they have found a profile that gets them a hard-on (or a wide-on) only to find that the profile owners preferences prohibit them from ever being in with a chance.

Informed, mature debate is great about almost any topic, but most of these threads just start with 'wahhh wahhh wahhh'

Seriously, take your pick from the 'hot topics' - race, religion, height, weight, age, location, leaving.... For about 3 weeks now its just been incessant fucking Baaawww thread after 'woe is me thread' ending up in flame wars, falling outs and general ill feeling - all over the same handful of topics which have been flayed to death until there is simply nothing original or new left to say on it. "

Yep!!

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic.

Also because its been done, to death.

Over and over and over and over.

Typically these things start because someone has gotten their panties in a bunch at the fact that they have found a profile that gets them a hard-on (or a wide-on) only to find that the profile owners preferences prohibit them from ever being in with a chance.

Informed, mature debate is great about almost any topic, but most of these threads just start with 'wahhh wahhh wahhh'

Seriously, take your pick from the 'hot topics' - race, religion, height, weight, age, location, leaving.... For about 3 weeks now its just been incessant fucking Baaawww thread after 'woe is me thread' ending up in flame wars, falling outs and general ill feeling - all over the same handful of topics which have been flayed to death until there is simply nothing original or new left to say on it. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic.

Also because its been done, to death.

Over and over and over and over.

Typically these things start because someone has gotten their panties in a

Informed, mature debate is great about almost any topic, but most of these threads just start with 'wahhh wahhh wahhh'

Seriously, take your pick from the 'hot topics' - race, religion, height, weight, age, location, leaving.... For about 3 weeks now its just been incessant fucking Baaawww thread after 'woe is me thread' ending up in flame wars, falling outs and general ill feeling - all over the same handful of topics which have been flayed to death until there is simply nothing original or new left to say on it. "

So right!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Problem is that although there may be nothing new left to say, that doesn't mean that everyone has had their say it indeed that everyone has read all the arguments.

There is no doubt that some of those that put a racial preference on their profile are racists. But, it's hard to identify who they are without cross reading their posts and their rationales. However the long and short of it is. If someone is racist and you're from that racial group they dislike then why would you want to meet them anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For the love of......stop with these threads. Seriously!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm happy to meet any single male of any ethnicity if he meets my criteria and I find him attractive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I for one have had enough of these threads and if I see another one I'm going to hijack it with my white hot whit and cunning use of the English language. Be warned

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Problem is that although there may be nothing new left to say, that doesn't mean that everyone has had their say it indeed that everyone has read all the arguments.

There is no doubt that some of those that put a racial preference on their profile are racists. But, it's hard to identify who they are without cross reading their posts and their rationales. However the long and short of it is. If someone is racist and you're from that racial group they dislike then why would you want to meet them anyway? "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I must be sexist then hey for being straight.?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For goodness sake! I have stated on my profile that I only want to meet white men. I AM NOT RACIST! I do not find black or Asian men attractive, its as simple as that. It is because i dont find black willies attractive, they might be very handsome but i dont like the appearance of them. Just as men who don't like the look of my mummy tummy. Its MY preference as to who i have sex with so i can put what the bloody hell i like on my profile!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok. I'm racist. Next post please. "

+1

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For goodness sake! I have stated on my profile that I only want to meet white men. I AM NOT RACIST! I do not find black or Asian men attractive, its as simple as that. It is because i dont find black willies attractive, they might be very handsome but i dont like the appearance of them. Just as men who don't like the look of my mummy tummy. Its MY preference as to who i have sex with so i can put what the bloody hell i like on my profile!!!!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For goodness sake! I have stated on my profile that I only want to meet white men. I AM NOT RACIST! I do not find black or Asian men attractive, its as simple as that. It is because i dont find black willies attractive, they might be very handsome but i dont like the appearance of them. Just as men who don't like the look of my mummy tummy. Its MY preference as to who i have sex with so i can put what the bloody hell i like on my profile!!!!"

I like that expression of mummy tummy :D

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"OK,

Before you shoot back that I'm white and have an inferiority complex, let me say this....

I think black men are beautiful, I understand completely why anyone, of any colour would find a black man hot, many black men are hot. But here's the thing.

A white person who only wants to fuck black people, let's be specific, a white woman who only wants to fuck black men, a white man who only wants to fuck a black man (are there any white guys who won't fuck a hot black woman, I can't find them) and states this on his/her profile risks doing down the men they desire with a very specific kind of insult...a very old sexualised and objectifying insult that black men have suffered for a long time.

OK you may say there's lots of horny hot black men on this site that want to avail of white pussy and they dont' give a flying fuck why that white ass wants them. I agree, they are free agents, adults and they make their own decisions, they want to fuck white pussy perhaps for the very reason white pussy wants to fuck them...is that not what fabswingers is about? perhaps it is, but let me put it this way...we have date ranges, we can block people that are not an age or gender we don't want to meet, then let fabswingers block race...if you want to be contacted by white or black people exclusively, then let the system give you that option....but for profiles to overtly say that black, Asian or white people are not there thing, is, intended or not, racist. Sensually, erotically, skin colour does not change the tones and shape or our bodies, the nature of our erotic inclinations and proclivities, it does not have any bearing on the character of any of us...a TV kinky submissive beautiful black man is no different physically then a TV kinky submissive white man other then the world of difference that is their personality.

So I say to all those with an erotic weakness for those racially opposite them.....ask Fabswingers to filter or just put in the work and filter with your eyes, but don't racially segregate on profiles, because, yes, it's racist."

okay what a rant....

first of all I think my position has been well known on here for a while

it is not racist and it is a sexual preference, after all, I assume you have a "type" you tend to go for.... and when you have said no to people that has been because you have a preference....

however.... it is also my preference not to be seen as someone elses "niche" .... so I tend not to be interested in people who I perceive to want me for the colour of my skin,

If I feel it is a major factor.. then I walk, simple as! I am me and want people to like me for me and the things I can control, as opposed to the things that I cant...

I am not interested in the black/white party thing (been, tried, felt very uncomfortable with the way people were and the way people were acting/talking) as for me it promotes something that makes me personally feel very "not happy"....

some play up to stereotypes.... some shy away! you just tend to find if playing up brings a negative reaction that is when the "race card" comes out....

double edged sword.....

but that is me.... so get back to you and lets play a bit of "devils advocate"

say you got talking to the most gorgeous black/asian (take your pick) woman.... and whilst talking to her you find out she only plays with white guys?

would you still play with her????

is she not then as "racist" as the others???

For every profile you show me that says black guys only I am betting I can show you one that says "white guys only"..... want to take me up on it???

see there has been the arguement for what basically is an "ethnic filter" going on for a while... me personally, hate it!! I would refuse to use it, I want no part of it.....

I would then ask for a filter who want to use the filter, because they are probably not people I would be interested in meeting...

what I have said in the past is that "some" with the way certain things are worded are probably putting off a lot of the very people they are actually trying to attract...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it "

wtf? What your saying is people who put down on their profile that,they meet white only, no asians, blah,blah blah is subconsciously racist?

what the hell has slavery and persecution of black people got to do with not being sexually attracted to a particular race?? Absolutely fuck all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm exactly the kind of person this thread is about. I am positively discriminating in my strong personal preference for black guys over white. Not to say ill play with any black guy on the basis of skin colour alone as I have to be attracted to them first and have a good connection with them first. I do occasionally play with white guys in group play but don't seek them out for one on one. By stating my preference on my profile im keeping it real which allows guys who do read my profile know whether or not its worth their while in-boxing me. I cant change who I am and what does it for me sexually. Most of us have preferences in what we find sexually attractive and it seems unfair that us with a preference for a certain skin tone, race or nationality are jumped on very much more so than other kinds of preferences such as hair colour, weight and body shape etc. My inbox is often filled with insults and racially motivated abuse from white and Asian guys based on my preference for black guys. Im here to satisfy myself and the guys I meet, not the minority who believe im here to provide a service to any guy who believes I should meet them despite not being my type for whatever reason it may be. Each to their own is my approach as us swingers are a diverse group or people and cant please everyone. Happy Swinging x

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By *uteguy06Man  over a year ago

Swindon

I don't see it as being Racist it's just your sexual preference, but what really gets me are the people who will completely ignore all people of a certain race due them either having a bad meet before, have had abuse, had bad experiences with people from that certain race outside of fab because not everyone is the same, like not all men are complete fools, some are but not all of us and the same principle goes for certain races not all within that race are bad!

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden


"Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it "

Oh, seriously!!

you are not old enough to even remember the race problems of the 60's, let alone the 'mistreatment for 100s of years' that you speak of! Why can't you live life for today and accept that although bad stuff did happen, you can't keep beating the "white folks" over the head with it forever!

And talk about patronising! 'Its all about historical context love.'..

It is all about preference. We won't meet fat people. We won't meet those with facial hair. We won't meet those under 35! We have preferences! You want to talk racist? Well, your post for one! It smacks of racism to me, but maybe that is just my take on it, but who is to say?

I have heard loads of times, the term "white boy" used by black mates. Bet if I started to use "black boy" there would soon be a bust up!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it

Oh, seriously!!

you are not old enough to even remember the race problems of the 60's, let alone the 'mistreatment for 100s of years' that you speak of! Why can't you live life for today and accept that although bad stuff did happen, you can't keep beating the "white folks" over the head with it forever!

And talk about patronising! 'Its all about historical context love.'..

It is all about preference. We won't meet fat people. We won't meet those with facial hair. We won't meet those under 35! We have preferences! You want to talk racist? Well, your post for one! It smacks of racism to me, but maybe that is just my take on it, but who is to say?

I have heard loads of times, the term "white boy" used by black mates. Bet if I started to use "black boy" there would soon be a bust up! "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Presumably that would depend if you were saying black boy in reference to a black boy, or as a term of endearment or intending to offend.

I think the 100's of years thing was more reference to why some people may be more sensitive to issues of race than they are for hair style or age.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Are we still on this bull! Yawns

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's hard to put a fire out when people enjoy throwing fuel on it - and then moan about the heat.

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By *lackshadow7Man  over a year ago

Toronto


"

I have heard loads of times, the term "white boy" used by black mates. Bet if I started to use "black boy" there would soon be a bust up! "

How idiotic.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

I have heard loads of times, the term "white boy" used by black mates. Bet if I started to use "black boy" there would soon be a bust up!

How idiotic."

have to say absolutely agree... stunned...

for that to be used as an arguement by people I actually respect is disappointing........

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


" I have heard loads of times, the term "white boy" used by black mates. Bet if I started to use "black boy" there would soon be a bust up! "

I would be surprised that you had heard 'loads', think your exaggerating to make a point..

the fact that you have chosen the term 'black boy' says more about you than anything else..

the poster you refer to has his own perception based on historical and endemic fact, still prevalent within some on here today I would suggest..

what are your perceptions based on..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it "

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What a load of pish...

Its a preference not racism !!

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By *lackshadow7Man  over a year ago

Toronto

As much as i try not to indulge in thread whining, it is probably a good time for a mod to close this.

The level of ignorance and stupidity on display in this thread is staggering to say the least. Some extremely blinkered world views....this is why topics like these are best not brought up.

Mind you, its a great way to gauge those to avoid, as they inevitably end up with foot in mouth syndrome.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught. "

More white people? Are we talking about the same thing? I'd be interested to hear you source for this as well as how you define a white person? Also how far back in time are you going?

I'll give you Stalinist Russia and nazi germany as using white slaves, but struggling to think of anywhere else that traded them in the same way?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As much as i try not to indulge in thread whining, it is probably a good time for a mod to close this.

The level of ignorance and stupidity on display in this thread is staggering to say the least. Some extremely blinkered world views....this is why topics like these are best not brought up.

Mind you, its a great way to gauge those to avoid, as they inevitably end up with foot in mouth syndrome."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

More white people? Are we talking about the same thing? I'd be interested to hear you source for this as well as how you define a white person? Also how far back in time are you going?

I'll give you Stalinist Russia and nazi germany as using white slaves, but struggling to think of anywhere else that traded them in the same way?"

the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Another emotive and potentially closeable thread

Mainly because most aren't mature or objective enough to have the conversation/ debate about thistopic."

Or not informed enough in some cases. Often using one personal experience to formulate their entire view of a subject.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't meet anyone for sex... Does that make me racist, ageist, sexist, heightist, fattist, and all the other ists?

Btw... I'm a ginger... So there's alot of people out there who don't like us. We are segregated too..

Serious note. Stating a preference is exactly that. A preference. Not being racist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

More white people? Are we talking about the same thing? I'd be interested to hear you source for this as well as how you define a white person? Also how far back in time are you going?

I'll give you Stalinist Russia and nazi germany as using white slaves, but struggling to think of anywhere else that traded them in the same way? the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same. "

that shows an interesting twist on the concept of slavery in the American south. Do you want to give me a reference for your claim there were more white people used as slaves

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same. "

American history I will admit is not my strong point however are you seriously suggesting that domestic staff were treated in any way similar to slaves..

and if these white servants were, why by and large were they replaced with none white slaves..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

More white people? Are we talking about the same thing? I'd be interested to hear you source for this as well as how you define a white person? Also how far back in time are you going?

I'll give you Stalinist Russia and nazi germany as using white slaves, but struggling to think of anywhere else that traded them in the same way? the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

that shows an interesting twist on the concept of slavery in the American south. Do you want to give me a reference for your claim there were more white people used as slaves "

I haven't got a reference to give you as this is something I had come across a few years ago while looking into something for a project I had to do.

Use google wont take you long to find out it's true

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By *ucsparkMan  over a year ago

dudley


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist.

but your on a sex site, your supposed to just fuck anyone who asks, didn't you know "

NN fancy a shag

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

American history I will admit is not my strong point however are you seriously suggesting that domestic staff were treated in any way similar to slaves..

and if these white servants were, why by and large were they replaced with none white slaves..

"

No they weren't domestic staff. They were called something servants and where kept as slaves to work on the plantations. Black slaves became more common because of the anti slavery laws.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

...... Just waiting to find out if I'm racist or not because of my sexual preference. Can someone please let me know when a consensus has been reached?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ok I havnt read thro the thread since last night but how the kin 'ell did we get from sexual preference to slavery?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

American history I will admit is not my strong point however are you seriously suggesting that domestic staff were treated in any way similar to slaves..

and if these white servants were, why by and large were they replaced with none white slaves..

No they weren't domestic staff. They were called something servants and where kept as slaves to work on the plantations. Black slaves became more common because of the anti slavery laws. "

and probably totally pointless asking if you can refer to anything factual to support that I suspect..

think your blurring the actual meaning of slavery..

hey ho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ok I havnt read thro the thread since last night but how the kin 'ell did we get from sexual preference to slavery? "

Exactly! Its ridiculous!!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"ok I havnt read thro the thread since last night but how the kin 'ell did we get from sexual preference to slavery?

Exactly! Its ridiculous!!!"

a lot of threads often stray or evolve..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

More white people? Are we talking about the same thing? I'd be interested to hear you source for this as well as how you define a white person? Also how far back in time are you going?

I'll give you Stalinist Russia and nazi germany as using white slaves, but struggling to think of anywhere else that traded them in the same way? the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

that shows an interesting twist on the concept of slavery in the American south. Do you want to give me a reference for your claim there were more white people used as slaves

I haven't got a reference to give you as this is something I had come across a few years ago while looking into something for a project I had to do.

Use google wont take you long to find out it's true"

This is probably a very different conversation. Indentured servants often traded time in service for transport from Ireland to the USA or to pay off debts. The only sites I can find that support the "more whites than blacks as slaves" are by the national vanguard and white history. Both of which are quite blatantly white supremacist web sites. Prior to this there were white slaves and in absolute numbers taking Roman Empire into account there were probably more white slaves, however this mostly died out in the 1600's when it moved to be controlled by Europeans.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who cares who likes what regardless of race, gender or whatever. People have different preferences and kinks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ok I havnt read thro the thread since last night but how the kin 'ell did we get from sexual preference to slavery?

Exactly! Its ridiculous!!!

a lot of threads often stray or evolve..

"

Yeah and some of the things said...well, like I said earlier, people can have their preferences and views. I'm just going to move on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

American history I will admit is not my strong point however are you seriously suggesting that domestic staff were treated in any way similar to slaves..

and if these white servants were, why by and large were they replaced with none white slaves..

No they weren't domestic staff. They were called something servants and where kept as slaves to work on the plantations. Black slaves became more common because of the anti slavery laws.

and probably totally pointless asking if you can refer to anything factual to support that I suspect..

think your blurring the actual meaning of slavery..

hey ho"

So because you aren't aware of something it's a load of rubbish. Why don't you go and look into it yourself. Have you got proof that what I am saying is wrong. No you haven't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *ucsparkMan  over a year ago

dudley

I insist on anyone I meet having a pulse, does not need to be strong or regular. Race, creed or religion does not matter to me, but I understand those that do not want to meet me for whatever reason. It is one of the advantages of living in a free country.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ok I havnt read thro the thread since last night but how the kin 'ell did we get from sexual preference to slavery?

Exactly! Its ridiculous!!!

a lot of threads often stray or evolve..

Yeah and some of the things said...well, like I said earlier, people can have their preferences and views. I'm just going to move on."

wait for me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I insist on anyone I meet having a pulse, does not need to be strong or regular. Race, creed or religion does not matter to me, but I understand those that do not want to meet me for whatever reason. It is one of the advantages of living in a free country. "

I'd wager that a pulse isn't always a requirement for some people on here too much?

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By *ucsparkMan  over a year ago

dudley


"I insist on anyone I meet having a pulse, does not need to be strong or regular. Race, creed or religion does not matter to me, but I understand those that do not want to meet me for whatever reason. It is one of the advantages of living in a free country.

I'd wager that a pulse isn't always a requirement for some people on here too much? "

No and that is their preference not mine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wow over the last few days there has been numerous threads on racism or preference , and to think I got told how wrong I was that preferring one colour was just that a preference and not racism....... Oh well

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

I can't see how refusing to meet people of a certain colour is racist but it does seem a bit short-sighted.

I can't imagine not speaking to someone on a bus or a train or a plane simply because of their colour.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What constitutes as racism is such a wide range with many forms from the overtly obvious to the sly/ hidden behind closed doors type ! Won't give an essay but would have to agree with some the forum posters points made in his opening opinion made .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

the first slaves used in American plantations where white for starters. They where called servants rather than slaves but treat exactly the same.

American history I will admit is not my strong point however are you seriously suggesting that domestic staff were treated in any way similar to slaves..

and if these white servants were, why by and large were they replaced with none white slaves..

No they weren't domestic staff. They were called something servants and where kept as slaves to work on the plantations. Black slaves became more common because of the anti slavery laws.

and probably totally pointless asking if you can refer to anything factual to support that I suspect..

think your blurring the actual meaning of slavery..

hey ho

So because you aren't aware of something it's a load of rubbish. Why don't you go and look into it yourself. Have you got proof that what I am saying is wrong. No you haven't. "

but neither are you by your previous posts..

it seems its ok for you to say I heard it err somewhere when I was looking into something or other..

had you given something more plausible than you did then that may have initiated a valid counter to your position..

as it stand its just he said she said..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught. "

The entire indigenous population of Britain was enslaved by the Romans in 43AD, and again by the Normans in 1066/7.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

The entire indigenous population of Britain was enslaved by the Romans in 43AD, and again by the Normans in 1066/7."

If we use that as a definition then the majority of the planet were enslaved by the British when they had their empire.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Women who don't meet bi-men are homophobic, to varying degrees... I'm not suggesting tha they should be forced to, but I don't think there's much point in denying the fact either. If that's the extent of their discrimination then I think there's bigger fish to fry out there. Similarly, I think most people who explicitly seek out one racial type over another are discriminating based on supposed racial characteristics. Not necessarily consciously, and of course they shouldn't be compelled to do otherwise. But to deny that the attraction is at least partly informed by racial stereotypes is just plain silly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women who don't meet bi-men are homophobic, to varying degrees... I'm not suggesting tha they should be forced to, but I don't think there's much point in denying the fact either. If that's the extent of their discrimination then I think there's bigger fish to fry out there. Similarly, I think most people who explicitly seek out one racial type over another are discriminating based on supposed racial characteristics. Not necessarily consciously, and of course they shouldn't be compelled to do otherwise. But to deny that the attraction is at least partly informed by racial stereotypes is just plain silly."

Is it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is it too difficult for people to just fuck who they want to without all this shit?

This is a site to meet people for sex,at no point ever will I be coerced into having sex with anyone I don't find attractive just because someone with the hump who is possibly getting no sex wants attach as ism or and ist to what other people are doing?

Ill continue to enjoy what im doing with the lovely people I do it with xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it? "

Yes-one-two-three-fullstop-no-comebacks.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

The entire indigenous population of Britain was enslaved by the Romans in 43AD, and again by the Normans in 1066/7."

Er.......... that would be England, not Britain.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women who don't meet bi-men are homophobic, to varying degrees... I'm not suggesting tha they should be forced to, but I don't think there's much point in denying the fact either. If that's the extent of their discrimination then I think there's bigger fish to fry out there. Similarly, I think most people who explicitly seek out one racial type over another are discriminating based on supposed racial characteristics. Not necessarily consciously, and of course they shouldn't be compelled to do otherwise. But to deny that the attraction is at least partly informed by racial stereotypes is just plain silly.

Is it? "

It is possible since the poster stated partly.

for me attraction starts with the physical features of the face by what is known as the golden proportion. This is a geometrical formula present throughout the universe. Secondly, my own theory of a personal geometrical formula.

Then my other senses kick in. Colour has very little to do with it apart from the fact their personal geometry is unlikely to map out to the same ratios as mine. So i guess I'm waiting for a black man with the golden proportion to pop along.

Denzil Washington

Sid errrrmmm...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sidney poitier

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden


"

I have heard loads of times, the term "white boy" used by black mates. Bet if I started to use "black boy" there would soon be a bust up!

How idiotic.

have to say absolutely agree... stunned...

for that to be used as an arguement by people I actually respect is disappointing........"

I do have to apologise to all who took that the wrong way! I was on the hoof and about to fly out for work! Lesson learned!

My mates ALL use the term white boy whatever colour they are! (yes, even the white one and me included!) That is accepted everywhere we go. I was postulating about what would happen if others heard us calling our black mates "black boy". In no way was any offence intended. Not sure how the others amongst our group would take that term..

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it."

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues! "

I think profile pics of them both in big white pointy hats gave a few clues to their way of thinking too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues!

I think profile pics of them both in big white pointy hats gave a few clues to their way of thinking too "

I couldn't see the hats as the glare from the huge burning cross distracted me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues! "

Staggering

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ain't gonna read all this. Obviously we all have opinions on it: 'I'm not racist, but...' and all that. Have had several women message me back in reply to me trying it on saying (politely most of the time) that they want black men only. Also appreciate that at least some of the time it's because they're just not into little ol' me.

Seems the gist of most messages is that we all have choices: don't fancy, fat, slapheads, too hairy, etc. So surly the site's ageist and sexist by having blocks on age and gender.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I can't see how refusing to meet people of a certain colour is racist but it does seem a bit short-sighted.

I can't imagine not speaking to someone on a bus or a train or a plane simply because of their colour."

I speak to women all the time but have no desire to get naked with one, if that makes me short sighted: guilty as charged!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't see how refusing to meet people of a certain colour is racist but it does seem a bit short-sighted.

I can't imagine not speaking to someone on a bus or a train or a plane simply because of their colour.

I speak to women all the time but have no desire to get naked with one, if that makes me short sighted: guilty as charged!"

That is so sexist!! X

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues! "

yep... still have them blocked as they live actually near me...

I remember my parting shot was to look at their verification list and think to myself "if only they knew........"

actually a lot of the best of fab came out that night....

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"Women who don't meet bi-men are homophobic, to varying degrees... I'm not suggesting tha they should be forced to, but I don't think there's much point in denying the fact either. If that's the extent of their discrimination then I think there's bigger fish to fry out there. Similarly, I think most people who explicitly seek out one racial type over another are discriminating based on supposed racial characteristics. Not necessarily consciously, and of course they shouldn't be compelled to do otherwise. But to deny that the attraction is at least partly informed by racial stereotypes is just plain silly."

What a load of bollocks! I don't play with bi men because the ones I've met enjoy anal play with my strap on. Straight men are embarrassed and go red which I like: it excites me.

Likewise I don't meet married men, not because I care if they're cheating no, but wax marks, shaved pubes and my temporary tattoo "property off Miss Vee" will take sone explaining to a wife!

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"Is it too difficult for people to just fuck who they want to without all this shit?

This is a site to meet people for sex,at no point ever will I be coerced into having sex with anyone I don't find attractive just because someone with the hump who is possibly getting no sex wants attach as ism or and ist to what other people are doing?

Ill continue to enjoy what im doing with the lovely people I do it with xxx

"

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues!

I think profile pics of them both in big white pointy hats gave a few clues to their way of thinking too

I couldn't see the hats as the glare from the huge burning cross distracted me"

*Giggles*

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I think it's simply preferences but I can usually tell in peoples' profiles who's stating this and who's being nasty about it.

Yep! Who can forget the couple that didn't meet black people, or people who met black people, and checked their verifications and verifications of the people who verified them etc and blocked them.

Think it's fair to say they had issues!

Staggering "

The forums went into meltdown that night!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I won't fuck men...I'm obviously sexist

Call the discrimination police!

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I can't see how refusing to meet people of a certain colour is racist but it does seem a bit short-sighted.

I can't imagine not speaking to someone on a bus or a train or a plane simply because of their colour.

I speak to women all the time but have no desire to get naked with one, if that makes me short sighted: guilty as charged!

That is so sexist!! X"

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden


"sexual preference is just that sexual preference, it is not racist.

but your on a sex site, your supposed to just fuck anyone who asks, didn't you know "

*not sure if this is joke or not*

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"Is it too difficult for people to just fuck who they want to without all this shit?

This is a site to meet people for sex,at no point ever will I be coerced into having sex with anyone I don't find attractive just because someone with the hump who is possibly getting no sex wants attach as ism or and ist to what other people are doing?

R

Ill continue to enjoy what im doing with the lovely people I do it with xxx

"

Amen!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OK,

Before you shoot back that I'm white and have an inferiority complex, let me say this....

I think black men are beautiful, I understand completely why anyone, of any colour would find a black man hot, many black men are hot. But here's the thing.

A white person who only wants to fuck black people, let's be specific, a white woman who only wants to fuck black men, a white man who only wants to fuck a black man (are there any white guys who won't fuck a hot black woman, I can't find them) and states this on his/her profile risks doing down the men they desire with a very specific kind of insult...a very old sexualised and objectifying insult that black men have suffered for a long time.

OK you may say there's lots of horny hot black men on this site that want to avail of white pussy and they dont' give a flying fuck why that white ass wants them. I agree, they are free agents, adults and they make their own decisions, they want to fuck white pussy perhaps for the very reason white pussy wants to fuck them...is that not what fabswingers is about? perhaps it is, but let me put it this way...we have date ranges, we can block people that are not an age or gender we don't want to meet, then let fabswingers block race...if you want to be contacted by white or black people exclusively, then let the system give you that option....but for profiles to overtly say that black, Asian or white people are not there thing, is, intended or not, racist. Sensually, erotically, skin colour does not change the tones and shape or our bodies, the nature of our erotic inclinations and proclivities, it does not have any bearing on the character of any of us...a TV kinky submissive beautiful black man is no different physically then a TV kinky submissive white man other then the world of difference that is their personality.

So I say to all those with an erotic weakness for those racially opposite them.....ask Fabswingers to filter or just put in the work and filter with your eyes, but don't racially segregate on profiles, because, yes, it's racist."

Last week a discussion went on for days about exactly the same thing.Did you not look to see if it had been raised before starting the discussion?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"if someone wants to fuck a black/ white/ fat/thin/blonde/ brunette/ginger / tall / short / bald/old/young and man or woman s urely that's there choice... if you don't fit the profile ,don't get annoyed ... move on ...its a personal preference"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it too difficult for people to just fuck who they want to without all this shit?

This is a site to meet people for sex,at no point ever will I be coerced into having sex with anyone I don't find attractive just because someone with the hump who is possibly getting no sex wants attach as ism or and ist to what other people are doing?

Ill continue to enjoy what im doing with the lovely people I do it with xxx

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh I see what this fellas saying !

I don't really like Brussel sprouts but every chrimbo I try one ! So if I go by what this persons saying that makes me a vegetarian ??? Right ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What a load of bollocks! I don't play with bi men because the ones I've met enjoy anal play with my strap on. Straight men are embarrassed and go red which I like: it excites me."

Like a person in orthopaedic shoes, I stand corrected! I really should have said most....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because fat people or those with facial hair were never subjected to slavery or any other mistreatment for 100s of years. Its all about historical context love. Bad feelings arent just there for the sake of it

What a stupid thing to say. If you actually look in to it there has actually been more white people used as slaves and were mistreated. It's just not widely known or taught.

The entire indigenous population of Britain was enslaved by the Romans in 43AD, and again by the Normans in 1066/7."

The reason it's not taught is because it's misleading. There's more than one type of slavery - and a fair bit more if you want to blur some boundaries - but the Atlantic slave trade was an industry - largely expanded by the British and responsible for a massive displacement of people, many of who have descendants living in this country. The regard and treatment of Africans was a whole different level of how one set of people treated another - literally regarded as less than human.

Now I guess the question in the original post was whether you'd shag any of them? I would - well not just any - the fit ones of course.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You could add into this sexism, sizism and a lot of other isms.

It is down to the individual what they like, not racist as that has no place here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i never get how its ok to not want to meet fat women, ok to not want to meet single guys, ok not to like facial hair, ok not to meet bi men, but you say you don't want to meet a certain colour and all hells breaks loose, whats the difference?

Because with the exception of being bi all those are changeable things. People can't change skin colour.

I kind of get the racist element to the agreement after you can't say you find ALL members of one race sexy or unattractive because you have not met ALL members of that race.

It is a fine line between preference and racism and it could be down to a simple a thing as wording.

Of course no one is saying you have to fuck everyone no matter the colour if their skin but to take people on their merits rather than excluding all members if one race in one fail swoop. "

So people can change their age? Right..

People can make themselves hairy if they naturally aren't? Right..

People can have chisled looks if they have soft round features? Right..

Its about phyisical appearence when it comes to attractiveness.. Nothing to do with the person or their abilities

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow

I think,just to be on the safe side,and to eradicate any doubts about racism with people's preferences.

We should just let admin choose who we have sex with whilst swinging.

Problem solved.

Ooooooooo I hope I get a bird with Big tits,fingers crossed.

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend

then theres the beard question . im not shaving it off to tick peoples boxes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think,just to be on the safe side,and to eradicate any doubts about racism with people's preferences.

We should just let admin choose who we have sex with whilst swinging.

Problem solved.

Ooooooooo I hope I get a bird with Big tits,fingers crossed.

"

Admin has randomly picked Big Mike......enjoy your meet.....ps moobs count!

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By *igSuki81Man  over a year ago

Retirement Village

Having read so many of these threads or variations of the same question all i can say is VeryFknBored.com

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Omg shocking thread at the end of the day that's your opinion but jeez we can't help who we are or aren't attracted to

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By *aucy3Couple  over a year ago

glasgow


"I think,just to be on the safe side,and to eradicate any doubts about racism with people's preferences.

We should just let admin choose who we have sex with whilst swinging.

Problem solved.

Ooooooooo I hope I get a bird with Big tits,fingers crossed.

Admin has randomly picked Big Mike......enjoy your meet.....ps moobs count! "

Do you think he'll wear stockings,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

bum holes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Only kind of?

Some good entertainment to be had on here, the usual crew.

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