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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

capello has stripped john terry of the england captaincy.right decision or wrong,lets discuss

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it is the right thing to do,JT is a role model to thousands of kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i think its correct to.kids these days look up to sports stars and on there overinflated wages they need to conduct themselves in an appropriet manner.i'm not sure its just the alleged affair thats cost him though the 10k he was getting for taking ppl on tours around chelsea football club demands answers.the guy is on 160k a wk just how much does he need to live on ffs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

right thing to do, not just role model but it would spilt the camp in to if he was still captain, and thats happened enough in the past coming up for world cups

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By *woBiTwoCouple over a year ago

north manchester

Sorry, I really don't think it's connected with his skill as a footballer... dozens of people have affairs, in all walks of life, and the lady he was seeing is Wayne Bridge's EX partner unless I've read it wrong? The injury is therefore to JT's missus, and surely that's THEIR business?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a role model and earning ridiculous sums of money and a public figure, we expect that they set a good standard of behaviour.

Or he can do what the rest of us do, keep our heads down and meet like minded people and get on with it, and give up his lavish lifestyle lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

but you cant have someone as your captain who is potentially going to split the dressing room. it doesnt affect any of us reading it in the papers, but half of the team could be team terry and half could be team bridge. thats not going to be good for the england team as a whole.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wrong, it's simply pandering to the press and the tattooed fuckwit red top readers who lap this sort of crap up.

If he has done something wrong then they should stop him playing for his country ever again, as thats not happening this is symbolic bullshit.

Nice to see the lady at the centre of this has now told the press to go fuck them selves, well done Vanessa.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but you cant have someone as your captain who is potentially going to split the dressing room. it doesnt affect any of us reading it in the papers, but half of the team could be team terry and half could be team bridge. thats not going to be good for the england team as a whole."

Well said that the main reason he had to go.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry, I really don't think it's connected with his skill as a footballer... dozens of people have affairs, in all walks of life, and the lady he was seeing is Wayne Bridge's EX partner unless I've read it wrong? The injury is therefore to JT's missus, and surely that's THEIR business?

I totally agree x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wrong, it's simply pandering to the press and the tattooed fuckwit red top readers who lap this sort of crap up.

If he has done something wrong then they should stop him playing for his country ever again, as thats not happening this is symbolic bullshit.

Nice to see the lady at the centre of this has now told the press to go fuck them selves, well done Vanessa."

That's what Max Clifford tells all his clients to say unless they go through him and ££££££££

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nice to see the lady at the centre of this has now told the press to go fuck them selves, well done Vanessa."

not before getting a nice pay day from the bank of john terry though no doubt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wrong decision...if the team are not mature enough to deal with a situation that arises everyday then they don't deserve their place on the team. They have a job to do...play football...therefore putting what is supposed to be their private life to one side for the 90 minutes or so they play...whether he was captain or not their will still be unrest on the team...leave in in the dressing room and get on wiv the game...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wrong decision...if the team are not mature enough to deal with a situation that arises everyday then they don't deserve their place on the team. They have a job to do...play football...therefore putting what is supposed to be their private life to one side for the 90 minutes or so they play...whether he was captain or not their will still be unrest on the team...leave in in the dressing room and get on wiv the game..."

its not as cut and dry as that though.

for example, if there was 2 people in your work and one of them slept with the other's wife or ex wife or whatever, it would split the place in 2. half siding with one and half siding with the other. its easy to say just put it to one side, but its not as easy to put into practice.

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

Capello has no doubt taken all things into consideration and made a decision. Who knows it might take some of the pressure off terry and he can get on with doing what he is paid for. Yep the lad did wrong and no doubts regrets his situation. But who here hasn’t looked at a pretty lady and though about it! Bloody hell we are swingers!

The press will report news what ever ad it’s a little childish for some to point the finger at certain papers as as far as I can tell all reported the goings on well discounting things like hair and hounds etc. I think the best thing all round is for things to quieten down so the bloke can sit down with his missis and sort things out one way or another.

As for England? Well it might be a mixed blessing as the guy who should have been captain in the first place will hopefully be getting the job.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

its not as cut and dry as that though.

I understand what your saying but its a risk they take everyday being in the public eye...they get paid a considerable amount of money to do what a lot of people dream about...but its been blown out of all proportion by the media as usual. Anyway the decision is made...only time will tell if its right or not! x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can understand it that its been done for the team but i dont think it was done for the press or public, cause now we have a guy who forgot to piss in a pot and got banned for it lol...they have all got mub on them in one form or another rooney with his granny fetish lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

if you can get the sack for shagging somebody other than your partner, theres going to be loads of jobs at the job centre

for the record, no, I dont think he should have lost his job for something that happened in his private life

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

"I can understand it that its been done for the team but i dont think it was done for the press or public, cause now we have a guy who forgot to piss in a pot and got banned for it lol...they have all got mub on them in one form or another rooney with his granny fetish lol "

Christ you couldn't pick either of those two! Rio has no leadership skills and Roony isn't exactly brain of Britain.

Got to be Gerrard as he is the only real choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if you can get the sack for shagging somebody other than your partner, theres going to be loads of jobs at the job centre

for the record, no, I dont think he should have lost his job for something that happened in his private life"

I think the problem is, it's not exactly his private life when it spills over into the team (England team), I believe Wayne Bridge refuses to play if Terry is in the squad, and I imagine there will be a few other team members not best pleased with Terry, certainly not wanting to look up to him as a captain when he has treated a team mate like that, so it's very possibly effected team spirit.

There are other good contenders in the England squad for the captains armband, and as a result of Terry's disloyalty to another team member then it's possibly the best action to take to pass it to another member.

The team is what's most important.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Christ you couldn't pick either of those two! Rio has no leadership skills and Roony isn't exactly brain of Britain.

Got to be Gerrard as he is the only real choice."

Not really my choice but i can understand why ppl would, is fitness is the only problem really.

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

Christ you couldn't pick either of those two! Rio has no leadership skills and Roony isn't exactly brain of Britain.

Got to be Gerrard as he is the only real choice.

Not really my choice but i can understand why ppl would, is fitness is the only problem really."

What he is more croc than Rio!

As for Roony, well i heard he was out playing golf early when Terry called round but Coleen looked after him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Christ you couldn't pick either of those two! Rio has no leadership skills and Roony isn't exactly brain of Britain.

Got to be Gerrard as he is the only real choice.

Not really my choice but i can understand why ppl would, is fitness is the only problem really.

What he is more croc than Rio!

As for Roony, well i heard he was out playing golf early when Terry called round but Coleen looked after him

I've never played golf.

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

Christ you couldn't pick either of those two! Rio has no leadership skills and Roony isn't exactly brain of Britain.

Got to be Gerrard as he is the only real choice.

Not really my choice but i can understand why ppl would, is fitness is the only problem really.

What he is more croc than Rio!

As for Roony, well i heard he was out playing golf early when Terry called round but Coleen looked after him

I've never played golf.

Trust you lol, mind i don't blame you as there is something unnatural about hitting your ball as hard as poss with a wooden stick

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well u have ur choice and i have mine lol

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

"Well u have ur choice and i have mine lol"
Hey if i had my choice it would be me! But im an old fek so i somehow don't see capello giving it me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

But I believe there has been a lot of unrest in the England camp, with many of the players not appreciating what Terry did to a fellow team mate, so it's no surprise to me that he lost it, if the team have little faith in him, he shouldn't be captain of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

I am surprised his wife has left him with the ability to still play my self!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

I am surprised his wife has left him with the ability to still play my self!"

Him playing pays the bills.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

Trouble is that logic is flawed, if he has lost the dressing room as captain, and is not well thought of by the other players the situation has simply been exacerbated now that he is a mere peon

If he has done wrong then he should be excluded from the England team in total, anything else is pure gesture politics

If he is not to be excluded then as the clear leader within the England player set up he should have been publicly censured but kept in post, this half way house situation is pure bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If Sven was still manager then Terry would have been dropped from the squad altogether.

he wouldnt want Terry "cramping his style"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

Trouble is that logic is flawed, if he has lost the dressing room as captain, and is not well thought of by the other players the situation has simply been exacerbated now that he is a mere peon

If he has done wrong then he should be excluded from the England team in total, anything else is pure gesture politics

If he is not to be excluded then as the clear leader within the England player set up he should have been publicly censured but kept in post, this half way house situation is pure bollocks."

By your own standards your talking bollocks then as banning him from England is only a half measure as the full measure would be to ban him from football. The next person could then say I am at half measure and ban him from the UK and so on.

The point is he has lost respect to lead or not. Its not about his playing abilities or skills. A captain LEADS his team. And if the team are not all behind him to follow then another leader is needed. Looks like flawed logic on flawed logic to me as the man can still clearly play football better than others challenging for his place but with lack confidence in his leadership skills by others then his ability to lead the team is not as good as other candidates.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

Trouble is that logic is flawed, if he has lost the dressing room as captain, and is not well thought of by the other players the situation has simply been exacerbated now that he is a mere peon

If he has done wrong then he should be excluded from the England team in total, anything else is pure gesture politics

If he is not to be excluded then as the clear leader within the England player set up he should have been publicly censured but kept in post, this half way house situation is pure bollocks."

England are hardly in a position to let quality players go.

Besides, if they dropped him completely then it could be considered that the manager is pandering to players demands.

A happy medium is sought it would appear.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have to say exactly how I looked at it!

Yes, I agree, the papers should have stayed out of it.

Trouble is that logic is flawed, if he has lost the dressing room as captain, and is not well thought of by the other players the situation has simply been exacerbated now that he is a mere peon

If he has done wrong then he should be excluded from the England team in total, anything else is pure gesture politics

If he is not to be excluded then as the clear leader within the England player set up he should have been publicly censured but kept in post, this half way house situation is pure bollocks.

England are hardly in a position to let quality players go.

Besides, if they dropped him completely then it could be considered that the manager is pandering to players demands.

A happy medium is sought it would appear."

Credentials, Celtic, Scotland, Man U England in that order

A happy medium for who though?

It certainly addresses the mindless public clamouring for a sacrifice but what has actually been achieved.

The best man for the job has just been sacked and considering the price of fish what the fuck has changed?

If he is still in the changing room and still divisive what the fuck has changed?

He is still going to be one of the first 3 names on the team sheet so what the fuck has changed?

My previous post proves just how daft some are as they have missed the whole thrust of it.

If John Terry has committed such a serious crime why the fuck is he still involved in football in any way shape or form?

He is still in the England team because he is a feckin outstanding player and the England management team along with the FA hope this sacking has satisfied the blood lust of the tattooed fuckwits.

If there is a serious and knowledgeable football supporter in the land who thinks that this close to the WC this is a great decision..................

For me tell Mr Bridge book your summer vacation as you are the disruptive influence and hope that JT and the boys produces the goods

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Try looking past the public, maybe he was demoted to keep the team happy, as I said, if he was to be booted completely then you would still say the same, that it's for the public, etc etc, it doesn't necessarily mean that is the case, as you said, he is a quality player, and so to stop him playing for England would be a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

What we do know is as usual, the press have blown it out of proportion, what we don't know for sure is the mood in the dressing room.

I also don't think Capello is weak enough to bow down to public opinion, I may be wrong, but that's my belief.

Terry needn't be hung for his 'crime', but a slap on the hand could do the trick, this could be that slap on the hand.

It's not always quite so black and white or right or wrong.

Personally I think he is the man for the job, though when Ferdinand is healthy he too is good, but Terry would be my first choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Quick and simple correct decisin to sack him, wrong decision to replace him with rio. Roonery or gerrard would be bteer.

All Footballers are role models to kids, what has he set. Shag you mates wife / Girl Friend and still get £170K per week.

They are paid too much monet for kicking a ball. I'd do it for £1,000.00 per wekk or even less

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By *ickedWWoman over a year ago

Chester

According to the papers, the young lady in question has worked her way round half the team already

Makes me wonder, the players that are making a fuss over things, have they not had a piece of the action

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Terry has been sacrificed on the alter of the Red Top readers and the press.

His demotion will not change the feeling in the dressing room in one feckin iota.

This decision will not alter the fact that John Terry is currently the best man for the Captaincy job.

In a very perverse way and in light of this decision I hope that come SA the English public and the English press sow what they have reaped

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

According to the papers, the young lady in question has worked her way round half the team already

Makes me wonder, the players that are making a fuss over things, have they not had a piece of the action

Lots of _umours about her by all accounts but i don't think she is quite so bad from what i have been told. Still they both know what they were doing so she can't complain. Also i heard an interesting fact and that's Mrs Terry isn't about to leave but at £7 1/2 mill a year fro on the field alone activities she may have reason to stop.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

very wrong ok he shagged someone so shouldnt be nothing to do with football

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

I totally agree x"

AND... This has been blown out of all proportion because people like to buy crappy comics at the weekend! The News of the Screws should be ashamed of itself for making this more than just an affair by a married man!

Don't get me wrong... He is a cheater and after that "other thread" I think it is clear what all sane people think of that (and some insane ones too). But this is not just about JT! It is about his family... All of them! And in this time of upheaval, don't they deserve some consideration in this?

They have loads to sort out and that mucky rag has made it all but impossible to think and react as any of us would. Their twins also have to put up with all this crap!

He is a scumbag, but so are those who sensationalise it and those that buy this shite should look at themselves, because it is their money perpetuating it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Agree it sensationalism at its very best, however its funny that the blame is being shifted equally to everyone else, even the people who pick up a newspaper from a stand on the way to work.

We only have half the facts, doubt its just the affair though, more chance of it being down to him charging people 4 grand a pop to use his FREE Wembley v.i.p box, as well as the other stuff that will be out in the open soon enough.

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By *amschwingerzCouple over a year ago

West

Lets be honest...he rumped the ex of a work colleague...big deal..that goes on up and down the country..

But...the fact that he is married..and might have been together when he was seeing her is dispicable..

I cant stand the guy anyway...he is an awful role model and controversy has followed him for years...squeaky clean he aint!

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

"Agree it sensationalism at its very best, however its funny that the blame is being shifted equally to everyone else, even the people who pick up a newspaper from a stand on the way to work.

Only JT and the female are to blame for the affair, but people "just picking up a newspaper" are to blame for the culture that allows papers to carry this on! It is those people who read muck like the news of the screws who are paying the paper to dig the dirt for them!

No thought is given to the aggrieved party, in this case the wife and children. They are pursued whilst on holiday and pictures of the wife in a bikini are splashed all over the front pages. FFS... She is innocent in this case!!!

I don't buy newspapers because of their attitude towards celebrity and those less fortunate!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its a shame when your private life cant be just that, your private life!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If it screws up his mind when playing for Chelsea and that leads to them losing and handing the title to Man Uts - then I'm all for Terry being stripped of whatever to make that happen. Couldn't really give a toss who he's banging tbh, the woman he fucked (who fucked half of the Chelsea team by all accounts), nor his wife, who must be a bit of a dope to not know what her husband-with-previous is up to. As for Bridge, well he's a City player now so I hope his fookin legs fall off!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think wot JT has done will happen time and time again be it from superstar footballers to everyday joes like us!

so to answer the question "NO" i dnt think its fair wot happens off the pitch should have an affect on his working life!! Thats like saying if anyone of us had an affair then we should lose our jobs or be demoted! Certainly uncalled for!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

go john terry. so if your company found out you were a swinger you should lose your job? its the same situation. its a private situation and has nothing to do with work at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He played brilliant today

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"go john terry. so if your company found out you were a swinger you should lose your job? its the same situation. its a private situation and has nothing to do with work at all."

Not quite true.

If you was a supervisor and having an affair with a colleagues recent ex partner with whom the colleague has children with, now that's a little closer than if work found out you swung.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think wot JT has done will happen time and time again be it from superstar footballers to everyday joes like us!

Again, this involves another team mate, I'm not sure this is entirely about him being married, as much about pooping on a team mate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Big thanks To John Terry.

We now have a guy who cannot remember to attend important drugs tests (not too bright then.) Or a druggie who avoids tests (super role model) as England captain. What a disaster all round.

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

Again, this involves another team mate, I'm not sure this is entirely about him being married, as much about pooping on a team mate. "

As I understand it, the woman in question was the EX girlfriend of the other player, so only the wife was "pooped on"

If I tried to sack someone because they had an affair, even with someone at work, I would get slaughtered!

We were outed at Mrs R's place of work. Everyone knew we were swingers and it was a hard time... But... They supported us through it all and said it was none of anyone elses business as long as our jobs were not affected.

That is the situation now we have our sexual discrimination laws, thank god!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Again, this involves another team mate, I'm not sure this is entirely about him being married, as much about pooping on a team mate.

As I understand it, the woman in question was the EX girlfriend of the other player, so only the wife was "pooped on"

If I tried to sack someone because they had an affair, even with someone at work, I would get slaughtered!

That is the situation now we have our sexual discrimination laws, thank god!"

Yes, it is his ex, but one he has only recently separated from, and one he has children with, this may have caused a problem with other team mates, as mates don't do that in the eyes of many, I certainly wouldn't.

He was demoted not sacked, and again, this is possibly because the team have a lack of trust in him.

Swinging is not the same as what happened here.

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