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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'm curious to see how many people on the forum are religious or have a belief of a higher power.
I personally don't believe in God or Jesus etc, I think religion was and still is a good tool for war. I believe we aren't alone in the universe, and at some point in time we will been visited by another life form of some description, if we haven't already.
Please share your thoughts and ideas! |
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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago
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I am not religious and am too open minded to say with absolute certainty that there is no god. I am open to the possibility that there might be. Or at least something higher than us that we can't explain.
I do not, however, believe in religion. I think it breeds intolerance, segregation and hatred. Three things I completely and utterly deplore. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nope - then there's the old chestnut ... if god is allpowerfull and all knowing, who or what created god? Doesn't stand up to too much scrutiny really... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I believe that religion teaches people guidelines on how to be a good respectable person. It's a select few that take it to extremes.
Myself, I'm not a religious person and put my faith in science. |
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"I believe that religion teaches people guidelines on how to be a good respectable person. It's a select few that take it to extremes.
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agree in general but so do many parents who don't follow a religion or rely on the teachings of what or whomever to give them the guidelines and a moral compass..
too many times in history some of those within religions have acted in the worst possible way to those who help to keep them in a life of luxury in comparison..
power corrupts, and no one is immune to that possibility whatever their position.. |
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I'm not religious but I should be. I've had three life threatening incidents that I've survived "God" knows how! Things should have gone tits up in other areas and I've come out smelling of roses.
Deep personal loss has made me stronger and I'm still a glass half full kinda gal.
Sings: *we shall over cu-ah-hum*  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We all believe in something I think science is just a belief the same as religion. I have never seen atoms, yet I believe they exist because that is what I have been told. Science and religion are not too different. Both explain the unexplainable but in different ways. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that religion teaches people guidelines on how to be a good respectable person. It's a select few that take it to extremes.
agree in general but so do many parents who don't follow a religion or rely on the teachings of what or whomever to give them the guidelines and a moral compass..
too many times in history some of those within religions have acted in the worst possible way to those who help to keep them in a life of luxury in comparison..
power corrupts, and no one is immune to that possibility whatever their position.."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To me religion is just a way of telling you that you have to live your life a certain way and is the main cause for wars. If it was up to me it would be banned. As for if I believe in a higher power them i not so sure as yes there is a lot of things that have happened in the past or even happen a few days ago that your average person witnesses that's unexplainable. However I also believe that if God existed and created everything in this world/universe. Why is there so much suffering going on  .
I am not sure if this is the same , but spiritualists can achieve a lot of things just through the power of thought that no one thought that was humanly possible. So maybe there is something in it . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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More people are butchered, tortured and just slaughtered in the name of religion(s), than any other cause.
There can be no higher power, we are it and what an awfull mess we made so far.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"More people are butchered, tortured and just slaughtered in the name of religion(s), than any other cause.
There can be no higher power, we are it and what an awfull mess we made so far.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I cant help but chuckle at those that claim religion is the cause of much evil and wars etc.
As always its man's interpretation of it or his use of it is the problem.
Look at most religions and you will see the core basics revolve around respect, kindness,giving and caring.
Not exactly a great manifest for an evil dictator !
Like already has been commented.....some get corrupted by power, but like it or not it forms our history and is how we as a race evolved.
Christianity has diminished in the UK. I don't see it being any better as a result ? In fact were a very self centred bunch these days I think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am not a religious person but the following is true event that happened to me.
Was in car crash few year ago and apparently died what i remember vividly was what folk say is seeing a light. In my case i was in hospital being worked on and saw surrounding me my mum dad and both grandoarents alk of whom died yrs ago. As my mum came closer she said you are not ready yet kissed me on cheek next thing i knew i woke up with my kids surrounding my bed.
Now whether this was dream i cannot say but it was real at time and over yrs there are other stories of similar things and cannot believe its coincidence.
Anyway thats my tale. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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a lot of people i have known who had religious parents have got hang ups, they think sex is dirty, and you shouldnt have sex outside marriage.
they are ashamed of their own bodies.
then you get a few who rebel and have sex with anyone and everyone.
some people believe what they want to believe, or are just impresionable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that people should believe whatever they want to - if it works for them
The universe is a powerful force in itself isn't it ?? "
I agree, people should be free to believe in what they like and not be persecuted for those beliefs.
Personally though, I feel that organised religion is nothing more than a method if controlling a population, using their weaknesses and beliefs to the advantage of a few rich/powerful individuals to garner wealth and wage war.
More harm than good has come from organised religion |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I believe that people should believe whatever they want to - if it works for them
The universe is a powerful force in itself isn't it ??
I agree, people should be free to believe in what they like and not be persecuted for those beliefs.
Personally though, I feel that organised religion is nothing more than a method if controlling a population, using their weaknesses and beliefs to the advantage of a few rich/powerful individuals to garner wealth and wage war.
More harm than good has come from organised religion"
There are so many that use ' religion' for their own ends - everyone knows this , and they prey on impressionable people etc
What do you consider ' organised religions' Im merely curious |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"We all believe in something I think science is just a belief the same as religion. I have never seen atoms, yet I believe they exist because that is what I have been told. Science and religion are not too different. Both explain the unexplainable but in different ways. "
No. There is one fundamental difference between science and religion. That is that science uses evidence-based research to ascertain the *most likely* explanation for natural phenomina. When enough evidence points to the probable cause of a phenomenon, it is known as a theorem. These are open to challenge and can, of course be disproved - in fact it is rigourous scientific process to try and disprove a theorem in any way that occurs to you, if you can't, then it is accepted.
The whole point of 'faith' is that you have, at some stage to negate evidence and make a 'leap' thereof. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am not religious, don't believe in any religion.
For the millions of people who do believe, I respect their beliefs but what pisses me off lots, is the fact they don't respect mine...
Can't stand preachers either...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that people should believe whatever they want to - if it works for them
The universe is a powerful force in itself isn't it ??
I agree, people should be free to believe in what they like and not be persecuted for those beliefs.
Personally though, I feel that organised religion is nothing more than a method if controlling a population, using their weaknesses and beliefs to the advantage of a few rich/powerful individuals to garner wealth and wage war.
More harm than good has come from organised religion
There are so many that use ' religion' for their own ends - everyone knows this , and they prey on impressionable people etc
What do you consider ' organised religions' Im merely curious "
I consider any religious group that has a leader or hierarchy as organised. Individuals should be free to interpret their faith how they see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to others. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"I'm not religious but I should be. I've had three life threatening incidents that I've survived "God" knows how! Things should have gone tits up in other areas and I've come out smelling of roses.
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You don't feel 'surviving' these life threatening incidents might be more down to the doctors than some non existent sky fairy?
Ask yourself. If a fourth incident arose and you had to choose between a doctor and a deity - which would you pick? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that people should believe whatever they want to - if it works for them
The universe is a powerful force in itself isn't it ??
I agree, people should be free to believe in what they like and not be persecuted for those beliefs.
Personally though, I feel that organised religion is nothing more than a method if controlling a population, using their weaknesses and beliefs to the advantage of a few rich/powerful individuals to garner wealth and wage war.
More harm than good has come from organised religion
There are so many that use ' religion' for their own ends - everyone knows this , and they prey on impressionable people etc
What do you consider ' organised religions' Im merely curious
I consider any religious group that has a leader or hierarchy as organised. Individuals should be free to interpret their faith how they see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to others."
I agree ... but what religions. Anyone ?? Do you mean Scientology ??? that kind of thing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe that people should believe whatever they want to - if it works for them
The universe is a powerful force in itself isn't it ??
I agree, people should be free to believe in what they like and not be persecuted for those beliefs.
Personally though, I feel that organised religion is nothing more than a method if controlling a population, using their weaknesses and beliefs to the advantage of a few rich/powerful individuals to garner wealth and wage war.
More harm than good has come from organised religion
There are so many that use ' religion' for their own ends - everyone knows this , and they prey on impressionable people etc
What do you consider ' organised religions' Im merely curious
I consider any religious group that has a leader or hierarchy as organised. Individuals should be free to interpret their faith how they see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to others.
I agree ... but what religions. Anyone ?? Do you mean Scientology ??? that kind of thing "
All of them in my case.
What they all seem to miss is that, if you're a decent person what you choose to believe shouldn't matter. There is no right or wrong belief, just your actions towards others... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We all believe in something I think science is just a belief the same as religion. I have never seen atoms, yet I believe they exist because that is what I have been told. Science and religion are not too different. Both explain the unexplainable but in different ways.
No. There is one fundamental difference between science and religion. That is that science uses evidence-based research to ascertain the *most likely* explanation for natural phenomina. When enough evidence points to the probable cause of a phenomenon, it is known as a theorem. These are open to challenge and can, of course be disproved - in fact it is rigourous scientific process to try and disprove a theorem in any way that occurs to you, if you can't, then it is accepted.
The whole point of 'faith' is that you have, at some stage to negate evidence and make a 'leap' thereof. "
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By *uper_gMan
over a year ago
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Right tell me if this seems silly but I believe these books you called bible, Quran and so on were tales / stories told thousands of years ago and were told by trusted people / family members who at the time believed they were real and had no proof they couldn't of been. Then got put to paper at some point and handed around, so the story spread and become a world wide belief!
Tried to make it short, I have this convo all the time. I am a non believer in anything!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t follow a religion but I envy those individuals who take comfort from putting trust in faith of any sort when it’s applied with peaceful tolerance and respect towards all other beliefs systems….
As for whether I believe in a high force,,? ….. I guess I do, but I can’t explain what it is, or what level it controls events in the living plain….!.
Perhaps the higher force is simply that area of our own consciousness which influences personal morality…
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We both believe in God because we have chosen to. We've neither of us been forced into believing; rather we have faith because we have had experiences that bolster and strengthen that belief.
It's a personal choice but will not get in the way of our having erotic times when we feel like it.  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"We both believe in God because we have chosen to. We've neither of us been forced into believing; rather we have faith because we have had experiences that bolster and strengthen that belief.
It's a personal choice but will not get in the way of our having erotic times when we feel like it. "
Do those with whom you share your religious experiences (if indeed you do), approve of your erotic times - or do you just not bother to tell them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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One of the reoccurring problems when having non-believers question those who do believe, is that inexplicable need for non-believer to identify a benchmark of devotion where the non-believer can then rest a theological argument hoping to contradict the behaviour of followers and the teaching of their faith ..
To me there is no value dissecting someone’s faith simply by analysing a follower’s behaviour against certain outdated principles created many hundreds of years ago…
To me any level of individual belief or faith is a personal choice that doesn't need to reach reflect a mandatory standard as long as it's done with tolerance and respect to all other belief systems. |
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"We both believe in God because we have chosen to. We've neither of us been forced into believing; rather we have faith because we have had experiences that bolster and strengthen that belief.
It's a personal choice but will not get in the way of our having erotic times when we feel like it.
Do those with whom you share your religious experiences (if indeed you do), approve of your erotic times - or do you just not bother to tell them?"
A reasonable question.
They do not share our erotic pleasures as we won't tell them. We do not find ourselves so 'religiously' adhering to the tenents of our faith as others.
I believe in God whole-heartidly but i do not feel quite the same way to the institution that is the church/religion.
Hopefully that answers you're question |
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"I'm not religious but I should be. I've had three life threatening incidents that I've survived "God" knows how! Things should have gone tits up in other areas and I've come out smelling of roses.
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You don't feel 'surviving' these life threatening incidents might be more down to the doctors than some non existent sky fairy?
Ask yourself. If a fourth incident arose and you had to choose between a doctor and a deity - which would you pick?"
Timing was the key in all. If a series of events hadn't happened the only doctor looking at my body would have been a pathologist.
Happened three times, something is looking out for me. I'm not religious would hardly be here looking to meet men and shove things up their arses if I were, but... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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".........
Timing was the key in all. If a series of events hadn't happened the only doctor looking at my body would have been a pathologist."
Pathologists are just ordinary doctors who have no bedside manners.
"Happened three times, something is looking out for me. ............."
That fact it happened 3 times suggests something wasn't looking out for you at all. |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
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"... I think religion was and still is a good tool for war..."
Definately agree with this!!
It's nice to see you've worded it this way too. A lot of the time i've read posts/comments om various forums/sites saying
"religion is the cause of all wars"
where as i personally believe religion is used as an excuse for war and has nowt to do with the true cause people go to war for. |
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I'm not religious in the slightest and in the most part think that if people wish to have faith and practice religion as mr who said further up the thread as long as its not affecting others then that's fine by me. Just don't try forcing it on me coz I don't wanna know. And definitely don't come knocking on my door at 8am on a Saturday coz you might not like the greeting!! Haha x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I believe in something untenable and elusive but nontheless powerful and effective; some may find it convenient to describe it as The Force.
Jedi "
Or a single Bi woman! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not religious in the slightest and in the most part think that if people wish to have faith and practice religion as mr who said further up the thread as long as its not affecting others then that's fine by me. Just don't try forcing it on me coz I don't wanna know. And definitely don't come knocking on my door at 8am on a Saturday coz you might not like the greeting!! Haha x"
Bed hair and dressing gown ? |
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"I'm not religious in the slightest and in the most part think that if people wish to have faith and practice religion as mr who said further up the thread as long as its not affecting others then that's fine by me. Just don't try forcing it on me coz I don't wanna know. And definitely don't come knocking on my door at 8am on a Saturday coz you might not like the greeting!! Haha x
Bed hair and dressing gown ? "
That and a polite 'fuck off'  if I wanted to be enrolled by the god squad id go find them. Don't need em coming after me x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Christianity has diminished in the UK. I don't see it being any better as a result ? In fact were a very self centred bunch these days I think. "
What twaddle...
I think heretics burned at the stake purely for having a different view to the established church would have disagreed with your view, given a chance...
And the amount of wealth accumulated by - especially - the Catholic church would suggest to me a high degree of self-centeredness I would suggest. |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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I don't believe in god,I think to often people interpret religious text to suit their own ends.and due to this misinterpretation,I believe it has been the single greatest cause of death and suffering throughout the ages.
Having said that,I know to many people to whom it brings great comfort,and hope,to disrespect religions basic principles.
Live and let live. |
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I'd have thought it highly unlikely that you'd find anyone on this site who truly considered themselves religious.
Reason is I'm confident all the major recognised faiths don't condone fornication  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Christianity has diminished in the UK. I don't see it being any better as a result ? In fact were a very self centred bunch these days I think.
What twaddle...
I think heretics burned at the stake purely for having a different view to the established church would have disagreed with your view, given a chance...
And the amount of wealth accumulated by - especially - the Catholic church would suggest to me a high degree of self-centeredness I would suggest."
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Canterbury is understood to be "furious" after the Church of England confirmed it invests indirectly in online lender Wonga.
It comes after the Justin Welby told Wonga boss Errol Damelin the Church would try to force the firm out of business by boosting credit unions.
But the Church later said it invested in funds that provide money for Wonga. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd have thought it highly unlikely that you'd find anyone on this site who truly considered themselves religious.
Reason is I'm confident all the major recognised faiths don't condone fornication "
There are plenty of religious people who choose to practise their faith in ways that suit them. Whatever your views it isn't anyone's place to judge who may consider themselves religious. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"I'm not religious but I should be. I've had three life threatening incidents that I've survived "God" knows how! Things should have gone tits up in other areas and I've come out smelling of roses.
...............
You don't feel 'surviving' these life threatening incidents might be more down to the doctors than some non existent sky fairy?
Ask yourself. If a fourth incident arose and you had to choose between a doctor and a deity - which would you pick?
Timing was the key in all. If a series of events hadn't happened the only doctor looking at my body would have been a pathologist.
Happened three times, something is looking out for me. I'm not religious would hardly be here looking to meet men and shove things up their arses if I were, but... "
Conversley - I have nearly died twice now, but if anything it has made me even less spiritual/religous. |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria |
Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I repeat anything others have already posted...bit of an agnostic here ( this fence is damn comfy to sit on ), would like to think there's a higher power, but humans killing and maiming others in the name of that higher power repulses me. Also a bit envious of those that do have faith in God, Allah, Buddha, Chuck Norris, Norris off of Corrie, etc as they often have a serenity when bad things happen as they believe God, Allah, Buddha, Chuck Norris, Norris off of Corrie, etc have put these trials to them for a reason and possibly they'll get their reward in heaven which helps them to cope in difficult situations |
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By *xpresMan
over a year ago
Elland |
Its all a crock...
Religion is like a security blanket that people cling to in their last days...
Anyone who pins their hopes to a book wrote over 2000 years ago well you are in dire need of a slap.. |
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