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"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London in protest against Shell's continuing plans to drill for oil in the Arctic. Been at it since 4am this morning. That's balls!!! " Sure is; though nobody even looked up when I climbed the Birmingham Post Office tower years ago, fortunately their was a phone at the top with a very outside dialling tone so after making a couple of long distance calls to my mates I was able to phone the Bill and ask them to arrange for the door at the top to be unlocked to let me in | |||
"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London in protest against Shell's continuing plans to drill for oil in the Arctic. Been at it since 4am this morning. That's balls!!! Sure is; though nobody even looked up when I climbed the Birmingham Post Office tower years ago, fortunately their was a phone at the top with a very outside dialling tone so after making a couple of long distance calls to my mates I was able to phone the Bill and ask them to arrange for the door at the top to be unlocked to let me in " hahaha wow ! can i ask wot made yi wana do it ? dont think id have the nads myself. would have loved to hear that call | |||
"good luck to them, they been climbing for 9 hours and are only halfway! x" | |||
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"Selfish isn't a word I would have chosen - selfless maybe " I choose selfish because the protester had been repeatedly warned his behaviour was putting our guys in danger and that we had no choice but to try and remove him for his own safety..... 56,000 tons of steel moving with the tide wont stop because someone wants to tie themself to the anchor chain holding a save the whale banner.... | |||
"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London in protest against Shell's continuing plans to drill for oil in the Arctic. Been at it since 4am this morning. That's balls!!! Sure is; though nobody even looked up when I climbed the Birmingham Post Office tower years ago, fortunately their was a phone at the top with a very outside dialling tone so after making a couple of long distance calls to my mates I was able to phone the Bill and ask them to arrange for the door at the top to be unlocked to let me in hahaha wow ! can i ask wot made yi wana do it ? dont think id have the nads myself. would have loved to hear that call " it was the early days of the 'buildering' fad, I think it came from the Steve McQueen line in the Towering Inferno, so long as you architect guys go on building them ever higher some poor old smuck is going to have to climb them....mispent youth Tall | |||
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"I’ve seen a Greenpeace publicity stunt go badly wrong, ending up with one of my crewmates being seriously hurt trying to prevent a reckless protester from attaching himself to a moving anchor chain that if he’d been allowed too would have cost him his life within seconds. It ok fighting for a cause but sometimes people can be very selfish while trying to make their protest heard… " But making your voice heard is very difficult. Most demonstrations only make the news if there is trouble and then inevitably the point of the protest is lost. This message is very much getting heard. | |||
"I don't agree with everything that Greenpeace do - but putting your own life on the line for your beliefs, whether right or wrong is pretty damn brave - not selfish. !!" I agree in situations where their actions present no threat to the safety of others,,,, But in our situation he wasn't just putting his own life on the line, he was knowingly involving other people who he knew had no choice but to try and stop him from being killed by his own reckless behaviour,,, But he choose to ignore the danger he was putting our guys in, so that was selfish..... | |||
"I’ve seen a Greenpeace publicity stunt go badly wrong, ending up with one of my crewmates being seriously hurt trying to prevent a reckless protester from attaching himself to a moving anchor chain that if he’d been allowed too would have cost him his life within seconds. It ok fighting for a cause but sometimes people can be very selfish while trying to make their protest heard… But making your voice heard is very difficult. Most demonstrations only make the news if there is trouble and then inevitably the point of the protest is lost. This message is very much getting heard." Yes this is being heard,,,,, But where's the greenpeace voice shouting about our man who was hurt…… Wheres their protest about the life-changes him and his family have to deal with now on a daily basis all because one of their activist wanted to defy the warning they were repeatedly given trying to prevent a dangerous situation from escalating out of control ….!. I do support the message behind greenpeace...... but I find myself questioning some of the methods they employ trying to put that message across..... | |||
"I don't agree with everything that Greenpeace do - but putting your own life on the line for your beliefs, whether right or wrong is pretty damn brave - not selfish. !! I agree in situations where their actions present no threat to the safety of others,,,, But in our situation he wasn't just putting his own life on the line, he was knowingly involving other people who he knew had no choice but to try and stop him from being killed by his own reckless behaviour,,, But he choose to ignore the danger he was putting our guys in, so that was selfish..... " Whilst I admire the things these people do, surely to risk your life for an incorrectly held belief isn't brave it's stupidity And to risk others lives in the process is negligence possibly criminal. Whale Wars involving members of sea shepherd makes me laugh, whilst totally agreeing with what they are trying to achieve, it's always the captain and the mate who have the bright ideas to send people on highly dangerous 'missions' whilst staying on the warm comfy main ship. They almost lost two ribs with 3 or 4 crew on each to hypothermia in the artic a few years ago. | |||
"I don't agree with everything that Greenpeace do - but putting your own life on the line for your beliefs, whether right or wrong is pretty damn brave - not selfish. !! I agree in situations where their actions present no threat to the safety of others,,,, But in our situation he wasn't just putting his own life on the line, he was knowingly involving other people who he knew had no choice but to try and stop him from being killed by his own reckless behaviour,,, But he choose to ignore the danger he was putting our guys in, so that was selfish..... Whilst I admire the things these people do, surely to risk your life for an incorrectly held belief isn't brave it's stupidity And to risk others lives in the process is negligence possibly criminal. Whale Wars involving members of sea shepherd makes me laugh, whilst totally agreeing with what they are trying to achieve, it's always the captain and the mate who have the bright ideas to send people on highly dangerous 'missions' whilst staying on the warm comfy main ship. They almost lost two ribs with 3 or 4 crew on each to hypothermia in the artic a few years ago. " I guess it's all debatable whether their beliefs are correct or incorrect. About a month or so ago, a Greenpeace ship was getting in-between a couple of Japanese whalers & their tanker/supply ship in the Southern Ocean, dodging the odd iceberg as they did so. Yes, they put both their own & the whaling crew's lives in jeopardy - but how else could they possibly have stalled them? Alot of these guys are working voluntarily!!! Braver than I. | |||
"I don't agree with everything that Greenpeace do - but putting your own life on the line for your beliefs, whether right or wrong is pretty damn brave - not selfish. !! I agree in situations where their actions present no threat to the safety of others,,,, But in our situation he wasn't just putting his own life on the line, he was knowingly involving other people who he knew had no choice but to try and stop him from being killed by his own reckless behaviour,,, But he choose to ignore the danger he was putting our guys in, so that was selfish..... Whilst I admire the things these people do, surely to risk your life for an incorrectly held belief isn't brave it's stupidity And to risk others lives in the process is negligence possibly criminal. Whale Wars involving members of sea shepherd makes me laugh, whilst totally agreeing with what they are trying to achieve, it's always the captain and the mate who have the bright ideas to send people on highly dangerous 'missions' whilst staying on the warm comfy main ship. They almost lost two ribs with 3 or 4 crew on each to hypothermia in the artic a few years ago. I guess it's all debatable whether their beliefs are correct or incorrect. About a month or so ago, a Greenpeace ship was getting in-between a couple of Japanese whalers & their tanker/supply ship in the Southern Ocean, dodging the odd iceberg as they did so. Yes, they put both their own & the whaling crew's lives in jeopardy - but how else could they possibly have stalled them? Alot of these guys are working voluntarily!!! Braver than I." Yes that is the dilemma…… I’m 100% behind them raising awareness for the cause,,,, but their actions can become totally dismissive of anyone rights, views or opinion to disagree ,,,,, In choosing to endanger themselves whilst simultaneously inflicting danger on others,, it’s almost like a form of terrorist martyrdom whereby risking a few innocent deaths is an acceptable price to pay to help catapult their protest into headline making news…… Their cause is a noble cause,,,,,, but their methods often dilute the merits of the venture and as mentioned earlier in this thread, it is often the foot troops at the sharpe end doing the bidding of General's in Chief who are safely tucked away from the action where the repercussions of things going wrong can’t harm them physically or legally… I don't know if the answer is in the hands of Greenpeace...... but I do feel they are right to ask the questions... | |||
"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London in protest against Shell's continuing plans to drill for oil in the Arctic. Been at it since 4am this morning. That's balls!!! Sure is; though nobody even looked up when I climbed the Birmingham Post Office tower years ago, fortunately their was a phone at the top with a very outside dialling tone so after making a couple of long distance calls to my mates I was able to phone the Bill and ask them to arrange for the door at the top to be unlocked to let me in hahaha wow ! can i ask wot made yi wana do it ? dont think id have the nads myself. would have loved to hear that call it was the early days of the 'buildering' fad, I think it came from the Steve McQueen line in the Towering Inferno, so long as you architect guys go on building them ever higher some poor old smuck is going to have to climb them....mispent youth Tall " yi must have been some boy in ya youth lol nd a very good climber. great tale for your gran kids too.lol | |||
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"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London in protest against Shell's continuing plans to drill for oil in the Arctic. Been at it since 4am this morning. That's balls!!! Sure is; though nobody even looked up when I climbed the Birmingham Post Office tower years ago, fortunately their was a phone at the top with a very outside dialling tone so after making a couple of long distance calls to my mates I was able to phone the Bill and ask them to arrange for the door at the top to be unlocked to let me in hahaha wow ! can i ask wot made yi wana do it ? dont think id have the nads myself. would have loved to hear that call it was the early days of the 'buildering' fad, I think it came from the Steve McQueen line in the Towering Inferno, so long as you architect guys go on building them ever higher some poor old smuck is going to have to climb them....mispent youth Tall yi must have been some boy in ya youth lol nd a very good climber. great tale for your gran kids too.lol " We did Nelsons Coloumn before they covered the plaque at the bottom in anti climb paint and removed the lightening conductor to hi light Nelson Mandala's plight - got into a shit load of trouble for that, also the Alpha tower in front of Central TV in brum; at the time offices occupied by many central government departments, they didn't look at that too kindly either, You know its a tough climb when Le Spider is the first person to atttempt the ascent, so I suspect that the esthetically pleasing architecture of the Shard makes itself a relatively straight forward climb - donno though must see if someone will take me to the foot of it so that I can get a feel lol | |||
"I don't agree with everything that Greenpeace do - but putting your own life on the line for your beliefs, whether right or wrong is pretty damn brave - not selfish. !! I agree in situations where their actions present no threat to the safety of others,,,, But in our situation he wasn't just putting his own life on the line, he was knowingly involving other people who he knew had no choice but to try and stop him from being killed by his own reckless behaviour,,, But he choose to ignore the danger he was putting our guys in, so that was selfish..... Whilst I admire the things these people do, surely to risk your life for an incorrectly held belief isn't brave it's stupidity And to risk others lives in the process is negligence possibly criminal. Whale Wars involving members of sea shepherd makes me laugh, whilst totally agreeing with what they are trying to achieve, it's always the captain and the mate who have the bright ideas to send people on highly dangerous 'missions' whilst staying on the warm comfy main ship. They almost lost two ribs with 3 or 4 crew on each to hypothermia in the artic a few years ago. I guess it's all debatable whether their beliefs are correct or incorrect. About a month or so ago, a Greenpeace ship was getting in-between a couple of Japanese whalers & their tanker/supply ship in the Southern Ocean, dodging the odd iceberg as they did so. Yes, they put both their own & the whaling crew's lives in jeopardy - but how else could they possibly have stalled them? Alot of these guys are working voluntarily!!! Braver than I. Yes that is the dilemma…… I’m 100% behind them raising awareness for the cause,,,, but their actions can become totally dismissive of anyone rights, views or opinion to disagree ,,,,, In choosing to endanger themselves whilst simultaneously inflicting danger on others,, it’s almost like a form of terrorist martyrdom whereby risking a few innocent deaths is an acceptable price to pay to help catapult their protest into headline making news…… Their cause is a noble cause,,,,,, but their methods often dilute the merits of the venture and as mentioned earlier in this thread, it is often the foot troops at the sharpe end doing the bidding of General's in Chief who are safely tucked away from the action where the repercussions of things going wrong can’t harm them physically or legally… I don't know if the answer is in the hands of Greenpeace...... but I do feel they are right to ask the questions... " Collateral damage the military call it, I believe. | |||
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"Was mostly surprised to hear it was a Greenpeace campaign - thought they'd long withered away!" Not all the time there are riches to be collected from the masses that donate to them.... | |||
"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London in protest against Shell's continuing plans to drill for oil in the Arctic. Been at it since 4am this morning. That's balls!!! Sure is; though nobody even looked up when I climbed the Birmingham Post Office tower years ago, fortunately their was a phone at the top with a very outside dialling tone so after making a couple of long distance calls to my mates I was able to phone the Bill and ask them to arrange for the door at the top to be unlocked to let me in hahaha wow ! can i ask wot made yi wana do it ? dont think id have the nads myself. would have loved to hear that call it was the early days of the 'buildering' fad, I think it came from the Steve McQueen line in the Towering Inferno, so long as you architect guys go on building them ever higher some poor old smuck is going to have to climb them....mispent youth Tall yi must have been some boy in ya youth lol nd a very good climber. great tale for your gran kids too.lol We did Nelsons Coloumn before they covered the plaque at the bottom in anti climb paint and removed the lightening conductor to hi light Nelson Mandala's plight - got into a shit load of trouble for that, also the Alpha tower in front of Central TV in brum; at the time offices occupied by many central government departments, they didn't look at that too kindly either, You know its a tough climb when Le Spider is the first person to atttempt the ascent, so I suspect that the esthetically pleasing architecture of the Shard makes itself a relatively straight forward climb - donno though must see if someone will take me to the foot of it so that I can get a feel lol " great cause to, good on you n your mates not many ppl would put there life on the line for there believes,glad yi lived to tell the tale,RESPECT cheers for sharing your story. stevie | |||
"Oh wow! 6 Greenpeace girls are climbing The Shard in London....they used the facilities access gantry to get up it - The owners of the Shard will have to re-think their window cleaning process; they'll probably want that gantry removed to prevent future ascents. It is also now public the world over that there is access for people wanting to attempt suicide, not the kind of publicity that world famous buildings like to attract. " | |||