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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Better not suggest that to my FB!  
I am hoping your FB is not a 4 legged furry animal that pesters domestic animals, likes to rummage in bins and has the most horrific smelling shit!"
No - she's just called Fox! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"no i love foxes
I love tigers but a heavily populated area is not the best place for them."
there are too many people what do you suggest we do about them? foxes are beautiful creatures unlike a lot of people too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"no i love foxes
I love tigers but a heavily populated area is not the best place for them.
there are too many people what do you suggest we do about them? foxes are beautiful creatures unlike a lot of people too. "
There are a lot that are under nourished, carrying disease, a danger to humans and considered by many as vermin. I have no problem with them in their appropriate environment. |
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That's coz your a city dweller ! If you travel a few miles to your left there is the countryside, try it, you might learn something...
Milk comes from cows NOT tescos
Eggs do come out of chickens , raw. Not poached or scrambled,
The urban fox is only urban coz stupid bloody twats keep expanding the cities into their territory . |
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I'm waiting for them to evolve into something much larger and take their place at the top of the food chain, that or at the very least have the ability to put stuff back in the bin bags after they've ripped them open |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"That's coz your a city dweller ! If you travel a few miles to your left there is the countryside, try it, you might learn something...
Milk comes from cows NOT tescos
Eggs do come out of chickens , raw. Not poached or scrambled,
The urban fox is only urban coz stupid bloody twats keep expanding the cities into their territory . "
My area hasn't been countryside for over 200 years. |
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"That's coz your a city dweller ! If you travel a few miles to your left there is the countryside, try it, you might learn something...
Milk comes from cows NOT tescos
Eggs do come out of chickens , raw. Not poached or scrambled,
The urban fox is only urban coz stupid bloody twats keep expanding the cities into their territory . "
maybe with a little encouragement they could become urbane foxes  |
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"That's coz your a city dweller ! If you travel a few miles to your left there is the countryside, try it, you might learn something...
Milk comes from cows NOT tescos
Eggs do come out of chickens , raw. Not poached or scrambled,
The urban fox is only urban coz stupid bloody twats keep expanding the cities into their territory . "
so we should do what to house an expanding population..?
cull the stupid bloody twats perhaps..?
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Leave em alone , same with the urban deers, Here's an idea, see if everyone cleaned up at there arses instead o dumping stuff everywhere then the animals would naturally move back to there natural hunting grounds  |
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"Leave em alone , same with the urban deers, Here's an idea, see if everyone cleaned up at there arses instead o dumping stuff everywhere then the animals would naturally move back to there natural hunting grounds "
Yep, back to the farms where they can carry on killing chickens and lambs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"no i love foxes
I love tigers but a heavily populated area is not the best place for them.
there are too many people what do you suggest we do about them? foxes are beautiful creatures unlike a lot of people too.
There are a lot that are under nourished, carrying disease, a danger to humans and considered by many as vermin. I have no problem with them in their appropriate environment."
But that's because their habitat and food source is dying out.
The difference between an urban fox and a country fox is very clear! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"That's coz your a city dweller ! If you travel a few miles to your left there is the countryside, try it, you might learn something...
Milk comes from cows NOT tescos
Eggs do come out of chickens , raw. Not poached or scrambled,
The urban fox is only urban coz stupid bloody twats keep expanding the cities into their territory . "
Wow, thank you for such an educated response to the debate, what a lot of new information I have to take in at once. May I ask is grass really green and do trees also grow leaves in the country?
But getting back to the question, foxes have been in cities for years, a pair of breeding adults will typically have 5-6 cubs per year, should we try and control it or live with it?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Leave em alone , same with the urban deers, Here's an idea, see if everyone cleaned up at there arses instead o dumping stuff everywhere then the animals would naturally move back to there natural hunting grounds "
Totally agree with you  |
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"Leave em alone , same with the urban deers, Here's an idea, see if everyone cleaned up at there arses instead o dumping stuff everywhere then the animals would naturally move back to there natural hunting grounds "
And all the seagulls that live inland would love to move back to the sea instead of easy pickings from bins?
Foxes live in urban areas because of the feeding habits they have become accustomed to. |
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One of the saddest sights i seen recently was in the middle of bloody no mans land.. and a Beautifull lovely fox was ripping into the contents of someones rubbish from KFC..
Its US that are bringing a Taste of the Urban Life to the Countryside and dumping it.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The bumpkins want to chase them with dogs and rip them to bits.
The townies want them killed off.
All the poor bloody fox wants is leaving alone.
Who would ever want to come back as a FOX.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Instead of culling them maybe something could be done to decrease their reproductive rate, like sterilisations. I know they did that to pigeons in a European city by adding something to the water in their drinking fountains. Not sure how they could work it out for urban foxes but if you sterilise 10 or 20% of the population you'd already see a significat decrease in the next generation. |
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"Instead of culling them maybe something could be done to decrease their reproductive rate, like sterilisations. I know they did that to pigeons in a European city by adding something to the water in their drinking fountains. Not sure how they could work it out for urban foxes but if you sterilise 10 or 20% of the population you'd already see a significat decrease in the next generation."
They tried that a few years ago in South Devon with gulls and it had very little effect to be honest.
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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago
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All I would say is why is it ok for people to kill rats but not to kill foxes what is the different? After all a life is a life. And mankind has upset the balance of nature so now he needs to manage her as so to benefit the whole of wildlife and not just one part of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know why people are saying they must be culled, but I also enjoy watching them when they are out and about.
So many times I would bump into one when I walked to work at 4am.
The obly reason they are urban is because of us taking their territory. |
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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago
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"I know why people are saying they must be culled, but I also enjoy watching them when they are out and about.
So many times I would bump into one when I walked to work at 4am.
The obly reason they are urban is because of us taking their territory."
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Should they be culled?
Are there solutions other than culling ?
In my opinion no.....the same with gulls who are born on top of town rooftops and have never seen the sea.
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Urban gulls are increasing in population because humans throw so much shit away. Rural gulls are decreasing in population so I am happy there are successful colonies out there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i love almost all nature, (see pics elsewhere lol), sorry but I have always felt that the creatures we share our time with on earth have exactly the same right to live their lives
I dont think they do that much harm to be honest
fuck! theyve raked a bin, shat in ur plants..FUCK off and get a life
can u sense I get bored of 'people' sometimes..its no wonder sometimes I'm at my happiest when its only myself and nature around me, things like watching a fox on a hill during a sunset, or walking around an urban area catch my eye more than I can say for most humans. |
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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago
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Leaving aside the debate about culling Badgers for the control of TB What do we do about the badgers that have been left too their own devices for a number of years now and have bred so well that they are a very real threat to ground nesting birds and their eggs like skylarks grey partridge stone curlew to name but a few do these creature not deserve protecting as well? It all comes back to balance and management. In life thing are very rarely just black and white. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"can u sense I get bored of 'people' sometimes..its no wonder sometimes I'm at my happiest when its only myself and nature around me, things like watching a fox on a hill during a sunset, or walking around an urban area catch my eye more than I can say for most humans."
Watching a fox hunting on the University campus recently was lovely. It was pouncing everywhere. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"no i love foxes
I love tigers but a heavily populated area is not the best place for them."
But if they were there then it wouldn't be heavily populated for long and leave the foxes alone |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No why should they be culled? They have been chased out of the country side! And I like foxes ! "
think you will find that foxes are in towns and cities because there is food there ! It's simply nature |
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"No why should they be culled? They have been chased out of the country side! And I like foxes !
think you will find that foxes are in towns and cities because there is food there ! It's simply nature "
its also about most of us having a love of green space....we love gardens,parks etc..some just really dont like that we cant have it all our own way ie keeping out the riffraff-animals..
its constant complaining really, if it isnt foxes,its squirrels,mice,rats,rabbits,gulls..cats dogs
perhaps people should go to giant greenhouses and select what types of nature is allowed..that way theyd be happy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"NO.. I they shouldn't nor should badgers either!  "
The badger is a protected species ! They are being culled because of TB in cattle a totally different debate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should they be culled?
The ones that shred my shed roof, keep me awake with their "crying" and shit on my decking should be! "
thats them having anal sex..and foxes dont douche |
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"Leaving aside the debate about culling Badgers for the control of TB What do we do about the badgers that have been left too their own devices for a number of years now and have bred so well that they are a very real threat to ground nesting birds and their eggs like skylarks grey partridge stone curlew to name but a few do these creature not deserve protecting as well? It all comes back to balance and management. In life thing are very rarely just black and white. "
That's a natural imbalance though, surely? The way food chains work. In time if the bird population is so drastically reduced due to an increase in the badger population, the badgers will then not have enough food and so their population will dwindle allowing the bird population to recoup. I think humans interfering with such a natural process any more than we do already, would be a terrible idea. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wonderful creature,too see them in nature hunting and getting food for the cubs is beautiful..in ireland we dont really get them in urban areas just rural really and thats the way it should be.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wonderful creature,too see them in nature hunting and getting food for the cubs is beautiful..in ireland we dont really get them in urban areas just rural really and thats the way it should be.."
well they become 'vermin'- because they get lazy and want easy food...rural foxes probably slag off their urban counterparts by saying things like
"chicken doesnt come from a bin!"
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was at scoutstonhill train station going back home the other day and a fox came onto the oppisite platform and my dog sat watching it intently and vice versa with the fox for a good five mins before it scurried away again. Was the first time id seen a fox up close and was pretty cool. I dont agree with culling them at all |
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"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws.
For instance I will put a fly or spider that is in my space outside. I cannot kill a living being as it has a right to life just as I do "
Yet you happily announced in an earlier thread today that you were having 'Aberdeen Angus' burgers for tea.
Do foxes, spiders, and flies have a greater right to life than cattle then?
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"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws.
For instance I will put a fly or spider that is in my space outside. I cannot kill a living being as it has a right to life just as I do
Yet you happily announced in an earlier thread today that you were having 'Aberdeen Angus' burgers for tea.
Do foxes, spiders, and flies have a greater right to life than cattle then?
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I never said I was a vegetarian. I personally will not kill a creature  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Having lived where I do for most of my life its not completely urban and yet not completely rural, I've always seen foxes about even in garden as a kid when I had a pet duck. But what I have noticed is a vast increase in the fox population since the ban of fox hunting. |
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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago
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"Leaving aside the debate about culling Badgers for the control of TB What do we do about the badgers that have been left too their own devices for a number of years now and have bred so well that they are a very real threat to ground nesting birds and their eggs like skylarks grey partridge stone curlew to name but a few do these creature not deserve protecting as well? It all comes back to balance and management. In life thing are very rarely just black and white.
That's a natural imbalance though, surely? The way food chains work. In time if the bird population is so drastically reduced due to an increase in the badger population, the badgers will then not have enough food and so their population will dwindle allowing the bird population to recoup. I think humans interfering with such a natural process any more than we do already, would be a terrible idea."
I think you miss the point a little it can not be a natural thing because we as humans upset that balance sometimes for the good and sometimes not so good I.e. the way we farm which can provide a easy meal for say a old fox that would normally died once winter comes but because of the easy food that it can find it does not and then goes on to breed for another year. Or say that walk you have on the Sunday morning though the wonderful countryside with your lovely dog that has wandered off the footpath a bit and flush's that grey partridge sitting on her nest. No harm done you think he did not catch it but unknown to you the bird has given off a scent which the badger or fox will smell later that night and will come and kill the hen bird and have her eggs.So even in a small way you have interfered with the natural balance of things. So again it comes back to management of wildlife whether we like it or not whether it is in the countryside or towns. |
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"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws.
For instance I will put a fly or spider that is in my space outside. I cannot kill a living being as it has a right to life just as I do
Yet you happily announced in an earlier thread today that you were having 'Aberdeen Angus' burgers for tea.
Do foxes, spiders, and flies have a greater right to life than cattle then?
I never said I was a vegetarian. I personally will not kill a creature "
"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws"......
I don't think they are suggesting that average householders kill a fox themselves.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One of the saddest sights i seen recently was in the middle of bloody no mans land.. and a Beautifull lovely fox was ripping into the contents of someones rubbish from KFC..
Its US that are bringing a Taste of the Urban Life to the Countryside and dumping it.. "
sad but so true !
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"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws.
For instance I will put a fly or spider that is in my space outside. I cannot kill a living being as it has a right to life just as I do
Yet you happily announced in an earlier thread today that you were having 'Aberdeen Angus' burgers for tea.
Do foxes, spiders, and flies have a greater right to life than cattle then?
I never said I was a vegetarian. I personally will not kill a creature
"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws"......
I don't think they are suggesting that average householders kill a fox themselves...."
That's a whole different argument. Foxes are not being killed for food but to limit their numbers. |
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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago
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"I just took it when you said the badgers have been left to their own devices etc that this was some place where humans had had very little impact or interference. My bad."
At one time badgers were controlled but a law was past that this could no long be carried out which has lead to an explosion in the badger population. Did you know that there are more badgers now than foxes. What I'm trying to say is because of man nature can not be left to its own accord whether we like it or not.
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"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws.
For instance I will put a fly or spider that is in my space outside. I cannot kill a living being as it has a right to life just as I do
Yet you happily announced in an earlier thread today that you were having 'Aberdeen Angus' burgers for tea.
Do foxes, spiders, and flies have a greater right to life than cattle then?
I never said I was a vegetarian. I personally will not kill a creature
"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws"......
I don't think they are suggesting that average householders kill a fox themselves....
That's a whole different argument. Foxes are not being killed for food but to limit their numbers."
Fair enough, I took 'any creature' to mean ANY creature...regardless of the reason behind it. |
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"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws.
For instance I will put a fly or spider that is in my space outside. I cannot kill a living being as it has a right to life just as I do
Yet you happily announced in an earlier thread today that you were having 'Aberdeen Angus' burgers for tea.
Do foxes, spiders, and flies have a greater right to life than cattle then?
I never said I was a vegetarian. I personally will not kill a creature
"Killing any creature to me is against natural laws"......
I don't think they are suggesting that average householders kill a fox themselves....
That's a whole different argument. Foxes are not being killed for food but to limit their numbers.
Fair enough, I took 'any creature' to mean ANY creature...regardless of the reason behind it."
Fair enough. I agree to a certain extent
...perhaps I should be a vegetarian but do enjoy meat....creatures bred for Hunan consumption.  |
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Foxes are beautiful creatures and so cute, they deserve to live and we have no right to destroy them..They just do what any other animal have to do to survive, they have to eat and will scavenge to find it..seagulls are a nuscience and so are feral cats, rats spiders etc.. |
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"Having lived where I do for most of my life its not completely urban and yet not completely rural, I've always seen foxes about even in garden as a kid when I had a pet duck. But what I have noticed is a vast increase in the fox population since the ban of fox hunting."
There has not been a vast increase in the fox population ( DEFRA source info ) what has happened is that foxes learn very fast and have simply returned to the areas that were hunting grounds, they have become braver too, |
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In 'the olden days', foxes and badgers would have had predators, which would have naturally controlled their numbers...but we eradicated all those, so now they sit pretty much at the top of the food chain ! |
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"In 'the olden days', foxes and badgers would have had predators, which would have naturally controlled their numbers...but we eradicated all those, so now they sit pretty much at the top of the food chain !"
They still have a natural predator, it's called the car.... |
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