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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sell it cos don't think you will be riding it for a while

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Sell it cos don't think you will be riding it for a while

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guess I asked for that one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Was it on public roads?

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple over a year ago

truro

Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

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56 days! cricky! worse than I feared.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Serves you right, no sympathy here or are you bragging

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Was it on public roads?"

Yes the A47 dual carrageway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hope you get a year ban and they make you resit your test.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’d like to see people who dangerously speed have their bikes or cars taken from them and crushed….…

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

Far too lenient.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Serves you right, no sympathy here or are you bragging"

Not bragging about it, just wondering what sort of punishment to expect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only way you can keep licence will be to plead extreme hardship ie u will lose job if banned

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Serves you right, no sympathy here or are you bragging

Not bragging about it, just wondering what sort of punishment to expect."
not enough I should expect, you deserve at least a year ban

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The only way you can keep licence will be to plead extreme hardship ie u will lose job if banned "

What about pleading insanity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My own fault when I was caught speeding twice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i hope you get your licence taken off you and banned for a good few years.

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple over a year ago

truro

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

56 days! cricky! worse than I feared. "

Gentleman before me brought solicitor and he was caught 120 but got off with £1000 fine and no ban, I went in held up my hands with no excuses, if you can't afford solicitor then have a good excuse family illness etc and evidence too back it up !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Serves you right, no sympathy here or are you bragging

Not bragging about it, just wondering what sort of punishment to expect.not enough I should expect, you deserve at least a year ban"

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By *otandhottererCouple over a year ago

dursley

Hubby got caught doing considerably more than 101 in his car he got 56 days ban solicitor said anything over 100 is an unavoidable ban x

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

was 70 not quick enough......

you only did over a ton because you thought you could get away with it.... so the remorse is only because you got caught....

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By *ighly ProfessionalMan over a year ago

peterborough

A friend of mine got killed a few years ago by an idiot speeding on a bike . Here you are bragging about it and only a tad worried about a fine or ban. Grow up think of others maybe next time at that speed you wont come home alive and i'm sure loved ones dont want that.

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By *lutandhubbyCouple over a year ago

west midlands

anything over 100 miles a hour is a automatic ban and fine now

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I’d like to see people who dangerously speed have their bikes or cars taken from them and crushed….…

Personally I would rather see people who drive dangerously at any speed have their licence removed rather than crossing an arbitrary speed line .

Let's see who is safer the guy 3 m behind me at 50 on the m1 or me at 90 with the next car 300 m ahead ?

Ironically a bike at only 100 on a duel could be far safer than the same bike on country road at 60

Let's face it it is pretty much his risk of harm

Dangerous driving at speed will have greater impact than dd more slowly this does not logically equate that faster is dangerous

I would articulate that all drivers who have a passenger or kids in car who speak one word to another are more dangerous than most bikers traveling straight line at 100

A cosy box and complacency are sadly one of the main causes of accidents , oh and rubber necking

I know that stretch of road well , cars over taking on the single carriage way at the legal limit cause nearly all the accidents on the 47

Most bikes at 100 are traveling at only 65% their design speed

Give the guy a break it's not like he has been flashing lorry drivers x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I’d like to see people who dangerously speed have their bikes or cars taken from them and crushed….…

Personally I would rather see people who drive dangerously at any speed have their licence removed rather than crossing an arbitrary speed line .

Let's see who is safer the guy 3 m behind me at 50 on the m1 or me at 90 with the next car 300 m ahead ?

Ironically a bike at only 100 on a duel could be far safer than the same bike on country road at 60

Let's face it it is pretty much his risk of harm

Dangerous driving at speed will have greater impact than dd more slowly this does not logically equate that faster is dangerous

I would articulate that all drivers who have a passenger or kids in car who speak one word to another are more dangerous than most bikers traveling straight line at 100

A cosy box and complacency are sadly one of the main causes of accidents , oh and rubber necking

I know that stretch of road well , cars over taking on the single carriage way at the legal limit cause nearly all the accidents on the 47

Most bikes at 100 are traveling at only 65% their design speed

Give the guy a break it's not like he has been flashing lorry drivers x"

amen to that!

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By *acciWoman over a year ago

leeds

You should never be allowed to drive again,and made to work in a hospital for people with serious injuries sustained because of dangerous drivers like you

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By *igSuki81Man over a year ago

Retirement Village

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By *igSuki81Man over a year ago

Retirement Village

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

considering your location & having lived just off the a14 i know they are going to come down on you like a ton of bricks

This time of the year the cops are always out trying to catch bikers in cambs doing silly speeds and even though the a roads are very tempting around there. I'd say the solicitor advice is best. Good luck with it though

forgot to say thats assuming you got caught in cambs lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’d like to see people who dangerously speed have their bikes or cars taken from them and crushed….…

Personally I would rather see people who drive dangerously at any speed have their licence removed rather than crossing an arbitrary speed line .

Let's see who is safer the guy 3 m behind me at 50 on the m1 or me at 90 with the next car 300 m ahead ?

Ironically a bike at only 100 on a duel could be far safer than the same bike on country road at 60

Let's face it it is pretty much his risk of harm

Dangerous driving at speed will have greater impact than dd more slowly this does not logically equate that faster is dangerous

I would articulate that all drivers who have a passenger or kids in car who speak one word to another are more dangerous than most bikers traveling straight line at 100

A cosy box and complacency are sadly one of the main causes of accidents , oh and rubber necking

I know that stretch of road well , cars over taking on the single carriage way at the legal limit cause nearly all the accidents on the 47

Most bikes at 100 are traveling at only 65% their design speed

Give the guy a break it's not like he has been flashing lorry drivers x"

And this is why we’ll always have accidents caused by people who attempt to justify breaking the law is OK for them while the rest of us must keep out of their way while they do it or run the risk of being hurt by their actions

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By *icksfocusMan over a year ago

Pontefract

I'm also a biker but am afraid over 100mph is an automatic ban, also double the speed limit ie 80 in a 40

roads arew dangerous enough and if you like speed on two wheels, then do track days like I do. Unfortunately when you get banned you wont be able to do track days either as you have to show your licence

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By *ecor atorMan over a year ago

York

You are definately looking at minimum 3month ban, 12 month possible,

6 month more likely.

The biggest problem you face is the insurance premium when you get it back. It will be a figure so big you won't believe. Even on a moped or the crappiest slowest car.

Oh and the final some quite rightly- you won't be allowed to hire a car in the EU For 11 years!

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I’d like to see people who dangerously speed have their bikes or cars taken from them and crushed….…

Personally I would rather see people who drive dangerously at any speed have their licence removed rather than crossing an arbitrary speed line .

Let's see who is safer the guy 3 m behind me at 50 on the m1 or me at 90 with the next car 300 m ahead ?

Ironically a bike at only 100 on a duel could be far safer than the same bike on country road at 60

Let's face it it is pretty much his risk of harm

Dangerous driving at speed will have greater impact than dd more slowly this does not logically equate that faster is dangerous

I would articulate that all drivers who have a passenger or kids in car who speak one word to another are more dangerous than most bikers traveling straight line at 100

A cosy box and complacency are sadly one of the main causes of accidents , oh and rubber necking

I know that stretch of road well , cars over taking on the single carriage way at the legal limit cause nearly all the accidents on the 47

Most bikes at 100 are traveling at only 65% their design speed

Give the guy a break it's not like he has been flashing lorry drivers x"

rubbish.... and i'll tell you why...

rather than some figure.. i'll use a ratio.... 50%

he was basically doing 50% about where the speed limit is.....

okay... so would you ever do 60 in a 40????

no...

because in a sense that is what he was doing.....

so... what kind of brain fart do you have to forget what the speed limit is.. and think "wow, i can do what i want!!!"

doing three figures on any public road will get no sympathy with me if you get caught.... I'd go one further.... ban them and crush it!!!

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By *ecor atorMan over a year ago

York

Missed out the phrase ' kick in the bollocks' at the end there!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Push bike or motorbike

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You need Mr loophole

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Give him a break!!!! Are you serious.

I had 2 mates die due to some idiot driving at stupid speeds.

Lost control and took 3 cars out with him.

It's fucking stupid

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple over a year ago

truro

There is no such thing as an automatic ban, anything over 100 the police cannot deal with it at the road side you have your appearance in court and as its magistrates the ban can range from 7-56 days 120 days in extreme cases it's up too the magistrates and the circumstances of the offence to warrant a ban. Take a solicitor plead poverty etc good luck

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Give the guy a break it's not like he has been flashing lorry drivers x"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

fastest thread ever..well over 100mph

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bad luck to get caught. hardly fast by bike standards..

just take advice already given and learn to watch around.

Speed is rarely the only cause for accidents... But easy money..

I suggest you look at bike forums as it's most likely been covered on there a fair few times.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You should never be allowed to drive again,and made to work in a hospital for people with serious injuries sustained because of dangerous drivers like you"

I agree !!!!!!!!!

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By *hoe_nixCouple over a year ago

leeds

you will be lucky to get a ban and a fine

many bikers aren't so lucky -- much slower can end up in broken limbs -- brain injury -- quad and paraplegia -- and worse

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm looking for a bike just now actually.

Can I have yours when you get banned?

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By *Ryan-Man over a year ago

In Your Bush

There was a thread not so long ago for people to state the fastest speed they had ever gone on two or four wheels.

I think it was a 175 post thread which completed without a hint of outrage.

It's a fickle place here at times.

Ps. Op I'm not sure what sort of advice you are after? But it was obviously daft to do and even dafter posting it here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You should have more sense at your age, I personally hope they throw the book at you. Not only could you have caused an horrendous accident, resulting in someone's death, you could've killed yourself, I notice you have a wife and kids, how the fuck do you think they would feel? It's not all about you and how it will effect you, but everyone else around you, you were very lucky you only got caught speeding and it wasn't more serious.....grow up

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I got caught in 1997 doing considerably more than 100. I was travelling across the country for a job interview and had been held up by road works.

Result was a 14 day ban and £600 fine. The ban was short as I got a letter from my employer saying a lengthy bamboo would result in my dismissal.

Lesson learnt? Yes. Don't drive so fast now and give myself more time in case of traffic delays.

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Interesting , well as an ex body shop manager I have statistics , and speed is almost never the cause of any accident x most common is the classic roundabout rear end shunt at about , 12 mph

Then disregarding bumper corners from car park errors , side impact from pulling out at junction , next and often sever is m way collision from traveling too close , oh sorry forgot the lorries that cut across their blind spot

I gave estimates on over 25 cars lcv per week and less than 1 in 500 would involve speed above 40 mph

I wonder if you could actually articulate why his speed was dangerous to the other road users on that road at that time , bearing in mind that the road is straight there are no junctions and a m bike is more stable at speed

The speed limit there is 70 so we need to explain how the 30 mph significantly increase the danger for others from 70 .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh op you have committed the crime of the century it seems, because no one on here speeds.

If it's your first points it will be easier than if you have more.

I think most people posting such condemnation have not ever ridden a bike.. it's hardly fast for a bike... And not like it was down a county lane.

Good luck... Hope they don't be to harsh on you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Driving at 103 ... I hope they throw the book at you to be honest. Can you imagine the damage you'd have done to yourself if you'd come off ? Not to mention the damage or injury to other people - you fool!

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By *igSuki81Man over a year ago

Retirement Village

"Oh op you have committed the crime of the century it seems, because no one on here speeds.

If it's your first points it will be easier than if you have more.

I think most people posting such condemnation have not ever ridden a bike.. it's hardly fast for a bike... And not like it was down a county lane.

Good luck... Hope they don't be to harsh on you"

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

Ok if people are going to post can you do it without abusing people as you will end up with a ban on the forum.

( posts removed before anyone gets the wrong idea )

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"Oh op you have committed the crime of the century it seems, because no one on here speeds.

If it's your first points it will be easier than if you have more.

I think most people posting such condemnation have not ever ridden a bike.. it's hardly fast for a bike... And not like it was down a county lane.

Are bikes exempt from the speed laws?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Interesting , well as an ex body shop manager I have statistics , and speed is almost never the cause of any accident x most common is the classic roundabout rear end shunt at about , 12 mph

I gave estimates on over 25 cars lcv per week and less than 1 in 500 would involve speed above 40 mph

The speed limit there is 70 so we need to explain how the 30 mph significantly increase the danger for others from 70 ."

You’ve already successfully shown your disregard for the laws of the road by trying to defend the actions of someone intent on wilfully breaking them …

You can't have it all ways... either you abide by the law or you don't..

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast. "

It is fast.

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By *ikerbob1957Man over a year ago

Glasgow

Your previous record will be taken into consideration. If this is a first offence then it might be dealt with more leniently.

If you have a history of speeding or other offences then expect to be dealt with severely.

30mph over any speed limit is usually booked as dangerous driving.

Don't take your car or bike to the court as you won't be taking it home.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Looks like you will be stuffed reading this thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

It is fast."

not for a bike capable of much more. I can't see many people that haven't sped at some point..

I haven't said he shouldn't get done, just that it was hardly fast and hardly the crime of the year..

I've managed to never get a ticket...

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By *ucy and CarlCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

Hope they throw the book at you. It's people like you that kill people. Any idiot can make a bike go fast but the skill comes when you have to stop suddenly. If you want to kill yourself find a way where you don't put other people at risk.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

It is fast.

not for a bike capable of much more. I can't see many people that haven't sped at some point..

I haven't said he shouldn't get done, just that it was hardly fast and hardly the crime of the year..

I've managed to never get a ticket..."

You are talking as if all vehicles can use the speed they are capable for...they can't or they get nicked...just like the OP has.

As I say, it is fast.

If someone you knew got killed by an idiot speeding 30 mph over the speedlimit would you be saying the same thing?

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By *thyorksCouple over a year ago

ROTHERHAM

Anything over 100 is generally a ban, all depends on how long I would take a solicitor in with you..

I sold my bike last year as it was too easy to drift above the limit once you moved out of 2nd gear..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's true to say that the majority of people have at some point broken the speed limit, but 30mph over is excessive to say the least, the fact he was riding a bike that is designed to go faster is irrelevant, I don't think he should be getting a pat on the back either tbh

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By *untimes_2009Couple over a year ago

Wallasey

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

56 days! cricky! worse than I feared. "

56/£400. You were damn lucky.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

It is fast.

not for a bike capable of much more. I can't see many people that haven't sped at some point..

I haven't said he shouldn't get done, just that it was hardly fast and hardly the crime of the year..

I've managed to never get a ticket...

You are talking as if all vehicles can use the speed they are capable for...they can't or they get nicked...just like the OP has.

As I say, it is fast.

If someone you knew got killed by an idiot speeding 30 mph over the speedlimit would you be saying the same thing?"

I've lost a friend to an accident where drink and speed were involved.. I just don't think on a dual carriageway, with a clear road ahead it was much.

I actually pay for trackdays mostly to get my speed thrill... And get passed mostly on the motorways by people going much faster than me. as long as they are driving sensibly then I can't see the problem..

I still feel the middle lane idiots that sit there are more of a risk.

I would say average speed of motorways and dual carriage ways is 85 plus now.

I'd never noticed but currently have to keep my car within certain rev limit.. and now noticed it more.

I think less focus on speed and more on road awareness. I have often found myself over the limit when just maintaining a safe gap between me and the car in front. Because I've been watching the road and not my Speedo.

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple over a year ago

truro

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

56 days! cricky! worse than I feared.

56/£400. You were damn lucky. "

By most accounts of the others there I was unlucky most didn't get banned, but I did get fine reduced to £120

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By *ucsparkMan over a year ago

dudley

Usually over a hundred is a ban.

Get decent advice.

Be ready to lose your license

Remember you and your bike might be capable of speed, but can you stop when someone pulls out doing the correct speed.

As Cali said keep the speed for race days

Good luck and I hope your boss is understanding

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By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Make sure your donor cards and will are uptodate riding like that

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By *kywatcherMan over a year ago

Southwick

"There was a thread not so long ago for people to state the fastest speed they had ever gone on two or four wheels.

I think it was a 175 post thread which completed without a hint of outrage.

It's a fickle place here at times.

Ps. Op I'm not sure what sort of advice you are after? But it was obviously daft to do and even dafter posting it here. "

I remember that thread and posted to it.

Wonder if any posters on that thread are naysayers on this one?

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"You should never be allowed to drive again,and made to work in a hospital for people with serious injuries sustained because of dangerous drivers like you"

Now let's just analyse this ?

Oh yes sadly a majority of rta s with head injury sustained are usually m bikers after a car traveling slowly out of junction pulls in front

I was traveling at 40 in 60 zone when this happened to me I was lucky x

It's lack of concentration , poor vision, mechanical failure bad manners that cause accidents speed is actually only one minor factor in cause although to be fair if then the car is going faster the effects can indeed be more severe x

It's all very well harping on about its above a particular limit why do so few regard the objective facts concerning the danger to others which in this case is next to zero x

As for the law, like most I guess pretty good, I did drink at 17 lock me up, i did have sex at 15 and a half , I sometimes pop over the speed limit and sometimes regardless of other traffic I stay well below . Also although I have no desire to visit a working girl I don't think she is wrong or a bad person just because their is a law at this moment against it

Lot of knee jerk hang him high , I'd prefer not to let the UK government do my thinking for me I prefer case by case objective reasoning x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I'd prefer not to let the UK government do my thinking for me I prefer case by case objective reasoning x"

But yet you fail to accept the objective reasoning of others,,,... sigh..

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By *kywatcherMan over a year ago

Southwick

"Also although I have no desire to visit a working girl I don't think she is wrong or a bad person just because their is a law at this moment against it"

There is no law against prostitution although there are rules around pimping, soliciting and curb crawling etc.

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Who's law for a start

A universal human law? American law then most here are DANGEROUS because they go over 55 or German law where I have safely driven amongst others at over 145

I think the fact is the limits can be not all cases , can be arbitrary

In some cases the limit is too high many villages are 40 where 20 would be better I know one which is 50 through which I drive and ride at about 35

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By *kywatcherMan over a year ago

Southwick

*rules.....laws

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Also although I have no desire to visit a working girl I don't think she is wrong or a bad person just because their is a law at this moment against it

There is no law against prostitution although there are rules around pimping, soliciting and curb crawling etc."

Oh come on the point was clear we all know about the nonsense which surrounds prostitution laws

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

" I'd prefer not to let the UK government do my thinking for me I prefer case by case objective reasoning x

But yet you fail to accept the objective reasoning of others,,,... sigh..

Do I really ? Not seen any that has been reasoned which I have failed address

Objective reasoning would require a Lil more than "its dangerous " it would require the maths physics and statistics why is would be a dangerous then b , because everything is dangerous . Why is is prohibitively more dangerous than not , what the exact possible outcomes could be and how

As previous post illustrates the limit is not an absolute as countries disagree

Then you have weather and road conditions as factors to bluntly say x speed does y is pretty much not nonsensical ignorance

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

" I'd prefer not to let the UK government do my thinking for me I prefer case by case objective reasoning x

But yet you fail to accept the objective reasoning of others,,,... sigh..

Do I really ? Not seen any that has been reasoned which I have failed address

As previous post illustrates the limit is not an absolute as countries disagree

Then you have weather and road conditions as factors to bluntly say x speed does y is pretty much not nonsensical ignorance "

so you think it is okay to go 33mph above the speed limit??? I'm sorry but I dont....

you can use any arguement you want... but that disregard the one you can't use is "ooops!!"....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

56 days! cricky! worse than I feared.

56/£400. You were damn lucky.

By most accounts of the others there I was unlucky most didn't get banned, but I did get fine reduced to £120"

think a lot of the posters on here are unaware just how easy 100mph is on a bike. Or how unlike a fast speed it will seem. Majority of bikers I know will hit that without trying or realising it...

My argument about it not being fast is on that. 100mph on a bike capable of probably nearly twice that will seem nothing like it does doing 100mph in your average family car.

I've done speed in various cars and it's funny how different it seems. What seems slow in others seems scarily fast in others. Despite it actually being the same speed.

I got pulled once for 92mph on the m1 I'd been keeping a steady gap between myself and the car in front. Not looked at my Speedo.. anyway. Suddenly car I am following has a sign in the back saying follow me.

They asked me what speed I was doing I said same as you as I was keeping a 2 second gap. At this they showed me the footage... However I didn't get a ticket. Because they could hardly argue with my argument. They just advised me to check my speed more often but said my distance keeping was a good rule.

I was taught when riding a bike that only a fool breaks the two second rule. Meaning I keep two seconds minimum between myself and the vehicle in front at any speed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Suppose we should be thankful you didn't kill an innocent person speed limits are there for a reason

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By *kywatcherMan over a year ago

Southwick

"Also although I have no desire to visit a working girl I don't think she is wrong or a bad person just because their is a law at this moment against it

There is no law against prostitution although there are rules around pimping, soliciting and curb crawling etc.

Oh come on the point was clear we all know about the nonsense which surrounds prostitution laws"

You don't appear to....'just because their (sic) is a law at this moment against it'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

Far too lenient. "

Same here and why is it not the same as car drivers get?

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By *B9 QueenWoman over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Find out all the bus and train routes. You're going to be needing them.

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Interestingly part of my job is health and safety

In the real world we have to do dangerous jobs safely the one main control of risk is education and training, there is no doubt some people have the abilities and experience to go well over 100 safely and others are not safe at under 40

The two most notorious drivers in my area do not ever exceed 35 , one is over 80 the other is under 30 both have caused over 12 accidents in last 3 years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

It is fast."

Not by bike standards!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Your lucky your still alive I came very close to losing my husband after a horrific bike accident.

I have no sympathy at all for you, your own bloody fault for going that speed thank God you never hurt anyone else god forbid!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I'd prefer not to let the UK government do my thinking for me I prefer case by case objective reasoning x

But yet you fail to accept the objective reasoning of others,,,... sigh..

Do I really ? Not seen any that has been reasoned which I have failed address

As previous post illustrates the limit is not an absolute as countries disagree

Then you have weather and road conditions as factors to bluntly say x speed does y is pretty much not nonsensical ignorance "

I think it’s easy to see by reading some of the straw-clutching comments in this thread that talking nonsense is a specialist subject for some people....

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i'll ask the question that is being fudged by all those saying "bikes are fast ect ect ect, safety has improved ect ect ect..."

do you think it is okay to go 33mph above the speed limit???.........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Interesting , well as an ex body shop manager ."

lol this confused me a bit!! i thought u meant "the body shop" and wondered how someone who sells body lotion for a livin knew so much about crashes!!

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By *etillanteWoman over a year ago

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By *ouplefunukCouple over a year ago

North Bristol

I think most people posting such condemnation have not ever ridden a bike.. it's hardly fast for a bike... And not like it was down a county lane.

Irrelevant. He broke the law full stop. I really despise people who think they have the right to pick and choose which laws they obey.

Callie, I really suspect if one of your kids was injured or killed by a speeding motorist, you'd be singing a very different tune! Wouldn't be OK then would it?

*Her*

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By *gents 3 and 4Couple over a year ago

truro

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

Far too lenient.

Same here and why is it not the same as car drivers get?"

I was driving a car, I'm only 5ft 2 don't think there is a bike I could ride, maybe a tricycle

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By *ouplefunukCouple over a year ago

North Bristol

Oh, and yes,I owned and rode bikes when I was younger. Don't care how easy it is to go fast on a bike, it still doesn't make it excusable.

*Her*

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

This thread is bloody hilarious,

Talk about "Holier than thou"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Got caught at 101 and lost license for 56 days and 400 quid fine, take solicitor with you, I didn't

56 days! cricky! worse than I feared.

56/£400. You were damn lucky.

By most accounts of the others there I was unlucky most didn't get banned, but I did get fine reduced to £120

think a lot of the posters on here are unaware just how easy 100mph is on a bike. Or how unlike a fast speed it will seem. Majority of bikers I know will hit that without trying or realising it...

My argument about it not being fast is on that. 100mph on a bike capable of probably nearly twice that will seem nothing like it does doing 100mph in your average family car.

I've done speed in various cars and it's funny how different it seems. What seems slow in others seems scarily fast in others. Despite it actually being the same speed.

I was taught when riding a bike that only a fool breaks the two second rule. Meaning I keep two seconds minimum between myself and the vehicle in front at any speed. "

I'd reword it and say "Only a fool rides at 103"

Sorry but your argument about how easy it is to bla bla bla bla bla cuts no ice with me. It would be very easy to drive my car at 100mph but I don't do it .... simple - neither do I have any need or desire to do so.

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By *erekduvallCouple over a year ago

swansea

"Bad luck to get caught. hardly fast by bike standards..

just take advice already given and learn to watch around.

Speed is rarely the only cause for accidents... But easy money..

I suggest you look at bike forums as it's most likely been covered on there a fair few times. "

???????

Bike or no bike 30 over the limit...unexcusable,and no thought of possible danger too others.

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This thread is bloody hilarious,

Talk about "Holier than thou""

Its made me smile too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

tell them you were still feeling affects of a heavy night on the booze and didn't realise you were going so fast!Unless you're lucky or use a "Mr Loophole" type solicitor you're looking at an automatic ban,if you already have plenty of points due to previous speeding your looking at re-training and a re-test before you get your licence back

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i'll ask the question that is being fudged by all those saying "bikes are fast ect ect ect, safety has improved ect ect ect..."

do you think it is okay to go 33mph above the speed limit???........."

It is for the police!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

"
. You bikers say that we got to (think bike) well hang on, the majority of you push it over the ton regularly so why should us car drivers think about you when you abuse our roads???

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

do you think it is okay to go 33mph above the speed limit???.........

It is for the police!"

wow.... yes or no...... simple answer, don't squirm...

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By *layfullsamMan over a year ago

Solihull

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

enter the next tour de france reckon you would win it hands down

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh op you have committed the crime of the century it seems, because no one on here speeds.

If it's your first points it will be easier than if you have more.

I think most people posting such condemnation have not ever ridden a bike.. it's hardly fast for a bike... And not like it was down a county lane.

Good luck... Hope they don't be to harsh on you"

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By *layfullsamMan over a year ago

Solihull

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

blaim it on watching to much iom tt coverage

i would onestly expect a ban unless as other poster says you can plead you need your licence for work

if you can walk to work or get oublic transport and youve a desk job your doomed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not condoning anything that has been done but as I am someone hit while crossibg a road and suffered Several broken bones, extensive internal bleeding, skin grafts all over from where I was dragged to where they could make a safe stop, my parents taken into the family room and told to expect the worse, the best being if never walk again. I understand how travel can be dangerous.

That said, she was doing 35mph in a 40 zone. Things happen ! Lack of Speed doesn't always make up for lack of concentration

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By *ichaelangelaCouple over a year ago

notts

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast. "

this is my take on this comment,

it was on a dual carriageway so no problem with oncoming vehicles, however, vehicles ahead of you see a little spec in the rearview mirror and automatically assume that the speck in the mirror is doing the national speed limit, thus giving them plenty of time to pull out to overtake the vehicle in front of them safely. but, the speck in the mirror is someone going well in excess of the speed limit, and is now running into the back of them or pulling out and knocking them off their bike, no fault of the poor sod who thought he was overtaking safely is it ?? he done everything correctly, just did not know the biker was doing 103 instead of 70, and who gets the blame???? not the biker i bet

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By *ub bbwWoman over a year ago

oldbury

no excuses you broke the law and a ban should be expected I lost a very good friend many years ago on his bike when he was speeding and a tractor pulled out of a side road and he was going too fast to stop in time tragic loss of life but his own fault a sunny day is no excuse for tearing around like an idiot speed limits are there for a reason. To keep everyone safe so i would expect a decent fine and ban

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By *kywatcherMan over a year ago

Southwick

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

blaim it on watching to much iom tt coverage

i would onestly expect a ban unless as other poster says you can plead you need your licence for work

if you can walk to work or get oublic transport and youve a desk job your doomed"

Possibly the worst post I've had the misfortune to read.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast. "

What??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

It is fast.

Not by bike standards!"

Not just you, but too many people on this thread seem to be of the impression that a bike's maximum speed has far more of a bearing on what is perceived as "fast" and presumably dangerous rather than driver ability and road conditions.

I fail to see any logic in the argument that just because a bike can go considerably faster that it is not going "fast".

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By *artytwoCouple over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"The only way you can keep licence will be to plead extreme hardship ie u will lose job if banned

What about pleading insanity. "

What about pleading sanctimonious fuddy-duddy?

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By *B9 QueenWoman over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

All these debates are irrelevant. The law was broken. A price is to be paid. Most likely a hefty fine and a ban.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It wouldn't take long I'm sure to find a pothole thread here.... Is it what the bike is capable of or the road..... I can imagine the consequences of hitting one at high speed on a bike....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All I can say is you must have been pedalling fast

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deserve all you get, sorry but thats my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

I use to have bikes so know the thrill. At that speed your reactions need to be lightening quick.

Yes speeding like that is daft. However my pet hate is drink drivers and those you don't insure tax or mot their cars.

To me they should throw the book at these so called motorists.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"This thread is bloody hilarious,

Talk about "Holier than thou""

I swear there's something in the water; the righteous indignation level is cranked up to the max tonight!

My daughters drive on motorways frequently. I fear for them with idiots on the road, and yes, I think the op was stupid for speeding and for posting on here, but hot damn people!

Bet some of you ripping the op a new one were posting on the flashing truckers on the motorway and admitting to knocking one out watching some "tart" flash her tits!

Op I'm sure you're very, very sorry for being reckless, I won't chastise you further, but pm me, I have a horsehair shirt and cat o nine tails you can flagellate yourself with!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"This thread is bloody hilarious,

Talk about "Holier than thou"

I swear there's something in the water; the righteous indignation level is cranked up to the max tonight!

My daughters drive on motorways frequently. I fear for them with idiots on the road, and yes, I think the op was stupid for speeding and for posting on here, but hot damn people!

Bet some of you ripping the op a new one were posting on the flashing truckers on the motorway and admitting to knocking one out watching some "tart" flash her tits!

Op I'm sure you're very, very sorry for being reckless, I won't chastise you further, but pm me, I have a horsehair shirt and cat o nine tails you can flagellate yourself with!

Well I've never tried sadomasochism but after the beating I've taken on here tonight I'm up for it.

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By *artytwoCouple over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Most of the time the only person that gets hurt in a bike accident is the biker. Our local paper has two accidents in it tonight where people have been killed in car accidents plus serious injuries. I (the male) ride bikes and regularly exceed the so-called speed limits but generally on empty roads. I've also got a job that puts me in danger of attack or worse on a daily basis. I find it strange that people in our risky lifestyle can post such holier than thou comments. 103? that's me slowing down lol.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"This thread is bloody hilarious,

Talk about "Holier than thou"

I swear there's something in the water; the righteous indignation level is cranked up to the max tonight!

My daughters drive on motorways frequently. I fear for them with idiots on the road, and yes, I think the op was stupid for speeding and for posting on here, but hot damn people!

Bet some of you ripping the op a new one were posting on the flashing truckers on the motorway and admitting to knocking one out watching some "tart" flash her tits!

Op I'm sure you're very, very sorry for being reckless, I won't chastise you further, but pm me, I have a horsehair shirt and cat o nine tails you can flagellate yourself with!

Well I've never tried sadomasochism but after the beating I've taken on here tonight I'm up for it.

Even my giant 18" dildo Goliath and wasabi for lube won't compare to the whooping you've received fella. Surprised you've not got your head in the oven!

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

They aren't "so called speed limits" they are speed limits whether you agree with them or not.

I thought we weren't supposed to discuss breaking the law in the forum

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

As an uncle of mine, who ran a car and motor cycle repair business, once said...

"On all vehicles, be they on 2 or 4 or more wheels, they are held together by hundreds, even thousands of nuts!

It only takes the one nut in control of the vehicle to make it all go wrong!"

Enough said!

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By *ndykayMan over a year ago

Falkirk

Pepipoo

Google it - they might be able to advise you

But to be honest, sell the bike lol

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By *picenicelyCouple over a year ago

third star on the right

Im a safe driver I passed my test a week after my wife gave birth to our daughter but the motorbike adverts that talk about watch out for biker's pisses me off not saying all bikers but many I have come across take stupid risks and don't give two shits about car drivers then complain about car drivers and cyclists are as bad riding side by side and riding in the middle of the road

As much as drivers should watch for bikers they should watch for cars too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think most people posting such condemnation have not ever ridden a bike.. it's hardly fast for a bike... And not like it was down a county lane.

Irrelevant. He broke the law full stop. I really despise people who think they have the right to pick and choose which laws they obey.

Callie, I really suspect if one of your kids was injured or killed by a speeding motorist, you'd be singing a very different tune! Wouldn't be OK then would it?

*Her*"

I normally have kids in my car. I just don't see that it was a big deal. And I've already said I don't think he should get away with it. Just that I don't consider it a fast speed.

I would say around town always stick to limits.. bigger roads. As I said I am more concerned with watching the road and my gaps than my Speedo.

And as to bringing my kids into it.. well I would hate anyone to lose their kids for what ever reason.

But I know that it's rarely just speed that causes accidents and I can't see why the op is getting such grief. Worse things happen..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This thread is bloody hilarious,

Talk about "Holier than thou"

I swear there's something in the water; the righteous indignation level is cranked up to the max tonight!

My daughters drive on motorways frequently. I fear for them with idiots on the road, and yes, I think the op was stupid for speeding and for posting on here, but hot damn people!

Bet some of you ripping the op a new one were posting on the flashing truckers on the motorway and admitting to knocking one out watching some "tart" flash her tits!

Op I'm sure you're very, very sorry for being reckless, I won't chastise you further, but pm me, I have a horsehair shirt and cat o nine tails you can flagellate yourself with!

Well I've never tried sadomasochism but after the beating I've taken on here tonight I'm up for it.

Even my giant 18" dildo Goliath and wasabi for lube won't compare to the whooping you've received fella. Surprised you've not got your head in the oven!

I swear its the weather

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By *riendly foeWoman over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"Serves you right, no sympathy here or are you bragging"

Bikers get hard enough time as it is without idiots like this!

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By *am123Man over a year ago

essex chelmsford

id bet that 90% of you lot above have broken the uk speed limit at some point!, if not regularly.

so please climb down from your high horses.

Its not big or clever to speed, but most do on occasion. theres so many on here that are whiter than white, and could criticise or argue in an empty room amazing.

The guys hardly bragging just asking and yes over a 100 instant bann prob 6months or a year

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't believe all the people on here having a go at him for doing just over 100 mph. It's just goes to show the brainwashing on people speeding that the labor government did worked pretty well. None of you was there with him and could judge the road conditions or traffic. Speed doesn't kill it's speeding at a inappropriate time and place that is dangerous. What's more dangerous driving through a town at night doing 30mph with pedestrians that have been drinking or doing 80mph on a quiet motorway?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"No but the fact is people speed and it was hardly fast.

It is fast.

not for a bike capable of much more. I can't see many people that haven't sped at some point..

I haven't said he shouldn't get done, just that it was hardly fast and hardly the crime of the year..

I've managed to never get a ticket...

You are talking as if all vehicles can use the speed they are capable for...they can't or they get nicked...just like the OP has.

As I say, it is fast.

If someone you knew got killed by an idiot speeding 30 mph over the speedlimit would you be saying the same thing?

I've lost a friend to an accident where drink and speed were involved.. I just don't think on a dual carriageway, with a clear road ahead it was much.

. "

Then that contradicts what you say, that speed isn't an issue as it obviously was for your friend.

I would rather it stay the crime it is and then people who think it is ok to do excessive speeds keep getting stopped and hopefully given enough points to take them off the road so people don't die like you say your friend did.

And to the comment of most people had probably gone over the speed limit, yes they probably have including me, but going silly speeds is downright stupid, no matter how "safe" people think they are and it beggars belief that people do this without any thought for other people.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

PS...can all of the people who think it ok to drive over 100mph on any roads please mile me with the name of the roads you use so I can avoid them please?

Thanking in advance

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By *kywatcherMan over a year ago

Southwick

"PS...can all of the people who think it ok to drive over 100mph on any roads please mile me with the name of the roads you use so I can avoid them please?

Thanking in advance

Mile 49 on interstate 95 on the Florida Keys...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im a safe driver I passed my test a week after my wife gave birth to our daughter but the motorbike adverts that talk about watch out for biker's pisses me off not saying all bikers but many I have come across take stupid risks and don't give two shits about car drivers then complain about car drivers and cyclists are as bad riding side by side and riding in the middle of the road

As much as drivers should watch for bikers they should watch for cars too

Totally agree. Loads of signs around here warning bikers of the amount of accidents. Don't stop the twunts batting through country lanes. Quite often they are being shovelled off the tarmac. Personally I have no sympathy for them at all!

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"PS...can all of the people who think it ok to drive over 100mph on any roads please mile me with the name of the roads you use so I can avoid them please?

Thanking in advance

Mile 49 on interstate 95 on the Florida Keys..."

I think I am safe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"PS...can all of the people who think it ok to drive over 100mph on any roads please mile me with the name of the roads you use so I can avoid them please?

Thanking in advance

It is perfectly OK on many roads in Germany, but to be honest you are better off avoiding them the German autobans are very bad.

OP do get a lawyer you will need one. Not going into the right and wrong stuff but I bet you a penny all those saying it's terrible have changed radio stations, driven too fast for the road conditions, eaten a chocolate bar, closed their eyes whilst sneezing, or done one of the many other common causes of accidents. But not one of them asked about the road you were caught on, it could have been empty.

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Buy a faster bike

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By *oungkent1Couple over a year ago

Kent

Get a solicitor, a good one, and your prob looking at a month at the most, best case 7 days and a large fine.

In a crash speed is never the only factor, you don't just simply crash because you are going fast, that's impossible. It's the morons that are driving slow not looking where they are going and not concentrating on what's happening around them, driving about in their own little world. Speed may be a factor, however it is very rarely the cause.

It's like when police have high speed crashes and you get all the idiots saying they were going too fast, no they wernt, they were driving down a road lit up like a Christmas tree and people still manage not to see them!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

if you Pm me there is a way round it ive use it many times and you dont have to go to court

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

no way do you get a solicitor

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By *ucyhenry69Couple over a year ago

Hampton

They should lock you up and throw away the keys.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

do you think it is okay to go 33mph above the speed limit???.........

It is for the police!

wow.... yes or no...... simple answer, don't squirm..."
No i dont mate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

'Ello ello ello' - what all this then?

Law breakers, eh??????

Give the guy a break - anyone ever broken the law or made a mistake before???? Thought not!!!

Just remember that laws are made by those pompous, corrupt politicians that you guys voted in!!

......And do they abide by there own laws? Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!

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By *am123Man over a year ago

essex chelmsford

"They should lock you up and throw away the keys."
please a bit harsh dont you think.

the speed limits in the uk are well past there sell buy date anyway, compared to what modern cars and bikes are capable of doing, esp on the motor ways the speed limit should be changed.

70 mph was designed for cars made in the 60s and 70s that took days to stop, and wernt really capable of doing those speeds safely modern cars are different.

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By *oungkent1Couple over a year ago

Kent

"They should lock you up and throw away the keys.please a bit harsh dont you think.

the speed limits in the uk are well past there sell buy date anyway, compared to what modern cars and bikes are capable of doing, esp on the motor ways the speed limit should be changed.

70 mph was designed for cars made in the 60s and 70s that took days to stop, and wernt really capable of doing those speeds safely modern cars are different."

They were made after someone got done in an AC cobra, when they were at the start if their production life if I remember correctly.

Unfortunately the driving standards in this country are far too poor for higher speed limits like in Germany. Too many people don't indicate, sit in the middle lane, and don't look at what they are doing.

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By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"They should lock you up and throw away the keys.please a bit harsh dont you think.

the speed limits in the uk are well past there sell buy date anyway, compared to what modern cars and bikes are capable of doing, esp on the motor ways the speed limit should be changed.

70 mph was designed for cars made in the 60s and 70s that took days to stop, and wernt really capable of doing those speeds safely modern cars are different."
no it wasnt 70mph was brought in during the first fuel crisis and never recinded

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hope they throw the book at you. It's people like you that kill people. Any idiot can make a bike go fast but the skill comes when you have to stop suddenly. If you want to kill yourself find a way where you don't put other people at risk. "

I'm not defending the guy, but statistics show that speed is not the most common reason for death on the road. Drink driving, drugs, and mobile phones account for more.

We don't know what time of day he was driving, and the conditions. All of which a magistrate will look at.

I am sure all of us have gone over the speed limit at some time in our lives, as it is impossible to always stick to the limit. It may not be intentional but it happens. Those who throw stones should just stop and think a little.....

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Buy a faster bike

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

do you think it is okay to go 33mph above the speed limit???.........

It is for the police!

wow.... yes or no...... simple answer, don't squirm... No i dont mate "

and in the end this is what it comes down to....

at 33mph over the speed limit, you can't really use the line "oh my foot slipped on the accelorator!".....

it is a blantant disregard for the law at that speed....

you may well pick and choose which laws you live by.... but the law doesn't....

33mph over... 33mph over.... 33mph and yet people are defending him...

maybe a dose of "reality" is what some people need.....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Idiot understand why cars and bikes are built to go so fast when you can't drive that fast on the roads anyway.

Just because it's not fast for a bike doesn't mean it's any less illegal does it??

Yes would argue that most people speed at sometime or another but when you get caught you should accept the punishment for what you did, not try and find ways to le out of it. No one forced you to drive that fast did they?? It's notsome shock that people get banned for going over 100, its widely documented.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am not a driver myself. However I have been in more than one person's car doing 100+ on the motorway; to be honest I felt safer with those drivers than being in the car with my dad, who will never go above 69 miles an hour ever and tries to religiously stay in the outside lane.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

Their lack of protective gear too

Seen a few wearing only shorts

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By *reenonionsMan over a year ago

Nr Exeter

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Get off and walk - you would go faster...

My first ban was for 3 times the limit over a quarter. It was a 40 zone....

That's was 'sedate' by later events....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

I didn't say that at all. I was making an observation based on personal experience.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They should lock you up and throw away the keys.please a bit harsh dont you think.

the speed limits in the uk are well past there sell buy date anyway, compared to what modern cars and bikes are capable of doing, esp on the motor ways the speed limit should be changed.

70 mph was designed for cars made in the 60s and 70s that took days to stop, and wernt really capable of doing those speeds safely modern cars are different.no it wasnt 70mph was brought in during the first fuel crisis and never recinded "

Erm... don't know where you got that from but it's not actually correct. Until an Autocar magazine test on an AC Cobra carried out in 1967 one Sunday morning on an almost empty M1 (when they measured it's top speed at something like 160mph!!) we did not have a maximum speed on UK roads. Autocar published the test a week or so later and it caused an outcry, and within months the then Government introduced the 70mph limit.

Previous to that, the white circle with the diagonal black bar used to mean 'no speed limit' (and you will still hear older drivers refer to that sign as meaning that). After that, it changed to 'National Speed Limit Applies' and that, as we all know, varies depending on road classification.

The speed limit during the 1973 fuel crisis was 50mph (I remember it clearly as it made no difference to my Dad, as he drove our Austin Cambridge 'stately home' at a max of 50 anyway! Lol!), and it has been imposed once again since, during a bought of very bad fogs in about 1990, but that was only for a week or so.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

So it would seem. I wonder who goes ahead and ensures there's no spillages on these empty roads or small animals ready to run in front of you.

The ambulance man who picked our son up off the road after he crashed his bike had plenty to say on the subject.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe get these speed freaks to see the damage speed can cause my taking them to a morgue

Maybe that will stop them

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

In fairness when.net brother was knocked off his bike and left with life threatening injuries including a broken.pelvis he was doing 30 mph in wet conditions when a car pulled out of a side road and hit him side on. It isn't always speed and it isn't always the biker. Driving anything at any time is a dangerous activity however you can minimise the risks.

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By *reenonionsMan over a year ago

Nr Exeter

Been there, done that and scraped bits of people off the roar including good (dead) friends.

Having served with a police authority I have seen a few things...

Too many opinions from people with little or no experience on the subject.

103 - a modest number in the right circs... Horrific in the wrong.

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By *oungkent1Couple over a year ago

Kent

"They should lock you up and throw away the keys.please a bit harsh dont you think.

the speed limits in the uk are well past there sell buy date anyway, compared to what modern cars and bikes are capable of doing, esp on the motor ways the speed limit should be changed.

Well was almost there, and seeing as it occurred many years before my birth I think I did quite well

And it's not about getting away with it, it's about using the legal system to get the best possible outcome. Nothing wrong with that, it's the way this countries legal system works, the more money you have to throw at something then the better the outcome (in most cases), however it all depends on the magistrates on the day. I got a 35 day ban and no points for double the speed limit, one of my mates got a 7 day ban for totting up points all speeding, another a 1 week ban for the same speed in the same location I was caught, but some I know have had 6 month bans for lower speeds, a lot of inconsistency!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Been there, done that and scraped bits of people off the roar including good (dead) friends.

Having served with a police authority I have seen a few things...

Too many opinions from people with little or no experience on the subject.

103 - a modest number in the right circs... Horrific in the wrong."

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By *ucsparkMan over a year ago

dudley

"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

Years back I sat in the middle of a busy road covered in blood after trying to give a biker CPR through the gap in his helmet after he came off and hit the rear wheel of a van that cut across him. He was doing thirty in a thirty zone with full leathers and a good helmet. In no way was it his fault and I had followed him and he drove very well. Took me days to wash away his blood, his family do not ever get that chance. So my point is if they die at thirty, what happens above that speed.

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By *oungkent1Couple over a year ago

Kent

"Maybe get these speed freaks to see the damage speed can cause my taking them to a morgue

Maybe that will stop them "

Speed freaks are a bit different from people who speed.

Speed freaks find the danger part appealing, wether or not they think they do, that's part of why they do what they do

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By *ysteryboatMan over a year ago

Brighton

the general opinion seems to be that the op is going to get a ban, and deserves it.

we've all done similar at some point i'm sure, but most of us don't get caught.

be happy that the magistrate can't condemn you to spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair, and take more care in future - if you're not paying enough attention to not get nabbed, you're not paying enough attention for your safety (and that of other road users).

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

I didn't say that at all. I was making an observation based on personal experience. "

I was commenting on a few different posts and didn't quote anyones

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So my point is if they die at thirty, what happens above that speed.

It's luck and location, I have crashed a motorcycle at over 200mph on a track, and walked away with minor bruising, have seen people badly injured at 20mph.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

That is sad

Yes people do die from non speed elated accidents too, no one is disputing that.

It just so happens this discussion is about speed

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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By *reenonionsMan over a year ago

Nr Exeter

"Maybe get these speed freaks to see the damage speed can cause my taking them to a morgue

Maybe that will stop them

Speed freaks are a bit different from people who speed.

Speed freaks find the danger part appealing, wether or not they think they do, that's part of why they do what they do"

For sure a ban and a fuck off fine to boot.

Depending on circs. If I was him I'd be thinking could this be custodial and if so, kiss job and current life goodbye.

Speeding is now socially and legally unacceptable - Back in the 80's, 124mph in a 60 got mr 6 points and a chunky fine. Now, you would do time... Period!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So it seems it doesn't matter what speed people go as long as they are good drivers ( I wonder who decides that ) or they are driving on an empty road as they won't crash then.

I know the point you're making, and I wouldn't wish for a moment to have to experience what you have in that instance, but even from what you have said, the cause of that accident WASN'T speed (don't mean to shout, but there's no italics on here!) - it was bad driving on the part of the van driver. Plain and simple.

People can die from being crushed by a car moving at 10mph, the inertia doing all the 'work' necessary, so should we limit cars to 10mph because of that?

I did a Speed Awareness Course about three months ago and it's really made me think about all aspects of motoring - but the one which has got home is in the name of the course: Awareness. Very few of us as drivers, are 'aware' of how we drive, how that impacts (no pun int) on others, and what effect it can have on everyone around us on the road. But our wonderful Govt appears disinterested in doing anything to increase our awareness... Plenty of money spent on telling you to put your tax return in on time. How about the same amount on driver awareness..???

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By *onboy777Man over a year ago

Newark

96 and above you have to go to court and explain why you were in so much of a rush !! I know 2 people who haven't been banned one was 117 and the other was doing 123 both on dual c/w's they got big fines though. So my advice is if you need your license for your job get your boss to write a letter saying the usual like your good character good worker etc and how much your job relies on your license get a good solicitor as well and play on you need your license for your income BUT if you manage to sway the judge in your favour make sure you don't get caught doing it again as they will think your taking the piss

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

Hehehe... Is that all ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hmmm all these negative views on speed alone. You just have to look at crash statistics for countries with roads with no speed limits and it's pretty evident that speed is never the only cause.

In Scotland anything +30mph is reported to the PF as dangerous driving and not speeding. There is a stated case of a gentleman driving at 123mph in a BMW M3 and getting off with it as in Scotland you have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt in court to get a conviction. His solicitor was able to get an expert from BMW to state that the car was bult to drive at speeds in excess of that and with the accused person being an ex stock racing driver with over 30years experience he may have broken the speed limit yet he wasn't driving dangerously.

Now before I'm shot down by all those who have been affected by horrific accidents I'm merely showing that just because someone drives at that speed doesn't make it dangerous. It's all dependant on the person behind the wheel or the bars in this case

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By *histler21Man over a year ago

Ipswich

"I got clocked at 103 on my bike, any advice welcome. (apart from slow down)

On your push bike? How'd you manage that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having spent many years of being both driver n bike rider to an advanced level, because of my then occupation have dealt with many deaths injuries involving motor vehicles of all descriptions it is very clear that there are lots of factors which are taken into consideration regarding accidents. Speed is a factor in accidents not necessarily the overiding factor. Condition of vehicle tyres etc. One of the issues with speed is reaction time of the driver, rider being unable to react to the situation as it presents itself. The speed limit is there to allow sufficient time to react and lessen the outcome if indeed an accident occurs it is a happy medium of collision - injury - outcome.

Albeit the OP has admitted his lapse in judgement and is concerned as to his fate, thankfully it did not result in an accident occurring and anybody being hurt or worse. Hopefully this is a shot across his bows and in future will act differently. We all make mistakes some minor some major hopefully lesson learnt. Whatever the outcome is of your speeding offence, take it on the chin and be thankful that you have a second chance to do things differently n if you don't take this experience and learn from it, then you do indeed deserve to be dealt with severely from both the law and your peers.

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By *bro07Man over a year ago

Teesside

isn't that slow for a bike, I've got 131 out of my car on the A1, I only did it when no other cars were around.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

These days bikes are made to be able to go at some increadible speeds. The thing is, there is a time and a place for high speed, a track not the public road. I consider the only reason to go above the speed limit on a public road is when overtaking. In a safe manner.

It is reckless riding/driving that causes accidents, but consider the combination of reckless riding and high speed, the consequences are far higher.

My personal opinion is that anyone that commits a motoring offence that warrants a ban, should be made to re take the test (as it is now) from scratch before being allowed their license back.

From someone who has ridden motorbikes. X

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