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"Will Enoch Powell be proven right and will there be a Civil war in this country at some time?" No he won't be, and no there won't be a civil war. | |||
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"Will Enoch Powell be proven right and will there be a Civil war in this country at some time?" Only if people spread fear and unrest and get people to stand behind flags of colour and religion. The reality is the vast majority in this country want to live together in peace. Thankfully there are only a few feeble minded and witless people who can be drummed up to extremism. | |||
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"I'm no racsist but the man was rite in a way he said if we didn't sort out our immigration laws we would end up with a serious problem in this country he was rite we do ave a problem " | |||
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"I happy nothing kicked off this w/end as the Press suggested, Maybe everyone is finally starting to realise most of it is started my the papers winding ppl up" Depends how you define "kicked off". Verbal and physical abuse, mosques have been defaced, people have been arrested for inciting racial hatred. EDL have had there most successful demo in years... Hardly indicative of calm? Anyone that thinks Tommy Robinson's idiot army are mourning this guys death are very, very wrong. They are revelling in being vindicated and looking to capitalize on it for their own sick agenda. And the press with how they have reacted have played right in to the far right's hands. | |||
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"I happy nothing kicked off this w/end as the Press suggested, Maybe everyone is finally starting to realise most of it is started my the papers winding ppl up Depends how you define "kicked off". Verbal and physical abuse, mosques have been defaced, people have been arrested for inciting racial hatred. EDL have had there most successful demo in years... Hardly indicative of calm? Anyone that thinks Tommy Robinson's idiot army are mourning this guys death are very, very wrong. They are revelling in being vindicated and looking to capitalize on it for their own sick agenda. And the press with how they have reacted have played right in to the far right's hands. " This. Take a look at the EDL chanting as a family grieves their son, only morons would advocate that they represent what decent people want in Britain. | |||
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"U can't blame the press for wat the goverments ave let happen over the yrs " | |||
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"U can't blame the press for wat the goverments ave let happen over the yrs " You can, because quite simply the number of people causing such controversy is actually very few, but the media portrays it quite differently in order to sensationalise the story and gives the idiots media coverage. | |||
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"I think the muslim extremists have played right into the EDL,BNP,NF's or whatever they call themselves this weeks hands. The rightwing fuckTards are rubbing their slimy little paws together. My son even said this Tommy[cant rember his last name] has a point so i asked him why he told me some statistics so i told him ok turned the stats 180` around n said their we go even i can mess with stats... The muslim imans are going crazy lately because of the resent "grooming gangs" being brought to hand they as we do want peace but the extremists on both sides of this shitty fence wont let this lie So i think the Civil war is a bit OTT but i do think their will be more blood on our streets, it wont be a river but by heck their will be more spilt.... ps my son has seen the EDL for what they are before his head got totaly turned" Just picking up on the grooming gangs comment. I read in either the independent or guardian that police are aware of around 250 gangs nationwide but lack evidence to arrest. What is scary is that only 40 or so of those are Muslim gangs andinbetween the 2 high profile Muslim court cases there has been a 3rd gang that have been convicted which wasn't reported in any tabloid. | |||
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"U can't blame the press for wat the goverments ave let happen over the yrs " Out of interest what have the governments let happen and what are the problems you mentioned in your earlier post? | |||
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"Would their governents let us go their and do the same things I think not " What "things"? | |||
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"Would their governents let us go their and do the same things I think not " Maybe we are striving to be a better society, and hoping to set examples. Constant finger pointing never resolved anything. Looking in the mirror does. | |||
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"Would their governents let us go their and do the same things I think not " no of course they wouldnt. | |||
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"I happy nothing kicked off this w/end as the Press suggested, Maybe everyone is finally starting to realise most of it is started my the papers winding ppl up Depends how you define "kicked off". Verbal and physical abuse, mosques have been defaced, people have been arrested for inciting racial hatred. EDL have had there most successful demo in years... Hardly indicative of calm? Anyone that thinks Tommy Robinson's idiot army are mourning this guys death are very, very wrong. They are revelling in being vindicated and looking to capitalize on it for their own sick agenda. And the press with how they have reacted have played right in to the far right's hands. " was more looking at the normal protest that occur then a the hangers on, who are just there to cause trouble and end up looting the shops | |||
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"I'm no racsist but the man was rite in a way he said if we didn't sort out our immigration laws we would end up with a serious problem in this country he was rite we do ave a problem " Not really - its a lot more complicated than just 'we let too many foreigners in'. | |||
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"problem we have in this country is that despite the fact there is good and bad in all races there are too many people in the country who dont lkike the english and our way of life " Yeah, they don't like our way of invading and fucking up their countries. Funny that. | |||
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"For one our guys come back from overseas nd there they are in the middle of luton saying they wanna bomb nd kill our blokes its wrong " I've been one of our guys as you put it. The people you refer to are radical idiots, not representative of any one society. Shall I deem all football fans morons based on a few causing problems ? Of course not. I have sat with many different cultures and been totally humbled by their kindness and concerned at how they feel the world perceives them to be the evil axis. Everyone wants to be loved, if not loved liked, if not liked accepted, and if not accepted they love to be hated. Make your mind up what who you'd rather share the world with...because we do share it. | |||
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"For one our guys come back from overseas nd there they are in the middle of luton saying they wanna bomb nd kill our blokes its wrong " Quite simply, they are exercising the right to free speech that exists in this country. the same right that has just allowed you to post your I'll informed views and me to tell you their I'll informed and that views like that are part of the reason there is troubleon the issue of immigration. | |||
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"problem we have in this country is that despite the fact there is good and bad in all races there are too many people in the country who dont lkike the english and our way of life i am not racist in the slightest but there are so many people who hate others that really i am not sure the best policy is to have all of us mixing together. in a ideal world yes......but this is real life and people dont all have nice vibes about them " So if you don't think we should all be mixing what do you suggest? Apartheid? Repatriation? And why is it a bad thing? Most people get along fine, it's just the extremists on each side that are the problem and They are a tiny but vocal majority | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in " Really .... Ill do one more comment I live in a area that is 85% muslim ... they are my friends and neighbours. Every Eid I get knocks on my door with food , christmas cards and Easter Eggs I see a lot of areas in England where the white british do this | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in " Out of interest are you old enough to remember pubs with signs saying "no blacks, no Irish" - integration is a 2 way process | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in " As an irishman with lots of relatives in the uk for many years know for a fact they were on the receiving end of racism and violence during the ira bombings etc. And still are called micks, paddies etc today. And not just from yobs...from bus drivers, barmen, hoteliers etc. Maybe thats why they stick to themselves ??? As a previous poster stated we share this world and until you stop labelling people as paddies, muslims, blacks, packies etc etc then you are always going to have a problem. | |||
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"we would not be able to go to pakistan and build churches..... fact not a racist comment but a fact x" Are you sure it's a fact? | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in Out of interest are you old enough to remember pubs with signs saying "no blacks, no Irish" - integration is a 2 way process" | |||
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"we would not be able to go to pakistan and build churches..... fact not a racist comment but a fact x Are you sure it's a fact? " I thought they had churches there.. | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in As an irishman with lots of relatives in the uk for many years know for a fact they were on the receiving end of racism and violence during the ira bombings etc. And still are called micks, paddies etc today. And not just from yobs...from bus drivers, barmen, hoteliers etc. Maybe thats why they stick to themselves ??? As a previous poster stated we share this world and until you stop labelling people as paddies, muslims, blacks, packies etc etc then you are always going to have a problem." yes you get called paddy or mick but is that much diff to us being called Geordies, scousers, brummies, taffy, cockney or even jock | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in As an irishman with lots of relatives in the uk for many years know for a fact they were on the receiving end of racism and violence during the ira bombings etc. And still are called micks, paddies etc today. And not just from yobs...from bus drivers, barmen, hoteliers etc. Maybe thats why they stick to themselves ??? As a previous poster stated we share this world and until you stop labelling people as paddies, muslims, blacks, packies etc etc then you are always going to have a problem. yes you get called paddy or mick but is that much diff to us being called Geordies, scousers, brummies, taffy, cockney or even jock" It does when its followed by the word cunt or used to keep you out of pubs etc. | |||
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"we would not be able to go to pakistan and build churches..... fact not a racist comment but a fact x Are you sure it's a fact? I thought they had churches there.." Yes and I do believe a lot of Europeans introduced them along with other culture's ? | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in As an irishman with lots of relatives in the uk for many years know for a fact they were on the receiving end of racism and violence during the ira bombings etc. And still are called micks, paddies etc today. And not just from yobs...from bus drivers, barmen, hoteliers etc. Maybe thats why they stick to themselves ??? As a previous poster stated we share this world and until you stop labelling people as paddies, muslims, blacks, packies etc etc then you are always going to have a problem. yes you get called paddy or mick but is that much diff to us being called Geordies, scousers, brummies, taffy, cockney or even jock It does when its followed by the word cunt or used to keep you out of pubs etc." was that back in the 70s don't think you would have them problems these days tho | |||
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"we would not be able to go to pakistan and build churches..... fact not a racist comment but a fact x" I have been into churches in both countries, built by the British. Don't dress up rascism as fact and expect intelligent people to go along with your lazy thinking. | |||
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"Of cause we should be mixin that's the problem people come here and congregate together be it muslims irish polish or chinese they stay together they do not let outsiders in As an irishman with lots of relatives in the uk for many years know for a fact they were on the receiving end of racism and violence during the ira bombings etc. And still are called micks, paddies etc today. And not just from yobs...from bus drivers, barmen, hoteliers etc. Maybe thats why they stick to themselves ??? As a previous poster stated we share this world and until you stop labelling people as paddies, muslims, blacks, packies etc etc then you are always going to have a problem. yes you get called paddy or mick but is that much diff to us being called Geordies, scousers, brummies, taffy, cockney or even jock It does when its followed by the word cunt or used to keep you out of pubs etc. was that back in the 70s don't think you would have them problems these days tho" The whole no irish in pubs thing is in the past because its illegal But i myself have been in the receiving end of this "mick cunt" thing whilst visiting over there and have relatives strewn around the uk on the receiving end of this even today. Having said that i have met more good than bad over there and do not believe it is the common attitude in britain anymore. But when something like that is said to you it does stay with you because its shocking and totally unnecessary. | |||
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"Right I'm outta here.. I think the decent folk understand already " I think the "decent folk" fully understand the lack of truth in your earlier post. | |||
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"Right I'm outta here.. I think the decent folk understand already I think the "decent folk" fully understand the lack of truth in your earlier post." ??? | |||
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"Right I'm outta here.. I think the decent folk understand already I think the "decent folk" fully understand the lack of truth in your earlier post.??? " SORRY! My bad i thought that this post was from the guy who had made the comment about churches. | |||
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"I'm no racsist but the man was rite in a way he said if we didn't sort out our immigration laws we would end up with a serious problem in this country he was rite we do ave a problem " | |||
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"Right I'm outta here.. I think the decent folk understand already I think the "decent folk" fully understand the lack of truth in your earlier post.??? SORRY! My bad i thought that this post was from the guy who had made the comment about churches. " You're welcome ...I was trying to demonstrate that many white Europeans have settled in other cultures and built Christian churches despite the gentleman's words....yours have been sensible wise words. | |||
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"i think enoch was right god help england" Over the last few hundred years england has been conquering the World. Causing mayhem for the locals in these countries. Maybe it's just the chickens coming home to roost. | |||
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"too many politicaly corect do gooders in this country." I totally agree | |||
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"too many politicaly corect do gooders in this country." Who in this thread would you say fits that description? Or is it just a lazy insult at those that don'tagree with your ideologies? | |||
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"too many politicaly corect do gooders in this country." | |||
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"too many politicaly corect do gooders in this country." Too many ignorant reactionary halfwits in this country | |||
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"I'm passionate about my country I pay my taxes so I ave every rite to say if its being fucked by the goverment or anyone else who comes here " | |||
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"I'm passionate about my country I pay my taxes so I ave every rite to say if its being fucked by the goverment or anyone else who comes here " | |||
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"I'm passionate about my country I pay my taxes so I ave every rite to say if its being fucked by the goverment or anyone else who comes here " | |||
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