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"Not a Chelsea fan but what a good result last night for Chelsea. Even tho majority of Chelsea fans didn't want Benitez got to give the bloke some credit now surely??, I'd have him as manager at leeds might even win a few games then " Well said that man Yeh will give Benitez lots fo credit and am not like the other fans that cant stand him, i think he has done a great job and credit where credit is due A MASSIVE win for us last night and we made history | |||
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"Yes to true, maybe could do a swap you can have ken bates back and we'll have abramovich " Lol that would be interesting to say the least lol ! | |||
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"Rafa is a better manager than he gets credit for. Credit to chelsea, as a te they have consistently performed without the stability of a long term manager . Rafa turned it around for them . Good to see Torres do his old boss a favour, he was on great form last night. " Rafa is a cuckoo. Climbs i will others nests to steal acclaim. The LFC team that fluked the CL was a Hollier team. When he is around long enough, he Fucks up. SAF has always said the same If he was so good, why has he been sacked by LFC and unemployed for 2 years. 1 game to go and he's gone.... good fucking riddance | |||
"Not Chelseas fault at all as its the rules but it bugs me big time that teams knocked out of the champions league get a second go in the europa league." to true couldn't agree more | |||
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"Rafa is a better manager than he gets credit for. Credit to chelsea, as a te they have consistently performed without the stability of a long term manager . Rafa turned it around for them . Good to see Torres do his old boss a favour, he was on great form last night. Rafa is a cuckoo. Climbs i will others nests to steal acclaim. The LFC team that fluked the CL was a Hollier team. When he is around long enough, he Fucks up. SAF has always said the same If he was so good, why has he been sacked by LFC and unemployed for 2 years. 1 game to go and he's gone.... good fucking riddance " So presumerably you'll completely slag off Di Matteo and say that winning the 2 cups last season had nothing to do with him. I mean he only became manager at the beginning of March, the hard work of negotiating the early stages and the first knock out parts of the Euro Cup, plus the first couple of rounds of the FA cup had been achieved by AVB. Di Matteo rode his luck in winning both the cups last season, unlike your vitriolic approach to Rafa I take nothing away from Di Matteo but if ever there was a cuckoo he was your man. Rafa's record at Anfield stands scrutiny. First off, his 2005 CL winning team certainly rode it's luck in some games, but don't kid yourself that it was anything other than Rafa's team. Key purchases like Xabi Alonso and Luis Garcia were integral to LFC winning the trophy that season, plus key tactical decisions made by Rafa that allowed a better and more expensive Chelsea team to be beaten over two legs in the semi final. Added to that was Rafa's achievement of winning the FA Cup the next season and being losing CL finalists, unluckily in my view in 2007. Despite the introduction of new owners Hicks & Gillette who had appeared to be cash rich, but that soon became apparant that they were assett strippers with no money, Rafa went on to take LFC to there highest league points tally in modern times, falling from a LFC fans point of view agonisingly short of Man U by 4 points. By this time, the ownership of the club was in so much trouble that it was impossible for anybody to manage the club as it drifted through a season having had to sell key players without recruitment to pay loan debts. Rafa in the end became a victim of this process leading to his sacking in the summer of 2010 ultimately being replaced by Roy Hodgeson whom found the problems at LFC way too hot to handle. Rafa's legacy at Anfield was he completely reorganised the youth set up and left gems waiting to be grown and nurtured, the likes of Raheem Sterling, Martin Kelly, Andre Wisdom and other names you'll become familiar with together with developing and growing players like Lucas. Unfortunately for you, you were never able to take off your blinkered view of Rafa and choose to call him names and other such things to suit your own agenda. If you looked properly you'd see that you have had a fine manager who picked up the mess theat Di Matteo left behind, sorted out your league form, successfully managed your team to a Europa League win and managed to make several of your players perform better while handling the issue that is John Terry, a guy who many outside of Chelsea and some of the key management team within Chelsea believes has overstepped his job role and damaged several previous managers in the past. You and others have posted threads in the past stating get behind the English team in Europe and yet you don't have the good grace to see that Rafa Benetiz has done your club proud despite the legions of people with bigotted views of him like yourself. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Mourinho as he has a hard act to follow, and he's been outwitted by Rafa many times in the past. | |||
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"The Rafa Benetiz fact file at Chelsea. FACT: Rafa Benitez’s record as Chelsea manager: P47, W27, D10, L10, Win 57.45%. FACT: Roberto Di Matteo’s record as Chelsea manager: P42, W24, D9, L9, Win 57.14%. FACT: Benitez took over a team with two wins in eight games. A team with massive defensive problems. A team all but out of the Champions League and at risk not just of missing the top four but plummeting out of the Premier League’s leading six. FACT: Benitez has guided them to relatively comfortable Champions League qualification and a Europa League Cup Win. FACT: A manager derided for his dry, defensive football has got Chelsea playing arguably the most thrilling, technical football anywhere in England. Yes he has superb players, but he has let them express themselves. More than you can say about Jose Mourinho with Joe Cole or Arjen Robben. FACT: He juggled a hellish fixture list that included runs in the Club World Cup, League Cup, FA Cup and Europa League. And he won the one he most realistically could win. FACT: He has got playing Fernando Torres playing more like his old self. Not quite back to his best, but certainly better than any time since 2009/10 when his manager was... oh! Rafa Benitez! FACT: At a time when the club - not Benitez, the club - staunchly refused to offer Frank Lampard a new contract, Benitez coaxed enough fine performances from the old stager to make him the club's all-time top scorer. Imagine the adulation Mourinho would get for this. FACT: He did what no England manager has done and eased John Terry out of his first XI in a quiet, fuss-free manner - very definitely relegating his captain but giving him just enough matches to avoid uproar. Quite a feat. FACT: He did all of this saddled with a ludicrous 'interim' tag devised by a club bold enough to appoint him but too timid to offer full-throated backing. FACT: Despite his title pulling the rug from underneath him, Benitez has lasted - in terms of matches - longer than Luiz Felipe Scolari, Guus Hiddink, Andre Villa-Boas and Di Matteo. In Chelsea terms, two-thirds of a season is positively Fergie-esque. FACT: He received little public backing from the players, who have been happy to speculate openly about Mourinho’s return in recent weeks,. FACT: The fans never accepted him. FACT: Scratch that. They hated him. Still do. A visceral, personal loathing cascading from the stands from his first game. FACT: The A4 ‘Rafa Out!’ banners might have gone but the ill will remains. Every match features a chorus of ‘F*** off Benitez, you’re not wanted here.’ FACT: Benitez suffered a 'meltdown' in February when he criticised the board and the fans. Unwise, perhaps, but it takes some restraint to restrict yourself to one rant when your own fans tell you to f*** off every three days. FACT: There’s no doubting the fervour of the fans’ feelings, but it's hard to understand exactly why they despise him so. It’s true, for a spell during the mid-noughties he was the anti-Mourinho in a series of fractious Liverpool-Chelsea battles. But ultimately his crimes boil down to a remark about plastic flags and another quote widely attributed to him but actually made up by a Czech kid on Twitter. FACT: Even on Tuesday, in his press conference before a major European final, he was asked if his time at Chelsea might have been different if he had apologised. Apologise? For what? For defending Liverpool as Liverpool manager? He was supposed to bow down to the people telling him to f*** off and let them know how very sorry he was for making a solitary comment about flags when in charge of a rival club? FACT: Rafa Benitez took a team in danger of spiralling out of control and put them back on the straight and narrow. He may not have been the man for the long term, but as a quick fix he was ideal. Much as he should never have been labelled as such, he actually fulfilled the brief of an interim manager to perfection. " Not bad for a manager who profits from the success of others. | |||
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