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When streaming took off - Destroyed the monoculture. Made everything niche.
Now theirs only like 5 mainstream artists of this era. The rest you’ve never heard of.
And the 2010s & 2020s will not be remembered for any particular defining sound or style.
Where are the new urban youth tribes?
Where are the new genres & music scenes?
…I’m gonna get off my high horse now
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It depends on what you are looking for. I myself have found amazing singers/ groups on various platforms. But I'm into people who are extraordinary, who have a mastery over their voice, unfortunately this discounts 90% of mainstream music for me. |
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"It is surprising that more people don't know that this day in history was called
The Day the Music Died.
It always a sad loss and in one case because of a coin toss.
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Exactly,Buddy Holly, ritche Valens and the big bopper.
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"When streaming took off - Destroyed the monoculture. Made everything niche.
Now theirs only like 5 mainstream artists of this era. The rest you’ve never heard of.
And the 2010s & 2020s will not be remembered for any particular defining sound or style.
Where are the new urban youth tribes?
Where are the new genres & music scenes?
…I’m gonna get off my high horse now
"
Yeah streaming has caused a massive shift in how music is consumed and promoted. The result for me is that I struggle to find good quality new music and suspect that's the same for a lot of people.
But then kids today know no different and seem to find stuff they like, so not sure it means music has died, just changed for some of us oldies. |
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"When streaming took off - Destroyed the monoculture. Made everything niche.
Now theirs only like 5 mainstream artists of this era. The rest you’ve never heard of.
And the 2010s & 2020s will not be remembered for any particular defining sound or style.
Where are the new urban youth tribes?
Where are the new genres & music scenes?
…I’m gonna get off my high horse now
Yeah streaming has caused a massive shift in how music is consumed and promoted. The result for me is that I struggle to find good quality new music and suspect that's the same for a lot of people.
But then kids today know no different and seem to find stuff they like, so not sure it means music has died, just changed for some of us oldies. "
I am not taking about the music sense of today, I am taking about the tragic event that occurred today 1959.
Which is why today is called the day the music died. |
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While the plane crash was tragic, music will always endure.
I saw somewhere that people tend to stop discovering new music in their 30s. I didn't want to be one of those people so I've made a point of looking at new artists and looking up ones I'd only heard of back in the day.
It's been a pretty great journey of discovery that has gone hand in hand with my own pretty seismic life changes.
I'm not overly consumed, like, I'm not interested in what sandwich the sound producer was eating while they were laying down so-and-so's album track 4, but I've got a growing playlist of stuff that speaks to the new me. |
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"Possibly two of the three wouldn't have had careers into the 1960s
Tragic though it was it possibly preserved their memory far longer than if they had lived. "
I don't know 22-year-old Buddy Holly, 17-year Ritchie Valens where still young enough to adapt to a changing in music scene.
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"Possibly two of the three wouldn't have had careers into the 1960s
Tragic though it was it possibly preserved their memory far longer than if they had lived.
I don't know 22-year-old Buddy Holly, 17-year Ritchie Valens where still young enough to adapt to a changing in music scene.
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Talented enough ?
Buddy Holly possibly |
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"Possibly two of the three wouldn't have had careers into the 1960s
Tragic though it was it possibly preserved their memory far longer than if they had lived.
I don't know 22-year-old Buddy Holly, 17-year Ritchie Valens where still young enough to adapt to a changing in music scene.
Talented enough ?
Buddy Holly possibly "
He was a singer, songwriter and musician, some of his songs are still being covered today.
Most people have heard a version of "Everyday" |
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"Possibly two of the three wouldn't have had careers into the 1960s
Tragic though it was it possibly preserved their memory far longer than if they had lived.
I don't know 22-year-old Buddy Holly, 17-year Ritchie Valens where still young enough to adapt to a changing in music scene.
Talented enough ?
Buddy Holly possibly
He was a singer, songwriter and musician, some of his songs are still being covered today.
Most people have heard a version of "Everyday" "
If you read up on him he was a major influence on people like Bob Dylan, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, the Hollies, Elvis Costello, Bruce Springsteen and Elton John to name but a few. |
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"Possibly two of the three wouldn't have had careers into the 1960s
Tragic though it was it possibly preserved their memory far longer than if they had lived.
I don't know 22-year-old Buddy Holly, 17-year Ritchie Valens where still young enough to adapt to a changing in music scene.
Talented enough ?
Buddy Holly possibly
He was a singer, songwriter and musician, some of his songs are still being covered today.
Most people have heard a version of "Everyday"
If you read up on him he was a major influence on people like Bob Dylan, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, the Hollies, Elvis Costello, Bruce Springsteen and Elton John to name but a few."
Yet he died so young, we will never know what others influence he could have had.
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"RIP to buddy and the others
To those who think there is no new good music, you're obviously clueless. "
Again this is not a thread about the music sense of today.
I agree that like every generation before and every generation after their is going to be music that people like and the old folk are not going to like it. |
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"It is surprising that more people don't know that this day in history was called
The Day the Music Died.
It always a sad loss and in one case because of a coin toss.
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It's something I know about very well. Buddy remains one of my favourite artists. |
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"16th August 1977.
The King "
The Day The Music Died was 3rd Feb, 1959, when a small privately owned plane crashed into a field in Iowa. The dead were Charles Hardin Holley (aka Buddy Holly), Ritchie Valens, J.P. Richardson (aka The Big Bopper), and Roger Petersen (pilot). This event is the one referenced in the song by Don MacLean much later. |
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But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died |
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"It never died. If the statement being made here is that there's no good music being made anymore, then you're wrong. You'll find good music from every year, you just have to go looking for it."
I think the statement being made here is remembrance to the deaths ‘On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and "The Big Bopper" J. P. Richardson were all killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, together with pilot Roger Peterson.[a][1][2] The event became known as "The Day the Music Died" after singer-songwriter Don McLean referred to it as such in his 1971 song "American Pie".’ From wiki
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"My karaoke song - not the 15 min long version 😬
If you are referring to the song American pie do you know what that song is referring to."
There’s a documentary called ‘The day the music died’ which McLean explains it… |
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"Just a moment in time!
Music lives on and always will
Seek and ye shall find"
But it doesn't stop people giving tribute to those of that have gone, especially ones so young and in tragic circumstances. |
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"Just a moment in time!
Music lives on and always will
Seek and ye shall find
But it doesn't stop people giving tribute to those of that have gone, especially ones so young and in tragic circumstances. "
Oh I agree, and some just victims of their own sucess |
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"Anyone who says that the music died for their generation has just stopped listening.
As music never dies you just need an open ear as new is just as good as the old."
The event in question happened in 1959, before my own mother was born. I don't think it's anything to do with a current generation. It's a term used to refer to the fact three significant musicians of the period died on the same day. Buddy Holly has a long list of credit and influence on modern music writing, recording and production. Had he lived longer, who knows what else he might have achieved? |
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"Anyone who says that the music died for their generation has just stopped listening.
As music never dies you just need an open ear as new is just as good as the old.
The event in question happened in 1959, before my own mother was born. I don't think it's anything to do with a current generation. It's a term used to refer to the fact three significant musicians of the period died on the same day. Buddy Holly has a long list of credit and influence on modern music writing, recording and production. Had he lived longer, who knows what else he might have achieved? "
I agree every for every generation there is what you could say the day music took a loss, for me it was when Freddie Mercury past for others it was David Bowie or John Lennon. But they had a good carer before there tragic departure.
Buddy Holly was only 22, Ritchie Valens was 17. So much talent and potential loss.
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!  "
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG. |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG."
Ah thanks for the clarification.  |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification. "
This is one of my Mastermind topics |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
This is one of my Mastermind topics "
Do you know which future famous musician was meant to be on the Holly planet but gave up his seat ? |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
This is one of my Mastermind topics
Do you know which future famous musician was meant to be on the Holly planet but gave up his seat ?"
Planet? No. Plane? Yes. Tommy Allsup won the coin toss that put Ritchie Valens on there. |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
This is one of my Mastermind topics
Do you know which future famous musician was meant to be on the Holly planet but gave up his seat ?
Planet? No. Plane? Yes. Tommy Allsup won the coin toss that put Ritchie Valens on there. "
Yes, plane ! And there's another one. Future country superstar Waylon Jennings gave his seat to the Big Bopper. He was close friends with Holly. |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
This is one of my Mastermind topics
Do you know which future famous musician was meant to be on the Holly planet but gave up his seat ?
Planet? No. Plane? Yes. Tommy Allsup won the coin toss that put Ritchie Valens on there.
Yes, plane ! And there's another one. Future country superstar Waylon Jennings gave his seat to the Big Bopper. He was close friends with Holly."
Yep, JP Richardson was ill and asked Jennings for his seat. |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
This is one of my Mastermind topics
Do you know which future famous musician was meant to be on the Holly planet but gave up his seat ?
Planet? No. Plane? Yes. Tommy Allsup won the coin toss that put Ritchie Valens on there.
Yes, plane ! And there's another one. Future country superstar Waylon Jennings gave his seat to the Big Bopper. He was close friends with Holly."
I think Waylon was playing bass for buddy at the time, |
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"It never died. If the statement being made here is that there's no good music being made anymore, then you're wrong. You'll find good music from every year, you just have to go looking for it.
I think the statement being made here is remembrance to the deaths ‘On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and "The Big Bopper" J. P. Richardson were all killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, together with pilot Roger Peterson.[a][1][2] The event became known as "The Day the Music Died" after singer-songwriter Don McLean referred to it as such in his 1971 song "American Pie".’ From wiki
RIP"
Was not aware of the reference, thanks for explaining it. |
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"It never died. If the statement being made here is that there's no good music being made anymore, then you're wrong. You'll find good music from every year, you just have to go looking for it.
I think the statement being made here is remembrance to the deaths ‘On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and "The Big Bopper" J. P. Richardson were all killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, together with pilot Roger Peterson.[a][1][2] The event became known as "The Day the Music Died" after singer-songwriter Don McLean referred to it as such in his 1971 song "American Pie".’ From wiki
RIP"
And on February 3rd 1967, the legendary producer but sadly tortured genius Joe Meek killed himself after taking the life of his landlady.
If you've not heard of him, you WILL have heard of the three No. 1 singles he produced, namely John Leyton's "Johnny, Remember Me", "Have I The Right ?" by The Honeycombs, and most famously of all (and in my opinion the finest instrumental to top the charts), "Telstar" by The Tornados. However, he did also reject the offer from Brian Epstein to produce The Beatles !
If you're ever in the Holloway Road in North London, look for no. 304 (now a convenience store), it was in his flat above the shop that these and many other records of the early 1960's were recorded. Plaque on the wall and bench opposite commemorating his work, along with a mural opposite Holloway Road tube station. |
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"Paul McCartney bought the rights to all Buddy Holly's songs years ago. He advised Michael Jackson to invest in music publishing and Jacko then bought all the Beatles songs behind his back!
McCartney only has the publishing rights. The copyright to the songs themselves were held by his widow until 2015, when she passed them onto BMG.
Ah thanks for the clarification.
This is one of my Mastermind topics
Do you know which future famous musician was meant to be on the Holly planet but gave up his seat ?
Planet? No. Plane? Yes. Tommy Allsup won the coin toss that put Ritchie Valens on there.
Yes, plane ! And there's another one. Future country superstar Waylon Jennings gave his seat to the Big Bopper. He was close friends with Holly. I think Waylon was playing bass for buddy at the time, "
He was Bill. He didn't play for about five years after the crash. |
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"When streaming took off - Destroyed the monoculture. Made everything niche.
Now theirs only like 5 mainstream artists of this era. The rest you’ve never heard of.
And the 2010s & 2020s will not be remembered for any particular defining sound or style.
Where are the new urban youth tribes?
Where are the new genres & music scenes?
…I’m gonna get off my high horse now
Yeah streaming has caused a massive shift in how music is consumed and promoted. The result for me is that I struggle to find good quality new music and suspect that's the same for a lot of people.
But then kids today know no different and seem to find stuff they like, so not sure it means music has died, just changed for some of us oldies.
I am not taking about the music sense of today, I am taking about the tragic event that occurred today 1959.
Which is why today is called the day the music died."
Well you should’ve made that clear with your original post. Coz if you look at the subsequent replies…ONLY A FEW PEOPLE GOT THAT |
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"When streaming took off - Destroyed the monoculture. Made everything niche.
Now theirs only like 5 mainstream artists of this era. The rest you’ve never heard of.
And the 2010s & 2020s will not be remembered for any particular defining sound or style.
Where are the new urban youth tribes?
Where are the new genres & music scenes?
…I’m gonna get off my high horse now
Yeah streaming has caused a massive shift in how music is consumed and promoted. The result for me is that I struggle to find good quality new music and suspect that's the same for a lot of people.
But then kids today know no different and seem to find stuff they like, so not sure it means music has died, just changed for some of us oldies.
I am not taking about the music sense of today, I am taking about the tragic event that occurred today 1959.
Which is why today is called the day the music died.
Well you should’ve made that clear with your original post. Coz if you look at the subsequent replies…ONLY A FEW PEOPLE GOT THAT"
If you know, you know. Like a lot of threads. I think it's good to keep Buddy, Ritchie and JP's memory alive by sharing about what happened. |
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Remember hearing the song on first release, brings back memories.
Buddy often played along with Elvis and all the other 50's rockers in our house from way back.
I often think how a psychedelic Buddy would have sounded. He probably would have gone along with Chucks route and stuck to his rock n roll guns.
Richie and Bopper too.
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