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By *rtyIanMan 1 week ago
Gateway to the Beacons |
"Old Punks
Reveal yourselves  "
Got suspended from school for cutting my own hair into a mohawk and dying it orange with stuff from my chemistry set lol, in hindsight not the brightest thing to do |
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By *end1Man 1 week ago
southend on sea |
Great days back then no social media. I was a skin/punk got stopped by the police for wearing a Adolf Hitler European tour tshirt! Bank holidays were fun times. We had identity back then punks. skins. Scooter boys. Mods. Now almost everyone dresses the same hoodies and joggers 😊 |
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With the greatest of respect, and no offence intended...
Even the oldest of the previous posters was still only 8 years old when Never Mind The Bollocks came out.
Old punks? In spirit, maybe, but you weren't there. |
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"With the greatest of respect, and no offence intended...
Even the oldest of the previous posters was still only 8 years old when Never Mind The Bollocks came out.
Old punks? In spirit, maybe, but you weren't there."
Agreed Colin .. kinda what I said in my post … yes I missed the ‘first wave’ but still managed to see many great punk bands in the early 80’s |
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"With the greatest of respect, and no offence intended...
Even the oldest of the previous posters was still only 8 years old when Never Mind The Bollocks came out.
Old punks? In spirit, maybe, but you weren't there."
Thing is punk didn't start and end with Sex Pistols, so if you weren't wherever "there" was in 76/77 it doesn't mean you couldn't be a punk. There are still young kids today forming bands and playing various form of punk music. |
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"With the greatest of respect, and no offence intended...
Even the oldest of the previous posters was still only 8 years old when Never Mind The Bollocks came out.
Old punks? In spirit, maybe, but you weren't there.
Thing is punk didn't start and end with Sex Pistols, so if you weren't wherever "there" was in 76/77 it doesn't mean you couldn't be a punk. There are still young kids today forming bands and playing various form of punk music.
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I could put on a kaftan, light the joss sticks, and listen to Jefferson Airplane all day, but I'd still be too young to have been a real hippy. |
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"With the greatest of respect, and no offence intended...
Even the oldest of the previous posters was still only 8 years old when Never Mind The Bollocks came out.
Old punks? In spirit, maybe, but you weren't there."
I was 11 in 77..I bought my first record..sex pistols.. holidays in the sun then..I probably don't qualify as a proper old punk..as I never went down the Roxy..saw the 100 club punk fest..but I probably have some old punk credentials..😹 |
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As a teen was in a garage band in the 70's and we were called Sacha Distilled, we put 2 1/2 songs together then broke up due to the owner of the garage (mates dad) needing the space for his Ford Cortina.
Also smashing our instruments was not economical viable especially when our earning power was nil.
I liked the way Tartan went from Rod Stewart to Bay city Rollers to Punk. |
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I wasn't born when the stooges released i wanna be your dog. I was born in 1973 - the year they released "Raw power". I was 3 in 1976 when the sex pistols exploded but by the age of 7 I was listening to Adam and the ants. By 10 I was into the Damned and minor threat. 13 was a spikey haired punkette. Punk is not about gatekeeping for me. It's about the enjoyment you get from it. Anger is an energy and all that. However,I'm still waiting for those 2 pints of Lager and a packet of crisps please!!!!!!!! |
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I was more new wave than punk but saw most of the bands in the late 79s and early 80s. Fave bands were probably The Clash, Joy Division, The Jam and the Only Ones, fave venues probably the Marquee and Sunday nights at the Lyceum. Also heavily into reggae at the same time, there seemed to be a big crossover with punk and new wave. Happy days! |
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One of my friends was into most music. So, I grew up with a smattering of of all types of weird & wonderful, ringing in my ears from around 1978.
For me Blondie was, and still is, my favourite.
As punk was dying out in the UK, around 1988. I moved to S.Africa and was surprised to see punk in it's infancy, in a new country. |
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Had a mini phase in the early 80s, bleach white spiky hair, a few ear piercings, skin tight black jeans, docks white suit jacket with a Sex Pistols T-shirt underneath…. That was quite rebellious, it’s a pretty normal teenager nowadays. 😂 |
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Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name! |
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Great times, got into it in 78, still at school, saw most of the bands at the vic hall, stoke … 1st where the boomtown rats and the last was the pistol’s reunion at Brixton Apollo … saw some excellent bands over those first 12 months, along with quite a bit of mither lol |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name! "
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another. |
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By *lex46TV/TS 1 week ago
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I’m 60 so I was 13 in 1977. I missed the early days but loved The Buzzcocks and The Undertones. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve seen them live although now The Buzzcocks is just Steve Diggle.
I still have my original Never mind the Bollocks album signed by Johnny Rotten. |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name!
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another."
Death Metal is named after an 80s metal band called Death ....Brilliant they were |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name!
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another.
Death Metal is named after an 80s metal band called Death ....Brilliant they were"
I love how music genres were born of each other. I've alway thought that punk and hip hop were spawned from the same ideology snd inspired each other |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name!
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another.
Death Metal is named after an 80s metal band called Death ....Brilliant they were
I love how music genres were born of each other. I've alway thought that punk and hip hop were spawned from the same ideology snd inspired each other "
I try not to get negative about today’s music and always looking for new bands and artists but it’s nothing like the 80s is it?
We had things like punk, thrash and death metal , New York new wave scene, 1st Ska Revival/2-Tone Records, punk and reggae was fusing & Malcolm McLaren who invented the sex pistols was importing Rap & Breakdance into the UK from New York. I remember seeing pirate copies of Electro 1 on cassette for sale on markets |
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"I’m 60 so I was 13 in 1977. I missed the early days but loved The Buzzcocks and The Undertones. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve seen them live although now The Buzzcocks is just Steve Diggle.
I still have my original Never mind the Bollocks album signed by Johnny Rotten."
Love the Buzzcocks - so many anthems. |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name!
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another.
Death Metal is named after an 80s metal band called Death ....Brilliant they were"
Yes! The bizarre thing is Death from Detroit created "punk rock" in the early 1970's and Death from Florida created "death metal" in the late 80's and both genres are still going fine. |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name!
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another.
Death Metal is named after an 80s metal band called Death ....Brilliant they were
Yes! The bizarre thing is Death from Detroit created "punk rock" in the early 1970's and Death from Florida created "death metal" in the late 80's and both genres are still going fine. "
If you want to have this who created punk rock thing... (which is always fuckin ridiculous because it doesn't really matter.. it's like who created rock and roll..)..you should probably check out nuggets..back from the grave and various other 60s garage delights.. there's plenty of bands on those that lit the torch... |
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"Death - a 3 piece from Detroit formed in the early 70's invented (for want of a better word) what we now think of as "punk".
Sure The Stooges and MC5 laid the foundation but they were garage rock really. New York Dolls were a glam rock band, they just couldn't play quite as well as other more accomplished bands.
But, yeah, if you want to hear where it all started before Ramones and Pistols and Damned etc... check out Death
PS - if searching don't confuse them with the Floridian death metal pioneers of the same name!
Death started off as a funk band and was inspired by other rock bands to head off in a more heavier direction. They evolved just like the stooges did from one thing to another.
Death Metal is named after an 80s metal band called Death ....Brilliant they were
Yes! The bizarre thing is Death from Detroit created "punk rock" in the early 1970's and Death from Florida created "death metal" in the late 80's and both genres are still going fine.
If you want to have this who created punk rock thing... (which is always fuckin ridiculous because it doesn't really matter.. it's like who created rock and roll..)..you should probably check out nuggets..back from the grave and various other 60s garage delights.. there's plenty of bands on those that lit the torch..."
Absolutely! Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course. Like you say it really doesn't matter.
My fave of all is The Nile Song by Pink Floyd - is that the first "grunge" song??? Or maybe call it "punk rock" even??? Its louder and more raucous than what had gone before, that's for sure.
I always think the inference for any fellow music geeks reading is that the two Death bands are "fully formed" in their respective sounds as opposed to being an influence as such.
It fascinates me though! |
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"With the greatest of respect, and no offence intended...
Even the oldest of the previous posters was still only 8 years old when Never Mind The Bollocks came out.
With the greatest respect I was 12 when that came out and by 1980 aged 15 I had my first band. I've played in bands ever since.
I'm not into mohawks, studded leather and bandage straps anymore obviously but that punk spirit and hatred of authority has never ever gone away.
Old punks? In spirit, maybe, but you weren't there."
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I was too young to be a grown up punk, but I was had a rebellious spirit and embraced the anarchy. However I was more into ska and the style of clothes.
The village I lived in was very slow in catching up with the latest trends so yes I agree with the identity thing you had to be something it was the thing back then even tho it was outdated many Mods still on the scene a few rockers, punk's, skins but thing's evolved into new wave electronic pop.
Punk ere was short lived but it definitely shaped pop culture in a way few genres have done and still lasts to this day.
Babylon's Burning....... |
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Just caught tail end of first wave fully rode the 2nd wave particularly oi in early 80’s exploited discharge the 4skins infa riot the rejects a favourite was a local band vice squad adored the lead singer |
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"Best punk song ever??"
Far too many geat songs to choose one, and if I did I'd change my mind tomorrow. White Man In Hammersmith Palais by The Clash springs to mind, but then The Serenade Is Dead by Conflict has as well. Need to go and listen to both now. |
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I'm a bit younger but my old man was an old skin, I went to see the specials a few times, bad manners etc
Love the Clash, London calling being a favourite and Pete Townshend - White city fighting
"All you punks and all you teds
National Front and natty dreads
Mods, rockers, hippies and skinheads
Keep on fighting 'til you're dead" |
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"Best punk song ever??"
One is anti social by skrewdriver...but you'll never find it on any punk compilations today..as they went on to be a white power band..but in 1977 they had a couple of singles and an album on Chiswick records and even a John peel session..anti social has everything you want from a great punk song.. there's a whole host of others to..but it's definitely a song to add to a great punk songs album... |
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"Late 80s early 90s Thrash and Death metal head  "
Same here.
Saw the pistols at a festival in 92 along with a tin of other bands, everything from skunk anansie, Bowie to bjork & massive attack.
No, I wasn't there, but punk, ska, etc holds a good place in my heart. |
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By *ild_oatsMan 6 days ago
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You are never too old to rock regardless of genre.
New bands are just as good and exciting as the old ones.
Might not crowd surf anymore but still will be in the mix though a few more rows back now.
It’s the kids turn to be up at the front. |
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By *ild_oatsMan 6 days ago
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"In my experience.. the folk who bang on about being real punks have never bought a record since 1980.
They might go to see SLF once a year"
Exactly.
I’m really not interested in seeing bands long past their prime. Trotting out the same old stuff to the same old audiences trying desperately to replicate their youth.
I would rather go and see a new up and coming new band or artist. Might raise the average age of the audience but that way you are not living in the past. |
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"In my experience.. the folk who bang on about being real punks have never bought a record since 1980.
They might go to see SLF once a year
Exactly.
I’m really not interested in seeing bands long past their prime. Trotting out the same old stuff to the same old audiences trying desperately to replicate their youth.
I would rather go and see a new up and coming new band or artist. Might raise the average age of the audience but that way you are not living in the past."
I don't think old bands are trying to replicate their youth ( well, maybe some are) but everyone needs to earn a living so playing in a band has got to be better than getting up for graft at 6 in the morning.
I go to loads of gigs and the vast majority of people that have their night out at The Damned or SLF are never seen at smaller gigs watching new punk bands. |
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By *ild_oatsMan 6 days ago
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"In my experience.. the folk who bang on about being real punks have never bought a record since 1980.
They might go to see SLF once a year
Exactly.
I’m really not interested in seeing bands long past their prime. Trotting out the same old stuff to the same old audiences trying desperately to replicate their youth.
I would rather go and see a new up and coming new band or artist. Might raise the average age of the audience but that way you are not living in the past.
I don't think old bands are trying to replicate their youth ( well, maybe some are) but everyone needs to earn a living so playing in a band has got to be better than getting up for graft at 6 in the morning.
I go to loads of gigs and the vast majority of people that have their night out at The Damned or SLF are never seen at smaller gigs watching new punk bands. "
Your last statement was really what I was referring too… as in the audience trying to relive their youth… But if they have had a good night out then that’s good.
I’ve spoken to several people of my age who go to the likes of SLF, etc and the common thread is that the really don’t listen to anything or anyone new let alone go to a gig by a new band or artist.
I sometimes think am I the one who has never grown up as I’m always listening and getting excited about new music.
I wish I was musical and could play in a band.
But I am freelance who works from home so work when I want and for who I want …. Maybe I am punk after all. |
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"In my experience.. the folk who bang on about being real punks have never bought a record since 1980.
They might go to see SLF once a year
Exactly.
I’m really not interested in seeing bands long past their prime. Trotting out the same old stuff to the same old audiences trying desperately to replicate their youth.
I would rather go and see a new up and coming new band or artist. Might raise the average age of the audience but that way you are not living in the past.
I don't think old bands are trying to replicate their youth ( well, maybe some are) but everyone needs to earn a living so playing in a band has got to be better than getting up for graft at 6 in the morning.
I go to loads of gigs and the vast majority of people that have their night out at The Damned or SLF are never seen at smaller gigs watching new punk bands.
Your last statement was really what I was referring too… as in the audience trying to relive their youth… But if they have had a good night out then that’s good.
I’ve spoken to several people of my age who go to the likes of SLF, etc and the common thread is that the really don’t listen to anything or anyone new let alone go to a gig by a new band or artist.
I sometimes think am I the one who has never grown up as I’m always listening and getting excited about new music.
I wish I was musical and could play in a band.
But I am freelance who works from home so work when I want and for who I want …. Maybe I am punk after all."
You can't beat finding a new band that are just great. Whether it's a bunch of kids starting out or an old band that you've never heard before.
The Damned, Pistols and Clash are all great but a lot of good stuff has come out since we were kids |
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By *ild_oatsMan 6 days ago
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"In my experience.. the folk who bang on about being real punks have never bought a record since 1980.
They might go to see SLF once a year
Exactly.
I’m really not interested in seeing bands long past their prime. Trotting out the same old stuff to the same old audiences trying desperately to replicate their youth.
I would rather go and see a new up and coming new band or artist. Might raise the average age of the audience but that way you are not living in the past.
I don't think old bands are trying to replicate their youth ( well, maybe some are) but everyone needs to earn a living so playing in a band has got to be better than getting up for graft at 6 in the morning.
I go to loads of gigs and the vast majority of people that have their night out at The Damned or SLF are never seen at smaller gigs watching new punk bands.
Your last statement was really what I was referring too… as in the audience trying to relive their youth… But if they have had a good night out then that’s good.
I’ve spoken to several people of my age who go to the likes of SLF, etc and the common thread is that the really don’t listen to anything or anyone new let alone go to a gig by a new band or artist.
I sometimes think am I the one who has never grown up as I’m always listening and getting excited about new music.
I wish I was musical and could play in a band.
But I am freelance who works from home so work when I want and for who I want …. Maybe I am punk after all.
You can't beat finding a new band that are just great. Whether it's a bunch of kids starting out or an old band that you've never heard before.
The Damned, Pistols and Clash are all great but a lot of good stuff has come out since we were kids "
Totally agree …. Was at a gig last night with a band that have not long released their 2nd album. Raised the average age of the audience. |
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"If you're into old punk, new punk or any spins off musical genres check out the gigs on at the new cross inn in London. So many great bands playing at that venue. "
unfortunately a lot of punks are like cabbies...they don't go south of the river..😹 |
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Fun fact.
I purchased a second hand Sierra estate almost 30 years ago the guy who I brought it off was one the drummers for stiff little fingers .
Didn't seem like he was doing too well as the car was a piece of crap. |
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"Fun fact.
I purchased a second hand Sierra estate almost 30 years ago the guy who I brought it off was one the drummers for stiff little fingers .
Didn't seem like he was doing too well as the car was a piece of crap."
Poverty is the hallmark of a successful punk |
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"If you're into old punk, new punk or any spins off musical genres check out the gigs on at the new cross inn in London. So many great bands playing at that venue.
unfortunately a lot of punks are like cabbies...they don't go south of the river..😹"
I though that's where they lived these days. Anytime I'm in new cross it's like time has frozen for 30 years |
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"If you're into old punk, new punk or any spins off musical genres check out the gigs on at the new cross inn in London. So many great bands playing at that venue.
unfortunately a lot of punks are like cabbies...they don't go south of the river..😹
I though that's where they lived these days. Anytime I'm in new cross it's like time has frozen for 30 years"
I don't think gentrification has reached there yet... which is good.. because soon as it does I think the new cross Inn will be history.. |
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"If you're into old punk, new punk or any spins off musical genres check out the gigs on at the new cross inn in London. So many great bands playing at that venue.
unfortunately a lot of punks are like cabbies...they don't go south of the river..😹
I though that's where they lived these days. Anytime I'm in new cross it's like time has frozen for 30 years
I don't think gentrification has reached there yet... which is good.. because soon as it does I think the new cross Inn will be history.."
I'm hoping we've got a good few years before then but no doubt it's heading that way. The dew drop inn has gone. Hopefully the birds nest, the Amersham arms and the debauched lord Clyde will continue to survive. As a North London lass I do like my trips to sarfff london |
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By *ild_oatsMan 6 days ago
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Punk is really more about attitude, sticking to your beliefs and identity no matter what people think.
Punk embraces a DIY ethic with anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian theme.
Not necessarily any particular band, artist, hair style or clothing. |
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