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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

using unmarked cars ,your thoughts please .

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By *elix SightedMan 2 weeks ago

Cloud 8

Same as anything - if you don’t wanna get busted for breaking the law, don’t break the law. If you speed (and I do) be prepared to get caught and don’t whine about it.

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By *ophie_GTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Gainsborough

What's the problem?

They've got a job to do so the only time you've got to worry is if you're doing something wrong or driving like an idiot

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

Least said soonest mended...

That being said, I guess there is a job they need to do. I just wish they'd go after actual criminals and stop penalising the soft targets that help their stats.

Oh, and their arrogance is laughable... "Nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!"

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Same as anything - if you don’t wanna get busted for breaking the law, don’t break the law. If you speed (and I do) be prepared to get caught and don’t whine about it."
Yes but why not just use a marked car I saw a copper pull 2 young girls over in a very indistinctive unmarked black BMW he didn't even look like a copper it felt wrong to me ,use the unmarked cars for serious crime not traffic offenses.

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By *ony MannMan 2 weeks ago

Las Gaviotos, Fuerteventura

I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

I think if there wasn't so many driving on the roads in unsafe, not insured vehicle's, pissed up, dr#g users and the 'I think I'm at brands hatch on suburban streets despite my lack of ability's types on the roads their job would be easier..

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By *ony MannMan 2 weeks ago

Las Gaviotos, Fuerteventura

Anyone could me a office with a ticket.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Did you see what led him to pull them over, or any idea what might have come up if he put the vehicles details in the system?

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

Anyone could me a office with a ticket."
Anyone could be an officer with a ticket .....I guess you're right and this is why I asked .

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By *ohn.Wick.Man 2 weeks ago

The Continental

Criminals disguise themselves to refrain from being caught committing crimes.

Why shouldn’t the police be afforded the same luxury to assist in crime prevention?

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By *amantha_NiteTV/TS 2 weeks ago

1 Way Attention Street,Fircombe,

If ive done nothing wrong,wouldnt need to be brought to their attention,shame everyone else doesnt have same ethos as myself

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By *ealMissShadyWoman 2 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

Obviously had his reasons to pull them over. If they had done nothing wrong then they don't have to worry

County lines and drug running is rife, maybe the car had been on their radar for a while. Who knows

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

Absolutely no issue with them at all. If you're not driving like a dickhead you should never be worried.

Where i live there are loads of them and you can spot them pretty easy if you know what to look for.

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By *elix SightedMan 2 weeks ago

Cloud 8

Well probably because people see marked cars and stop speeding before they’re caught.

I’ll say it again, either break the law or don’t, it’s your choice. But if you choose to break the law don’t whine about being caught or how they do it.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

Did you see what led him to pull them over, or any idea what might have come up if he put the vehicles details in the system?"
He was a big guy and the flat cap he was wearing had a white top I just felt it was wrong ,I stood for a second with thoughts of confronting him and then walked on .Don't use unmarked cars for traffic offenses is my feeling.

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By *ChubsMan 2 weeks ago

West Midlands

Can usually spot them a way back, only time I worry is driving at night when all you can see are headlights

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map .

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By *ohn.Wick.Man 2 weeks ago

The Continental

Just tell us what you got pulled for that’s caused your gripe.

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By *ChubsMan 2 weeks ago

West Midlands

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map ."

Not I knowing who's behind the headlights that are catching ylme up when I'm "slightly" over the speed limit of the vehicle I'm driving is a worry 😅

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map ."

If you know the rules of the road you'd not be doing any of the things suggested . Common sense would tell you that.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map .

Not I knowing who's behind the headlights that are catching ylme up when I'm "slightly" over the speed limit of the vehicle I'm driving is a worry 😅"
Are you tipsy ?

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Just tell us what you got pulled for that’s caused your gripe."
I didn't get pulled I rarely drive these days and avoid night driving .

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map .

If you know the rules of the road you'd not be doing any of the things suggested . Common sense would tell you that. "
Really you've never used your phone as a Satnav of course in a proper reciprocal on the dash but maybe in the wrong position or never noticed your tyre under inflated or never noticed a bulb out on a brake light at the rear I find that hard to believe but of course I could be wrong .

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By *ChubsMan 2 weeks ago

West Midlands

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map .

Not I knowing who's behind the headlights that are catching ylme up when I'm "slightly" over the speed limit of the vehicle I'm driving is a worry 😅Are you tipsy ?"

What makes you think that? 🤷🏼‍♂️

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Something needs to be done with all the assholes on the roads today, been driving almost 40 year's and I've never seen so many dangerous inconsiderate people driving as are today.

I've mentioned this before, it used to be that once in an absolute blue moon you'd see someone jumping a red light and I mean you could go year's without seeing someone.

Nowadays I can guarantee 100% within the first hour of leaving for my commute I'll see two or three.

Not to mention undertakers, tailgating, impatient fuckers unwilling to wait in a traffic queue and overtake a row of cars, people not only using phones but actually watching videos or face timing and the dozens of other infringement s that are a hourly occurrence.

So YEAH I'm all in favour of unmarked cars, if they save one life then worth it.

Argue with that!

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Something needs to be done with all the assholes on the roads today, been driving almost 40 year's and I've never seen so many dangerous inconsiderate people driving as are today.

I've mentioned this before, it used to be that once in an absolute blue moon you'd see someone jumping a red light and I mean you could go year's without seeing someone.

Nowadays I can guarantee 100% within the first hour of leaving for my commute I'll see two or three.

So YEAH I'm all in favour of unmarked cars, if they save one life then worth it.

Argue with that!"
Ok give me a minute .

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"Same as anything - if you don’t wanna get busted for breaking the law, don’t break the law. If you speed (and I do) be prepared to get caught and don’t whine about it."

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

Wish they would use unmarked cars with video to catch middle lane drivers.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Did you see what led him to pull them over, or any idea what might have come up if he put the vehicles details in the system?He was a big guy and the flat cap he was wearing had a white top I just felt it was wrong ,I stood for a second with thoughts of confronting him and then walked on .Don't use unmarked cars for traffic offenses is my feeling. "

If the officer had been a lone female would you have confronted her, going by what you've said about how you perceived the event?

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By *amantha_NiteTV/TS 2 weeks ago

1 Way Attention Street,Fircombe,

Im looking forward to being stopped very late at night/early morning driving home from a club(i dont drink),as where i live Police have little too do in small hours and check people out at that time,a lot of farm burglars happen then...be instresting with a 'blonde female' driver driving my car registered to a Mr hehe

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 2 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map .

If you know the rules of the road you'd not be doing any of the things suggested . Common sense would tell you that. Really you've never used your phone as a Satnav of course in a proper reciprocal on the dash but maybe in the wrong position or never noticed your tyre under inflated or never noticed a bulb out on a brake light at the rear I find that hard to believe but of course I could be wrong . "

I never use my phone for anything when I’m driving, not even hands free.

I was stopped the other day for having a bulb out that I hadn’t noticed, the copper simply told me to sort it soon as possible. He said it’s in the system so if you get stopped for it again next week we won’t be so generous, I thought well that’s fair enough.

Most of the time as long as you are not being a knob they are fina about these things.

The colour of the car they drive really is of absolutely no relevance, if anything it saves a bit of money not having to have painted up.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 2 weeks ago

North West

"Same as anything - if you don’t wanna get busted for breaking the law, don’t break the law. If you speed (and I do) be prepared to get caught and don’t whine about it."

^^^This

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By *dam1971Man 2 weeks ago

Bedford

I think if they find it helps, they should go for it.

If I was in charge I’d put a marked car on the road and an unmarked one 200 yards behind it. All the drivers who see the marked car and bang on the brakes have definitely got something to hide.

Same as anyone going past a 30mph speed camera at 22mph is definitely worth investigating

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By *ildTimes.Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester/London

The unmarked cars aren't just traffic cars you've no idea what they're doing, just leave them to get on with it, if you're not doing anything wrong it shouldn't bother you, they way the countries going we'd do with more police frankly.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 2 weeks ago

North West

I wouldn't want to get out of my car and into an unmarked car with a non uniformed officer. I'd expect that to be done by a proper liveried vehicle and uniformed officer. But I see no issue with unmarked cars and plain clothes officers doing speed cameras at the roadside or checking out a crowd for a suspected criminal or whatever.

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By *enatton2Couple 2 weeks ago

West Midlands

I wish there was more of them tbh

Tani

Like the one with Kiki Minaj!!!

Ben

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map .

Absolutely not no

My phones never touched when I'm driving.

I'm lucky I have a decent car now where everything i need is built in. If there's a fault with the car it will tell me on the screen, this includes tyres.

Even years ago when I drove shit cars , not once was i ever driving round with parts falling off, tyres undeflated or bulbs blown.

Part of being a driver is to keep on top of what you're driving around in.

I don't need to be driving a death trap that has the potential to kill me or someone else if something was to go wrong at high speed like a tyre bursting because I was too lazy to keep up with some basic checks.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

How do you know it was a random stop??

You are making lot's of assumptions.

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By *ellhungvweMan 2 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I can sort of see your point here OP.

I am in two minds about unmarked cars. On the one hand I really do like the fact that they are about because it will cause people to drive better. I am 100% behind that.

I have never been pulled over by the police but I am not sure I would be comfortable if an unmarked car drove rapidly up behjnd me and aggressively made me pull over. You don’t know who is in that vehicle. I appreciate they are the only ones who are supposed to use blue lights etc but the lack of markings could make it easier for people to abuse that.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"I wouldn't want to get out of my car and into an unmarked car with a non uniformed officer. I'd expect that to be done by a proper liveried vehicle and uniformed officer. But I see no issue with unmarked cars and plain clothes officers doing speed cameras at the roadside or checking out a crowd for a suspected criminal or whatever. "

From West Yorkshire Police Web site ** if a unmarked car asked you to stop night time . They say you should keep driving until you get to a petrol station or somewhere like that where other people are about.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

If you don't feel comfortable stopping for an unmarked car, you are able to dial 999 and tell them what is going on, and they are able to tell you if it's a real police car that's requesting you to stop just from your location. They then are able to make contact with the police car following you and tell them this. Leaving you to drive to a more public area before you stop. You don't have to stop instantly as long as you acknowledge they're behind you. (Hazard lights)

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 2 weeks ago

North West

"If you don't feel comfortable stopping for an unmarked car, you are able to dial 999 and tell them what is going on, and they are able to tell you if it's a real police car that's requesting you to stop just from your location. They then are able to make contact with the police car following you and tell them this. Leaving you to drive to a more public area before you stop. You don't have to stop instantly as long as you acknowledge they're behind you. (Hazard lights)

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't. "

I realise there are options but I suppose if it's happening to you, it could be scary and you might not carry out those steps.

I have the added problem of if I was pulled over by ANY police vehicle, I can't get out and stand by the side of the car or get into the police vehicle without someone fetching my wheelchair from the boot. A friend of mine who is a wheelchair user was pulled over (police thought he was d*unk coming out of a pub, but actually he's just disabled). Police didn't believe that he couldn't walk properly and used a wheelchair and he ended up face planting the pavement. It was only after they breathalysed him that they believed him and brought his walking aids and wheelchair.

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By *porty_and_NaughtyCouple 2 weeks ago

Swansea

"using unmarked cars ,your thoughts please ."

My thoughts on unmarked police cars? They are doing their job.

Mrs

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By *ildTimes.Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester/London

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't. "

Refusing to stop for the police 😮😮😮

Control, suspect has refused to stop,..suspect is "curvy", appears to be aged around 50, manly tattoos and big jugs! Over. 😂😂😂

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't.

Refusing to stop for the police 😮😮😮

Control, suspect has refused to stop,..suspect is "curvy", appears to be aged around 50, manly tattoos and big jugs! Over. 😂😂😂"

50!

You look closer to that age than I do sweetcheeks!

Hard paper round?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 2 weeks ago

North West

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't.

Refusing to stop for the police 😮😮😮

Control, suspect has refused to stop,..suspect is "curvy", appears to be aged around 50, manly tattoos and big jugs! Over. 😂😂😂

50!

You look closer to that age than I do sweetcheeks!

Hard paper round? "

Shots fired!

I'm not calling to leave police just get tho

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By *ildTimes.Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester/London

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't.

Refusing to stop for the police 😮😮😮

Control, suspect has refused to stop,..suspect is "curvy", appears to be aged around 50, manly tattoos and big jugs! Over. 😂😂😂

50!

You look closer to that age than I do sweetcheeks!

Hard paper round? "

At least you didn't disagree with the manly tattoos this time 😂😂😂

Men age like a fine wine though and women like sour milk ...kiss my sweet cheeks!

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By *aitonelMan 2 weeks ago

Liverpool

"Something needs to be done with all the assholes on the roads today, been driving almost 40 year's and I've never seen so many dangerous inconsiderate people driving as are today.

I've mentioned this before, it used to be that once in an absolute blue moon you'd see someone jumping a red light and I mean you could go year's without seeing someone.

Nowadays I can guarantee 100% within the first hour of leaving for my commute I'll see two or three.

So YEAH I'm all in favour of unmarked cars, if they save one life then worth it.

Argue with that!Ok give me a minute ."

Did the OP get pulled by an unmarked? Said this an hour ago, now nowhere to be seen?

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"Something needs to be done with all the assholes on the roads today, been driving almost 40 year's and I've never seen so many dangerous inconsiderate people driving as are today.

I've mentioned this before, it used to be that once in an absolute blue moon you'd see someone jumping a red light and I mean you could go year's without seeing someone.

Nowadays I can guarantee 100% within the first hour of leaving for my commute I'll see two or three.

So YEAH I'm all in favour of unmarked cars, if they save one life then worth it.

Argue with that!Ok give me a minute .

Did the OP get pulled by an unmarked? Said this an hour ago, now nowhere to be seen? "

He answered no all the way up there 👆

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By *ildTimes.Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester/London

"Something needs to be done with all the assholes on the roads today, been driving almost 40 year's and I've never seen so many dangerous inconsiderate people driving as are today.

I've mentioned this before, it used to be that once in an absolute blue moon you'd see someone jumping a red light and I mean you could go year's without seeing someone.

Nowadays I can guarantee 100% within the first hour of leaving for my commute I'll see two or three.

So YEAH I'm all in favour of unmarked cars, if they save one life then worth it.

Argue with that!Ok give me a minute .

Did the OP get pulled by an unmarked? Said this an hour ago, now nowhere to be seen? "

Currently in jail with Big Dave for a cell mate....and it's lights out at 9pm ...😬😬😬

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By *ny1localMan 2 weeks ago

READING

Marked or unmarked cops are doing their jobs. You rarely get pulled over if nothing is wrong..if there is something wrong then you're a danger to yourself and others and should be stopped before you injure or kill yourself or others.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't.

Refusing to stop for the police 😮😮😮

Control, suspect has refused to stop,..suspect is "curvy", appears to be aged around 50, manly tattoos and big jugs! Over. 😂😂😂

50!

You look closer to that age than I do sweetcheeks!

Hard paper round?

At least you didn't disagree with the manly tattoos this time 😂😂😂

Men age like a fine wine though and women like sour milk ...kiss my sweet cheeks! "

Fine wine has to come from good sources though, aldi bargains don't count.

Nothing on my body shows any kind of manliness. Would you like to look for yourself and I'll even invite you to kiss my cheeks on the way out.

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By *ildTimes.Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester/London

People assume you have to stop instantly - you don't.

Refusing to stop for the police 😮😮😮

Control, suspect has refused to stop,..suspect is "curvy", appears to be aged around 50, manly tattoos and big jugs! Over. 😂😂😂

50!

You look closer to that age than I do sweetcheeks!

Hard paper round?

At least you didn't disagree with the manly tattoos this time 😂😂😂

Men age like a fine wine though and women like sour milk ...kiss my sweet cheeks!

Fine wine has to come from good sources though, aldi bargains don't count.

Nothing on my body shows any kind of manliness. Would you like to look for yourself and I'll even invite you to kiss my cheeks on the way out.

Bacon sandwich...and you've got yourself a deal! 😉

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By *adbod2godbodMan 2 weeks ago

Manchester

My experience....pricks.

My friends who are also police officers....they also think they're pricks

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By *cottish guy 555Man 2 weeks ago

London

"Least said soonest mended...

That being said, I guess there is a job they need to do. I just wish they'd go after actual criminals and stop penalising the soft targets that help their stats.

Oh, and their arrogance is laughable... "Nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!""

Their remit includes road safety. Same with any job, sometimes they have arseholes employed.

As felix said, if you are doing nothing wrong you've nothing to fear.

Car behind you flashing and you're not sure? Dial 999 to check.

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By *rHotNottsMan 2 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Hot (female ones) - what is it about boobs and guns

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By *icolerobbieCouple 2 weeks ago

walsall

The whole purpose of marked hi-viz police cars is to act as a deterrent. Isn’t prevention better than cure? I would not be pulling over for an unmarked car flashing either headlights nor blue lights.

An under cover police car has its use, for under cover police work. A marked traffic car should be used to police the roads.

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By *arleyfatboy2019Couple 2 weeks ago

Devon

You’d be surprised how many criminals use motorways and A roads. Speeders are just one facet of their job.

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By *icolerobbieCouple 2 weeks ago

walsall

"You’d be surprised how many criminals use motorways and A roads. Speeders are just one facet of their job. "

That would be the job of the undercover car, not the traffic car. Although I’m sure they’d all join in if required.

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

I've no issue with them.

People who drive like thundercunts whether just dangerously or under the influence of something will temporarily stop doing so if they see a marked car, and then recommence when they don't.

The police who drive unmarked cars are in uniform, not civvies. They're obviously police when you see them out of the vehicle as they look no different to those driving marked cars.

I wish there were more. 🤷‍♂️

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By *icolerobbieCouple 2 weeks ago

walsall

"I've no issue with them.

People who drive like thundercunts whether just dangerously or under the influence of something will temporarily stop doing so if they see a marked car, and then recommence when they don't.

The police who drive unmarked cars are in uniform, not civvies. They're obviously police when you see them out of the vehicle as they look no different to those driving marked cars.

I wish there were more. 🤷‍♂️"

It works then, if only temporarily. I agree, there should be more marked cars patrolling the roads.

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By *eesside AnubisMan 2 weeks ago

North East

"using unmarked cars ,your thoughts please ."

If your doing nothing wrong you've nothing yo worry about

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By *essTTWoman 2 weeks ago

Birmingham

I don't have an opinion on it

But then I don't drive like a twit so.

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By *aidForSharingWoman 2 weeks ago

Lancashire

"Least said soonest mended...

That being said, I guess there is a job they need to do. I just wish they'd go after actual criminals and stop penalising the soft targets that help their stats.

Oh, and their arrogance is laughable... "Nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!""

It's a known fact that a substantial amount of criminals are caught this way

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By *enatton2Couple 2 weeks ago

West Midlands

"The whole purpose of marked hi-viz police cars is to act as a deterrent. Isn’t prevention better than cure? I would not be pulling over for an unmarked car flashing either headlights nor blue lights.

An under cover police car has its use, for under cover police work. A marked traffic car should be used to police the roads.

But isn’t being worried that unmarked police cars are driving amongst us also a deterrent?

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

My opinion is this ....why do the police have to hide behind the unmarked car for traffic offenses pulling people over at night young girls over at night ,I think the police should be up front where traffic offenses are concerned oh and those of you who said you don't look at your phone when driving ,shame on you .

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

The law is surely about being upfront and honest not underhanded.

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By *ohn.Wick.Man 2 weeks ago

The Continental

"My opinion is this ....why do the police have to hide behind the unmarked car for traffic offenses pulling people over at night young girls over at night ,I think the police should be up front where traffic offenses are concerned oh and those of you who said you don't look at your phone when driving ,shame on you ."

Because too many motorists that break rules/laws stop doing it for the duration they can see a marked car, and resume as soon as they feel it’s ‘safe’ for them not to get caught.

That’s what unmarked cars are for, to catch that person that thinks it’s safe to resume his/her twattish driving behaviour.

It’s not that hard to understand really.

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By *andK123Couple 2 weeks ago

Devon

"Innocent until proven guilty if you're not a criminal why should you worry ,are we criminals because we drive ,a flat tyre ,a light out ,a phone obscuring your view but acting as a map ."
it’s preventive policing and keeping the roads safe. When one of these cars stove into a family killing everyone cuz there car was not fit for the road. Suppose your next post would have been why are the police not doing enough !!

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By *rmrsp999Couple 2 weeks ago

glasowish

How do you know they didn't pull them over for no insurance or road tax, or if they had strayed over the speed limit?

The police do have a right to do random spot checks to check there's no defects with the vehicle.

But any vehicle driver can (if they feel the need), acknowledge the police are there and continue to drive into a well lit, public place like a petrol station etc if they feel unsafe about it.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

How do you know they didn't pull them over for no insurance or road tax, or if they had strayed over the speed limit?

The police do have a right to do random spot checks to check there's no defects with the vehicle.

But any vehicle driver can (if they feel the need), acknowledge the police are there and continue to drive into a well lit, public place like a petrol station etc if they feel unsafe about it."
Exactly I don't know why the police pulled the young girls over in the unmarked black BMW at night .

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"The law is surely about being upfront and honest not underhanded. "
coz obviously criminals are honest and upfront

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"The law is surely about being upfront and honest not underhanded. coz obviously criminals are honest and upfront

"
Ahhh so you are saying everyone who drives is a criminal ?

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

How do you know they didn't pull them over for no insurance or road tax, or if they had strayed over the speed limit?

The police do have a right to do random spot checks to check there's no defects with the vehicle.

But any vehicle driver can (if they feel the need), acknowledge the police are there and continue to drive into a well lit, public place like a petrol station etc if they feel unsafe about it.Exactly I don't know why the police pulled the young girls over in the unmarked black BMW at night ."

If that had been two young lads pulled over at night, you'd not even bat an eyelid i bet.

How do you know they hadn't just driven out of a pub carpark or something?

You don't

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"The law is surely about being upfront and honest not underhanded. coz obviously criminals are honest and upfront

Ahhh so you are saying everyone who drives is a criminal ?"

This is a pointless conversation,I'm out.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

People that don't use their phones whilst driving, shame on them?

How does that even make sense?

You do realise you're not supposed too, right?

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By *lik and PaulCouple 2 weeks ago

cahoots

"The law is surely about being upfront and honest not underhanded. "

If the general public were all upfront and honest the police could be too.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

How do you know they didn't pull them over for no insurance or road tax, or if they had strayed over the speed limit?

The police do have a right to do random spot checks to check there's no defects with the vehicle.

But any vehicle driver can (if they feel the need), acknowledge the police are there and continue to drive into a well lit, public place like a petrol station etc if they feel unsafe about it.Exactly I don't know why the police pulled the young girls over in the unmarked black BMW at night .

If that had been two young lads pulled over at night, you'd not even bat an eyelid i bet.

How do you know they hadn't just driven out of a pub carpark or something?

You don't "
My original thought was why use unmarked cars for traffic offenses it just seemed odd to me but all the comments seem to point to you don't mind ,so ok you don't mind thread over .

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By *quirrel!Man 2 weeks ago

Spot on - carry on police! Too many deaths in the road as it is!

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

How do you know they didn't pull them over for no insurance or road tax, or if they had strayed over the speed limit?

The police do have a right to do random spot checks to check there's no defects with the vehicle.

But any vehicle driver can (if they feel the need), acknowledge the police are there and continue to drive into a well lit, public place like a petrol station etc if they feel unsafe about it.Exactly I don't know why the police pulled the young girls over in the unmarked black BMW at night .

If that had been two young lads pulled over at night, you'd not even bat an eyelid i bet.

How do you know they hadn't just driven out of a pub carpark or something?

You don't My original thought was why use unmarked cars for traffic offenses it just seemed odd to me but all the comments seem to point to you don't mind ,so ok you don't mind thread over ."

But you aren't listening

You assume the girls were pulled over for a traffic offence.

He could of been pulling them over to give advice about something they'd done, a fault on the car, no insurance or a random spot check which is allowed.

Someone else could have reported her driving for another reason that he had to check.

You seem to have an issue with the fact they were both female and the car didn't have a few police stickers on it.

That's literally it .

Females are just that - female

We aren't exempt from any law not to have these things done to us too.

An unmarked car is still doing it's job.

Lots of police cars here where I live are now unmarked, as the ones that look like police cars with all the stickers and lights on are now shared police and paramedic cars.

So they use them for that reason and the unmarked ones as just police cars.

No one should have an issue with them, unless you have a reason to be trying to avoid them.

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"The law is surely about being upfront and honest not underhanded. coz obviously criminals are honest and upfront

Ahhh so you are saying everyone who drives is a criminal ?"

Nobody is saying that. But many criminals drive.

By your logic, all drink drivers should put stickers on the back of their cars saying 'I'm over the limit'. All bank robbers and burglars should wear black and white stripy tops and carry a sack marked 'swag'. All dealers should have branded cars and vans like pizza delivery companies and courier firms.

You know

So that they're upfront and honest and easy to spot.........

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

How do you know they didn't pull them over for no insurance or road tax, or if they had strayed over the speed limit?

The police do have a right to do random spot checks to check there's no defects with the vehicle.

But any vehicle driver can (if they feel the need), acknowledge the police are there and continue to drive into a well lit, public place like a petrol station etc if they feel unsafe about it.Exactly I don't know why the police pulled the young girls over in the unmarked black BMW at night .

If that had been two young lads pulled over at night, you'd not even bat an eyelid i bet.

How do you know they hadn't just driven out of a pub carpark or something?

You don't My original thought was why use unmarked cars for traffic offenses it just seemed odd to me but all the comments seem to point to you don't mind ,so ok you don't mind thread over .

But you aren't listening

You assume the girls were pulled over for a traffic offence.

He could of been pulling them over to give advice about something they'd done, a fault on the car, no insurance or a random spot check which is allowed.

Someone else could have reported her driving for another reason that he had to check.

You seem to have an issue with the fact they were both female and the car didn't have a few police stickers on it.

That's literally it .

Females are just that - female

We aren't exempt from any law not to have these things done to us too.

An unmarked car is still doing it's job.

Lots of police cars here where I live are now unmarked, as the ones that look like police cars with all the stickers and lights on are now shared police and paramedic cars.

So they use them for that reason and the unmarked ones as just police cars.

No one should have an issue with them, unless you have a reason to be trying to avoid them.

"
Its not about that they were girls it's not about why they were pulled over it's about the underhand use of unmarked cars for traffic offenses ,that's all that worried me but as it doesn't seem to worry the rest of you it's ok it was a consensus of opinion is all I looked for ,it worried me .Carry on .

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

Some have talked about seeing the law is that not a deterrent but if you can't see them ,why not just have all police in plain clothes that's my point we need to see them for it to act as a deterrent. Criminals will still be criminals doing serious crime and obviously a different kind of policing is required for them .

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Some have talked about seeing the law is that not a deterrent but if you can't see them ,why not just have all police in plain clothes that's my point we need to see them for it to act as a deterrent. Criminals will still be criminals doing serious crime and obviously a different kind of policing is required for them ."

And that's why there's both. Visible deterrent and unmarked for those that only follow the law when they think they're being watched.

Is it really that hard to understand?

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By *es.erection.of.PrinceMan 2 weeks ago

Cambridge

They have a job to do like we all do.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

I don't see motorists as criminals though but I guess you do ,its more about honest policing be upfront use a common all garden marked police car ,let us see you doing your job don't hide behind the unmarked car .

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

The police are getting a raw deal from the press and the media in general they are going back to beat policing because that's what people used to respect about the police ,a good honest policeman.

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By *alandNitaCouple 2 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

So people who choose to not follow the laws can just "act normal" as they go past then return to their unsafe practices.

Traffic law is very simple, anyone who doesn't want a ticket should just stick to the rules... or accept that it's their fault if they get caught.

Simple really.

Cal

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

So people who choose to not follow the laws can just "act normal" as they go past then return to their unsafe practices.

Traffic law is very simple, anyone who doesn't want a ticket should just stick to the rules... or accept that it's their fault if they get caught.

Simple really.

Cal"
Are you on about drivers or criminals ?

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By *ad NannaWoman 2 weeks ago

East London

Why is it underhand to use an unmarked car?

So people can't spot them and start driving carefully until they are out of eyesight?

Or hide down a side road or in a car park because they have bald tires or a headlight out?

Why does it matter what car they are in?

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By *erlexCouple 2 weeks ago

Tamworth

People don’t see the big yellow and green fun buses from what I’ve seen either, so marked or unmarked wouldn’t make much of a difference?

People don’t like them because you don’t feel like you’re committing an offence… until you cause an accident I guess, or someone else driving badly hits you?

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"I don't see motorists as criminals though but I guess you do ,its more about honest policing be upfront use a common all garden marked police car ,let us see you doing your job don't hide behind the unmarked car ."

Of course the majority aren't. And they have nothing to worry about.

Others are criminals. Drink drivers. Uninsured drivers. Banned drivers. People who drive recklessly. People who drive at excessive speed.

You seem to have a real issue with the police doing their job for some reason.

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By *lderLover69Man 2 weeks ago

Kings Norton, Birmingham

How do you know the two girls hadn't committed a serious crime. Let the police do their job. They have to put up with enough s**t as it is without people criticising the vehicles they use.

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By *ugby 123Couple 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

I don't have an issue with them, although I would be wary to stop for one so would do as advised and pull up at a public place if I could.

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By *lik and PaulCouple 2 weeks ago

cahoots

So people who choose to not follow the laws can just "act normal" as they go past then return to their unsafe practices.

Traffic law is very simple, anyone who doesn't want a ticket should just stick to the rules... or accept that it's their fault if they get caught.

Simple really.

CalAre you on about drivers or criminals ?"

Some drivers are criminals

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By *alandNitaCouple 2 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

So people who choose to not follow the laws can just "act normal" as they go past then return to their unsafe practices.

Traffic law is very simple, anyone who doesn't want a ticket should just stick to the rules... or accept that it's their fault if they get caught.

Simple really.

Cal

Are you on about drivers or criminals ?"

Yes...

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By *emarkablybobMan 2 weeks ago

Bradley Stoke

I feel this thread hasn't gone the negative way the OP presumably wanted it too??

Very naive to think criminals don't use cars too?! And i’m struggling to see or what you hoped to achieve by posting the points you have about unmarked cars and the car with the girls in? Are you one of these annoying auditors?

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By *ild_oatsMan 2 weeks ago

the land of saints & sinners

You got caught….. you might not like it but…

Suck it up buttercup…

Just pay the fine, take the points…

Nobody else’s problem but yours.

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By *hunky GentMan 2 weeks ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Actually, the ones I've met have been decent.

The ones that have pulled me over have let me off with a warning.

It must be my sweet and innocent face.

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By *ichaelsmyMan 2 weeks ago

douglas

when people see a marked car, they tend to drive with the police watching them.

when there is no obvious police car they tend to drive in the manner which they normally drive, i.e. like an idiot.

you sound like you have been pulled yourself and are bitter about being caught breaking the law.

so simple question, if you needed the police to help you. guess you dont want the help

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"I don't have an issue with them, although I would be wary to stop for one so would do as advised and pull up at a public place if I could. "
Exactly see a cautious person would be wary of an unmarked car and so you should be ,most driving offenses are trivial and many cars don't have technology that tells you you have an under inflated tyre or that your brake lights are out .

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again. "
Nobody stopped me I saw it happen the other night and it just seemed wrong to me .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again. Nobody stopped me I saw it happen the other night and it just seemed wrong to me ."

I asked you earlier would your assumptions have been the same had it been a female officer doing the stop?

Or if it had been two young lads in the car?

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By *hunky GentMan 2 weeks ago

Maldon and Peterborough

There's been sooooooo many times when I've seen people driving and thought 'I wish I was a copper'

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By *ags73Man 2 weeks ago

glasgow-ish

"using unmarked cars ,your thoughts please ."

Fair enough.

If you’re not driving too fast or too stupidly they will have someone else to nab

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By *emarkablybobMan 2 weeks ago

Bradley Stoke

"I don't have an issue with them, although I would be wary to stop for one so would do as advised and pull up at a public place if I could. Exactly see a cautious person would be wary of an unmarked car and so you should be ,most driving offenses are trivial and many cars don't have technology that tells you you have an under inflated tyre or that your brake lights are out ."

And you base your assumption that most driving offences are trivial on what exactly OP?

Again im struggling to read what exactly you are trying to get at?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Central

I'd prefer marked cars, which would help to save lives and prevent injuries, just via visibility.

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By *aitonelMan 2 weeks ago

Liverpool

Doing the lord's work

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By *aitonelMan 2 weeks ago

Liverpool

And you base your assumption that most driving offences are trivial on what exactly OP?

Again im struggling to read what exactly you are trying to get at? "

Honestly from what I can work out his only true point is unmarked is open to abuse. Random dude posses as unmarked officer, pulls over female drivers, does something unspeakable.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again. Nobody stopped me I saw it happen the other night and it just seemed wrong to me .

I asked you earlier would your assumptions have been the same had it been a female officer doing the stop?

Or if it had been two young lads in the car?"
It wasn't about who was pulled it was about the black unmarked car doing it ,my question was thoughts on unmarked cars doing traffic work ,I haven't been pulled and I don't know why the two young girls were pulled and had it been a female officer that didn't look like a copper same question .It just didn't feel right to me .

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By *emarkablybobMan 2 weeks ago

Bradley Stoke

And you base your assumption that most driving offences are trivial on what exactly OP?

Again im struggling to read what exactly you are trying to get at?

Honestly from what I can work out his only true point is unmarked is open to abuse. Random dude posses as unmarked officer, pulls over female drivers, does something unspeakable."

Never heard such rubbish lol Marked or unmarked cars all driven by professional individuals that are accountable for their actions. It is highly unlikely that a bogus police car would have emergency lighting and sirens fitted. To comply with legislation officers still have to be in uniform even in unmarked cars to deal with traffic offences.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 2 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

Checking your tyres and lights is the responsibility of the driver, what other responsibilities would you like the driver to be absolved of, adhering to speed limits, ensuring the vehicle is appropriately insured for you to drive ?

Do you think that the deaths caused by dangerous driving are just ‘trivial’ ?

Loosing control and ploughing into someone else is a very real possibility with incorrectly inflated or damaged tyres.

You have no idea why those women were stopped, maybe it was an unmarked car because it was part of a police operation that had nothing to do with a traffic offence.

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By *emarkablybobMan 2 weeks ago

Bradley Stoke

"I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again. Nobody stopped me I saw it happen the other night and it just seemed wrong to me .

I asked you earlier would your assumptions have been the same had it been a female officer doing the stop?

Or if it had been two young lads in the car?It wasn't about who was pulled it was about the black unmarked car doing it ,my question was thoughts on unmarked cars doing traffic work ,I haven't been pulled and I don't know why the two young girls were pulled and had it been a female officer that didn't look like a copper same question .It just didn't feel right to me ."

Well thank God you’re not in a position to influence anything to the contrary. Sounds to me like you’ve jumped on a police hating narrative and haven’t been met with the responses you’d hoped for and are now back peddling with ridiculous comments and opinions on a subject matter you clearly know nothing about.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again. Nobody stopped me I saw it happen the other night and it just seemed wrong to me .

I asked you earlier would your assumptions have been the same had it been a female officer doing the stop?

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By *ild_oatsMan 2 weeks ago

the land of saints & sinners

Really fail to understand the premise of your post.

You partially saw something that you had no context about…

If you were concerned you should have stopped and fully witnessed the situation unfold and even made a note of both vehicle registration numbers and then reported your concerns.

Otherwise this is just you trying to make something out of nothing. Or you have a previous grievance about being caught for a traffic offence.

So what is your point…. ???

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Really fail to understand the premise of your post.

You partially saw something that you had no context about…

If you were concerned you should have stopped and fully witnessed the situation unfold and even made a note of both vehicle registration numbers and then reported your concerns.

Otherwise this is just you trying to make something out of nothing. Or you have a previous grievance about being caught for a traffic offence.

So what is your point…. ???"
I don't like the use of unmarked cars doing traffic duty let the people see YOU at work be honest dont sneak around ,you can say motorists that aren't keeping their vehicles up to scratch are criminal but MOTs are a recent innovation in some European countries they don't even have MOTs but the bottom line is I don't like unmarked cars doing traffic offenses, just turn up in a marked car so we can identify you that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it ,I'm allowed an opinion .

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By *heel markMan 2 weeks ago

beside the sea

Mot's aren't recent, they've been a thing for 65 yrs 🤔

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By *ohn.Wick.Man 2 weeks ago

The Continental

On the flipside of your opinion.

I WANT the unmarked car to be passed by the moron doing 100mph on the motorway, and he gets nicked for doing so.

I don’t wanna see the MARKED car sat behind by the same moron, following the law until he sees it disappear, and the resumes his centurion speed.

More unmarked cars needed if you ask me.

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By *heel markMan 2 weeks ago

beside the sea

More unmarked cars needed if you ask me.

I agree and im the moron doing 100mph ,well 99 so I don't lose my licence.

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By *andyman71Man 2 weeks ago

Doncaster

I spent the majority of my police career in traffic. And believe me, unmarked cars definitely have their place. From covert operations catching repeat or serious offenders to catching those who put lives at risk.

And I could show you some of the scenes I’ve been to & families who have been devastated by road deaths then I’m sure you’d understand

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"I did from time to time, sounds like one stopped you, bad luck, don't do it again. Nobody stopped me I saw it happen the other night and it just seemed wrong to me .

I asked you earlier would your assumptions have been the same had it been a female officer doing the stop?

Unmarked vehicles are catching people using their phones,doing make up etc..

Particularly useful for nicking lorry and van drivers some of whom are in very heavy vehicles..

Tbh it's not going to stop because it's not popular with those they rightly catch and people like yourself no matter how you feel..

It was clear to you when the officer got out that he was legit (some valid points in the thread about safety) ..

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By *ife NinjaMan 2 weeks ago

Dunfermline

"I spent the majority of my police career in traffic. And believe me, unmarked cars definitely have their place. From covert operations catching repeat or serious offenders to catching those who put lives at risk.

And I could show you some of the scenes I’ve been to & families who have been devastated by road deaths then I’m sure you’d understand

No problem with it at all. Got bollocked once for speeding. Fair do's, I was. Let me off.

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan 2 weeks ago

belfast

No problem with them. They're trying to stop wankers killing people.

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By *ipstick KissesWoman 2 weeks ago

There and Here

Being from Northern Ireland I can't help thinking what's the fuss about unmarked police cars? 😄 The transition to liveried vehicles only started in 2001 and still feels a bit of a novelty.

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Really fail to understand the premise of your post.

You partially saw something that you had no context about…

If you were concerned you should have stopped and fully witnessed the situation unfold and even made a note of both vehicle registration numbers and then reported your concerns.

Otherwise this is just you trying to make something out of nothing. Or you have a previous grievance about being caught for a traffic offence.

So what is your point…. ???I don't like the use of unmarked cars doing traffic duty let the people see YOU at work be honest dont sneak around ,you can say motorists that aren't keeping their vehicles up to scratch are criminal but MOTs are a recent innovation in some European countries they don't even have MOTs but the bottom line is I don't like unmarked cars doing traffic offenses, just turn up in a marked car so we can identify you that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it ,I'm allowed an opinion ."

You're entire post is based on your assumption as to why they were stopped.

You don't know it was a 'trivial traffic duty' reason. The police don't have the resources or time to stop anyone for no reason. Maybe the plate was flagged by an ANPR camera in the unmarked vehicle. Maybe someone had reported them for theft of the car or dangerous driving. The simple fact remains the officer in question would have been in uniform, carrying ID and doing their job.

Jumping to the defence of two complete strangers just because they were women and making assumptions they'd done nothing to warrant being pulled over when you have nothing else to go on bar driving past them is a bit of a stretch really.

Women break the law too you know.

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By *anonfire96Man 2 weeks ago

Mansfield

They don't only use unmarked cars for catching speeders , they are a great tool for catching drug trafficking crossing county lines. Actual real criminals committing real crime and causing untold pain.

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By *oubleswing2019Man 2 weeks ago

Colchester

"using unmarked cars ,your thoughts please ."

Fully behind it.

It's essentially Panopticon policing. This was a prison was designed by Jeremy Bentham. It consisted of a central guard tower with small windows in the centre with prison cells arranged in a circle around it. The guards could see into all the cells, but the prisoners could not see into the tower.

The Panopticon theory holds that people can be controlled when they believe themselves to be under constant surveillance even if no one is watching. The theory stems from the intended effect of having a central guard tower in a prison that all the prisoners could see, even though they could not see the guards. Because the prisoners see the tower, they believe themselves to be watched and are thus on their best behaviour.

For Michel Foucault, panopticism is about the modern mechanisms of control. He argued that institutions are arranged like the prison, the Panopticon. Because they enable pervasive observation of individuals, they promote docility and compliance.

As a road user, I am rather keen on other road users including myself being docile and compliant and not doing crazy or dangerous shit !

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 2 weeks ago

North West

I'd have liked any kind of police car to witness the actions of the utter fuckwit who ACCELERATED through the red lights on the slip road of the A580 onto the M61 today. In the dark. As a pedestrian was crossing (correctly, they had a green light. Cars on red). It was purely fortunate that the pedestrian had already completed most of the width of the slip road. The moron was doing at least 40mph, heading into a 50mph bit. It was very nearly the most horrific incident and would have been almost certain death for the pedestrian.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Really fail to understand the premise of your post.

You partially saw something that you had no context about…

If you were concerned you should have stopped and fully witnessed the situation unfold and even made a note of both vehicle registration numbers and then reported your concerns.

Otherwise this is just you trying to make something out of nothing. Or you have a previous grievance about being caught for a traffic offence.

You're entire post is based on your assumption as to why they were stopped.

Women break the law too you know. "
All supposition maybe this maybe that they were two young girls in a car pulled over on the way into town for a night of fun by an unmarked BMW and a dubious looking policeman, who knows what crime they had achieved if any it was an unmarked bmw and I don't think they should be used for traffic duty end of ,thanks everyone for your input ,good night.

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By *hallasMan 2 weeks ago

in a skip

"Really fail to understand the premise of your post.

You partially saw something that you had no context about…

If you were concerned you should have stopped and fully witnessed the situation unfold and even made a note of both vehicle registration numbers and then reported your concerns.

Otherwise this is just you trying to make something out of nothing. Or you have a previous grievance about being caught for a traffic offence.

You're entire post is based on your assumption as to why they were stopped.

Women break the law too you know. All supposition maybe this maybe that they were two young girls in a car pulled over on the way into town for a night of fun by an unmarked BMW and a dubious looking policeman, who knows what crime they had achieved if any it was an unmarked bmw and I don't think they should be used for traffic duty end of ,thanks everyone for your input ,good night."

You seem to be obsessed with these two young girls, I've a question for you.

Would you be making such a fuss if the girls were black?

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By *essTTWoman 2 weeks ago

Birmingham

"Really fail to understand the premise of your post.

You partially saw something that you had no context about…

If you were concerned you should have stopped and fully witnessed the situation unfold and even made a note of both vehicle registration numbers and then reported your concerns.

Otherwise this is just you trying to make something out of nothing. Or you have a previous grievance about being caught for a traffic offence.

You're entire post is based on your assumption as to why they were stopped.

You seem to be obsessed with these two young girls, I've a question for you.

Would you be making such a fuss if the girls were black?

How do you know they weren't black? op hasn't mentioned race at any point.

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By *ild_oatsMan 2 weeks ago

the land of saints & sinners

OP the reason why the police use unmarked cars is that they fulfill an important duty and serve a vital purpose for traffic enforcement in keeping both drivers and passengers alike safe.

A natural significant advantage of unmarked police cars for road safety is that they are unrecognisable, that irresponsible drivers are caught in the act of violating road traffic laws.

When it comes to reckless driving, these drivers should be held accountable for their behaviour before they harm themselves or others.

Did it not occur to you that the occupants by their behaviour aroused suspicion of their actions or had committed driving offences prior to being stopped.

But as you momentarily drove by you made some massive assumptions that is probably quite baseless and doesn’t really reflect the reality of the situation.

If you were really a concerned citizen you would have stopped and acted as an independent witness. But I guess you didn’t and you are now clearly trying to row back on your comments and the original post with meaningless justification about a situation that you have no idea about.

Opinion is fine but only if you can back it up with some form of evidence.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Central

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Central

Speed cameras are painted for the very good reason, to make roads safer. Prevention of harm is intelligent. If one serious injury or death is presented by police cars being marked and visible, then that's more than enough justification to have cars to always be marked. There's no argument

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Speed cameras are painted for the very good reason, to make roads safer. Prevention of harm is intelligent. If one serious injury or death is presented by police cars being marked and visible, then that's more than enough justification to have cars to always be marked. There's no argument "

You know there's also mobile cameras?

And manned roadside cameras in places that change regularly?

So that people don't just drive carefully and sensibly where they know one is permanently positioned.

I mean....there's no argument. 🤷‍♂️

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 2 weeks ago

Central

You know there's also mobile cameras?

And manned roadside cameras in places that change regularly?

So that people don't just drive carefully and sensibly where they know one is permanently positioned.

I mean....there's no argument. 🤷‍♂️"

I'm not a police expert but the reason for the fixed ones being very visible, is to suppress and prevent danger. If police cars being visible, stopped and reduced deaths, I think most people would prefer that

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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

You know there's also mobile cameras?

And manned roadside cameras in places that change regularly?

So that people don't just drive carefully and sensibly where they know one is permanently positioned.

I mean....there's no argument. 🤷‍♂️

Personally I think most people prefer whatever catches bad drivers.

Which includes unmarked cars and mobile cameras.

A simple Google search explains the purpose and use of unmarked cars by the police in a very logical way, by the police themselves, road related advisory, support and service groups and insurers.

I'm honestly not sure why people are so against them.

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By *he Silver FuxMan 2 weeks ago

Uttoxeter

Even the other Bobbies hate Traffic regardless of the car they drive

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By *abluesbabyMan 2 weeks ago

Gibraltar/Cheshire/London

Of course my sentiments are the same as everyone commenting else who is a safe and law abiding driver on here.

However, this question always causes me to recount the time a lady I know who was driving her rather expensive car rather too fast it has to be said was ordered to pull over by a "plain" car whose blue lights and red "POLICE STOP" sign glowing in the back window suddenly appeared. Now this was the very early days of the police deploying such vehicles and this lady didn't believe it to be the police. So being on her own and fearing she was being car-jacked (like I say she was in a very nice car) she sped off even faster! And drove all the way to the local police station, parking her car right outside and running in to scream loudly at the desk sergeant that potential thieves (or worse!) were now also in the police station yard trying to get her and/or her car!

They let her off. I think the paperwork would have been too "awkward" and also they didn't need to be Lt Columbo to deduce ladies who can afford very expensive cars can also afford very expensive legal representation.

I will add this was the 1st time I'd heard of a police "stealth" vehicle, I too might have questioned its validity at the time.

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By *urry BlokeMan 2 weeks ago

Stalybridge

You know there's also mobile cameras?

And manned roadside cameras in places that change regularly?

So that people don't just drive carefully and sensibly where they know one is permanently positioned.

I mean....there's no argument. 🤷‍♂️"

You see the mobile trailers they have now?

They look like the tent caravans but instead of a pop up tent, they have a pop up gantry with lights and a camera on them

Leave them in location for a week or two and then tow them off to another

The ones I've seen are aimed at mobile phone use and no seat belt drivers as opposed to speeding

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By *avid 50Man 2 weeks ago

kendal

be aware here in Cumbria we have lots of traffic officers not police Just would be police and if you break down they will immediately call in their favourite recovery firm because they get their 50 quid back hander , recently was being recovered by my local garage and was told by plod he couldn't recover them as he the traffic officer had sent for a national firm, my garage guy told him to disappear but more vocal terms

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Least said soonest mended...

That being said, I guess there is a job they need to do. I just wish they'd go after actual criminals and stop penalising the soft targets that help their stats.

Oh, and their arrogance is laughable... "Nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!""
Think that's their training they have to appear holyer than thou.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"be aware here in Cumbria we have lots of traffic officers not police Just would be police and if you break down they will immediately call in their favourite recovery firm because they get their 50 quid back hander , recently was being recovered by my local garage and was told by plod he couldn't recover them as he the traffic officer had sent for a national firm, my garage guy told him to disappear but more vocal terms"

These plastic traffic office annoy me in cumbria going down over Shap one in left lane going just tiny bit slower than wagons so every wagon had to pull out over take him

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By *ansoffateMan 2 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

fascist police state innit, can do what they want.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"fascist police state innit, can do what they want."
It would seem so and always with the premise if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear .I haven't but I don't like the sneaking around ,somebody said earlier they speed and would take the punishment if caught well you'd have to but bottom line is everyone speeds even the police on or off duty .Having said that my question has always been "what do you think about the police using unmarked cars for traffic duty?" The consensus of opinion is they love it .

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"fascist police state innit, can do what they want."

I'm sure this is tongue in cheek, but I would say probably as far from it as we've ever been.

The police are scrutinized in a way that they have never been before this thread is a perfect example just missing a video recording on the phone with the OP shouting "fascist pig's".

I think they get away with far less and are far softer than they have ever been in my lifetime.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

Seen a few moaning about drivers

Am I wrong in thinking younger drivers today are better than the older drivers of yesterday????

Seen as the the driving test is harder now???

Let's watch all the old boys moaning lol

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"fascist police state innit, can do what they want.

I'm sure this is tongue in cheek, but I would say probably as far from it as we've ever been.

The police are scrutinized in a way that they have never been before this thread is a perfect example just missing a video recording on the phone with the OP shouting "fascist pig's".

I think they get away with far less and are far softer than they have ever been in my lifetime."
Are you saying I shout fascist pigs ?Wow blasphemy if ever I read it .

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By *hristopherd999Man 2 weeks ago

Brentwood

Uninsured, d*unk or high on drugs drivers use unmarked cars too, until they crash into you

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Seen a few moaning about drivers

Am I wrong in thinking younger drivers today are better than the older drivers of yesterday????

Seen as the the driving test is harder now???

Let's watch all the old boys moaning lol"
lol hey us older drivers have experience of all the different scenarios of what can go wrong and how to deal with it ,experience counts for a lot .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"fascist police state innit, can do what they want."

Said no one who has actually lived in one and now lives here..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"Seen a few moaning about drivers

Am I wrong in thinking younger drivers today are better than the older drivers of yesterday????

Seen as the the driving test is harder now???

Let's watch all the old boys moaning lollol hey us older drivers have experience of all the different scenarios of what can go wrong and how to deal with it ,experience counts for a lot ."

Durant stop some from making gross assumptions though..

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"fascist police state innit, can do what they want.

I'm sure this is tongue in cheek, but I would say probably as far from it as we've ever been.

The police are scrutinized in a way that they have never been before this thread is a perfect example just missing a video recording on the phone with the OP shouting "fascist pig's".

I think they get away with far less and are far softer than they have ever been in my lifetime.Are you saying I shout fascist pigs ?Wow blasphemy if ever I read it ."

It is as an example of the type of scrutiny the police face today,not a personal attack.

Meant this type of thread would usually contain a video of the person who started the thread with a video of them shouting at police,like you'd see on the Facebook's.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

I don't shout at anyone and certainly not a police officer, so no I don't see any significance in your submission.

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"Seen a few moaning about drivers

Am I wrong in thinking younger drivers today are better than the older drivers of yesterday????

Seen as the the driving test is harder now???

Let's watch all the old boys moaning lollol hey us older drivers have experience of all the different scenarios of what can go wrong and how to deal with it ,experience counts for a lot ."

Did you learn when wheels had flat sides ???

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I don't shout at anyone and certainly not a police officer, so no I don't see any significance in your submission. "

Relax it was an example of the scrutiny.

Nothing personal

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By *aveman 77Man 2 weeks ago

Rotherham

"Same as anything - if you don’t wanna get busted for breaking the law, don’t break the law. If you speed (and I do) be prepared to get caught and don’t whine about it.Yes but why not just use a marked car I saw a copper pull 2 young girls over in a very indistinctive unmarked black BMW he didn't even look like a copper it felt wrong to me ,use the unmarked cars for serious crime not traffic offenses. "
totally agree with this at work we are advised not to stop for them but put a sign in window I'll follow you to the station a marked car no problem unmarked no should only be used as said for organised crime.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Seen a few moaning about drivers

Am I wrong in thinking younger drivers today are better than the older drivers of yesterday????

Seen as the the driving test is harder now???

Let's watch all the old boys moaning lollol hey us older drivers have experience of all the different scenarios of what can go wrong and how to deal with it ,experience counts for a lot .

Did you learn when wheels had flat sides ???

"
I learnt when we didn't have to take out a loan for the insurance lol

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By *aveman 77Man 2 weeks ago

Rotherham

"Absolutely no issue with them at all. If you're not driving like a dickhead you should never be worried.

Where i live there are loads of them and you can spot them pretty easy if you know what to look for."
we have a WhatsApp group with all local unmarked car reg on soon as a new one to turns up it's on within minutes.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

"Same as anything - if you don’t wanna get busted for breaking the law, don’t break the law. If you speed (and I do) be prepared to get caught and don’t whine about it.Yes but why not just use a marked car I saw a copper pull 2 young girls over in a very indistinctive unmarked black BMW he didn't even look like a copper it felt wrong to me ,use the unmarked cars for serious crime not traffic offenses. totally agree with this at work we are advised not to stop for them but put a sign in window I'll follow you to the station a marked car no problem unmarked no should only be used as said for organised crime."
Exactly my point ,thank you .

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By *heLeadbettersCouple 2 weeks ago

Reading

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 2 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"Absolutely no issue with them at all. If you're not driving like a dickhead you should never be worried.

Where i live there are loads of them and you can spot them pretty easy if you know what to look for.we have a WhatsApp group with all local unmarked car reg on soon as a new one to turns up it's on within minutes."

What are you doing to warrant such focus on unmarked police cars,if you are not doing anything wrong you needn't be concerned unmarked or not??

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By *ohn.Wick.Man 2 weeks ago

The Continental

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

J"
Is that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?

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By *ohn.Wick.Man 2 weeks ago

The Continental

If it was so dubious. Why didn’t you render assistance to the ladies at that moment?

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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago

"Seen a few moaning about drivers

Am I wrong in thinking younger drivers today are better than the older drivers of yesterday????

Seen as the the driving test is harder now???

Let's watch all the old boys moaning lollol hey us older drivers have experience of all the different scenarios of what can go wrong and how to deal with it ,experience counts for a lot .

Did you learn when wheels had flat sides ???

I learnt when we didn't have to take out a loan for the insurance lol"

Hahahah ohh man your luck mate lol

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

JIs that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?"

When did he become dubious?

You made no mention of it initially..

Looks like only since you've received criticism for your assumptions that your now changing the story?

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

JIs that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?

When did he become dubious?

You made no mention of it initially..

Looks like only since you've received criticism for your assumptions that your now changing the story?

"
My second submission to the thread ,I wasn't involved, the question was do you agree with unmarked cars being used for traffic duty a simple question ,do you or don't you ,most people don't agree they think unmarked cars should be used because if you haven't done anything wrong what do you have to worry about .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

JIs that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?

When did he become dubious?

You made no mention of it initially..

Looks like only since you've received criticism for your assumptions that your now changing the story?

My second submission to the thread ,I wasn't involved, the question was do you agree with unmarked cars being used for traffic duty a simple question ,do you or don't you ,most people don't agree they think unmarked cars should be used because if you haven't done anything wrong what do you have to worry about ."

No..

You first said dubious yesterday, in your early posts you were a bit unsure about how he looked but then accepted he was doing his job..

Since yesterday he's become dubious..

Did it slip your mind or is it that in saying he looked dubious it adds weight to your opinion?

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By *emarkablybobMan 2 weeks ago

Bradley Stoke

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

JIs that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?

When did he become dubious?

You made no mention of it initially..

Looks like only since you've received criticism for your assumptions that your now changing the story?

No..

You first said dubious yesterday, in your early posts you were a bit unsure about how he looked but then accepted he was doing his job..

Since yesterday he's become dubious..

Did it slip your mind or is it that in saying he looked dubious it adds weight to your opinion?

"
I've never accepted at any point he was doing his job i'm indifferent to that statement and I say again all I asked was should unmarked cars be used for traffic duty ,you seem to enjoy twisting my words and I'm not attempting to add weight to anything I said what I saw and in my opinion it looked wrong but it seems to most people here I shouldn't care unless I've done something wrong which I haven't. I just don't see the need for the police to not be seen doing traffic duty ,its ok if the majority feel it's ok for them to use unmarked vehicles that was the point of the thread to ascertain that .

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

I can sort of see your point here OP.

I am in two minds about unmarked cars. On the one hand I really do like the fact that they are about because it will cause people to drive better. I am 100% behind that.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 2 weeks ago

in Lancashire

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

JIs that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?

When did he become dubious?

You made no mention of it initially..

Looks like only since you've received criticism for your assumptions that your now changing the story?

No..

You first said dubious yesterday, in your early posts you were a bit unsure about how he looked but then accepted he was doing his job..

Since yesterday he's become dubious..

Did it slip your mind or is it that in saying he looked dubious it adds weight to your opinion?

I've never accepted at any point he was doing his job i'm indifferent to that statement and I say again all I asked was should unmarked cars be used for traffic duty ,you seem to enjoy twisting my words and I'm not attempting to add weight to anything I said what I saw and in my opinion it looked wrong but it seems to most people here I shouldn't care unless I've done something wrong which I haven't. I just don't see the need for the police to not be seen doing traffic duty ,its ok if the majority feel it's ok for them to use unmarked vehicles that was the point of the thread to ascertain that ."

I've twisted nothing..

All I've done is corrected something you later added to try and give the tale some gravitas (possibly)..

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

If the only reason you obey the law is because there's a marked police car behind you, you're part of the problem.

JIs that the question that was posed though and why the reference to me I wasn't pulled over by an unmarked black BMW with a dubious looking police officer?

When did he become dubious?

You made no mention of it initially..

Looks like only since you've received criticism for your assumptions that your now changing the story?

No..

You first said dubious yesterday, in your early posts you were a bit unsure about how he looked but then accepted he was doing his job..

Since yesterday he's become dubious..

Did it slip your mind or is it that in saying he looked dubious it adds weight to your opinion?

I've twisted nothing..

All I've done is corrected something you later added to try and give the tale some gravitas (possibly)..

"
I haven't added anything I said it all in my first two submissions but thank you for your contributions very useful.

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By *ffervescent OP Man 2 weeks ago

winfrith

That went well I thought .

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