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By *aitonelMan 3 days ago
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Majority that say they are bratty generally are not very bratty or can't pull it off the same way they think they can, it's on the same level as every wannabe classing themselves as dom.
It's nothing but an umbrella term to cover all bases. |
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I like this. 😁
Very few people actually get to see my brat side. They have to be someone who enjoys and deserves it. "
It only comes out with certain individuals. For me you have to have some connection with them and be comfortable around them. |
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I like this. 😁
Very few people actually get to see my brat side. They have to be someone who enjoys and deserves it.
It only comes out with certain individuals. For me you have to have some connection with them and be comfortable around them."
Yes definitely agree with this. It's pretty much only something Mr KC will see because he's the only one to inspire genuine submission in me. |
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By *eliWoman 3 days ago
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"Majority that say they are bratty generally are not very bratty or can't pull it off the same way they think they can, it's on the same level as every wannabe classing themselves as dom/dominant.
It's nothing but an umbrella term to cover all bases. "
It's a bit of a grumpy post but yeah, I kind of agree with this.
Perhaps in a more intimate setting they're bratty, I like being playful/a bit of a dick but I wouldn't say I'm bratty away from that kind of setting.
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By *ags73Man 3 days ago
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"Are you bratty?
I am 🐧😁🐧😁🐧😁🐧
Is this the penguin movement? 
Might be. Although I have some awesome beige ones I might go for tomorrow
Oh! Oh! I've got massive beige ones too 
Penguins?
No, pants  "
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"Majority that say they are bratty generally are not very bratty or can't pull it off the same way they think they can, it's on the same level as every wannabe classing themselves as dom/dominant.
It's nothing but an umbrella term to cover all bases.
It's a bit of a grumpy post but yeah, I kind of agree with this.
Perhaps in a more intimate setting they're bratty, I like being playful/a bit of a dick but I wouldn't say I'm bratty away from that kind of setting.
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It was that I was talking about. Being playful/mischievous in that sort of scenario.
But also being ridiculously petty when it comes to penguins. 😂🐧 |
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"Majority that say they are bratty generally are not very bratty or can't pull it off the same way they think they can, it's on the same level as every wannabe classing themselves as dom.
It's nothing but an umbrella term to cover all bases. "
I can see where you are coming from to an extent. But it's not often you'll have posts from Brats seeking brat tamers. Got to be honest can't think of one.
There are numerous brats I know of on here, some are open about it and others you wouldn't have a clue. I don't find much difference between them, just some are more open about than others.
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Nope. On the couple of occasions I’ve thought it might be fine I’ve quickly realised I can’t bear incurring the displeasure of the other person in that scenario. I’m obedient all day long.
To be clear
In a specific sexual scenario with particular people, not in the rest of my life 
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"Nope. On the couple of occasions I’ve thought it might be fine I’ve quickly realised I can’t bear incurring the displeasure of the other person in that scenario. I’m obedient all day long.
To be clear
In a specific sexual scenario with particular people, not in the rest of my life
Mrs TMN x"
I get that.
Am I deliberately disobedient, nope. But teasing, playful, mischievous? Absolutely. |
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"Nope. On the couple of occasions I’ve thought it might be fine I’ve quickly realised I can’t bear incurring the displeasure of the other person in that scenario. I’m obedient all day long.
To be clear
In a specific sexual scenario with particular people, not in the rest of my life
Mrs TMN x
I get that.
Am I deliberately disobedient, nope. But teasing, playful, mischievous? Absolutely. "
I’m playful and mischievous most of the time with most people. It’s rare for someone to still that.
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"There has to be a difference between bratty and just being a dick. For me bratty is more done in a fun kind of way
Just my thoughts "
I would agree with this. These are my thoughts in regard to the brat and D/s dynamic. Evie Lupine on You tube has a few podcasts on the subject.
In my dynamic I am not interested in brats, but I have had dynamics with people who would refer to themselves as brats. They would describe themselves as being cheeky not rude, fun but not mischievous. The aim is not to be malicious but playful. As part of the negotiation they will be aware there are consequences if they cross the line. But their aim is to go up to the line as they don't seek punishment.
Bratting is also done by those who want to cross the line as a power play to keep the Dom on their toes, as they see dominance in a primal or disciplinarian way which works for brat tamers.
There also brats who misbehave as they seek punishment. Somehow, just asking for punishment is unsatisfying, it must be deserved.
There are other types of brats (e.g. rope brats) which is why communication and discussion before a relationship or play is important.
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I like this. 😁
Very few people actually get to see my brat side. They have to be someone who enjoys and deserves it.
And the running mascara is a really hot aesthetic on you too 😘😍.
B
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👀😈
I love this thread
I’m one of those people that used to have a very very low tolerance of brats. Those I’d interacted with in the past did so through malicious intent, power play in a cunty way or because they simply wanted punishment and thought the only way to get their needs met was to act like a twat…. None of which fosters the trust needed for a good deep connection and dynamic. However I have learned I am a big fan of the playful, teasing and funny brat.
On the flip side it’s rare my brat side comes out, I’m very obedient and when it does it’s always playful not malicious. |
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By *ags73Man 2 days ago
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"🤏
I like this. 😁
Very few people actually get to see my brat side. They have to be someone who enjoys and deserves it.
And the running mascara is a really hot aesthetic on you too 😘😍.
B
🫠
👀😈
I love this thread
I’m one of those people that used to have a very very low tolerance of brats. Those I’d interacted with in the past did so through malicious intent, power play in a cunty way or because they simply wanted punishment and thought the only way to get their needs met was to act like a twat…. None of which fosters the trust needed for a good deep connection and dynamic. However I have learned I am a big fan of the playful, teasing and funny brat.
On the flip side it’s rare my brat side comes out, I’m very obedient and when it does it’s always playful not malicious."
I didn’t get it at first and thought it was very selfish and a bit c*nty, but I get it now and maybe in future I’d like to know more |
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"Can someone explain bratty to me?"
I’ll try but it’s almost 4am and I’ve just woken up so if it’s a terrible explanation please forgive me.
Brat is generally referred to in terms of kink and BDSM relationships.
Someone else has given a lovely description of brat types so I’ll try to quote that here
" They would describe themselves as being cheeky not rude, fun but not mischievous. The aim is not to be malicious but playful. As part of the negotiation they will be aware there are consequences if they cross the line. But their aim is to go up to the line as they don't seek punishment."
"Bratting is also done by those who want to cross the line as a power play to keep the Dom on their toes, as they see dominance in a primal or disciplinarian way which works for brat tamers."
" There also brats who misbehave as they seek punishment. Somehow, just asking for punishment is unsatisfying, it must be deserved."
"There are other types of brats (e.g. rope brats) which is why communication and discussion before a relationship or play is important"
BDSM is by its nature an exchange of power and control, willing and consenting based on a foundation of trust and respect.
Over simplified but generally one partner assumes the role of dominance and the other assumes the role of submissive. The submissive willingly hands control to the dominant. For some it’s for a few hours during bedroom activities for others it’s a 24/7 lifestyle where every decision is made by their dominant.
A brat is a submissive who is essentially a bit naughty and disobedient.
Could be playful defiance or button pushing, could be a grade A asshole, could be defiant because they are seeking punishment and think that’s the only way they’ll get their needs met. As the above quote mentions there is many types of brat.
I have a fairly low tolerance to most brats but playful teasing disobedience or challenge is fun. A naughty twinkle in their eye and a cheeky comment will add +1 to an agreed punishment, a smart mouth during a scene will make me laugh and want to shut that mouth quickly and hard. It can trigger a determination in me to show them exactly what I mean…. And they love it.
Hope that helps
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I'm contrary.
That can range from playful and fun to "fuck off Nick I've had enough of you".
See - I couldn't even answer "are you bratty?" without a contrary definition being offered 💁🏻♂️.
Is that a yearning for better definitions/"seeing people and myself more clearly", or am I just a cunt?
Maybe you can't have the one without the other xxxx |
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By *oo1968Man 2 days ago
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I confess I’m clueless about this.
What is “bratty”?
Can someone please explain? The conventional definition is basically someone behaving like an entitled twat. Have I blinked and missed something here? |
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"I confess I’m clueless about this.
What is “bratty”?
Can someone please explain? The conventional definition is basically someone behaving like an entitled twat. Have I blinked and missed something here?"
There's an excellent explanation from EvaRose a few posts up from yours 😁 |
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"Can someone explain bratty to me?
I’ll try but it’s almost 4am and I’ve just woken up so if it’s a terrible explanation please forgive me.
Brat is generally referred to in terms of kink and BDSM relationships.
Someone else has given a lovely description of brat types so I’ll try to quote that here
They would describe themselves as being cheeky not rude, fun but not mischievous. The aim is not to be malicious but playful. As part of the negotiation they will be aware there are consequences if they cross the line. But their aim is to go up to the line as they don't seek punishment.
Bratting is also done by those who want to cross the line as a power play to keep the Dom on their toes, as they see dominance in a primal or disciplinarian way which works for brat tamers.
There also brats who misbehave as they seek punishment. Somehow, just asking for punishment is unsatisfying, it must be deserved.
There are other types of brats (e.g. rope brats) which is why communication and discussion before a relationship or play is important
BDSM is by its nature an exchange of power and control, willing and consenting based on a foundation of trust and respect.
Over simplified but generally one partner assumes the role of dominance and the other assumes the role of submissive. The submissive willingly hands control to the dominant. For some it’s for a few hours during bedroom activities for others it’s a 24/7 lifestyle where every decision is made by their dominant.
A brat is a submissive who is essentially a bit naughty and disobedient.
Could be playful defiance or button pushing, could be a grade A asshole, could be defiant because they are seeking punishment and think that’s the only way they’ll get their needs met. As the above quote mentions there is many types of brat.
I have a fairly low tolerance to most brats but playful teasing disobedience or challenge is fun. A naughty twinkle in their eye and a cheeky comment will add +1 to an agreed punishment, a smart mouth during a scene will make me laugh and want to shut that mouth quickly and hard. It can trigger a determination in me to show them exactly what I mean…. And they love it.
Hope that helps
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Oh yes...how close to the line... problem is my line, or your line
The energy has to be there on both sides...but then you should have a really good feel for your boundaries before going into a session and a deep understanding of each other.
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"Can someone explain bratty to me?
I’ll try but it’s almost 4am and I’ve just woken up so if it’s a terrible explanation please forgive me.
Brat is generally referred to in terms of kink and BDSM relationships.
Someone else has given a lovely description of brat types so I’ll try to quote that here
They would describe themselves as being cheeky not rude, fun but not mischievous. The aim is not to be malicious but playful. As part of the negotiation they will be aware there are consequences if they cross the line. But their aim is to go up to the line as they don't seek punishment.
Bratting is also done by those who want to cross the line as a power play to keep the Dom on their toes, as they see dominance in a primal or disciplinarian way which works for brat tamers.
There also brats who misbehave as they seek punishment. Somehow, just asking for punishment is unsatisfying, it must be deserved.
There are other types of brats (e.g. rope brats) which is why communication and discussion before a relationship or play is important
BDSM is by its nature an exchange of power and control, willing and consenting based on a foundation of trust and respect.
Over simplified but generally one partner assumes the role of dominance and the other assumes the role of submissive. The submissive willingly hands control to the dominant. For some it’s for a few hours during bedroom activities for others it’s a 24/7 lifestyle where every decision is made by their dominant.
A brat is a submissive who is essentially a bit naughty and disobedient.
Could be playful defiance or button pushing, could be a grade A asshole, could be defiant because they are seeking punishment and think that’s the only way they’ll get their needs met. As the above quote mentions there is many types of brat.
I have a fairly low tolerance to most brats but playful teasing disobedience or challenge is fun. A naughty twinkle in their eye and a cheeky comment will add +1 to an agreed punishment, a smart mouth during a scene will make me laugh and want to shut that mouth quickly and hard. It can trigger a determination in me to show them exactly what I mean…. And they love it.
Hope that helps
Oh yes...how close to the line... problem is my line, or your line
The energy has to be there on both sides...but then you should have a really good feel for your boundaries before going into a session and a deep understanding of each other.
I'm cheekiest when there's no play planned..smarts me "
Complete opposite, I use it as a kind of brain chess, which quietens by brain before I submit fully. For me it has several purposes and none of them malicious or looking for funishment. |
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"Can someone explain bratty to me?
I’ll try but it’s almost 4am and I’ve just woken up so if it’s a terrible explanation please forgive me.
Brat is generally referred to in terms of kink and BDSM relationships.
Someone else has given a lovely description of brat types so I’ll try to quote that here
They would describe themselves as being cheeky not rude, fun but not mischievous. The aim is not to be malicious but playful. As part of the negotiation they will be aware there are consequences if they cross the line. But their aim is to go up to the line as they don't seek punishment.
Bratting is also done by those who want to cross the line as a power play to keep the Dom on their toes, as they see dominance in a primal or disciplinarian way which works for brat tamers.
There also brats who misbehave as they seek punishment. Somehow, just asking for punishment is unsatisfying, it must be deserved.
There are other types of brats (e.g. rope brats) which is why communication and discussion before a relationship or play is important
BDSM is by its nature an exchange of power and control, willing and consenting based on a foundation of trust and respect.
Over simplified but generally one partner assumes the role of dominance and the other assumes the role of submissive. The submissive willingly hands control to the dominant. For some it’s for a few hours during bedroom activities for others it’s a 24/7 lifestyle where every decision is made by their dominant.
A brat is a submissive who is essentially a bit naughty and disobedient.
Could be playful defiance or button pushing, could be a grade A asshole, could be defiant because they are seeking punishment and think that’s the only way they’ll get their needs met. As the above quote mentions there is many types of brat.
I have a fairly low tolerance to most brats but playful teasing disobedience or challenge is fun. A naughty twinkle in their eye and a cheeky comment will add +1 to an agreed punishment, a smart mouth during a scene will make me laugh and want to shut that mouth quickly and hard. It can trigger a determination in me to show them exactly what I mean…. And they love it.
Hope that helps
Oh yes...how close to the line... problem is my line, or your line
The energy has to be there on both sides...but then you should have a really good feel for your boundaries before going into a session and a deep understanding of each other.
I'm cheekiest when there's no play planned..smarts me "
Hahahaha this is where I’d just quietly message
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I'm cheekiest when there's no play planned..smarts me
Hahahaha this is where I’d just quietly message
“+1” and watch their reaction 😈"
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I'm cheekiest when there's no play planned..smarts me
Hahahaha this is where I’d just quietly message
“+1” and watch their reaction 😈
And that's the headfuck that brings my serotonin and dopamine hits 🥰"
Exactly
It’s all about the mental state |
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I'm cheekiest when there's no play planned..smarts me
Hahahaha this is where I’d just quietly message
“+1” and watch their reaction 😈
And that's the headfuck that brings my serotonin and dopamine hits 🥰
Exactly
It’s all about the mental state"
I actually got a tummy flip 🤩😇 |
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"Bratty just reads 'hard work' to me
Putting a trendy label on it doesn't justify selfish, demanding, entitled attitudes"
It’s not really that , brats are a lot of fun if you can handle it . It takes a lot of intelligence, creativity and attitude to be consistently a complete pain in the arse while simultaneously remaining submissive , bending all the rules to the absolute limit. |
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"Bratty just reads 'hard work' to me
Putting a trendy label on it doesn't justify selfish, demanding, entitled attitudes
It’s not really that , brats are a lot of fun if you can handle it . It takes a lot of intelligence, creativity and attitude to be consistently a complete pain in the arse while simultaneously remaining submissive , bending all the rules to the absolute limit."
It's not for me
If that's someone's bag, cool, but it ain't mine
I spent way too long IRL with someone who exhibited true bratty behaviour
My naivety was well and truly milked
I didn't see it then, but I sure do now
As such, it cannot be part of any 'game' to me
It's not fun
I should have probably left this thread alone
Sorry for butting in amongst those who get the gig |
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"Nothing a good tie and tease can't solve can't be bratty when moaning in ecstasy Cumming time and time again x"
Hmmmm the ones that spring to my mind would switch your rope and you’d end up tied and left with a spoiled orgasm & an ice cube up your bum |
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By *ob357Man 2 days ago
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Interesting read from Eva Rose.
I’d almost describe myself as bratty but in life not swinging 
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By *ags73Man 2 days ago
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"Can a guy be bratty? Either way, I don’t believe I am. Prone to the occasional sulk but that’s it.
Gay guys / trans can be bratty
ANYONE can be a brat"
Dunno I like a laugh and can sometimes be up for the wind up but not sure I’d be pissing off someone I liked on a regular basis |
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"Can a guy be bratty? Either way, I don’t believe I am. Prone to the occasional sulk but that’s it.
Gay guys / trans can be bratty
ANYONE can be a brat
Dunno I like a laugh and can sometimes be up for the wind up but not sure I’d be pissing off someone I liked on a regular basis"
No-one gets pissed off. |
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By *ags73Man 2 days ago
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"Can a guy be bratty? Either way, I don’t believe I am. Prone to the occasional sulk but that’s it.
Gay guys / trans can be bratty
ANYONE can be a brat
Dunno I like a laugh and can sometimes be up for the wind up but not sure I’d be pissing off someone I liked on a regular basis
No-one gets pissed off."
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"Can a guy be bratty? Either way, I don’t believe I am. Prone to the occasional sulk but that’s it.
Gay guys / trans can be bratty
ANYONE can be a brat
Dunno I like a laugh and can sometimes be up for the wind up but not sure I’d be pissing off someone I liked on a regular basis
No-one gets pissed off.
Do they not?"
No. Mr KC either is very good at hiding being pissed off during sexy time, or his dominant side is enhanced by the brattiness I can show. It's like anything - if it's not something that floats your boat then you'll probably not get it, and that's fine. I don't get a bunch of stuff that seem to turn on other people.
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"Can a guy be bratty? Either way, I don’t believe I am. Prone to the occasional sulk but that’s it.
Gay guys / trans can be bratty
ANYONE can be a brat
Dunno I like a laugh and can sometimes be up for the wind up but not sure I’d be pissing off someone I liked on a regular basis
No-one gets pissed off.
Do they not?
No. Mr KC either is very good at hiding being pissed off during sexy time, or his dominant side is enhanced by the brattiness I can show. It's like anything - if it's not something that floats your boat then you'll probably not get it, and that's fine. I don't get a bunch of stuff that seem to turn on other people.
Different strokes, different folks. And different hitty implements "
Good to hear it works for you guys.
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The more I have come to understand what might be termed as "brattish" behaviour, and what others may self-refer as "bratty", the more I believe the term has too broad a definition to be of any merit. It's highly specific to the individual, but as a broad catch-all I feel the term is meaningless.
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It's a bit like saying "those people are happy". But happy has so much nuance, that one person's happiness is completely different to anothers.
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The individual and the context are everything.
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A submissive once said to me, "Do you think I am bratty because I fight you?" and I replied, "No. You are asserting your submission so that I respect you and treat you with respect."
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I thought long and hard after the session and I came to the conclusion that her "brattishness" was partly a "defence mechanism" and also a reminder to respect her. The former did lead me to wonder sadly how previous doms had treated her to elicit such a mechanism.
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I've been thinking about this some more. There's some really interesting thoughtful posts on this thread in amongst the grumping.
For me, it's also something I might do earlier in a dynamic as a way of topping from the bottom. I don't want to directly ask for restraints to be tighter as that goes against how I submit, but I also need to let them know. So I'll wriggle out or say something a little cheeky. |
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By *aitonelMan 19 hours ago
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"Blimey, even this got angsty.
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Of course it did. Everything does. That's the ugly beauty of it all.
The best parts are when the self appointed "superiority" shows from those that don't really know or understand the workings of it. |
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