I wonder how long this one makes it before getting iced by the mods
Personally - patents and the social heirachey - scum is and always will be scum.
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"I wonder how long this one makes it before getting iced by the mods
Personally - patents and the social heirachey - scum is and always will be scum.
You can dress up in expensive clothes but you can't polish a turd..., fact."
Why would it get iced by the mods? It's a valid question? No? X |
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I'd have to say social breakdown! The rise of the chav and the ned coincided with the non discipline at school and at home brought in by the government!
When i was a kid, you knew what would happen when you got home if you got into trouble with the police! There are no deterrents nowadays for the unruly kids, who then grow up thinking the world owes them a living! |
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Society wouldn't breakdown nearly as quickly if manners and respect were more of a cornerstone in homes for more parents.
The less emphasis placed on bringing up kids properly, the more of those types of kids make it into the wider world and ruin things. |
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"Yes its a valid question
we have whole estates in brum that are just chavs ffs just not right"
Think the government/councils shouldn't build the estates very big,thats when you start seeing trouble! Its the parents who dont give a damm! I was at a busstop last week in a small town and a 2.5 year old and older sister around the age of 5 were throwing stones where the busses turn in. The mother didnt bat an eyelid. So kids think its okay to do things like that! |
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I think some of it is down the way society has changed over the years and decrease in communities.
Years ago when I was a kid my folks knew all the neighbours & their kids, if any of use misbehaved we got a clip round the ear from which every parent happened to be near, we were also taught to respect our elders & authority figures (teachers, police officers, lollipop ladies).
Over the years it's changed, we don't know our neighbours and would never contemplate telling someone else's child off for fear of arrest. Kids have started having kids and society is going down the pan because of it.
There is also a level of showing off to get on TV, if I had a problem, for example I didn't know who the father of my child was, I'd bury my head in shame & never tell a soul. That's not the same for everyone, they like the idea of getting a free night in a posh hotel and getting on TV. These are the people that are raising the kids of tomorrow...what chance have those kids got at been any different?
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"I'd have to say social breakdown! The rise of the chav and the ned coincided with the non discipline at school and at home brought in by the government!
When i was a kid, you knew what would happen when you got home if you got into trouble with the police! There are no deterrents nowadays for the unruly kids, who then grow up thinking the world owes them a living!"
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People who want to go on these shows fall mainly into two categories, the 1% for whom everything else has failed and they see that this may be a way to get help or to force / illicit a change in circumstances and the 99% who are happy to shamlessley whoar themsevles out on national TV for (what Andy Wharhol called) their 15 minutes of fame. For some I would imagine that it is a point of pride / honour to have appeared on such shows.
For those who watch them - there are the 1% who do so to see their mates / family on there to 'give them props' for achieving 15 minutes of notoriety. The other 99% sit there wrapped in a blanket of Schadenfreude; quietly congratulating themselves that, though they are watching it on TV, their lives are nothing like that and deriving sense of pleasure from it. |
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Not all people who appear to look like a chav are uneducated lowlife scrounges.
My youngest son is from a well educated family, we both worked full time, he had an excellent education, he's been in full time employment since leaving school - never taken a days sick leave in 6 years, he saved up £6k to buy a car so he'd have no debt, doesn't drink alcohol but he does smoke cigarettes.....and dresses like a stereotypical chav but is a very well spoken, polite, well mannered young man. |
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I watched a film yesterday with Luke Wilson in called idiocracy, where the world gets slowly stupider through the generations because the uneducated breed like rabbits, it was a comedy but the scary thing is I can see it happening, |
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"Some of the lasses look downright filthy ...... and I mean filthy in a sexual way, not an 'I haven't washed for days' way  "
Lol, and then you slowly slide their tracky bottoms down, and find they HAVEN'T washed for days! |
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"Not all people who appear to look like a chav are uneducated lowlife scrounges.
My youngest son is from a well educated family, we both worked full time, he had an excellent education, he's been in full time employment since leaving school - never taken a days sick leave in 6 years, he saved up £6k to buy a car so he'd have no debt, doesn't drink alcohol but he does smoke cigarettes.....and dresses like a stereotypical chav but is a very well spoken, polite, well mannered young man."
Indeed. My post was trying to avoid the notion of stereotyping - that all who appear on such shows are 'Chavs'.
Rather, its a state of mind, rather than a state of 'social status' - so to speak. |
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"I watched a film yesterday with Luke Wilson in called idiocracy, where the world gets slowly stupider through the generations because the uneducated breed like rabbits, it was a comedy but the scary thing is I can see it happening,"
Not if you pop round and share a pot of tea with one or two families. 'Adopt an Idiot' program - to pursue your description. |
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"I'd have to say social breakdown! The rise of the chav and the ned coincided with the non discipline at school and at home brought in by the government!
When i was a kid, you knew what would happen when you got home if you got into trouble with the police! There are no deterrents nowadays for the unruly kids, who then grow up thinking the world owes them a living!"
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I know the answer.
They were invented by Burberry in the early 90's as a publicity stunt that went terribly wrong. It involved splicing the genes of a baboon, a rat, the Burberry Check and a Greggs Cheese and Onion pastie. They are made in a large warehouse in Guangdong Province China. |
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"I watched a film yesterday with Luke Wilson in called idiocracy, where the world gets slowly stupider through the generations because the uneducated breed like rabbits, it was a comedy but the scary thing is I can see it happening,"
I saw that film years ago and funnily enough I was thinking of it as I was posting this thread. Brilliant film. Didn't it end up with a wrestler as president? Hahahaha x |
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"I know the answer.
They were invented by Burberry in the early 90's as a publicity stunt that went terribly wrong. It involved splicing the genes of a baboon, a rat, the Burberry Check and a Greggs Cheese and Onion pastie. They are made in a large warehouse in Guangdong Province China."
So if we make a trail of gregs to the ocean pied piper styley we could get rid of them?  |
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"I know the answer.
They were invented by Burberry in the early 90's as a publicity stunt that went terribly wrong. It involved splicing the genes of a baboon, a rat, the Burberry Check and a Greggs Cheese and Onion pastie. They are made in a large warehouse in Guangdong Province China.
So if we make a trail of gregs to the ocean pied piper styley we could get rid of them? "
It's a long shot but it just might work Godammit! |
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"Not all people who appear to look like a chav are uneducated lowlife scrounges.
My youngest son is from a well educated family, we both worked full time, he had an excellent education, he's been in full time employment since leaving school - never taken a days sick leave in 6 years, he saved up £6k to buy a car so he'd have no debt, doesn't drink alcohol but he does smoke cigarettes.....and dresses like a stereotypical chav but is a very well spoken, polite, well mannered young man."
Those of us who've faced their own stereotype know that. I was annoyed when my sister quipped at my daughters wedding "what a shame my niece has married a chav!"
Ex navy, ex marine, own company, own house, own car at age 24. Chav?!! I think not!  |
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"I watched a film yesterday with Luke Wilson in called idiocracy, where the world gets slowly stupider through the generations because the uneducated breed like rabbits, it was a comedy but the scary thing is I can see it happening,
I saw that film years ago and funnily enough I was thinking of it as I was posting this thread. Brilliant film. Didn't it end up with a wrestler as president? Hahahaha x"
Indeed it did, |
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"Not all people who appear to look like a chav are uneducated lowlife scrounges.
My youngest son is from a well educated family, we both worked full time, he had an excellent education, he's been in full time employment since leaving school - never taken a days sick leave in 6 years, he saved up £6k to buy a car so he'd have no debt, doesn't drink alcohol but he does smoke cigarettes.....and dresses like a stereotypical chav but is a very well spoken, polite, well mannered young man.
Those of us who've faced their own stereotype know that. I was annoyed when my sister quipped at my daughters wedding "what a shame my niece has married a chav!"
Ex navy, ex marine, own company, own house, own car at age 24. Chav?!! I think not! "
Prob just jealous and doesnt know what chav
Stands for C- council
H- house
A- and
V- violence
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By *smCouple
over a year ago
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as an aside..
The Chav's Prayer
Our father who art in prison,
Even mum knows not his name,
Thy chavdom come
You'll read the sun,
In Exmouth, which is in Devon,
Give us this day our welfare bread and
Forgive us our ASBO's as we happy slap those who got ASBO's against us
Lead us not into employment but deliver us free housing
For thine is the chavdom, the Burberry and the Barcardi
Forever and ever
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Round em up and kill em off.
I think that lack of discipline is the reason. You can't physically educate your child anymore, they don't respect anyone. They're scum. |
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Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
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"Some of the lasses look downright filthy ...... and I mean filthy in a sexual way, not an 'I haven't washed for days' way
Lol, and then you slowly slide their tracky bottoms down, and find they HAVEN'T washed for days! "
Haha that's grim. Perish the thought |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
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Neither. Chavs and neds have been about far longer than jezza has been on the air! He is exploiting a niche in the market i'll grant you. But, take him off the air and they will just congregate outside greggs! At least we know where they are when hes on air! |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
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Those who watch it. I blame all rubbish fed to viewers on tv on those who actually give rubbish the ratings they crave. This includes most "talent" shows. |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
Those who watch it. I blame all rubbish fed to viewers on tv on those who actually give rubbish the ratings they crave. This includes most "talent" shows."
You are not wrong if nobody watched it then it wouldn't be made. |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
Those who watch it. I blame all rubbish fed to viewers on tv on those who actually give rubbish the ratings they crave. This includes most "talent" shows.
You are not wrong if nobody watched it then it wouldn't be made. "
So, would all the chavs then just disappear if Jezza wasn't on air to give them their 15mins of fame? I think not! |
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So, would all the chavs then just disappear if Jezza wasn't on air to give them their 15mins of fame? I think not!"
No, but it wouldn't be the "highlight" o daytime tv that it is for some. There are many who view getting on the Jeremy Kyle show as a badge of honour. Which encourages more bad behaviour and the cycle continues evermore. |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
Those who watch it. I blame all rubbish fed to viewers on tv on those who actually give rubbish the ratings they crave. This includes most "talent" shows.
You are not wrong if nobody watched it then it wouldn't be made.
So, would all the chavs then just disappear if Jezza wasn't on air to give them their 15mins of fame? I think not!"
The 'Chavs' as you call them have always been there. The notoriety and shameless self-promotion of the 'lifestyle' coupled with the increase in public reaction and attitudes is what's changed. |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
Those who watch it. I blame all rubbish fed to viewers on tv on those who actually give rubbish the ratings they crave. This includes most "talent" shows.
You are not wrong if nobody watched it then it wouldn't be made.
So, would all the chavs then just disappear if Jezza wasn't on air to give them their 15mins of fame? I think not!
The 'Chavs' as you call them have always been there. The notoriety and shameless self-promotion of the 'lifestyle' coupled with the increase in public reaction and attitudes is what's changed. "
Exactly the point i'm making! Jezza is exploiting these people with his 'show'. They've been about a LOT longer than his 'show' and will be about a LOT longer after hes drawing his pension. |
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How to turn urself into a chav:
1. Ditch all normal and perfectly acceptable clothes, and wear some shabby tracksuit. Oh dear, u noticed that the trousers are too small, ah well tuck 'em in ur bright yellow socks n no1 will notice.............yea rite.
2. Grab urself a baseball cap and any old chains that look sparkly....
3. Now, shove your hands in ur v. tredy tracksuit pockets and learn the chav walk- sweep each shoulder down, forwards and then upwards making an arch and drag your body along with your shoulders.
4. Now, light a cigarette and suck ur life away on it (some how thinking this is the coolest thing to do).
5. The most important thing to to learn to speak propa. this cannot be taught, like most accents im afraid you'll actually have to hang around with the chaves and hope to just pick it up.
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"I love chams I think everyone should have one .
I love chams too x"
Lmao I hate iPhone keypads with my sausage thumbs but I do love chams but I meant to say chavs |
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" 3. Now, shove your hands in ur v. tredy tracksuit pockets and learn the chav walk- sweep each shoulder down, forwards and then upwards making an arch and drag your body along with your shoulders.
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You mean down the front of their tracksuit bottoms surely? |
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" 3. Now, shove your hands in ur v. tredy tracksuit pockets and learn the chav walk- sweep each shoulder down, forwards and then upwards making an arch and drag your body along with your shoulders.
You mean down the front of their tracksuit bottoms surely?"
well just shove your hand down .. lol need to get the walk right , Cant with out doing that . |
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"How to turn urself into a chav:
1. Ditch all normal and perfectly acceptable clothes, and wear some shabby tracksuit. Oh dear, u noticed that the trousers are too small, ah well tuck 'em in ur bright yellow socks n no1 will notice.............yea rite.
2. Grab urself a baseball cap and any old chains that look sparkly....
3. Now, shove your hands in ur v. tredy tracksuit pockets and learn the chav walk- sweep each shoulder down, forwards and then upwards making an arch and drag your body along with your shoulders.
4. Now, light a cigarette and suck ur life away on it (some how thinking this is the coolest thing to do).
5. The most important thing to to learn to speak propa. this cannot be taught, like most accents im afraid you'll actually have to hang around with the chaves and hope to just pick it up.
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You forgot to tell them to pull their boxers up to their belly button and their trackies halfway down their ass! |
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"How to turn urself into a chav:
1. Ditch all normal and perfectly acceptable clothes, and wear some shabby tracksuit. Oh dear, u noticed that the trousers are too small, ah well tuck 'em in ur bright yellow socks n no1 will notice.............yea rite.
2. Grab urself a baseball cap and any old chains that look sparkly....
3. Now, shove your hands in ur v. tredy tracksuit pockets and learn the chav walk- sweep each shoulder down, forwards and then upwards making an arch and drag your body along with your shoulders.
4. Now, light a cigarette and suck ur life away on it (some how thinking this is the coolest thing to do).
5. The most important thing to to learn to speak propa. this cannot be taught, like most accents im afraid you'll actually have to hang around with the chaves and hope to just pick it up.
You forgot to tell them to pull their boxers up to their belly button and their trackies halfway down their ass! "
ok well you can add to this , lol |
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I have quite an idea on this but you can wait for my input till i get home from work as i will talk to myself and have an outloud rant and i always end up next to the public transport nutter as it is. |
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"Ok, question to the forum then.
Who are most to blame?
- Those who appear on these shows and give it life?
- Those who watch it and give it power and credence?
Those who watch it. I blame all rubbish fed to viewers on tv on those who actually give rubbish the ratings they crave. This includes most "talent" shows.
You are not wrong if nobody watched it then it wouldn't be made.
So, would all the chavs then just disappear if Jezza wasn't on air to give them their 15mins of fame? I think not!
The 'Chavs' as you call them have always been there. The notoriety and shameless self-promotion of the 'lifestyle' coupled with the increase in public reaction and attitudes is what's changed.
Exactly the point i'm making! Jezza is exploiting these people with his 'show'. They've been about a LOT longer than his 'show' and will be about a LOT longer after hes drawing his pension. "
Yet all of the power lies with the viewer and the judicious application of the 'Off' button.
When no one is watching, the most visible of things becomes invisible to all but itself. |
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"Oh and the re-introduction of animal blood sacrifices in Britain in the 60's"
No no you silly boy! It was all down to the Treaty of Versailles .. Or was it the banning of women on stage? Hang on, hang on, it was the onset of the Enlightenment. The age of science and reason is the cause of all ill winds blowing nobody any good and making us all forget to sweep our chimneys. How could I forget?  |
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Before making a judgement research
1 eugenics society
2 bilderberg group
3 Fabian society
4 common purpose
5 Rockefeller institute
6 Edger Bernese's the art of propaganda/ PR
Then you will learn why this under class has been created and for what purpose.
BOTTOM UP TOP DOWN MIDDLE OUT.!!!! |
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"Before making a judgement research
1 eugenics society
2 bilderberg group
3 Fabian society
4 common purpose
5 Rockefeller institute
6 Edger Bernese's the art of propaganda/ PR
Then you will learn why this under class has been created and for what purpose.
BOTTOM UP TOP DOWN MIDDLE OUT.!!!! "
I thought they were created when brother and sister mated? No? I will research more x |
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"Before making a judgement research
1 eugenics society
2 bilderberg group
3 Fabian society
4 common purpose
5 Rockefeller institute
6 Edger Bernese's the art of propaganda/ PR
Then you will learn why this under class has been created and for what purpose.
BOTTOM UP TOP DOWN MIDDLE OUT.!!!! "
Finally someone dared say it!
Add also No. 7 Bezmenov : how to subvert western society |
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"Before making a judgement research
1 eugenics society
2 bilderberg group
3 Fabian society
4 common purpose
5 Rockefeller institute
6 Edger Bernese's the art of propaganda
I will research more x"
You do realise it will take you 15 yrs to fully research these things?  |
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"Before making a judgement research
1 eugenics society
2 bilderberg group
3 Fabian society
4 common purpose
5 Rockefeller institute
6 Edger Bernese's the art of propaganda
I will research more x
You do realise it will take you 15 yrs to fully research these things? "
Just a few things to try and wake a few people up things are not just as simple as most people think.. To save a bit of time time just watch THRIVE on YouTube or some of the other great documentaries on the subjects... |
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"Before making a judgement research
1 eugenics society
2 bilderberg group
3 Fabian society
4 common purpose
5 Rockefeller institute
6 Edger Bernese's the art of propaganda/ PR
Then you will learn why this under class has been created and for what purpose.
BOTTOM UP TOP DOWN MIDDLE OUT.!!!!
Finally someone dared say it!
Add also No. 7 Bezmenov : how to subvert western society "
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The bilderberg group refined the 1930s Frankfurt school 50 step agenda in the fifties and the 1967 Rockefeller papers finished the job and put it on the fast track its almost done now just a few more false flags away and hey presto job done.... |
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By *picenicelyCouple
over a year ago
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"I'd have to say social breakdown! The rise of the chav and the ned coincided with the non discipline at school and at home brought in by the government!
When i was a kid, you knew what would happen when you got home if you got into trouble with the police! There are no deterrents nowadays for the unruly kids, who then grow up thinking the world owes them a living!"
I have a perfect example of the culmination of these points: a child I work with has been told by his family that I (or other adults) can't make him do anything (ie school work)
He will refuse and when we don't let him do his chosen activity and he begins throwing things at me(/us) and starts physically assaulting me. As we I tried to restrain him yesterday he tried repeatedly to stab me and threatened to stab himself (he did have a very sharp blade)
Its is the fault of the adults that he did this according to mum. He has been told to assault us if we touch him.
She believes that we are failing him because we can't get him to learn.
After sending one adult to hospital and seriously injuring 3 more. His mum congratulated him and he came back the next day and assaulted 4 again our fault and he 'did the right thing' and got new clothes.
I'd also like to add that this child is under 10 and therefore below the age of criminal responsibility.
Btw we are also supposed to improve his behaviour at home.
Jezza indeed.
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"These horrible little Jeremy Kyle creatures. What do you think has made them? Is it social breakdown or fuckwit parents? Go"
The reality is the number of Kyle show fuckwit contestants are low and they are actively sort and offered a posh hotel and a night on expenses to get them there. Saying that though it doesn't manufacture them or I presume not so they come from how life has seen them brought up either by family or who ever.  |
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