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Was sat charging my car earlier and it made me think if anyone played or met people while stuck in the car charging for an hour or two.
I think the Portsmouth dogging scene is dying out (the old places anyway) but it seems like it might be hot to try. |
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Ev vehicles are pointless. Crap range too long to charge. If you use fast charge points it as expensive as petrol or diesel. Most charge points are out of order or not been commissioned for use. They destroy our roads with being heavier. |
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By *ags73Man 1 week ago
glasgow-ish |
"I’d rather have a car with an engine myself
Always thought the same but since I got one, I don't think I'd go back. Loads of fun to drive and instant power."
It’s the range. I need to get south on occasion and the like for like for what I have is 168 miles after you knockoff the recommended 10% on what manufacturers claim
Idea of it struggling to get to Manchester from here a huge no for me. |
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"I’d rather have a car with an engine myself
Always thought the same but since I got one, I don't think I'd go back. Loads of fun to drive and instant power.
It’s the range. I need to get south on occasion and the like for like for what I have is 168 miles after you knockoff the recommended 10% on what manufacturers claim
Idea of it struggling to get to Manchester from here a huge no for me."
Mine does nearly 300 and I charge at a greene king pub with fast charging (about 1hr and a half) so by the time I've stopped for a bite to eat and a drink its done.
I regularly go up to London and Birmingham and its not half the hassel I thought it would be. |
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By *ags73Man 1 week ago
glasgow-ish |
"I’d rather have a car with an engine myself
Always thought the same but since I got one, I don't think I'd go back. Loads of fun to drive and instant power.
It’s the range. I need to get south on occasion and the like for like for what I have is 168 miles after you knockoff the recommended 10% on what manufacturers claim
Idea of it struggling to get to Manchester from here a huge no for me.
Mine does nearly 300 and I charge at a greene king pub with fast charging (about 1hr and a half) so by the time I've stopped for a bite to eat and a drink its done.
I regularly go up to London and Birmingham and its not half the hassel I thought it would be."
I think you’re fortunate with that.
I’ll hope I can get away with internal combustion as long as possible |
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"I’d rather have a car with an engine myself
Always thought the same but since I got one, I don't think I'd go back. Loads of fun to drive and instant power."
Until the batteries start to decay but they've actually made one that the bodywork of the car is a solar panel and its completely charge free runs on solar power does 0 to 60 in 4 seconds and can do 120 mph but you'd have to move to California. |
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I’m guessing that charging points aren’t exactly in private/discreet locations? So the likelihood of being seen increases, and law potentially being broken. Probably better do the regular dogging instead. |
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"I’m guessing that charging points aren’t exactly in private/discreet locations? So the likelihood of being seen increases, and law potentially being broken. Probably better do the regular dogging instead. "
I was about to say something similar.
It sounds like a good way to pass the time but most charging points round here are on garage forecourts. |
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As above all the charging points are in prime locations and in full view of everyone.
You'd be really lucky to scratch your balls or sort out a wedgie without being seen.
No chance of fun I don't think 🤣 |
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"Should have guessed this would turn into a "my petrol car's better than electric" thread. 
My point was more about fun while waiting in a car!"
With respects though op, your point is quite frankly bizarre.
I too own an EV and the thought of this public voyeurism would be the last thing in my head and I'm guessing most other EV owners I've met... |
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By *C44Man 1 week ago
Ipswich |
"Should have guessed this would turn into a "my petrol car's better than electric" thread.
My point was more about fun while waiting in a car!"
Inevitable
I'll be sticking to my 30yr old diesel truck which is the best car ever made, that's a hill I'll die on, mainly because it's so slow I'd be dead by the time I got to the top of it |
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By *2thomMan 1 week ago
Norwich |
"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?"
About 45mins on a quick charge if you’re going to want near 100%. Whole idea is get enough to get you home, home chargers are about 7 hours |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
About 45mins on a quick charge if you’re going to want near 100%. Whole idea is get enough to get you home, home chargers are about 7 hours"
3 phase (fast) chargers* are 7 hours
Plugging into a 13a mains socket 24+ if you're talking full charge... |
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By *2thomMan 1 week ago
Norwich |
"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
About 45mins on a quick charge if you’re going to want near 100%. Whole idea is get enough to get you home, home chargers are about 7 hours
3 phase (fast) chargers* are 7 hours
Plugging into a 13a mains socket 24+ if you're talking full charge..."
Its rare for an EV owner to charge a mains plug out the window. I used to and it was long and made the house cold haha |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
About 45mins on a quick charge if you’re going to want near 100%. Whole idea is get enough to get you home, home chargers are about 7 hours
3 phase (fast) chargers* are 7 hours
Plugging into a 13a mains socket 24+ if you're talking full charge...
Its rare for an EV owner to charge a mains plug out the window. I used to and it was long and made the house cold haha"
I wouldn't say "rare". I've done it a few times when necessary/possible and know people that do that also. I would say more that it's not the standard, day to day method people use to charge them, but I do know 1 or 2 who only really have that option so |
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Thanks for everyone who wrote in the forum. Believe it or not I didn't mean to open a big can of worms.
It was just a thought/fantasy while waiting for my car to charge. I've been at plenty late night with not a sole around and obviously being the pervert I am my mind went there.
A lot of the points raised are totally valid and probably why it doesn't happen, just wondered thats all. |
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By *ags73Man 1 week ago
glasgow-ish |
"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
About 45mins on a quick charge if you’re going to want near 100%. Whole idea is get enough to get you home, home chargers are about 7 hours
3 phase (fast) chargers* are 7 hours
Plugging into a 13a mains socket 24+ if you're talking full charge..."
Erm
The stuff I’ve looked at and had to look at was meaning a 9-11 hr charge on a 7.5KW home charger. That’s the default that electricity companies offer and frankly it’s shit, but better than using the conventional plug.
The 11KW home charger is a lot faster but good luck in finding a utility company that’ll supply it
I think people are being taken piss out of with what’s offered by the car manufacturer as a freebie on EVs or by the electricity companies |
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By *ags73Man 1 week ago
glasgow-ish |
"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
About 45mins on a quick charge if you’re going to want near 100%. Whole idea is get enough to get you home, home chargers are about 7 hours
3 phase (fast) chargers* are 7 hours
Plugging into a 13a mains socket 24+ if you're talking full charge...
Erm
The stuff I’ve looked at and had to look at was meaning a 9-11 hr charge on a 7.5KW home charger. That’s the default that electricity companies offer and frankly it’s shit, but better than using the conventional plug.
The 11KW home charger is a lot faster but good luck in finding a utility company that’ll supply it
I think people are being taken piss out of with what’s offered by the car manufacturer as a freebie on EVs or by the electricity companies "
Sorry may have typed KW and meant KV. It’s Sunday so please forgive me |
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By *bi HaiveMan 1 week ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
I could never go full electric.
Living in a flat there's no scope for a home charger, there's not exactly an abundance of charging points locally and the fact I do a lot of miles for work and all my family and my partner live miles away means I'd forever be paranoid about not being able to get to them in case of emergency.
A hybrid, maybe. But EV's just aren't practical for me and many others.
As for the OP's question? The few times I've indulged in outdoor car fun I've liked the fact I can choose where to be, rather than the location be defined by where I could plug my car in. EV points don't tend to be off the beaten track.
I could probably happily binge Netflix whilst waiting though. Or just browse Fab. 🤷♂️ |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?"
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked. |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked."
£80 of diesel would give you about 5-600 miles at a guess.
What range did your £21.61 buy you. I’ve always been curious about the comparative cost per mile, as that would ultimately sway my decision if I ever considered any switch. |
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By *ags73Man 1 week ago
glasgow-ish |
"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked."
Rollout of disabled EV points is way behind what it should be |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked.
£80 of diesel would give you about 5-600 miles at a guess.
What range did your £21.61 buy you. I’ve always been curious about the comparative cost per mile, as that would ultimately sway my decision if I ever considered any switch."
Good question and the answer is very variable, depending on the outdoor temperature and all sorts like that. The range is definitely reduced a fair bit in cold weather but this was in July. I can't recall the precise range but the absolute maximum for the vehicle is supposed to be 200 miles ish. It's an older model so more recent ones have much more efficient batteries. However, I so rarely travel far enough to worry about it. We got a rapid home charger for £500 when we bought the car and use the Octopus EV tariff, which is incredibly economical and cheaper doing our regular commute etc than my old diesel Renault (2012 model). There is also very little mechanically to go wrong. |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked.
Rollout of disabled EV points is way behind what it should be "
They have loads of them here in España. Marked out for disabled people and enforced as such. I can't understand why the UK can't do the same. Even the local little supermarket has 1 EV charge point in a "Blue Badge" bay. As does the hotel. |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked.
£80 of diesel would give you about 5-600 miles at a guess.
What range did your £21.61 buy you. I’ve always been curious about the comparative cost per mile, as that would ultimately sway my decision if I ever considered any switch."
The range on my car is 270 miles in summer and 230 on winter
A full charge costs about £14 on my home charger, similar at my work
Charge rates elsewhere vary with the most expensive being motorway generally
A fast charger costs me around £30-£35 for 90% which takes between 45 and 60 minutes
It's worth saying mine is a company car and so the current tax benefit is significant and makes an electric car by far the most cost effective option for me despite the additional challenges |
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Our car has built in privacy screens in the back so we'll probs have a crack at it, and for the anti ev lot my car is on 800v technology it'll go 10-80% in 18 minutes so about 250 miles think I can nut well before that time though 😂 just need to find a ev charger that's in a darkish place |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked.
£80 of diesel would give you about 5-600 miles at a guess.
What range did your £21.61 buy you. I’ve always been curious about the comparative cost per mile, as that would ultimately sway my decision if I ever considered any switch."
Public charge points are expensive so it's not fair to compare that, as she said, this was once in a year. At a guess, it probably costs about £6-9 at home to charge from 10% up to 100% for them. But that can be confirmed
With my set up, it costs me £12 for a similar charge and that gives me on average about 250miles, but that is by no means the cheapest ive seen. my petrol car used to cost £56 for about 340miles. |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?"
Effectively no time at all. When I go from London to Birmingham I stop off at Warwick services, plug into a supercharger, have a pee, queue for a coffee, and by the time I’ve had a sip the car’s charged enough to get me to Birmingham and home again with ~25% left in the battery. The Warwick superchargers are not the new faster ones.
So not enough time for a BJ, though if anyone’s offering to do some field testing with me let me know  |
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"Genuine question from someone who doesn’t own an EV - how long do you actually spend waiting for a charge? Would you have time for one meet or five?
In almost a year of EV ownership, I've only used a public charge point once and it was to charge from almost zero battery (remaining range 13 miles). It took 34min and I was frankly shocked at a) how quick and b) how cheap it was. It cost me £21.61 to charge from almost zero to 90%. This is for an Audi which if it had a diesel engine would easily cost £70-80 to fill.
This was in the Lake District btw.
My only complaint is that the charge point was not designed to be wheelchair accessible and so I had to rely on an end charge point being available, which there was. I could not have manouvered and opened my door in a middle bay and I could only operate the charger via the app because I couldn't reach the screen on the machine to operate it that way. But no matter, it worked.
£80 of diesel would give you about 5-600 miles at a guess.
What range did your £21.61 buy you. I’ve always been curious about the comparative cost per mile, as that would ultimately sway my decision if I ever considered any switch.
Public charge points are expensive so it's not fair to compare that, as she said, this was once in a year. At a guess, it probably costs about £6-9 at home to charge from 10% up to 100% for them. But that can be confirmed
With my set up, it costs me £12 for a similar charge and that gives me on average about 250miles, but that is by no means the cheapest ive seen. my petrol car used to cost £56 for about 340miles."
Our EV home electricity tariff is 6.67p per kWh and the useable battery capacity is approx 65kWh. So, at home, it would be £4.34 in purely the tariff charge. Obviously there's the daily standing charge too, which is 47.6p a day. Basically, it's incredibly cheap to charge on the overnight EV tariff. |
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By *aitonelMan 1 week ago
Away for Christmas |
"Thanks for everyone who wrote in the forum. Believe it or not I didn't mean to open a big can of worms.
It was just a thought/fantasy while waiting for my car to charge. I've been at plenty late night with not a sole around and obviously being the pervert I am my mind went there.
A lot of the points raised are totally valid and probably why it doesn't happen, just wondered thats all."
As with everything else it often turns in to a dick swinging contest. It's pretty hilarious to see the cope and desperation on both sides trying to justify their like/dislike/decision. |
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"Thanks for everyone who wrote in the forum. Believe it or not I didn't mean to open a big can of worms.
It was just a thought/fantasy while waiting for my car to charge. I've been at plenty late night with not a sole around and obviously being the pervert I am my mind went there.
A lot of the points raised are totally valid and probably why it doesn't happen, just wondered thats all.
As with everything else it often turns in to a dick swinging contest. It's pretty hilarious to see the cope and desperation on both sides trying to justify their like/dislike/decision."
Not to mention the dogging. People are talking about charging and drinking coffee…  |
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Love my EV.
It charges up so quick at Services there is barely time for a sandwich and a wee.
I also have a small petrol car in my collection of vehicles - it can go longer range but costs a lot more.
My first car as a sprog was a 2.0S Capri, so I am petrol-head - only did 22mpg. Had a 2.8i Capri, for a year, sold it was a nightmare to drive.
My EV does 0 to 60 in 6.7 seconds, faster than my 2.8i Capri and more seats. It also does 100 miles for £1. And drives itself. |
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I believe this has already been named as Chogging. The only time a fast charger is less useful.
As for the other discussion about how convenient EV’s are. I had no choice but to switch into a Tesla for my company car and although I had reservations I have found it easy. I charge over night at home and then usually once or twice at a supercharger if I’m working 260 plus miles away. The car plans it all for me and a charge takes 15/20mins. Sometimes faster and I’m rushing in the services as it’s finished too quickly. |
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