"Have you noticed there's never a Maggie Thatcher around when you need one?
Would have been gone long since.
Teresa May, but then again she may not.  "
Even Thatcher couldn't have acted outside of the law.... |
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"The wonders of human rights I suppose....
It's nothing new....we signed up to an accord many years ago
As much as I believe we deserve some rights... some are just taken to the extreme... "
I think protection against extracting information through torture isn't extreme myself.... |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"The wonders of human rights I suppose....
It's nothing new....we signed up to an accord many years ago
As much as I believe we deserve some rights... some are just taken to the extreme... "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Government and lots more blame this on eurpoean courts and our human rights act be under no illusion that our courts have also blocked his deportation. Why because clearly in international law torture is illegal and trials for anyone who may be found guilty because being told under pressure what to say is dangerous.
I doubt anyone under torture would not break and confess to anything
Yes i totally agree this twat should not be here but risk of government using human right act as smokescreen to bring in the snoopers charter currently in parliament is a major worry.
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"The wonders of human rights I suppose....
It's nothing new....we signed up to an accord many years ago
As much as I believe we deserve some rights... some are just taken to the extreme...
I think protection against extracting information through torture isn't extreme myself...."
That never crossed my mind when posting my comment... toture is not the way to go in extracting information... however paying for someone who does not deserve to be in this country is another thing... |
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"Perhaps one of the judges would like to have him stay at their house with their family, just so he can keep an eye on him"
or maybe we could actually put accused people on trial and hear the evidence which is a right that you and i are entitled to if accused of lots of other alleged offences..
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"Perhaps one of the judges would like to have him stay at their house with their family, just so he can keep an eye on him
or maybe we could actually put accused people on trial and hear the evidence which is a right that you and i are entitled to if accused of lots of other alleged offences..
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"This guy is costing the country a fortune. I'm amazed that he hasn't been assassinated."
There's many a country where he would simply have 'disappeared' by now.
That's not a country I'd want to live in. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"This guy is costing the country a fortune. I'm amazed that he hasn't been assassinated.
There's many a country where he would simply have 'disappeared' by now.
That's not a country I'd want to live in."
While I think as stated above that the whole issue is farcical, I completely agree with you on that fact. I would not wish to live somewhere where human rights were not respected. |
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"This guy is costing the country a fortune. I'm amazed that he hasn't been assassinated.
There's many a country where he would simply have 'disappeared' by now.
That's not a country I'd want to live in."
Well hopefully we don't under most circumstances but saying that he is an evil man and someone i won't be sad to see leave by whatever means. |
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It would be nice if our government would actually obey the laws they were instrumental in creating. Don't know exactly what he is guilty of in this country, but if there are charges bring them. All this time and money has been spent on an attempted extradition to a place that uk and European laws forbid extradition to. Technically he is an innocent man in our jail.
If he has committed a crime then lock him up, if not then let him out. No reason to spend all this cash, it only gathers extremist supporters to a cause held in his name. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
Extraditing him to face torture - what does that say about a civilised, modern and enlightened country?
I may not like Abu Qatada but I am glad we have a judiciary able and willing to uphold the law.
On a really frivolous note I can't hear his name without hearing "Av a banana" in my head. |
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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago
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Hmmm, this torture thing. Is torture ever acceptable? Easy answer is "No". However if someone had kidnapped your kids and wouldn't say where they were what would you do? I know I would torture them. I'd also torture paedophiles for the rest of their lives. |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
"They should have put Abu Qatada in a council flat in Hume in Manchester. He would have left of his own choice.  "
Theres some damn fancy flats in Hulme these days  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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" .............. Don't know exactly what he is guilty of . Technically he is an innocent man in our jail.
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At the moment he's in jail for breach of his bail conditions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This guy is costing the country a fortune. I'm amazed that he hasn't been assassinated.
There's many a country where he would simply have 'disappeared' by now.
That's not a country I'd want to live in."
I have lived in those countries and you're correct it's horrifying. During Marcos era in the Philippines 1000's disappeared, Ethiopia in the 80's same thing, Bangladesh, Algeria etc. human rights need to be followed or worse things come as all of those countries discovered. |
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"May I suggest he 'wins' a 5 star, all expenses paid 2 week vacation to DisneyWorld, Florida?
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Excellent plan, then we can strip any citizenship whilst he is away  let the yanks sort him out |
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"At the moment he's in jail for breach of his bail conditions."
I am playing devils advocate a bit here as I would also like him gone from the UK, BUT he was on bail for no offence... as he has not been charged with any in this country. it appears that some internet documents found need to be checked to see if he wrote them, and if they are terrorist related.
My gut feeling is that he is considered a flight risk, seems the solution is self explanatory let him try his luck and everyone's patience in another country. |
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The main problem seems to be that there's no danger of him flying!
If he was likely to flee the UK I don't think he would be stopped.
Unfortunately he feels safe in the UK.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why kick him out you kick him out he gets pissed off he comes back to blow something up if he is so dangerous keep him here where we can keep an eye on him propergander me thinks wake up people |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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A friend of mine on here suggested the following comment for consideration/ discussion:
"How about stopping his benefits and legal aid? Quite simple and perhaps he might leave of his own accord then?" |
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"A friend of mine on here suggested the following comment for consideration/ discussion:
"How about stopping his benefits and legal aid? Quite simple and perhaps he might leave of his own accord then?""
What UK laws has he broken to deserve that ? |
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or am I being simplistic? 