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By *lueroo OP Man 8 weeks ago
Bridgwater |
after watching my parents both admitted to a care home, one with dementia, and the other with parkinsons watching the level of care they recieved paying £1800 per week dementia care,and £1500 per week i think they should be called don't care homes.
owned by the council with staff on mininmum wage many not fluent in english and definitely understaffed.
when admitted to the home my father said outright he had come there to die,he wasn't wrong. |
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You can't really tar everyone with the same brush due to your bad experiences. I know it must have been a horrible time for you but every home is different and many of the staff treat residents like family members and are heartbroken when they pass. |
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That's quite a sum pw. My aunt was in one as I remember at £2600 (maybe 5 years ago now), but I think that was monthly - no it's doubt increased. To care for dementia patients you don't just need facilities and qualified care staff but also specialist nurses or there's issues around meds/emergency meds if needed to be given |
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By *lueroo OP Man 8 weeks ago
Bridgwater |
"That's quite a sum pw. My aunt was in one as I remember at £2600 (maybe 5 years ago now), but I think that was monthly - no it's doubt increased. To care for dementia patients you don't just need facilities and qualified care staff but also specialist nurses or there's issues around meds/emergency meds if needed to be given"
my mother was admitted to hospital with a bed sore that had got so bad her spinal column was exposed, despite the best care of the hospital she passed from sepsis caused by the bed sore.
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"just a couple had any compassion, a workmates wife works part time there and says nearly all the staff are agency."
This sounds more like a recruitment and terms and conditions of employment issue |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS 8 weeks ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
"just a couple had any compassion, a workmates wife works part time there and says nearly all the staff are agency."
These places pay minimum wage and are often understaffed in order not to hurt the profit margin.
By definition, any other job won't be paid any less and you most likely won't have the worry of someone dying and you ending up carrying the can. |
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Unfortunately, care is very misunderstood profession (yes, I work in care myself, with adults with learning disabilities). You need a lot of skill, but also a set of personal values to work in care well. Yet you don't need any qualifications, and many agencies don't even do any interviews to establish people's values beforehand. You could, technically, walk in from the street one day, sort out your paperwork, spend a few hours in front of the computer doing basic training (it's way cheaper than going for in-person training) and be working the next day.
I'm sure a lot of staff are doing their best with the resources they have, whereas some staff have no clue and don't care.
Cost of care is unbelievable, but most actually goes towards the profits of the companies, not towards the actual care. |
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"just a couple had any compassion, a workmates wife works part time there and says nearly all the staff are agency."
That's because it's hard to fill the permanent posts which is mainly down to the poor wages, long shifts and unsociable hours which includes weekends. Also, whilst you are sitting down to your Xmas Dinner many staff will be working their shifts without being paid an extra penny which is shocking. |
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They can be dismal places for sure
My mum had respite care in various different care homes and they were all much the same. Friendly staff, fairly decent common areas, activities daily. When you consider everything is provided from staff round the clock, food, drink, washing done, some personal care, heating etc etc the cost is cheap.
I'm sure some are awful and I'd always make sure I turned up to see my mum at various times just to see how things were. I also chatted to staff, made sure I was friendly with them but also made sure they knew I was alert to any problems. My mum wouldn't ask for things so I asked for her but also made staff aware that they needed to ask her outright if she needed anything to drink in the night for example. Working with the home rather against them makes a big difference I found. |
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"just a couple had any compassion, a workmates wife works part time there and says nearly all the staff are agency.
That's because it's hard to fill the permanent posts which is mainly down to the poor wages, long shifts and unsociable hours which includes weekends. Also, whilst you are sitting down to your Xmas Dinner many staff will be working their shifts without being paid an extra penny which is shocking."
Yes it is shocking. What I find really shocking is that we place such little value on carers. If they were paid what they're worth care would be out of the reach of most of us |
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"They can be dismal places for sure
My mum had respite care in various different care homes and they were all much the same. Friendly staff, fairly decent common areas, activities daily. When you consider everything is provided from staff round the clock, food, drink, washing done, some personal care, heating etc etc the cost is cheap.
I'm sure some are awful and I'd always make sure I turned up to see my mum at various times just to see how things were. I also chatted to staff, made sure I was friendly with them but also made sure they knew I was alert to any problems. My mum wouldn't ask for things so I asked for her but also made staff aware that they needed to ask her outright if she needed anything to drink in the night for example. Working with the home rather against them makes a big difference I found. "
Thank you for this. Some family members are very nice and appreciate the work the carers do, while some family members won’t even appreciate the work someone else is doing for their parent if when they can’t do it themselves. This is not to say all carers do their jobs well though.
One thing I always tell people is to make sure they do regular visits to wherever the care home their loved ones are. If you make them feel like they have no families it won’t help. |
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"They can be dismal places for sure
My mum had respite care in various different care homes and they were all much the same. Friendly staff, fairly decent common areas, activities daily. When you consider everything is provided from staff round the clock, food, drink, washing done, some personal care, heating etc etc the cost is cheap.
I'm sure some are awful and I'd always make sure I turned up to see my mum at various times just to see how things were. I also chatted to staff, made sure I was friendly with them but also made sure they knew I was alert to any problems. My mum wouldn't ask for things so I asked for her but also made staff aware that they needed to ask her outright if she needed anything to drink in the night for example. Working with the home rather against them makes a big difference I found.
Thank you for this. Some family members are very nice and appreciate the work the carers do, while some family members won’t even appreciate the work someone else is doing for their parent if when they can’t do it themselves. This is not to say all carers do their jobs well though.
One thing I always tell people is to make sure they do regular visits to wherever the care home their loved ones are. If you make them feel like they have no families it won’t help."
I sometimes noticed relatives treating care home staff like servants or talking down to them. I think the operative word is 'home'. Treat it as if it's your parent or relatives home (because it is)and you won't go far wrong. |
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By *a LunaWoman 8 weeks ago
South Wales |
The care industry is in dire straits.
Both homes and domiciliary care.
Getting staff that want to work is the biggest hurdle. Our main applicants are those from overseas who want to be sponsored to work in the UK. Then it’s those who only want to work 16 hours or less.
Getting Councils to fund new care packages is another issue, which is incredible considering that Hospitals are constantly banging on about bed blocking.
It’s not a well paid industry, care staff are often treated like shit by those they are there to care for and families expect the world when half the time they can barely be arsed to pick up the phone and see how their relative is doing.
If you work for a good home/care agency, then you’re bloody lucky.
If you manage to get funding for care these days, you’re bloody lucky.
If you get a social worker that doesn’t try to palm you off asap you’re bloody lucky.
I tell you, it’s gone to the dogs.
And I say that as someone who works in the industry.
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Both my parents went to the same care home and the level of care they were provided was first rate. My mother passed quickly but my dad had a full year there and it was heartwarming to see how much he enjoyed the last year of his life.
Pretty much all local staff too so not all homes are the same. |
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