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By *hagTonight OP   Man 5 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

Have you also heard the news about it of what they want to do and was you as surprised as me to know about it? The news is about climate change and how they want to tackle it.

The big news is that arla, which is britains biggest dairy cooperative have started a new project to trial the use of bovear additive to cows, the reason behind it is to reduce the climate emission from cows by 27% by reducing their farts and burps,

They have already began selling this "climate milk" over a year ago in norway, there noone wanted to buy it.

Many people have been very upset about it and are calling for a boycott of arla dairy products.

What do you think about it and is it a wise move from them knowing that it didnt go so well from them there?

I think that it wont be popular with the customers and that they eventually have to stop the trial of it

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

It's a cow ... it burps and farts ... it doesn't need drugs ...

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By *riar BelisseWoman 5 weeks ago

Delightful Bliss

It's been tested for 10 years shag, with 150 trials used across the world, with 85 peer reviewed papers. If it works here, it's here to stay, climate change is here and we need to slow it down. If people won't buy less cow products, then cow testing will go on.

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By *ellhungvweMan 5 weeks ago

Cheltenham

Sounds like a lot of hot air to me.

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By *aven3Man 5 weeks ago

Stoford

I was reading a very interesting FB post on the operation of the bovine stomachs.This should not be interfered with, Methane makes up just 0.00017% of the atmosphere.Anyone who believes this is about climate,is an idiot.

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By *icecouple561Couple 5 weeks ago
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East Sussex

We've been using Arla products for years and will continue to.

I'm tired of social media 'experts' now.

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By *bi HaiveMan 5 weeks ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"We've been using Arla products for years and will continue to.

I'm tired of social media 'experts' now. "

Living in the sticks my feed is full of conspiracy theories. All blaming Bill Gates and saying it'll cause male infertility. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂

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By *ernow1982Man 5 weeks ago

Plymouth

I don't use milk very often (and prefer Coffee Mate in my tea). But when I do buy it, I tend to buy the locally sourced stuff from the corner shop.

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By *ripfillMan 5 weeks ago

Paris, New York, Hong Kong and Havant

Interesting research … one of the key methods of methane reduction is by adding sea to their diet,

Kelp in particular… the iodine compounds reduce the stomach’s (7 ) in cow - limit the ability to produce methane

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By *ernow1982Man 5 weeks ago

Plymouth

Forgot the point of the post and rambled about milk instead. Thanks, ADHD. 😆

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By *irralGent99Man 5 weeks ago

Wirral.

TBH, I'm bored of the whole climate change process.

I believe we do need to change things and be smarter but when the elite, corporations ,other countries produce more co2 than the average but demand we change to suit the current trend its very silly.

I guarantee the whole climate change theory will blow over in the next few years. It always does

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By *icecouple561Couple 5 weeks ago
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"We've been using Arla products for years and will continue to.

I'm tired of social media 'experts' now.

Living in the sticks my feed is full of conspiracy theories. All blaming Bill Gates and saying it'll cause male infertility. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂"

Yeah I read that. He's a busy man that Bill.

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By *ripfillMan 5 weeks ago

Paris, New York, Hong Kong and Havant

Climate change is never boring neither should it be … ever !

It’s apart from nuclear weapons it’s the only common killer we all face which is increasing at an increasing rate …

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By *icecouple561Couple 5 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Climate change is never boring neither should it be … ever !

It’s apart from nuclear weapons it’s the only common killer we all face which is increasing at an increasing rate …

"

It's starting to directly affect middle class people now rather than some villages in far away countries. People with cars, carpets and white goods are being flooded out, losing all their possessions and dying. Notice will start to be taken because they will make noise and withdraw votes.

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By *ripfillMan 5 weeks ago

Paris, New York, Hong Kong and Havant


"Climate change is never boring neither should it be … ever !

It’s apart from nuclear weapons it’s the only common killer we all face which is increasing at an increasing rate …

It's starting to directly affect middle class people now rather than some villages in far away countries. People with cars, carpets and white goods are being flooded out, losing all their possessions and dying. Notice will start to be taken because they will make noise and withdraw votes. "

I agree … sadly the cost is great even the recent COP summit failed in too many ways …

It’s our children and their children which will be left with this ticking time bomb … which will go off

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By *rHotNottsMan 5 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Great idea.

Would rather they just stop the mass ensl@venent, torture and murder of other species - but this seems a decent alternative

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By *aitonelMan 5 weeks ago

Away for Christmas


"TBH, I'm bored of the whole climate change process.

I believe we do need to change things and be smarter but when the elite, corporations ,other countries produce more co2 than the average but demand we change to suit the current trend its very silly.

I guarantee the whole climate change theory will blow over in the next few years. It always does"

Except the whole "climate change theory" has been around for decades. It's not new, it's not some viral trend. It's gaining more weight and traction because with each year the scientific effects being recorded are noticeable.

It may take a back seat to whatever new news story we get presented with, or impactful tragedy to draw the attention away but it certainly won't blow over.

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By *aitonelMan 5 weeks ago

Away for Christmas


"We've been using Arla products for years and will continue to.

I'm tired of social media 'experts' now.

Living in the sticks my feed is full of conspiracy theories. All blaming Bill Gates and saying it'll cause male infertility. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂"

Let's not forget the same people would refuse to drink a perfectly safe beverage because it has dihydrogen oxide in the list of ingredients.

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By *rHotNottsMan 5 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Climate change is never boring neither should it be … ever !

It’s apart from nuclear weapons it’s the only common killer we all face which is increasing at an increasing rate …

It's starting to directly affect middle class people now rather than some villages in far away countries. People with cars, carpets and white goods are being flooded out, losing all their possessions and dying. Notice will start to be taken because they will make noise and withdraw votes.

I agree … sadly the cost is great even the recent COP summit failed in too many ways …

It’s our children and their children which will be left with this ticking time bomb … which will go off

"

Probably 2-4 more generations before people in the west feel it on a regular basis and start to believe what it is.

I visited a blue carbon project here at the weekend , I think they are well ahead of the west over here, these areas provide huge buffers from the sea and trap phenomenal amounts of carbon.

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By *icecouple561Couple 5 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"We've been using Arla products for years and will continue to.

I'm tired of social media 'experts' now.

Living in the sticks my feed is full of conspiracy theories. All blaming Bill Gates and saying it'll cause male infertility. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂

Let's not forget the same people would refuse to drink a perfectly safe beverage because it has dihydrogen oxide in the list of ingredients. "

I suspect their many times great grandparents gathered on the village green to complain that pasteurisation was the work of the devil.

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By *orthernJayMan 5 weeks ago

LHR


"I was reading a very interesting FB post on the operation of the bovine stomachs.This should not be interfered with, Methane makes up just 0.00017% of the atmosphere.Anyone who believes this is about climate,is an idiot."

What is it about then?

Some conspiracy to abduct us for aliens or to neutralise those Covid injections with nano-bots embedded in the cellar structure?

If Arla reduce the price of their milk by 20pence (and the supermarkets trialling) pass this reduction onto consumers; it’ll be the fastest selling milk, all day, every day in the UK until another supplier undercuts them.

Economics drive UK consumer behaviour, more than ever before; that’s a simple fact.

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By *porty_and_NaughtyCouple 5 weeks ago

Swansea


"I was reading a very interesting FB post on the operation of the bovine stomachs.This should not be interfered with, Methane makes up just 0.00017% of the atmosphere.Anyone who believes this is about climate,is an idiot."

Carbon monoxide will kill you within 30 minutes at a concentration of 0.003%.

Anyone who thinks that just because a number is small it is irrelevant is an idiot.

P

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By *porty_and_NaughtyCouple 5 weeks ago

Swansea

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By *porty_and_NaughtyCouple 5 weeks ago

Swansea


"I was reading a very interesting FB post on the operation of the bovine stomachs.This should not be interfered with, Methane makes up just 0.00017% of the atmosphere.Anyone who believes this is about climate,is an idiot.

Carbon monoxide will kill you within 30 minutes at a concentration of 0.003%.

P"

My mistake, 0.3% CO is lethal in 30 mins. Point still stands though.

The number maybe small but it is still higher than it has been in at least 800,000 years (seeing that you are impressed by numbers with lots of zeros)

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By *heCelticGentMan 5 weeks ago

Kempston


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The big news is that arla, which is britains biggest dairy cooperative have started a new project to trial the use of bovear additive to cows, the reason behind it is to reduce the climate emission from cows by 27% by reducing their farts and burps,

"

If they are serious about climate change, then they will shut up shop, or switch all of their products to being plant based. Modern agricultural methods and mass farming has a massive negative impact on the planet, not to mention the abuse of animals.

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By *ansoffateMan 5 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

The issues of climate change aren't solved by additives or recycling.

They are solved by sustainable consumption, which there's zero intention to tackle, because profit = good.

When they start tackling to core issue then it will have my support, otherwise this is just deflection.

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By *porty_and_NaughtyCouple 5 weeks ago

Swansea


"The issues of climate change aren't solved by additives or recycling.

They are solved by sustainable consumption, which there's zero intention to tackle, because profit = good.

When they start tackling to core issue then it will have my support, otherwise this is just deflection."

I'd go further. The biggest issue is population. There's 8 billion people on the planet. There are two options to control climate change with this amount of people with current technology.

1 Make sure the poorest 2/3 of the world don't consume anymore than they already do *and* convince the richest 1/3 to significantly cut back on their consumerism whilst simultaneously introducing all the technical measures we have to cut carbon emissions and increase carbon capture.

2, Shrink the global population.

I can't see either of these happening.

Malthusian predictions aren't new and the answer that is always given as to why they haven't come true so far is technology. We know that all other species are subject to the basic principles that Thomas Malthus noted, it is only our technology that has allowed us to escape the trap thus far. It's reasonable then to assume that either we will finally succumb to the problems created by our population size *or* we are going to have to find technological solutions to prevent it.

I'm not very optimistic at all for the future.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man 5 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"It's been tested for 10 years shag, with 150 trials used across the world, with 85 peer reviewed papers. If it works here, it's here to stay, climate change is here and we need to slow it down. If people won't buy less cow products, then cow testing will go on."
Hi christabellend, yes, you are right there. I also wonder if they used the same chemical as they use now that is called 3 - nitrooxypropanol back then too?

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

This planet will outlive the lot of us. Then once this gorgeous world rids itself of the human plague it will thrive again with everything that lives minus any human 😁

PS we’re only just recovering from the last ice age so what’s going on is absolutely normal imo. I’m still waiting for the ozone layer to collapse following the acid rain 😂😂😂😴

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By *hagTonight OP   Man 5 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

Another thing is, is that if they are selling organic milk, they cant call it organic, because they have added additives to it.

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By *icecouple561Couple 5 weeks ago
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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 5 weeks ago

BRIDPORT


"Another thing is, is that if they are selling organic milk, they cant call it organic, because they have added additives to it.

It's not added to the milk Shag it's added to the feed.

Apparently it doesn't go through to the milk. "

You are correct but depending on what it actually is, it may fall outside the Soil Association list of permitted feed supplements for Organic status.

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

You can't stop climate change, it's been happening for the entire 4 billion years the planet has been here and it will continue to happen.

It concerns me a lot that these people want to fuck about with nature, because it sure has an even severe way of biting you back.

The whole Climate Change thing is politician driven, not science driven, in the same way that COVID was, and in the same way that it's all about the transfer of money and power from the people to the powerful and super rich, whilst stifling debate so that it can't be challenged, forcing you to conform, thus they have total control over those they govern.

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By *appyPandaMan 2 weeks ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"You can't stop climate change, it's been happening for the entire 4 billion years the planet has been here and it will continue to happen.

It concerns me a lot that these people want to fuck about with nature, because it sure has an even severe way of biting you back.

The whole Climate Change thing is politician driven, not science driven, in the same way that COVID was, and in the same way that it's all about the transfer of money and power from the people to the powerful and super rich, whilst stifling debate so that it can't be challenged, forcing you to conform, thus they have total control over those they govern. "

I don't blame you for not trusting the self serving crooks in charge, but unfortunately anthropogenic climate change is happening above our silly little constantly squabbling hierarchal civilisations. Sure, it's happened before, but usually at a much slower pace when it's due to things like milankovitch cycles and albedo.

This is a very rapid change, and while it may seem slow to us, that's only because our concept of time is based around thinking 100 years is a long time, when it's absolutely nothing in geologic terms or the scales of time these systems usually shift. All of human history happened in 0.0000022% of the earth's lifespan, yet we seem to go about our lives thinking it operates at our rate if change.

That said, this is not a post in support of the fuckers in charge, where COP meetings just become filled with lobbyists and it's more like a green washing event than actually focus on any good.

Intelligent life is incredible and awe inspiring, but it's very possible that it's too vulnerable to advancing far too fast for its own good. It very well maybe a short term self destructive phenomena whenever it arises in this vast wonderful universe

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By *ondiego85Man 2 weeks ago

nottingham

The product has been tested extensively and it’s safe for human consumption. Why boycotting if it’s something good for the planet? Just because people are ignorant and scared of anything new?

If they put it on the market I’ll happily buy it.

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By *idnightMischiefMan 2 weeks ago

London

People trying to find the right way to do the wrong thing.

Considering the health implications, animal abuse and that it's just not natural to drink milk from another species - I think the consumption of dairy just demonstrates how stupid and destructive we are as a species.

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