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"Hadn't heard of it until reading your post. However for years now I have wondered why the hell more women don't become lesbians or just stay celibate, given how disgusting a huge number of men seem to be." Yea that sounds reasonable   | |||
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"I had to Google it as I'd never heard about it: "4B (or "Four Nos") is a radical feminist movement which is purported to have originated in South Korea in 2019. Its proponents refuse to date men, get married, have sex with men, or have children." Brilliant. And coincidentally most of the women participating look like they don't have the option of doing neither of the 4 things they're refusing to do so I'm all for it! Fucking hell...I'm a radical feminist and I never knew it!" | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? " Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join!" what did I say wrong  | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! what did I say wrong "Are you asking me or the original poster? | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! what did I say wrong "I think you caught a stray or more likely it was aimed at me | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! what did I say wrong
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! what did I say wrong
Are you asking me or the original poster? you "I was replying to the original thread, I didn't quote your response so I wasn't referring to you. | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! what did I say wrong
Are you asking me or the original poster? you
I was replying to the original thread, I didn't quote your response so I wasn't referring to you. "Thought so  | |||
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"If shaving their heads is keeping you away from them then it's working isn't it? Yep. So I'm encouraging more to join! what did I say wrong
Are you asking me or the original poster? you
I was replying to the original thread, I didn't quote your response so I wasn't referring to you. "ok it was like I was getting ate | |||
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"ok it was like I was getting ate " You'll get dipped in chocolate and thrown to the 4B crowd if you're not careful...  | |||
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"ok it was like I was getting ate You'll get dipped in chocolate and thrown to the 4B crowd if you're not careful... "I'm not going to joke about the,4B movement the ladies are 100% correct in what they are doing | |||
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"ok it was like I was getting ate You'll get dipped in chocolate and thrown to the 4B crowd if you're not careful... "Celibacy and chocolate is a dangerous combination...especially for those participating | |||
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"OP sees this as amusing. Quick Google. A head shaving video has gone viral related to 4B. Head shaving is not a requirement. However, many US women are refusing to abide by contemporary beauty standards as an act of protest. The rush in interest appears to be in the US. Frankly, considering: - They've just elected Trump who had VERY close links to Jeffery Epstein, and is a convicted felon as President - There are multiple cases of women dying or suffering permanent harm because they can't access gynecological care - The number of states with near total abortion bans with no exceptions - The GOP's stated plan for a federal ban and going after access to contraception next - The fact that if existing federal laws on banning men with domestic violence complaints from having firearms, the number of US firearm related deaths would drop by over two thirds - And the appalling conviction rate for sexual assault complaints in the US I absolutely do not blame American Women exploring things like 4B for their own safety & as a form of no violent protest." Not so much amusing but more ridiculous | |||
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"OP sees this as amusing. Quick Google. A head shaving video has gone viral related to 4B. Head shaving is not a requirement. However, many US women are refusing to abide by contemporary beauty standards as an act of protest. The rush in interest appears to be in the US. Frankly, considering: - They've just elected Trump who had VERY close links to Jeffery Epstein, and is a convicted felon as President - There are multiple cases of women dying or suffering permanent harm because they can't access gynecological care - The number of states with near total abortion bans with no exceptions - The GOP's stated plan for a federal ban and going after access to contraception next - The fact that if existing federal laws on banning men with domestic violence complaints from having firearms, the number of US firearm related deaths would drop by over two thirds - And the appalling conviction rate for sexual assault complaints in the US I absolutely do not blame American Women exploring things like 4B for their own safety & as a form of no violent protest. Not so much amusing but more ridiculous " Why do you think it's ridiculous? Please enlighten us. | |||
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"OP sees this as amusing. Quick Google. A head shaving video has gone viral related to 4B. Head shaving is not a requirement. However, many US women are refusing to abide by contemporary beauty standards as an act of protest. The rush in interest appears to be in the US. Frankly, considering: - They've just elected Trump who had VERY close links to Jeffery Epstein, and is a convicted felon as President - There are multiple cases of women dying or suffering permanent harm because they can't access gynecological care - The number of states with near total abortion bans with no exceptions - The GOP's stated plan for a federal ban and going after access to contraception next - The fact that if existing federal laws on banning men with domestic violence complaints from having firearms, the number of US firearm related deaths would drop by over two thirds - And the appalling conviction rate for sexual assault complaints in the US I absolutely do not blame American Women exploring things like 4B for their own safety & as a form of no violent protest. Not so much amusing but more ridiculous Why do you think it's ridiculous? Please enlighten us. " For all the reasons stated above and more. How's the movement gonna prevent or change anything?? What does this protest achieve? | |||
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"Sounds like a pathetic load of bollocks to me. Grown adults crying like children. “ I’m never going to date, marry or have sex with another man again 😭😭😭 “ Ok love, you do that, but you can just say that you’re a lesbian without being so aggressive. 🤦🏻♂️ no need to start a cult over it. 😳 The mr " Doing a lot of us a favour by taking themselves off the market | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest?" Surprised? Yes to be honest | |||
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"Sounds like a pathetic load of bollocks to me. Grown adults crying like children. “ I’m never going to date, marry or have sex with another man again 😭😭😭 “ Ok love, you do that, but you can just say that you’re a lesbian without being so aggressive. 🤦🏻♂️ no need to start a cult over it. 😳 The mr Doing a lot of us a favour by taking themselves off the market " Koreans eat dogs, why would you fuck one anyway 🤷🏻♂️ The mr | |||
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"Not so much amusing but more ridiculous " Finding forms of non-violent protest isn't ridiculous. - Victims of sexual assault being forced to carry any resultant pregnancy to term is. This has included a case of a 10-year-old in Ohio, awho was forced to travel out of state for an abortion. - The fact that there are moves to prevent women leaving states with bans to get care is. - That women who have had miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies are having to suffer in agony, bleeding out or risking death by sepsis because they're carrying a dead baby but can't get the meds or operations they need is. - That GOP objected to Biden using Federal Law to protect women, guaranteeing care if their life is in danger is. As is the fact that Trump will repeal that protection. - Authorities are getting access to people's personal info on period tracking apps to help with potential prosecutions is. - That there are plans within Project 2025 to remove No Fault Divorces, which will see women trapped in violent and abusive relationships is. Plus that the situation is going to get worse over the next 4 years is genuinely terrifying. Under these circumstances women wanting nothing to do with men, wearing pink hats, shaving their heads, and burning their bras etc in protect seems entirely rational and reasonable. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest " When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? " Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied  | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied "That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️ Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws. So they ARE closing their legs. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. " A few liberals in New York, probably British expats , the rest of American women love trump & want his babies | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs. "Which kind of protection rights will be removed? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed? "The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation. It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas. So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong? "So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it ""This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it
"This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill. "Do you know the reason why? If so why do you think it's a bad thing? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it
"This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill.
Do you know the reason why? If so why do you think it's a bad thing?"If you do, feel free to explain it I'd love to hear your take on it. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it
"This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill.
Do you know the reason why? If so why do you think it's a bad thing?
If you do, feel free to explain it I'd love to hear your take on it. "I don't have a problem with it. It seems to be a problem for you even though I don't see how it would effect you so I'm curious to hear why it's a bad thing | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied "What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough. This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban. One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men. I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women. This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you! | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!"Worse than the taliban Is Crazy | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!"As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee.... | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it
"This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill.
Do you know the reason why? If so why do you think it's a bad thing?
If you do, feel free to explain it I'd love to hear your take on it.
I don't have a problem with it. It seems to be a problem for you even though I don't see how it would effect you so I'm curious to hear why it's a bad thing "You're curious why it's a bad thing to remove women's access to any form of contraception? No contraceptive pill. No coil. No condoms. No vasectomies. Women in marriages being forced to accept sex whenever their husbands want it. Women not being allowed to ask for divorce. It's only two generations ago that it was normal for women to have anything up to 10 pregnancies, and their bodies be completely destroyed by the multiple childbirths by the time they were 40. I went to school with one kid who was I think number 15 of 20 children, his mother basically spent ages 17 through 40 permanently pregnant. She did not live to get old, but she looked older than my grandmother. You're curious why this would be a bad thing? And you're here on a swingers site? Is your name Andrew Tate? I hope to god that no woman is insane enough to go anywhere near you! | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it
"This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill.
Do you know the reason why? If so why do you think it's a bad thing?
If you do, feel free to explain it I'd love to hear your take on it.
I don't have a problem with it. It seems to be a problem for you even though I don't see how it would effect you so I'm curious to hear why it's a bad thing
You're curious why it's a bad thing to remove women's access to any form of contraception? No contraceptive pill. No coil. No condoms. No vasectomies. Women in marriages being forced to accept sex whenever their husbands want it. Women not being allowed to ask for divorce.
It's only two generations ago that it was normal for women to have anything up to 10 pregnancies, and their bodies be completely destroyed by the multiple childbirths by the time they were 40. I went to school with one kid who was I think number 15 of 20 children, his mother basically spent ages 17 through 40 permanently pregnant. She did not live to get old, but she looked older than my grandmother.
You're curious why this would be a bad thing? And you're here on a swingers site? Is your name Andrew Tate? I hope to god that no woman is insane enough to go anywhere near you!"Not allowed condoms? Women not allowed to ask for divorce? Where you getting your info from??? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong?
So they're banning the morning after pill..
Nothing wrong with closing their legs.
It's called being celibate and people been doing that forever and some people actually encourage it. What they don't do is go on about it
"This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation" not just the morning after pill.
Do you know the reason why? If so why do you think it's a bad thing?
If you do, feel free to explain it I'd love to hear your take on it.
I don't have a problem with it. It seems to be a problem for you even though I don't see how it would effect you so I'm curious to hear why it's a bad thing
You're curious why it's a bad thing to remove women's access to any form of contraception? No contraceptive pill. No coil. No condoms. No vasectomies. Women in marriages being forced to accept sex whenever their husbands want it. Women not being allowed to ask for divorce.
It's only two generations ago that it was normal for women to have anything up to 10 pregnancies, and their bodies be completely destroyed by the multiple childbirths by the time they were 40. I went to school with one kid who was I think number 15 of 20 children, his mother basically spent ages 17 through 40 permanently pregnant. She did not live to get old, but she looked older than my grandmother.
You're curious why this would be a bad thing? And you're here on a swingers site? Is your name Andrew Tate? I hope to god that no woman is insane enough to go anywhere near you!
Not allowed condoms?
Women not allowed to ask for divorce? Where you getting your info from???"The 900 pages of Project 2025 that have been mentioned several times so far in this thread. Have you read all of it? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee...."They are legally allowed to protest too. That’s the point Right now I don’t know what else to tell you. I can explain it for you but I really can’t understand it for you | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
They are legally allowed to protest too. That’s the point
Right now I don’t know what else to tell you. I can explain it for you but I really can’t understand it for you"I don't know how to make it more clearer that I don't have a problem with the protest. I said it's the best thing to happen in 2024. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee...."Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could. Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here. With all respect, Polly x | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x"How does the 4B movement affect you??? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
How does the 4B movement affect you???"The attitudes of men that are causing the 4B movement affect everyone. They make all of society a worse place to live. Showing that you do not understand this, shows that you are part of the problem. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x"Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
How does the 4B movement affect you???
The attitudes of men that are causing the 4B movement affect everyone. They make all of society a worse place to live. Showing that you do not understand this, shows that you are part of the problem.". 1st I don't live in America 2nd I didn't vote for Trump 3rd I'm for the movement regardless of how pointless I think it is So how am I part of the problem? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark"If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me"How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws? Especially in a country they don't even live in??? And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking "Because this isn’t just about abortion laws. Come on now, we’ve gone over this, you’re being obtuse for the sake of it. | |||
Reply privately (thread closed by moderator) | |||
"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking "You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it. | |||
Reply privately (thread closed by moderator) | |||
"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
Because this isn’t just about abortion laws. Come on now, we’ve gone over this, you’re being obtuse for the sake of it.
"I'm not being obtuse at all I just don't understand the reasons for being upset when people voted for this It wasn't enforced. Anyone that doesn't agree has the right to leave or protest. I'm just saying is that form of protest gonna achieve change? I highly doubt it | |||
Reply privately (thread closed by moderator) | |||
"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it. "No I read that Polly identifies as a woman | |||
Reply privately (thread closed by moderator) | |||
"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it.
No I read that Polly identifies as a woman"So you're intentionally misgendering her then. | |||
Reply privately (thread closed by moderator) | |||
"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it.
No I read that Polly identifies as a woman
So you're intentionally misgendering her then. "How??? | |||
Reply privately (thread closed by moderator) | |||
"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it.
No I read that Polly identifies as a woman
So you're intentionally misgendering her then.
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"Hadn't heard of it until reading your post. However for years now I have wondered why the hell more women don't become lesbians or just stay celibate, given how disgusting a huge number of men seem to be." Your comment makes a valid point. | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it.
No I read that Polly identifies as a woman
So you're intentionally misgendering her then.
How???
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"Hadn't heard of it until reading your post. However for years now I have wondered why the hell more women don't become lesbians or just stay celibate, given how disgusting a huge number of men seem to be. Your comment makes a valid point. " I'm glad that this post is spreading awareness of this cause cos I definitely think more women should be joining | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
What the fuck do you fail to understand about this situation? The fact is that in many countries women are treated as mere objects, and that Trump's america is going to become one of the worst of these. Trump and his enablers have a stated aim to make abortion illegal everywhere in the US, even when the woman is still a child and a victim of inçestuous r@pe. To deny women treatment even if a foetus dies inside them. To access the period calendars of women for checking if they miss a cycle - in some states women have already been arrested and charged with terminating a pregnancy based on no more evidence than having an irregular period. To deny women the ability to divorce a bad husband, though of course a man will be able to discard his wife easily enough.
This is not a return to Victorian values, it's a return to Old Testament treatment of women. It's not Christian values, it's worse than the Taliban.
One response to this is a movement amongst some women to say "Enough! Men treat us as objects, so let us stay as far away from them as we possibly can." It's not about women just fancying a bit of lez action, it's about women having suffered so much abuse at the hands of men that they are utterly repulsed by men.
I'm appalled at the men in this very forum, on a website that is supposed to be about open minded attitudes and respect between men and women, that are finding the issue humorous, and are even making sick "jokes" about the women going to the 4B movement. I am disgusted by you, and I hope that when your wives or partners read what you have written, they gain some insight into how little you must value them as women.
This topic bears on the mistreatment of women in all countries. The men making jokes of these women - shame on you!
As far as I'm concerned Trump was ELECTED as president. Which means the Majority of the people in America agree with his policies that he's been very clear on. If the minority of the people that are unhappy they are legally allowed to move. Unlike the people ruled by the Taliban. Or like the men that are forced to pay child support even if they didn't want the child to begin with. Or the men in Ukraine forced to fight in the war while the women got to flee....
Jesus Christ Almighty! I am gobsmacked to read these values from anyone on this site. You clearly hate women and should not be here. YOU exemplify the case for the spread of 4B movement more clearly than anybody else ever could.
Mods, I apologise in advance for the depths of emotion that this thread is bringing out in me. If I receive a few days ban for my words here, then it may be for the best, to allow me to calm down. However could I please ask for you to close and delete this thread which will clearly be distressing to many, especially any women who have ever been on the receiving end of any sexual violence. Could I also ask for you to take note of the more misogynistic voices in this thread and monitor those contributors more closely. They show attitudes which in my humble opinion have no place on the fabswingers site, and are liable to drive away true swingers from here.
With all respect, Polly x
Why are you speaking on behalf of women and trying to hijack their movement that doesn't include you at all? On top of that calling me a woman hater? I'm a man that likes girls unlike you so it's ironic of you to make that remark
If you read her profile you would see that Polly is gender fluid and identifies as female. She is welcome to stand with me
How's a person that identifies as a woman affected by abortion laws?
Especially in a country they don't even live in???
And according to him he wasn't even aware of the movement till he saw my post so why not do more research instead of speaking for the sake of speaking
You've just been told that Polly is a woman, intentionally misgendering her is not helping your cause is it.
No I read that Polly identifies as a woman
So you're intentionally misgendering her then.
How???
Do I need to quote your own words back to you?
What does Polly's profile come under? "So you're assuming all trans people on here use he/him based on your logic are you? | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied "....wow.... I actually have no words... close their legs ? Bit difficult if you have a 200lb man r*ping a 100lb woman... | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
....wow.... I actually have no words... close their legs ? Bit difficult if you have a 200lb man r*ping a 100lb woman... "Let's be real. More than 90% of abortions have nothing to do with r*pe | |||
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"4B movement is gaining interest especially in the USA a result of Trump winning and his project 2025. I’ve personally seen US men commenting on women’s profiles “your body, MY choice”. Are you really surprised that women are choosing this movement as a quiet protest? Surprised? Yes to be honest When their reproductive rights are eroded, what’s the easiest and most effective way to remain in control of their own bodies? Close their legs? Use protection? Move to a different country? There's people really struggling over serious issues all around the world. They're protesting for their right to be creampied
That’s the point 🤦🏻♀️
Project 2025 will remove those rights to use protection. This isn’t just about abortion laws.
So they ARE closing their legs.
Which kind of protection rights will be removed?
The policy restricts who can access contraception, whether that be the outright ban on emergency contraception or whether any form of contraception will be available to low income groups, it will no longer be covered by insurance or employer insurance. This includes but isn’t limited to the pill and tubal ligation.
It also seeks to ban all forms of porn, and access to reproductive health clinics. That means no more little blue pills either fellas.
So again, tell me why closing their legs is wrong? "No little blue pill will cause more uproar amongst the men, there is a huge amount of ED sufferers and not being able to get an erection is gonna amount to a whole lot of sexual fustration, which in part will be taken out on women 
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"I am unfamiliar with the movement My overwhelming thought on this thread, however, is that it is filled with some incredibly worrying misogynistic rhetoric - and not only from the OP" Exactly this. Just ugh. | |||
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