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So it’s now been confirmed that Thomas Tuchel has been named as the new England Manager but there seems to be a lot of widespread debate about whether it’s the right appointment and more so whether a foreign manager should ever have been on the wish list, let alone appointed.
Where do you stand on it and do you think it’s the right appointment? |
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I don’t mind this. He’s clearly a top quality coach. I couldn’t care less about his nationality. National teams around the world have foreign managers. I find it all a bit silly when fans scream and stomp “but he MUST be English!”.
Like any other manager…..let’s judge the guy on his results. After all, that’s what the business is about. |
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By *zeroMan 6 weeks ago
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Plenty of other countries around the world have a foreign manager so I don't really see what the fuss is about hiring him.
Although is the fuss more that he's a German when they are traditionally the England football teams rivals? |
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"It just seems they have jumped the gun to soon and I feel they will end up regretting it. Should have waited for Pep"
You’re assuming that he’s even interested in the job.
Plus Pep creates great sides from the players he’s wants.
Doing the England job is working with whatever is available to him, and no guarantee he’s successful. |
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"It just seems they have jumped the gun to soon and I feel they will end up regretting it. Should have waited for Pep
You’re assuming that he’s even interested in the job.
Plus Pep creates great sides from the players he’s wants.
Doing the England job is working with whatever is available to him, and no guarantee he’s successful. "
He hasn’t said he wasn’t interested either so who knows only time will tell |
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By *abioMan 6 weeks ago
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I assumed they would have asked Pep or Jurgen first before asking tuchel…. So I don’t have a problem with it…
Is he better than the English candidates? Are you taking Eddie Howe for example over tuchel .. I wouldn’t |
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I think it’s an interesting appointment. Given the performances over the two most recent friendlies, and Carsley’s most recent interview, there was a need to expedite the process and Tuchel is probably the best available at such short notice.
I think it’s fascinating that the same people who are adamant that the England manager has to be English are the same people who absolutely hate the idea of EDI, Diversity objectives, Positive Action or ‘box ticking’ and fully believe that it should always be the best person for the job (unless the job is England manager of course) |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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I find it quite an interesting appointment and definitely came out of left field. I don't buy into the "The England manager should be English" narrative and think Tuchel is a very good cup manager and could do well. My only drawback really is I'm not a huge fan of his playing style and don't differentiate it much from Southgate's way of playing. |
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"I find it quite an interesting appointment and definitely came out of left field. I don't buy into the "The England manager should be English" narrative and think Tuchel is a very good cup manager and could do well. My only drawback really is I'm not a huge fan of his playing style and don't differentiate it much from Southgate's way of playing."
For me, playing style was one concern with Gareth but the main issue I had was the level of pragmatism and inability to manage games in the moment. I think Tuchel brings a ruthlessness, as well as technical nous, that Gareth and his team lacked. |
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"I find it quite an interesting appointment and definitely came out of left field. I don't buy into the "The England manager should be English" narrative and think Tuchel is a very good cup manager and could do well. My only drawback really is I'm not a huge fan of his playing style and don't differentiate it much from Southgate's way of playing.
For me, playing style was one concern with Gareth but the main issue I had was the level of pragmatism and inability to manage games in the moment. I think Tuchel brings a ruthlessness, as well as technical nous, that Gareth and his team lacked."
That is a good point! I do reckon Tuchel is a better tactician and is able to see games out a bit better such as being 1-0 up in a semi-final or final. |
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"I find it quite an interesting appointment and definitely came out of left field. I don't buy into the "The England manager should be English" narrative and think Tuchel is a very good cup manager and could do well. My only drawback really is I'm not a huge fan of his playing style and don't differentiate it much from Southgate's way of playing."
I think Chelsea under Tuchel are a great example of a team playing good football, being stable at the back and being adaptable. The trouble with Southgate was always that not only were we boring, he didn’t have a clue how to manage a game. |
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Southgate gets a lot of hate but gave England more consistency in cups than any other manager we have had.
Trophies no. Consistency yes
They talk of us having a great squad. That’s all I have ever heard for many years
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"Southgate gets a lot of hate but gave England more consistency in cups than any other manager we have had.
Trophies no. Consistency yes
They talk of us having a great squad. That’s all I have ever heard for many years
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Hire boro, get boro. |
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"So it’s now been confirmed that Thomas Tuchel has been named as the new England Manager but there seems to be a lot of widespread debate about whether it’s the right appointment and more so whether a foreign manager should ever have been on the wish list, let alone appointed.
Where do you stand on it and do you think it’s the right appointment?"
I don't stand on it at all  |
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By *os19Man 6 weeks ago
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The way I see it there is no top English manager about so the FA have gone for a top foreign manager who was unemployed so no compensation package to pay.Whilst some people will say the English manager should be English I wonder what the German are thinking about a German managing England. |
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"I find it quite an interesting appointment and definitely came out of left field. I don't buy into the "The England manager should be English" narrative and think Tuchel is a very good cup manager and could do well. My only drawback really is I'm not a huge fan of his playing style and don't differentiate it much from Southgate's way of playing.
I think Chelsea under Tuchel are a great example of a team playing good football, being stable at the back and being adaptable. The trouble with Southgate was always that not only were we boring, he didn’t have a clue how to manage a game. "
I think that's it. I think play style can be a bit overstated in tournament football but I think Southgate's only came under a microscope due to the failures in those finals. Tuchel might be able to take us one step further. |
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The speed with which this developed from 'rumour' to 'appointment' makes me think this was sorted out directly after the Euros but kept under wraps to create the facade that the Football Association were actually looking for someone.
The roles of a Club Manager and that an International Coach are vastly different, and I wouldn't take it as read that T.T. has plenty of club success on his CV means that it will follow at International level. |
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"I’m definitely no England fan, but the Daily Mail’s vile rantings today actually make me want him and the team to do well!"
As a result of your post I read the Mail's article and if it's the one headlined "MAIL SPORT COMMENT: It's a dark day for England as the manager's job goes to a GERMAN... and Thomas Tuchel only has 18 months to prove he's up to it" can you point out the "vile rantings" for me please? |
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"So it’s now been confirmed that Thomas Tuchel has been named as the new England Manager but there seems to be a lot of widespread debate about whether it’s the right appointment and more so whether a foreign manager should ever have been on the wish list, let alone appointed.
Where do you stand on it and do you think it’s the right appointment?"
For some reason I can't properly explain I think it should be an English manager.
Also think we need to get over ourselves. Somehow thinking we deserve to win a cup just because we have a few decent players. We have good players but evidence suggests they aren't that good. And other teams acty have players as good or better and who run about more. |
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"He seems well qualified for the job, but why anybody would take England Manager's job is beyond me - it's a poison chalice."
Quite bizarre that one of the first hot topics is/was ‘will you sing the national anthem’! He’s not English so I’d imagine not. |
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"He seems well qualified for the job, but why anybody would take England Manager's job is beyond me - it's a poison chalice.
Quite bizarre that one of the first hot topics is/was ‘will you sing the national anthem’! He’s not English so I’d imagine not."
what a pathetic question! Why should he sing it? There's players that don't even sing it and they're English! That reporter should be torn to shreds! |
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