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"I'm a carnivore too but love my veg "
Then you're not a carnivore, you're an omnivore. People use 'Carnivore' because they think it makes them sound tough, but it just makes me think that they must be terribly constipated. |
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"I'm a carnivore too but love my veg
Then you're not a carnivore, you're an omnivore. People use 'Carnivore' because they think it makes them sound tough, but it just makes me think that they must be terribly constipated. "
 that's always my first thought |
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I think the first indication that we live in an extremely wealthy society with no shortage of food is that many people can actually choose what they eat in minute detail. This along with pet food being marketed as if it's for humans.
Of course there will usually be people who can't do that because they can't afford to. I know that. |
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I've experimented with a lot of different approaches re diet.
Tried carnivore for 3 months, gym performance plummeted, didn't feel great at all. Health markers all over the shop especially LDL/HDL etc.
Carbs are not the enemy, they don't make you fat, calories do. Carb intake is around 360g a day now.while staying reasonably lean and all health markers in check. |
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On the surface it seems like a fad diet genuinely don't believe with all the information presented that living a carnivore diet is any better than eating in moderation. |
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I am following davinya taylor will powders thing. Fat fasting. Keto but small carbs in eve to help with sleeping. Threw out veg and seed oils out last year. I do feel better and lost weight. Before anyone judges go look in to it. |
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I tend to eat what i want to eat and when i want to eat it. Probably a bit over weight but happy enough about it. I have a meat and two veg diet and i do eat alot of fruit. The 5 a day rule is more a 7 a day rule now but i generally get 5 a day, everyday.
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Carnivore diet is ancestrally appropriate. Fossil records indicate that height and brain size reduced, dental issues and new diseases associated with inflammation increased markedly everywhere on the planet where people switched to agriculture.
The agrarian revolution is probably one of the worst innovations that mankind has inflicted upon itself.
The link between today’s health issues and diet is obvious. Nowhere in nature do you see overweight and unhealthy animals who eat a species specific diet. The fact that we evolved to eat foods that allowed us to survive does not mean those foods are any good for us.
In the words of Dr Anthony Chaffee, “Plants are trying to kill you.” |
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^^ you see a lot of unhealthy animals in nature. They do tend to die quite quickly.
Did the hunter gatherer diet consist solely of meat? I was always lead to believe that the bulk was nuts, seeds and berries which was supplemented with meat when a hunt was successful. People who lived that lifestyle followed game and seasonal produce |
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The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat. |
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"Carnivore diet is ancestrally appropriate. Fossil records indicate that height and brain size reduced, dental issues and new diseases associated with inflammation increased markedly everywhere on the planet where people switched to agriculture.
The agrarian revolution is probably one of the worst innovations that mankind has inflicted upon itself.
The link between today’s health issues and diet is obvious. Nowhere in nature do you see overweight and unhealthy animals who eat a species specific diet. The fact that we evolved to eat foods that allowed us to survive does not mean those foods are any good for us.
In the words of Dr Anthony Chaffee, “Plants are trying to kill you.”"
The rise in processed foods is the main cause of the health epidemic.
If you imagine how long our grandparents lived for its startling. Primarily because the meat came from down the road, the veg from fields around their houses. None of these pesticides and antibiotics caused by the race to the bottom. |
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Why do you think there used to be signs up in zoos saying ‘Don’t feed the animals’? The processed rubbish we would throw them would make them ill. Why do we now have diabetic pets? The processed rubbish we give them that isn’t species specific.
All made from plants.
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"The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat. "
Prior to humans being able to hunt they lived on a plant based diet though. I believe bugs, worms, and marrow found in bones was the only supplement to this? Man made tools/weapons didn't come along until fairly recently in our history. We'd not have made it very far if we couldn't survive on vegetation. |
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"Carnivore diet is ancestrally appropriate. Fossil records indicate that height and brain size reduced, dental issues and new diseases associated with inflammation increased markedly everywhere on the planet where people switched to agriculture.
The agrarian revolution is probably one of the worst innovations that mankind has inflicted upon itself.
The link between today’s health issues and diet is obvious. Nowhere in nature do you see overweight and unhealthy animals who eat a species specific diet. The fact that we evolved to eat foods that allowed us to survive does not mean those foods are any good for us.
In the words of Dr Anthony Chaffee, “Plants are trying to kill you.”
The rise in processed foods is the main cause of the health epidemic.
If you imagine how long our grandparents lived for its startling. Primarily because the meat came from down the road, the veg from fields around their houses. None of these pesticides and antibiotics caused by the race to the bottom."
Agree.
But the veg wasn’t essential and served no purpose other than to bulk out the meal as meat was expensive. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. |
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The issue isn’t planet. It’s how they’ve been processed and how it’s changed the food chain.
Products like Soy which were fine in small amounts but are now prevalent in everything. Preservatives are the worst.
Next time you buy a loaf of bread just look at this many ingredients are in it. I try to be conscious and eat as many single ingredient foods as possible |
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"The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat.
Prior to humans being able to hunt they lived on a plant based diet though. I believe bugs, worms, and marrow found in bones was the only supplement to this? Man made tools/weapons didn't come along until fairly recently in our history. We'd not have made it very far if we couldn't survive on vegetation. "
We were scavengers. Our stomach acid ph is 1.5, higher than a lions.
The fact that we began to eat meat is what many anthropologists believe is the reason for brain development and eventual emergence of Homo sapiens |
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"The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat.
Prior to humans being able to hunt they lived on a plant based diet though. I believe bugs, worms, and marrow found in bones was the only supplement to this? Man made tools/weapons didn't come along until fairly recently in our history. We'd not have made it very far if we couldn't survive on vegetation.
We were scavengers. Our stomach acid ph is 1.5, higher than a lions.
The fact that we began to eat meat is what many anthropologists believe is the reason for brain development and eventual emergence of Homo sapiens"
But we haven't evolved to have pointy teeth 🤔 Isn't that why we're classed as omnivores? |
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"The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat.
Prior to humans being able to hunt they lived on a plant based diet though. I believe bugs, worms, and marrow found in bones was the only supplement to this? Man made tools/weapons didn't come along until fairly recently in our history. We'd not have made it very far if we couldn't survive on vegetation.
We were scavengers. Our stomach acid ph is 1.5, higher than a lions.
The fact that we began to eat meat is what many anthropologists believe is the reason for brain development and eventual emergence of Homo sapiens
But we haven't evolved to have pointy teeth 🤔 Isn't that why we're classed as omnivores? "
Some of us do have pointed / fang teeth |
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"The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat.
Prior to humans being able to hunt they lived on a plant based diet though. I believe bugs, worms, and marrow found in bones was the only supplement to this? Man made tools/weapons didn't come along until fairly recently in our history. We'd not have made it very far if we couldn't survive on vegetation.
We were scavengers. Our stomach acid ph is 1.5, higher than a lions.
The fact that we began to eat meat is what many anthropologists believe is the reason for brain development and eventual emergence of Homo sapiens
But we haven't evolved to have pointy teeth 🤔 Isn't that why we're classed as omnivores?
Some of us do have pointed / fang teeth "
Well we have canine teeth but also molars. Animals that are strictly carnivores have I think a few molars at the back but not many. I mean if we were only meant to live off meat we'd surely all be strutting about with tiger teeth going on 😁
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I love meat (haha) but I could never do this because I LOVE vegetables and fruit (especially tomato, the best fruit in existence ). I’ve lost a bit of weight over the last few years and just basically came down to eating everything in moderation, as much fruit and veg as possible, not drinking as much and exercising. There are so many tempting foods with empty calories it’s crazily easy for me to put on weight |
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"The other way around. When herd animals headed into the frozen north, they were followed, no nuts or berries up there. The Inuit peoples had none of the diseases of the ‘west’ until we introduced processed foods, all of which are made from plants, and thrived on nothing but meat and fat.
Prior to humans being able to hunt they lived on a plant based diet though. I believe bugs, worms, and marrow found in bones was the only supplement to this? Man made tools/weapons didn't come along until fairly recently in our history. We'd not have made it very far if we couldn't survive on vegetation.
We were scavengers. Our stomach acid ph is 1.5, higher than a lions.
The fact that we began to eat meat is what many anthropologists believe is the reason for brain development and eventual emergence of Homo sapiens
But we haven't evolved to have pointy teeth 🤔 Isn't that why we're classed as omnivores?
Some of us do have pointed / fang teeth
Well we have canine teeth but also molars. Animals that are strictly carnivores have I think a few molars at the back but not many. I mean if we were only meant to live off meat we'd surely all be strutting about with tiger teeth going on 😁
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We don’t need teeth to hunt kill prey though as we are the master species of this world. We can use utensils forks knives and we have this cool ability to prepare animal meat into easily consumed food .  |
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"Carnivore diet is ancestrally appropriate. Fossil records indicate that height and brain size reduced, dental issues and new diseases associated with inflammation increased markedly everywhere on the planet where people switched to agriculture.
The agrarian revolution is probably one of the worst innovations that mankind has inflicted upon itself.
The link between today’s health issues and diet is obvious. Nowhere in nature do you see overweight and unhealthy animals who eat a species specific diet. The fact that we evolved to eat foods that allowed us to survive does not mean those foods are any good for us.
In the words of Dr Anthony Chaffee, “Plants are trying to kill you.”
The rise in processed foods is the main cause of the health epidemic.
If you imagine how long our grandparents lived for its startling. Primarily because the meat came from down the road, the veg from fields around their houses. None of these pesticides and antibiotics caused by the race to the bottom."
How long did our grandparents live for? What was life expectancy for someone in Victorian UK who lived in a big city? |
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"In 1900 life expectancy in England and Wales was 44 for men. "
That was an average due to high infant mortality, disease, lack of sanitation, poor medical conditions and a lack of health and safety in the workplace. The wealthy lived to a ripe old age |
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies."
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️ |
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"In 1900 life expectancy in England and Wales was 44 for men.
That was an average due to high infant mortality, disease, lack of sanitation, poor medical conditions and a lack of health and safety in the workplace. The wealthy lived to a ripe old age "
I know it's an average. The wealthy have access to better conditions all round. It's not solely down to diet. |
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies.
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️ "
You're making a lot of claims with no reference to supporting evidence.
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies.
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️
You're making a lot of claims with no reference to supporting evidence.
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It’s common knowledge that vegetarians and vegans need to supplement because they simply can’t get all the nutrients they need to stay healthy from plants alone.
As for the studies that have debunked the claim linking high cholesterol levels to heart disease and other conditions, they are all out there, feel free to do your own research. The vilification of red meat has been conclusively proven to be a false narrative pushed by food companies.
For a bit of easy on the eye education on this you may want to check out the previously mentioned Dr Chaffee on YouTube - I promise you’ll like what you see, ladies  |
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies.
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️ "
There’s plenty of doctors and nutritionists that would disagree but you do you. |
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies.
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️
You're making a lot of claims with no reference to supporting evidence.
It’s common knowledge that vegetarians and vegans need to supplement because they simply can’t get all the nutrients they need to stay healthy from plants alone.
As for the studies that have debunked the claim linking high cholesterol levels to heart disease and other conditions, they are all out there, feel free to do your own research. The vilification of red meat has been conclusively proven to be a false narrative pushed by food companies.
For a bit of easy on the eye education on this you may want to check out the previously mentioned Dr Chaffee on YouTube - I promise you’ll like what you see, ladies "
The Australian or American Dr Chaffee. There seem to be two  |
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies.
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️
You're making a lot of claims with no reference to supporting evidence.
It’s common knowledge that vegetarians and vegans need to supplement because they simply can’t get all the nutrients they need to stay healthy from plants alone.
As for the studies that have debunked the claim linking high cholesterol levels to heart disease and other conditions, they are all out there, feel free to do your own research. The vilification of red meat has been conclusively proven to be a false narrative pushed by food companies.
For a bit of easy on the eye education on this you may want to check out the previously mentioned Dr Chaffee on YouTube - I promise you’ll like what you see, ladies
The Australian or American Dr Chaffee. There seem to be two "
He’s an American who lives and works in Australia, so both, I suppose 😂 |
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"In 1900 life expectancy in England and Wales was 44 for men. "
Average life expectancies from the past are a bit of a red herring because of the fact infant mortality was so high and women's life expectancy (on average) was much lower due to the fact trying to gestate and birth babies killed them off at alarming rates. If you made it to early adulthood and we're male and not sent off to fight in a war or something, living to 70s or 80s wasn't as uncommon as we think it is.
Almost all of my direct relatives who did not die an unnatural death in a gas chamber, lived to at least 75, going back to people born in the late 1700s. The only exception is my maternal Great Grandmother, who died in her 30s (relating to childbirth. Obviously). |
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"In 1900 life expectancy in England and Wales was 44 for men.
Average life expectancies from the past are a bit of a red herring because of the fact infant mortality was so high and women's life expectancy (on average) was much lower due to the fact trying to gestate and birth babies killed them off at alarming rates. If you made it to early adulthood and we're male and not sent off to fight in a war or something, living to 70s or 80s wasn't as uncommon as we think it is.
Almost all of my direct relatives who did not die an unnatural death in a gas chamber, lived to at least 75, going back to people born in the late 1700s. The only exception is my maternal Great Grandmother, who died in her 30s (relating to childbirth. Obviously). "
Yeah my post was in response to this from another contributor
'If you imagine how long our grandparents lived for its startling. Primarily because the meat came from down the road, the veg from fields around their houses. None of these pesticides and antibiotics caused by the race to the bottom.' |
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After reviewing all the responses, it’s evident that many individuals may not have conducted thorough research or may be placing undue trust in their doctors' recommendations. Unfortunately, this can lead to a lack of understanding about dietary options. The carnivore lifestyle, in particular, is often cited as one of the most comprehensive diets for human health, providing essential nutrients in a highly bioavailable form. It's crucial for people to explore various perspectives and educate themselves about the potential benefits and challenges of such dietary choices. |
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"After reviewing all the responses, it’s evident that many individuals may not have conducted thorough research or may be placing undue trust in their doctors' recommendations. Unfortunately, this can lead to a lack of understanding about dietary options. The carnivore lifestyle, in particular, is often cited as one of the most comprehensive diets for human health, providing essential nutrients in a highly bioavailable form. It's crucial for people to explore various perspectives and educate themselves about the potential benefits and challenges of such dietary choices."
Are you foing to provide these citations? If you're going to make such claims the burden of evidence is on you. Not others to go and find it. |
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"After reviewing all the responses, it’s evident that many individuals may not have conducted thorough research or may be placing undue trust in their doctors' recommendations. Unfortunately, this can lead to a lack of understanding about dietary options. The carnivore lifestyle, in particular, is often cited as one of the most comprehensive diets for human health, providing essential nutrients in a highly bioavailable form. It's crucial for people to explore various perspectives and educate themselves about the potential benefits and challenges of such dietary choices."
This stands for pretty much all diets. Fad or otherwise.
The Internet is a wash of both information and misinformation. You will find arguments and speeches and statistics to support just about any point of view.
The carnivore diet may work for some people. Some people it just won't. |
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"After reviewing all the responses, it’s evident that many individuals may not have conducted thorough research or may be placing undue trust in their doctors' recommendations. Unfortunately, this can lead to a lack of understanding about dietary options. The carnivore lifestyle, in particular, is often cited as one of the most comprehensive diets for human health, providing essential nutrients in a highly bioavailable form. It's crucial for people to explore various perspectives and educate themselves about the potential benefits and challenges of such dietary choices.
This stands for pretty much all diets. Fad or otherwise.
The Internet is a wash of both information and misinformation. You will find arguments and speeches and statistics to support just about any point of view.
The carnivore diet may work for some people. Some people it just won't."
Yeah it's been life changing for me, I stumbled into it after eliminating everything out my diet that was making me ill and ending up on the carnivore diet. I've gone from housebound to feeling better than I have in years so for me the health benefits outweigh every other diet option by a mile.
If other people eat carnivore, believe in it or think it's a load of crap is completely irrelevant. They do them and I'll do me. |
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"A carnivore diet may have some benefits but it can also contribute to very high cholesterol levels (particularly LDL) and some nutrient deficiencies.
No nutrient deficiencies whatsoever, only vegans and vegetarians need supplementation.
It’s now accepted that cholesterol levels have no link to disease which isn’t surprising as every cell in our body is needs cholesterol 🤷♂️ "
Erm vitamin C, there's a reason why the Brits are called limeys.
As with cholesterol, yes it's a vital part of our cell membrane. However, it is not accepted that it doesn't have a link to disease. In fact there's lots of studies saying different things currently which no definitive answer.
The study I presume you are referring to says that the link between high cholesterol and heart disease is inconsistent. Which is a far cry from accepted. As always it's important to read various sources and critically review all the data not just the papers that agree with us, else you're opening yourself to bias. |
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Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice. |
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"Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice."
Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle. |
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"Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice.
Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle. "
Turns out fibre was causing a huge amount of inflammation for me. My digestive system has never been better after cutting it out |
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"Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle. "
Inuit lifespans are about ten years shorter than Danes on average. Mortality from cerebrovascular strokes averaging twice that of any other population, likely do to the witnessed extensive fatty deposits within the arteries. And severe osteoporosis among women as young as their twenties, bone density averaging 10-15% worse off than US Caucasians.
The human ability to survive in unfavourable circumstances is truly amazing. That doesn't sound like thriving 💜 |
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"Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice.
Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle. "
But they have genetic mutations that have evolved over thousands of years to compensate for their diet... Mr & Mrs Bloggs from the UK don't |
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"Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice.
Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle.
But they have genetic mutations that have evolved over thousands of years to compensate for their diet... Mr & Mrs Bloggs from the UK don't "
That’s funny😂 |
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"Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle.
Inuit lifespans are about ten years shorter than Danes on average. Mortality from cerebrovascular strokes averaging twice that of any other population, likely do to the witnessed extensive fatty deposits within the arteries. And severe osteoporosis among women as young as their twenties, bone density averaging 10-15% worse off than US Caucasians.
The human ability to survive in unfavourable circumstances is truly amazing. That doesn't sound like thriving 💜"
What do you think they eat now? They even have shops these days 🤦♂️ |
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"Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle.
Inuit lifespans are about ten years shorter than Danes on average. Mortality from cerebrovascular strokes averaging twice that of any other population, likely do to the witnessed extensive fatty deposits within the arteries. And severe osteoporosis among women as young as their twenties, bone density averaging 10-15% worse off than US Caucasians.
The human ability to survive in unfavourable circumstances is truly amazing. That doesn't sound like thriving 💜
What do you think they eat now? They even have shops these days 🤦♂️"
Yes. This is data from Inuit corpses prior to 1970, as the last 50 or so years the modern world has wildly affected their diet and means of living. |
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"Hello all,
I have embraced the carnivore lifestyle for the last 7 months and never felt so great plus I have lost 1 stone. Is there anyone else on fab who is on carnivore too?"
100% carnivore for over 4 years, feel great on it! Not for everyone but I for one will be sticking to it! No aches or pains, gained muscle, lost fat more energy than when I was in my 20's all my health issues gone! |
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"It is actually for everyone "
No diet is for everyone. People have different tolerances for certain foods, dislike some textures, have allergies, religious or cultural restrictions etc.
We're very fortunate in that many of us can choose our diet because we can afford to and there's a variety of foods to select from. I think we're fortunate |
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"It is actually for everyone
Bullshit.
People with Phenylketonuria would 100% disagree. "
You can get a weird condition from tick bites that makes you allergic to meat too. I would be devastated as a bottom. |
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"Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice.
Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle.
But they have genetic mutations that have evolved over thousands of years to compensate for their diet... Mr & Mrs Bloggs from the UK don't "
Also I think the climate being so cold means they needed the extra fat. |
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"Again a fade… what is it with people? Only meat, only plants, fasting, and, and, and … some people desperately struggle to be novel.
We are not obligate carnivores, nor are we able to be vegan. Our body copes with periods of fasting because through our evolution we developed the storage of energy in adipose tissue and glycogen.
The concern I have with the concept of a pure meat diet is the absence of meaningful fibre and roughage needed for a healthy gut and the disproportionate ratio of protein to non-protein calories given our lifestyle.
There is also the denial of the pleasure of multiple flavours, textures etc provided by the bountiful options. Like vegan/vegetarians, the denial of part of your normal diet is akin to some masochistic choice.
Where would the Inuit get fibre? It isn’t needed. Fat and protein are the only essentials for health. What we want and what we need are two different things.
If we needed fibre or carbohydrates humanity would not have been able to survive in the Arctic. But we did and we thrived.
Eat what you want but the Inuit peoples of the Arctic are the perfect example of the health benefits of a totally carnivore lifestyle. "
Really not true.
They do eat a disproportionately high amount of meat, but thinking that the live on pack ice on nothing but meat is wrong. For centuries man has traded on resource for another. In the Inuit peoples case, it was for those items they could not forage for in the very short summer. Today’s Inuit, while maintaining (with difficulty) traditional culture, are struggling more with abuse of alcohol than fibre. But I assure you the alcohol was not distilled from polar bear scat. |
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