Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).
So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! |
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"So because other countries do nothing we shouldn't? 🤔"
No, however to put it into context it's like trying to use a thimble to bail water out of the titanic. My point is if you actually want true change and not an excuse to revenue raise then tackle the major cause. |
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"Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).
So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! "
Agreed we used to be an industrial power house in this country but instead we gave it away to all the slve labour countries |
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Your post created 2-3g of Co2 and by the end of this thread the servers responsible for a few more drops of water from a melting iceberg.
That crap of Temu ? It’s true cost is probably several thousand pounds and a a few kilo of Co2
The only way the problem is ever going to solved is by making people and corporations pay the real cost for their actions and decisions. People won’t just decide to be good |
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By *hilloutMan 5 weeks ago
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Green taxes are an absolute scam. They lower the standard of living and make production of everything more expensive and uncompetitive. A painful lesson Germany is currently learning as it becomes de-undustrialised.
I'm sure people will feel great about helping the environment when heating their homes costs a fortune and the price of everything they buy becomes prohibitive. |
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Well, it’s progress
Britain first to industrialise with coal leading that and people can moan but if get ahead or catch up on others with the green technology it’s another technology revolution in a way.
Today should be last day of coal powered electricity in UK. |
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"Green taxes are an absolute scam. They lower the standard of living and make production of everything more expensive and uncompetitive. A painful lesson Germany is currently learning as it becomes de-undustrialised.
I'm sure people will feel great about helping the environment when heating their homes costs a fortune and the price of everything they buy becomes prohibitive. "
Mate lives in Germany and you're absolutely correct. Germany was a power house and it's going down the pan. It's like heat pumps... That need a gas boost as they can't do the job alone. You've hot the nail on the head. |
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"Well, it’s progress
Britain first to industrialise with coal leading that and people can moan but if get ahead or catch up on others with the green technology it’s another technology revolution in a way.
Today should be last day of coal powered electricity in UK."
Indeed it is the last day of it in the UK.... Still only over 3000 to get rid of in China |
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What do you suggest?
Should we pop over to China and close down their power stations?
Or maybe just stop buying shit from China?
Or just point at them loudly while doing whatever we wish? Cos they're way worse than us... allegedly. |
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"Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).
So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! "
This has been common knowledge for a while.
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People in general lack the ability to think abstractly into the future. Because people can't understand things they haven't experienced we're not going to stop climate change but we are going to have to deal with it when it comes. |
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"What do you suggest?
Should we pop over to China and close down their power stations?
Or maybe just stop buying shit from China?
Or just point at them loudly while doing whatever we wish? Cos they're way worse than us... allegedly."
Stopping buying the cheap shite that’s on a certain website/app might help. |
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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago
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"They push the green agenda as the elite have investments in the industry. Nothing to do with "saving the planet"."
Wouldn't think they're doing too badly from their investments in oil. Or arms. |
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Even forgetting China for the minute...
Most large EU countries cut their output by just stopping and purchasing coal energy from eastern European countries to try and fiddle their numbers.
Nothing is really helping the matter but it's slow progress.
Everyone needs to throw large (like completely ridiculous) taxes on Chinese goods to start the move away we and they need from heavy industry. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 5 weeks ago
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"So because other countries do nothing we shouldn't? 🤔
No. How on earth can you miss the point ?
Read it again. "
What point did I miss?
How do you propose we enforce any restrictions on China? We have zero control over Chinese government policy.
I'm not arguing against the point that China produces a huge amount of pollution. Just curious how you propose to change that? 🤔 |
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"Green taxes are an absolute scam. They lower the standard of living and make production of everything more expensive and uncompetitive. A painful lesson Germany is currently learning as it becomes de-undustrialised.
I'm sure people will feel great about helping the environment when heating their homes costs a fortune and the price of everything they buy becomes prohibitive. "
If it’s done right it’s not about feeling good it’s about changing behaviours.
Paying sportsman millions to wear sneakers to make them ‘cool’ while simultaneously running sweatshops in Indonesia amd polluting the planet and then charging £100 for something that’s costs a dollar or two to make. People don’t feel bad about this , so stick an extra £900 tax on them for the abuse of people, planet and resources and let’s those who still want to be ‘cool’ and can afford them have them.
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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago
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Ah 'sheeple'. Always from the mouth of a true independent thinker 
Coal has long been the least source of power in this country for many reasons. But you keep fighting the good fight. |
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Bored of hearing the self centred argument.
Few important points
A) no one has ever said we must stop co2 getting into atmosphere, ever. It’s amount reducing the amount and the rate it’s going into atmosphere. So, if Europe and America do there bit and China carry on, the global levels will still be less.
B) with more electric cars and energy firms going green it means the treasury is receiving less money, that gap needs to be replaced to pay for services ect (if the govt spend appropriately of course!)
Basically, if you look beyond your own tiny circle the answers and reasons are there.
If everyone changes 1% of their life to be greener, it’ll make a huge difference.
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"If you put a couple of ice cubes in a glass and fill it with water to the brim and leave it for the ice cubes to melt, does the glass over flow? "
The mistake you're making here is assuming that the ice they're worried about is the stuff that's floating.
The vast majority of the ice is locked up on land at the south pole etc.
If that melts then the water level increases. |
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By *lynJMan 5 weeks ago
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"Just going to throw this out there. If you add the population of the EU, UK and USA together China has approx 1.8 x the population. (there's a few of them). If you add the amount of coal fired power stations up in the same areas China has approx 6.5 x as many. (there's alot of them too - over 3000 of them).
So next time the government bang on about climate change and green taxes... The only green is going out of your bank and into the governments coffers. Or to put it another way, the UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations any more. But don't worry, your taxes make a big difference to climate change! "
The UK doesn't have any coal powered power stations from today.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y35qz73n8o |
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