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Jodie Marsh has the courage to challenge schools who don't want to admit to bullying problems...Good for her, and whether you like her or not,she's doing something she's genuinely passionate about, and she's actually made a lot of people face up to the fact that bullies get away with murder in our schools.
Sometimes almost literally.
I'd personally like to know the name of the bus driver who was mentioned in tonight's programme... |
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"Jodie Marsh has the courage to challenge schools who don't want to admit to bullying problems...Good for her, and whether you like her or not,she's doing something she's genuinely passionate about, and she's actually made a lot of people face up to the fact that bullies get away with murder in our schools.
Sometimes almost literally.
I'd personally like to know the name of the bus driver who was mentioned in tonight's programme..."
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying  "
200 people per year are killed by coconuts |
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"It annoys me when people say they are being cyber bullied. Just dont go on social network sites.
Then surely the bullies have won. "
No you stopped them from bullying so you win |
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When my youngest son was bullied, I was banned from entering the school, as I'd had a word with a few of the bullies parents.
It usually is the victim or the victims family who is singled out by the schools... |
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts "
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously |
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Bullying is nasty, I was bullied everyday from the age of 5 until I was 10. It stopped when we moved. It nearly started again until I found I had a good right hook. I never bullied anyone but started fighting back. |
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"It annoys me when people say they are being cyber bullied. Just dont go on social network sites.
Then surely the bullies have won.
No you stopped them from bullying so you win "
So while your friends are on whatever media they use what are you supposed to do ? If you enjoy FB for instance why should you stop using it because some idiot thinks they're brave sitting behind a screen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts "
What do coconuts have to do with children taking their own lives exactly? |
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously "
No not really its character building |
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"Bullying is nasty, I was bullied everyday from the age of 5 until I was 10. It stopped when we moved. It nearly started again until I found I had a good right hook. I never bullied anyone but started fighting back. "
Good for you.
Bullies are scum. |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building "
Character building? To be belittled, picked on, left out and all the other horrible things bullies do to their victims.
Guess you were the bully rather than the bullied then?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
What do coconuts have to do with children taking their own lives exactly?"
Just showing 21 people taking own life from bullying is not a high figure |
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building "
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
What do coconuts have to do with children taking their own lives exactly?
Just showing 21 people taking own life from bullying is not a high figure "
21 is an acceptable number then?
What would you deem an unacceptably high number?
Myself, it's just 1... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
Character building? To be belittled, picked on, left out and all the other horrible things bullies do to their victims.
Guess you were the bully rather than the bullied then? "
No I wasn't a bully or bullied |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?"
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way "
 Really? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
What do coconuts have to do with children taking their own lives exactly?
Just showing 21 people taking own life from bullying is not a high figure
21 is an acceptable number then?
What would you deem an unacceptably high number?
Myself, it's just 1..."
But how will you stop it? Im just saying its not a high number. There are other issues which need to be dealt with well in front of bullying |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way "
I'd ask the 14 year old lad who hung himself from his bed, but I fear he wouldn't be able to comment |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
What do coconuts have to do with children taking their own lives exactly?
Just showing 21 people taking own life from bullying is not a high figure
21 is an acceptable number then?
What would you deem an unacceptably high number?
Myself, it's just 1...
But how will you stop it? Im just saying its not a high number. There are other issues which need to be dealt with well in front of bullying "
Your sensitivity and humility towards your fellow human beings is truly humbling |
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way
Really?"
Yeah of course. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way "
Just when I'd thought I'd heard it all someone comes along and surprises me.
Good grief. |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way
Really?
Yeah of course. "
You've admitted that you weren't bullied so you are talking from a point of no experience. Therefore I'm no longer taking your views in this matter on board.
Bullying can destroy lives, whether its suicide or a lifetime of damage, to the victim and their families.
Try a little empathy, oh and good luck in meeting anyone after showing your true colours on here - most people look for a little compassion. |
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way
I'd ask the 14 year old lad who hung himself from his bed, but I fear he wouldn't be able to comment"
People who got through it. It does shape their character. So everyone minus 21 |
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building "
What a crass and heartless comment!
I take it you're not a parent as I can't imagine anyone with children would adopt the attitude of 'it's character building'.
My youngest daughter was almost a suicide statistic when she attempted to end her own life at the age of 13 because she was being bullied at school - this extended onto the internet when a certain gang of girls messaged her, saying they were going to 'kick her head in' the next day. I didn't regard my daughter's plight as character building at all!
Our lives were pretty much devastated - she couldn't return to school and had to be educated at home for her remaining 3 years in compulsory education.
Bullying can and does ruin lives! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see someone trying to do something about children being bullied at school, 21 people take their own life every year through bullying
200 people per year are killed by coconuts
I'm guessing you don't take the issue of bullying seriously
No not really its character building
I wonder how the siblings and friends of the 14 year old boy who hung himself have built their characters since then?
And if you asked people who were bullied, all will say it has shaped their character in some way
Really?
Yeah of course.
You've admitted that you weren't bullied so you are talking from a point of no experience. Therefore I'm no longer taking your views in this matter on board.
Bullying can destroy lives, whether its suicide or a lifetime of damage, to the victim and their families.
Try a little empathy, oh and good luck in meeting anyone after showing your true colours on here - most people look for a little compassion."
Lol I wasnt bullied so cant comment? |
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I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So the boy in America who was punched so hard he ended up in a wheelchair...He would be grateful for that act of character shaping too?"
That is assault which put him in wheelchair. Thats beyond bullying |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do. "
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown |
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"So the boy in America who was punched so hard he ended up in a wheelchair...He would be grateful for that act of character shaping too?
That is assault which put him in wheelchair. Thats beyond bullying "
Errrr Duhh
It was done by a boy who was BULLYING HIM |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown "
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So the boy in America who was punched so hard he ended up in a wheelchair...He would be grateful for that act of character shaping too?
That is assault which put him in wheelchair. Thats beyond bullying
Errrr Duhh
Yeah and he took it beyond bullying
It was done by a boy who was BULLYING HIM"
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"I don't like bullies - but I also don't like the victim culture. And I really don't like Jody Marsh.
So agree, sorry "
I don't know who said this but I agree with it .....
Schools need Jodie Marsh as much as they Need Jamie Oliver. 0% |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Bullying is a fact of life, always has been and always will be. it's unfortunately human nature which is much less civilised in children and the immature (workplace bullying by adults also happens)
Weird thing is for some reason the school authority always appear to back the bully against the victim. My son took punches and had his clothes torn every day for months despite several visits to the school. When I eventually cracked and taught him some defence methods against greater numbers he fought back, HE got detention and I had to fight to prevent an expulsion. The bullies were never confronted or punished which seems to be a common theme from many parents around the country.
Thankfully he was never bullied again and probably never will be. Cyber bullying should be easy to stop, there is a clear evidence trail, prosecution should be simple but it never seems to happen until someone dies. |
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The Age of Trolls. Maybe we should make it fashionable to bully and ostracise bigots rather than take the treading on eggshells and turning a blind eye approach |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up."
So what do you think should happen then? How you gonna stop bullying? Everyone has taken the piss out of someone, everyone has called other names, everyone has excluded someone. Its part of growing up. Even you have done it |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown "
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly. |
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"The Age of Trolls. Maybe we should make it fashionable to bully and ostracise bigots rather than take the treading on eggshells and turning a blind eye approach"
Yeah let's gang up on them 
Oh no... |
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"Totally agree, and now with text and cyber bullying its worse than ever.
I agree my niece who is 12 was getting it through Facebook
Poor love "
What is a 12 year old doing on Facebook? The minimum age limit is 13. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up.
So what do you think should happen then? How you gonna stop bullying? Everyone has taken the piss out of someone, everyone has called other names, everyone has excluded someone. Its part of growing up. Even you have done it "
Actually I was quite a nice kid.
I can honestly say I never bullied anyone or stood by and watched anyone else being bullied. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up.
So what do you think should happen then? How you gonna stop bullying? Everyone has taken the piss out of someone, everyone has called other names, everyone has excluded someone. Its part of growing up. Even you have done it
Actually I was quite a nice kid.
I can honestly say I never bullied anyone or stood by and watched anyone else being bullied."
Lol dont try and tell me you not done this stuff. It is human nature. You not taken the piss out of nobody in your entire life? |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly."
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare."
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up.
So what do you think should happen then? How you gonna stop bullying? Everyone has taken the piss out of someone, everyone has called other names, everyone has excluded someone. Its part of growing up. Even you have done it
Actually I was quite a nice kid.
I can honestly say I never bullied anyone or stood by and watched anyone else being bullied.
Lol dont try and tell me you not done this stuff. It is human nature. You not taken the piss out of nobody in your entire life? "
Never to upset someone to that degree, nope |
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Yes as kids we can be cruel with name calling etc but when it gets to where kids are frightened to go to school because of it.
Look at some of the cases over the last few years of kids hanging themselves and more.
The system does fail alot of people and it's not right. In some cases it can make people grow up to be stronger but for others it can make them crumble and have no confidence in their later life.
My sister was 21 before she could bring herself to just walk to the corner shop on her own. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up.
So what do you think should happen then? How you gonna stop bullying? Everyone has taken the piss out of someone, everyone has called other names, everyone has excluded someone. Its part of growing up. Even you have done it
Actually I was quite a nice kid.
I can honestly say I never bullied anyone or stood by and watched anyone else being bullied.
Lol dont try and tell me you not done this stuff. It is human nature. You not taken the piss out of nobody in your entire life?
Never to upset someone to that degree, nope"
You still done it though like everyone else. Part of human nature. Only difference is bullies prolong it. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me."
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead."
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
That will be of great comfort to the children who are going through it daily then...All they have to do is wait until their tormentors grow up.
So what do you think should happen then? How you gonna stop bullying? Everyone has taken the piss out of someone, everyone has called other names, everyone has excluded someone. Its part of growing up. Even you have done it
Actually I was quite a nice kid.
I can honestly say I never bullied anyone or stood by and watched anyone else being bullied.
Lol dont try and tell me you not done this stuff. It is human nature. You not taken the piss out of nobody in your entire life?
Never to upset someone to that degree, nope
You still done it though like everyone else. Part of human nature. Only difference is bullies prolong it. "
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault "
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal |
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never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away |
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away"
All I want to know is how you gonna stamp it out? Everyone saying lets stop bullying. How? |
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away"
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away"
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away
All I want to know is how you gonna stamp it out? Everyone saying lets stop bullying. How? "
Well thankfully it won't be left to you so it's not a completely lost cause eh? |
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away
All I want to know is how you gonna stamp it out? Everyone saying lets stop bullying. How? "
ur asking dumb questions to try getting some responses, and making dumb statements and u know it.
stamp it out means show that it will not be tolerated and there will be punishment.
please stop hiding behind twisting the meanings of 'it happens just accept it'
we dont accept racism,sexism as the norm expression for society...bullying is another we should not accept
whether its cyber bullying or real world bullying, it has the same consequences, so indeed the education is how u spread the anti-bullying message.
hope my answer is clear, u knew it urself anyway..
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal"
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong. |
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away
All I want to know is how you gonna stamp it out? Everyone saying lets stop bullying. How?
ur asking dumb questions to try getting some responses, and making dumb statements and u know it.
stamp it out means show that it will not be tolerated and there will be punishment.
please stop hiding behind twisting the meanings of 'it happens just accept it'
we dont accept racism,sexism as the norm expression for society...bullying is another we should not accept
whether its cyber bullying or real world bullying, it has the same consequences, so indeed the education is how u spread the anti-bullying message.
hope my answer is clear, u knew it urself anyway..
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Lol you spread the message. Bullying will always happen.just one of those things we have to accept. |
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"never been bullied, despite where I grew up
character building I'm hearing?- thats a pile of shite
I might want a rosy dosey life for my possible future kids...what they will get is the appreciation for other beings
survival of the fittest always comes into mind..its a very weak argument based on the selfish gene
stamp it out at an early age straight away
All I want to know is how you gonna stamp it out? Everyone saying lets stop bullying. How?
ur asking dumb questions to try getting some responses, and making dumb statements and u know it.
stamp it out means show that it will not be tolerated and there will be punishment.
please stop hiding behind twisting the meanings of 'it happens just accept it'
we dont accept racism,sexism as the norm expression for society...bullying is another we should not accept
whether its cyber bullying or real world bullying, it has the same consequences, so indeed the education is how u spread the anti-bullying message.
hope my answer is clear, u knew it urself anyway..
Lol you spread the message. Bullying will always happen.just one of those things we have to accept. "
so u'd sit back and accept ur child being bullied or bullying...ahh...cant u see thats much of the problem in society today?
and really no matter how successful someone may become for becoming a 'stronger' person...they never enjoyed the bullying
but do enjoy making inane statements that make no real sense..ur staying on track.great stuff. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong."
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong.
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act."
Right I give up you guys win bullying is really bad and needs to be stopped. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong.
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Right I give up you guys win bullying is really bad and needs to be stopped. "
It does indeed
Next time you try to be controversial might I respectfully suggest you pick a less emotive topic? |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong.
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Right I give up you guys win bullying is really bad and needs to be stopped.
It does indeed
Next time you try to be controversial might I respectfully suggest you pick a less emotive topic?"
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong.
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Right I give up you guys win bullying is really bad and needs to be stopped.
It does indeed
Next time you try to be controversial might I respectfully suggest you pick a less emotive topic?"
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong.
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Right I give up you guys win bullying is really bad and needs to be stopped. "
It shouldn't be a case of "you guys win"
Bullying should be thought of as bad anyways!!! |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Yeah but it happens when you are young. Most bullies are not bullies as adults. Its part of growing up like this guy has shown
The only time I've been bullied is as an adult - by a little old woman. The kind that's become famous in a 'mans world' and thinks it gives them a power over others. A few straight words eventually sorted the relationship, but it wasn't pleasant.
I think there's a case that we all have to learn to cope. Not excusing bullies by any stretch - but there does need to be balance and to me it's important to encourage our children to stand their ground and have confidence in themselves.
For the woman I mention she's a really impressive person, and quite likely her attitude, in part, got her to where she is.
On a separate note, I'm sorry but I can't take Marsh credibly.
We're talking about children here though, not adults who have learned to be confident in their approach towards whatever life chucks at us.
It's a bit different for a child who has to go to school and face abuse on a daily basis and who feels alone and terrified, especially when the very people who are supposed to be looking after them seem not to give a toss about their welfare.
Kind of missing the point though that it is our childhood experiences that make us into the adults we become. It bothers me that there is so much emphasis on BULLY that children don't learn to become resilient.
I have to say too that if my children failed to disclose to me they were being bullied - the person I would be most angry with - is me.
With respect, there is a difference between children doing a bit of name calling, and children doing such physical and/or mental damage that another child ends up disabled or dead.
Yes - one is assault
Which one is assault?
The law says only SOME forms of bullying are illegal
With good reason. One persons bullying may be another's 'kick up the arse' if you legislated against that society wouldn't function.
Assault would be the physical damage. Different from 'abuse' which also would be wrong.
Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Right I give up you guys win bullying is really bad and needs to be stopped.
It does indeed
Next time you try to be controversial might I respectfully suggest you pick a less emotive topic?
Yh I posted on the adebayour topic instead "
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See how many people you can upset on there then LOL |
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"wasnt annoyed, just cant see how bullying can be positive in the slightest, for bully or bullied!"
If you're referring to my post to him, I was being patronising... |
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"wasnt annoyed, just cant see how bullying can be positive in the slightest, for bully or bullied!
If you're referring to my post to him, I was being patronising..."
i know lol, what I was meaning was as the posts went on, it looked like people were getting more annoyed- I wast just highlighting nobody wants to be bullied..whether it built character or not |
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"wasnt annoyed, just cant see how bullying can be positive in the slightest, for bully or bullied!
If you're referring to my post to him, I was being patronising...
i know lol, what I was meaning was as the posts went on, it looked like people were getting more annoyed- I wast just highlighting nobody wants to be bullied..whether it built character or not"
He was just trying to be amusing but it backfired so now he's slunk off to annoy on another thread
Bless his little cotton socks
That's me patronising him again btw lol |
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Lots of high-horsed ststements of intent on this thread but virtually no suggestions for how to deal with it. Typical! Ash isn't so far from the truth as people are making out (although sone comments are too simplistic). As a teacher I deal with this almost every day. We have very little power to deal with it (blame the parents for eroding our 'authority' over the years). How does a school stop what is written on facebook? Or said in the playground? Or the evil looks? "Yes mr smith, i put your child in detention (the one they didn't turn up to) because they were looking at another kid funny"..... In virtually every case where i have told a parent their child is bullying, the parent has argued and claimed that THEIR child is the one being targetted. Then it becomes, "he said, she said..." and is impossible to solve. Disgraceful, deluded parents, the same who believe their child because "they wouldn't lie to me". And i'm talking about normal, respectable parents, not jeremy kyle fodder.
Unless you can suggest a solution, don't bother stamping your feet about bullying because you are not helping |
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Having been bullied myself it was hell as I wasn't "Normal" as I was a goth.
In the end the bully left school and it stopped but at that stage I wasn't eating or sleeping and the thought of running away seemed likely. Did I want to kill myself no but in my late 20's I did try so I think it never goes away that horrible feeling |
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"Lovely girl Jodie met her in sugar hut had a dance n kiss with her very nice girl "
Never really liked her but after watching her last night and doing the bodybuilding I admire her now |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do. "
Rusty, I applaud you for owning up. So often in these sort of conversations, bullies never show their faces and the parents of those bullies are conspicuous by their absence. |
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"I look back at who I was when I was in school and think what a horrible bastard I was. I'll admit I was a bully back then, but then when I was 18 I saw the effects it has after my sister went through being bullied and started self harming.
It's a stupid thing to be and do.
Rusty, I applaud you for owning up. So often in these sort of conversations, bullies never show their faces and the parents of those bullies are conspicuous by their absence. "
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In all my years' experience, the best and quickest way to stop bullying is to stand up to them and/or fight back. Not politically correct, but effective. A quick out-of-nowhere surprise response usually makes the bully look elsewhere and show that the victim won't take it anymore. Hard, fast and merciless. The short term repercussions may be bad but in the long term it works, i have scores of real life examples of where this has worked |
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"Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act."
Legally they're quite different - I'm sure you understood the point made but you've chosen to take an interpretation that suited your continuing argument. |
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"In all my years' experience, the best and quickest way to stop bullying is to stand up to them and/or fight back. Not politically correct, but effective. A quick out-of-nowhere surprise response usually makes the bully look elsewhere and show that the victim won't take it anymore. Hard, fast and merciless. The short term repercussions may be bad but in the long term it works, i have scores of real life examples of where this has worked"
This isn't so easy to do online - but I agree in so far as supporting kids to stand their ground, articulate their point, and know when to move away. Skills we all find we need at points in our life. |
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"In all my years' experience, the best and quickest way to stop bullying is to stand up to them and/or fight back. Not politically correct, but effective. A quick out-of-nowhere surprise response usually makes the bully look elsewhere and show that the victim won't take it anymore. Hard, fast and merciless. The short term repercussions may be bad but in the long term it works, i have scores of real life examples of where this has worked"
That may be a solution in the case of a single bully but in many cases (my daughter's included) the bullies come in a gang. There was no way my non-violent 13 year old daughter could physically fight 6 other girls. And I wouldn't have wanted her to.
I believe the answer is to tackle the problem at a VERY young age. Toddlers are egocentric by nature - one example of that is that they don't 'share' toys naturally - they need to learn to become social creatures. I think it's at that point they need to be taught empathy and how it's not acceptable in any way to make someone else feel bad.
It might not stamp bullying out completely later on (you can't account for all kids) but it may help in some way... even if it's to create an anti-bullying culture where peer pressure plays an active role in stopping it. |
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"In all my years' experience, the best and quickest way to stop bullying is to stand up to them and/or fight back. Not politically correct, but effective. A quick out-of-nowhere surprise response usually makes the bully look elsewhere and show that the victim won't take it anymore. Hard, fast and merciless. The short term repercussions may be bad but in the long term it works, i have scores of real life examples of where this has worked
That may be a solution in the case of a single bully but in many cases (my daughter's included) the bullies come in a gang. There was no way my non-violent 13 year old daughter could physically fight 6 other girls. And I wouldn't have wanted her to.
I believe the answer is to tackle the problem at a VERY young age. Toddlers are egocentric by nature - one example of that is that they don't 'share' toys naturally - they need to learn to become social creatures. I think it's at that point they need to be taught empathy and how it's not acceptable in any way to make someone else feel bad.
It might not stamp bullying out completely later on (you can't account for all kids) but it may help in some way... even if it's to create an anti-bullying culture where peer pressure plays an active role in stopping it."
Really critical I'd say - the really early years have a huge impact. |
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I was bullied for a long time during my teens and twenties by my father who stripped me of any confidence to the extent that I have been told by a therapist he abused me psychologically
I was unable to stand up to him during those days - it is not easy when you have been isolated and made to feel so inadequate & weak
As I grew older and his influence waned as I cut off ties. But fear turned to hate and up until 18 months ago I was ready to physically harm him if he came near me irrelevant of the consequences
Through therapy I now have come to terms with what happened and feel released from the anger I carried with me. I've had to come to terms with the fact that I learned my father’s behaviour and had bullied others
What my father behaviour has shown me is horrific affects a bully can have and that parents have a huge influence over the moral attitudes of their children.
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There's a difference between the personal strength from standing up for yourself and having the confidence of self belief - from the 'knock them out with a baseball bat', they'll get what comes to them, I'll find somebody bigger to bully them, ranty ranty attitudes.
The latter is only a step away from the act they supposedly despise.
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"There's a difference between the personal strength from standing up for yourself and having the confidence of self belief - from the 'knock them out with a baseball bat', they'll get what comes to them, I'll find somebody bigger to bully them, ranty ranty attitudes.
The latter is only a step away from the act they supposedly despise.
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Schools have no power to deal with this sort of adequately, as much as they'd like to.
You can't expel someone for bullying. Not even for fighting, especially a one off.
A school has to show it has done everything it can to support the bully before expulsion can be considered otherwise it will be overturned on appeal within minutes. Anger management, pastoral support programs, reports, etc. it takes about 2 years to expel someone these days.
Thank tony blair/labour for their "inclusion" policy which set limits on how many kids you could expel and the process involved. All to get the headline expulsion figures down |
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i was never "bullied" at school but i was picked on a bit!! there is a massive difference between the 2. think the term bullying is over-used today. if a kid called me a name i would just agree with them and say "yes i am and what?" they soon run out of ammo agsinst u!! am teachin my son the same.
as for cyber bullyin i dont really get how its such a big deal tbh!! just dont read it!! and if kids are openly threatening ur child online then take the evidence to the school or the police!! |
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"Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Legally they're quite different - I'm sure you understood the point made but you've chosen to take an interpretation that suited your continuing argument."
Yes I understood it quite well
I'm a law student |
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When my daughter moved from junior to high school a few years ago she got in with a group of girls who all knew each other (she was only 1 of 2 girls from her junior school so she didn't know anyone in her new High School). One of these girls was a bully and singled my daughter out because my daughter is smart - she's top of her class in every subject and set to get 10 A*s. This girl quickly turned the pack on other girls once she'd got rid of my daughter from the group but she forgot to realise that she's quickly run out of 'victims' and she ended up ostracising herself.
That's not the same as physical violence I know but to my daughter it felt very painful and we saw a bright vivacious young girl turn very sullen and quiet in that first year. Her mum wanted to march into school and confront this girl and her parents (and the teachers) but I stopped her as I knew it would more harm than good. Sometimes kids are just jockeying for position and my daughter soon found another bunch of friends who are still her friends today.
I agree wholeheartedly with the post above by a teacher who says it's very difficult to expel a bully, and in a lot of cases the school itself will not admit it has a bullying problem. |
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"Yeah that boy who hung himself might have disagreed with you on those points.
And assault isn't only an actual physical act.
Legally they're quite different - I'm sure you understood the point made but you've chosen to take an interpretation that suited your continuing argument.
Yes I understood it quite well
I'm a law student "
and I'm a judge |
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What exactly do people expect the teachers/school to do? Exactly what? A lot of people have unrealistic expectations about what is within our power.
We can't stop them saying things in the playground (breaktime detentions only work if the kid bothers turning up to the detention), we can't stop the bully getting on the same bus, we can't stop what they write on facebook. If the police get involved then the school HAS to back off as any 'punishment' from us assumes guilt and compromises a fair 'trial'.
Sorry folks, thats the way it is. Enrol your kids in sport and karate lessons. |
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Was bullied in high school because I allowed myself to be. My older brother who had just left as soon as I joined wasn't a bully but he gave our surname the label of a troublemaker. So if I wanted to have the best chance, I should behave myself, study hard and leave it to the authority element of the school to watch out for me, which they didn't.
So I started fighting back and then they started questioning my behaviour and "disciplining" me. I wasn't bullying anybody, but gave as good as I got. But instead of other kids learning to keep their opinions and their grubby hands to themselves, they just started lining up to take a shot at me and I ended up in a lot of fights.
That didn't help me socially either as nobody wanted to socialise with kids that were fighting or angry all the time, but they didn't see that at home, dad was the bigger bully and I was stepping in between him and mum, who he bullied into allowing him to stay when she wanted to divorce. When I came home with blood on my face, instead of being disgraced, he tried to appeal to my darker side to twist me inside out and to rebel against him I stopped fighing and then everybody did get their digs in and it left me a wreck.
By 15 I was suicidal and couldn't even physically speak a whole sentence. Then things got okay for a while, only when they did, the real damage started to come out and ever since I've been learning really slowly to switch off and stop caring about who gets their heads mashed in right in front of me. The age of caring when it matters is ending. The police will investigate you for protecting your own and your community and your enemies will press charges because you stopped them trying to gang fuck your neighbour and steal their car.
In the end, there is no end, until you're dead and some kids want it to end immediately because we're not all strengthened by abuse. Adults find that out for themselves all the same. I fought back and I fought back and I fought back and damn the fuckers that had me cutting on myself because I was afraid to harm others and had no help but not anymore. It's harmful enough just taking notice.
Kids might be none the wiser but where's that excuse when adults are just as moronic and hateful? Who teaches them that shit anyway?
I appreciate former bullies and victims having the dignity and courage to open themselves up to others in the hope that they can save somebody or educate a closed narrow mind, but I cant accept that fighting back is wrong. Not when there are really nasty pieces of work out there getting their practice in on people that don't know how to or are too afraid to protect themselves! |
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